Trump supporters: What do you think of this post?

[Mac1958]

So far, it looks like no Trump supporters have significant issues with the post.

 

[Harpy Eagle]

Obama came in after the collapse, the surge in dropping unemployment and improving the market was easy as he started at a much lower baseline.

It's like a baseball player who is in a slump and is hitting .160 at mid-year and then finishes the year at .200, while the guy hitting .350 at mid year has to try and improve but ends up batting .338 for the year.. Do fans heap praise on the first batter for this amazing run to end the year? Trump entered office with the economy doing fairly well. Not great, but basically "normal". He needed to improve the results to be better than average and he has.

Once Obama took over and went wild with debt and investing, coupled with interest free money, it was a certain that the economy would rebound and numbers will continue. Anyone could do that on the backs of future generation. He would have been far more impressive to go after those who abused their shareholders and played the system which helped temporarily hurt it badly. This use of debt is also going to hurt Trump, though he used most of it for the military, not the market.

You have to look at job creation, wage increases and the more granular aspects of the economy. He should trumpet these successes about driving investment by U.S corporations, returning jobs back, pushing for retraining commitments and calling companies to remain in America. Also, the USMCA, it's a weakness for the Dems that they have disregarded it, he needs to speak about the auto industry requirements in particular that force Mexico to pay higher wages. This will lead to jobs staying in the U.S, some may even come back from Mexico.

They have avoided signing this and Trump must tout it on the campaign trail and evidence the Dems don't care about their jobs, Middle Class or helping the poor with industry, they are supporting Big Businesses to leave. He can turn the narrative easily.

You do realize that just as much debt is being added to future generations under Trump as under Obama?

They are both using high deficits to try and fuel the economy. The only difference is that Obama's deficits got smaller as time went along and Trump’s are growing each year.

 

[mudwhistle]

This is a post from another thread.

In all seriousness, I'd like to know what you think of it. Please be as complete in your response as you would like. I have provided a chart of the unemployment rate below for your reference.

Thanks.

Obama took unemployment over 10%. It skyrocketed under him during his first two years. Conversely, unemployment has steadily declined under President Trump's first two years.

Obama didn't do it as president. He helped do it while he was a Senator.
Obama wasn't a major cause of unemployment. He simply benefited the most from it.

So you're fine with the post overall, or would you revise it to also blame Obama in part for the Bush years?
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Do you even read posts before you comment?
Maybe if you stopped responding within seconds you'd understand what you're responding to better.

 

[Mac1958]

This is a post from another thread.

In all seriousness, I'd like to know what you think of it. Please be as complete in your response as you would like. I have provided a chart of the unemployment rate below for your reference.

Thanks.

Obama took unemployment over 10%. It skyrocketed under him during his first two years. Conversely, unemployment has steadily declined under President Trump's first two years.

Obama didn't do it as president. He helped do it while he was a Senator.
Obama wasn't a major cause of unemployment. He simply benefited the most from it.

So you're fine with the post overall, or would you revise it to also blame Obama in part for the Bush years?
.

Do you even read posts before you comment?
Maybe if you stopped responding within seconds you'd understand what you're responding to better.

My question was based specifically on your post.

If you don't want to provide clarity, that's up to you.

It actually answers my question, in its own way.
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[DigitalDrifter]

Unemployment was high when Obama took office, and indeed it increased further, before it began a steady decline.

 

[Harpy Eagle]

This is a post from another thread.

In all seriousness, I'd like to know what you think of it. Please be as complete in your response as you would like. I have provided a chart of the unemployment rate below for your reference.

Thanks.

Obama took unemployment over 10%. It skyrocketed under him during his first two years. Conversely, unemployment has steadily declined under President Trump's first two years.

Two things, official unemployment during true Hussein went “down” simply because they stopped counting people that gave up looking for a job after two years. If you look at the percentage of population in the workforce, it dropped drastically during his reign.

The way unemployment was calculated did not change under Obama and is still the same today.

The labor force participation rate has not improved even a single point since Trump took office.

 

[Mac1958]

Unemployment was high when Obama took office, and indeed it increased further, before it began a steady decline.

Why do you suppose it continued to increase for a while?
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[Harpy Eagle]

It sure can be tough to get a straight answer around here!

I'm fine with what I said. You can't manipulate people to get the answers you want. Obama SUCKED, especially with the economy. There's a straight answer for you.

Yes, Obama sucked, especially with the economy. Trump is only slightly better, if at all

 

[shockedcanadian]

Obama came in after the collapse, the surge in dropping unemployment and improving the market was easy as he started at a much lower baseline.

It's like a baseball player who is in a slump and is hitting .160 at mid-year and then finishes the year at .200, while the guy hitting .350 at mid year has to try and improve but ends up batting .338 for the year.. Do fans heap praise on the first batter for this amazing run to end the year? Trump entered office with the economy doing fairly well. Not great, but basically "normal". He needed to improve the results to be better than average and he has.

Once Obama took over and went wild with debt and investing, coupled with interest free money, it was a certain that the economy would rebound and numbers will continue. Anyone could do that on the backs of future generation. He would have been far more impressive to go after those who abused their shareholders and played the system which helped temporarily hurt it badly. This use of debt is also going to hurt Trump, though he used most of it for the military, not the market.

You have to look at job creation, wage increases and the more granular aspects of the economy. He should trumpet these successes about driving investment by U.S corporations, returning jobs back, pushing for retraining commitments and calling companies to remain in America. Also, the USMCA, it's a weakness for the Dems that they have disregarded it, he needs to speak about the auto industry requirements in particular that force Mexico to pay higher wages. This will lead to jobs staying in the U.S, some may even come back from Mexico.

They have avoided signing this and Trump must tout it on the campaign trail and evidence the Dems don't care about their jobs, Middle Class or helping the poor with industry, they are supporting Big Businesses to leave. He can turn the narrative easily.

You do realize that just as much debt is being added to future generations under Trump as under Obama?

They are both using high deficits to try and fuel the economy. The only difference is that Obama's deficits got smaller as time went along and Trump’s are growing each year.

Yes, and it is going to hurt his support among some for sure. It is one of his failures as president which he owns, because he signs off on the budgets.

 

[Kondor3]

What struck ME about the graphic was the large and continuing decline of unemployment under Obumble throughout most of his term.

Did it “strike” you that 6 of his 8 years in office, the entire nation was under complete and total control of the Republican Party and the Tea Party? Of course not. That’s too inconvenient for you....

Very little occurs to you which has not occurred to me first.

You are absolutely correct in observing that Congress was marginally in control of the Legislative branch during those six years.

Nolo contendere... no contest... no argument.

Nevertheless, Obumble did a great deal with respect to facilitating an economic recovery through both legislation and executive orders.

Unfortunately for your position here, Trump did not inherit an economic mess like Obumble did, so your comparison still fails.

You disingenuously compare apples-to-oranges, trying - and failing - to pitch it as apples to apples.

Busted.

Epic fail.

Nice try, though.

Not.

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Next batter, please.

 

[Indeependent]

This is a post from another thread.

In all seriousness, I'd like to know what you think of it. Please be as complete in your response as you would like. I have provided a chart of the unemployment rate below for your reference.

Thanks.

Obama took unemployment over 10%. It skyrocketed under him during his first two years. Conversely, unemployment has steadily declined under President Trump's first two years.

Are you Rush Limbaugh?

 

[Indeependent]

Two things, official unemployment during true Hussein went “down” simply because they stopped counting people that gave up looking for a job after two years. If you look at the percentage of population in the workforce, it dropped drastically during his reign.

It only started to creep up for the better when Dems were thrown out of Congress and the Hussein became a lame duck.

So you agree with the post, it's fine with you?
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Why the fuck don't you tell us about the post you dumb ignorant fucking hypocrite?

Tell us again, please....how you deny that the 2008 crash was ALL republicans fault.

I have never once seen you acknowledge what the economy did (unemployment rate) did only after the democrats took control of congress after 2007 and then lost the House in 2010.

Do you know what the unemployment rate was at the end of 2006? It was 4.6 percent where the republicans had control of congress from 1995 to 2006.

What did the unemployment rate do from 2007 to 2010 under democrat control?

Well, go ahead you demented double talking ignorant hypocritical loser.

Better whip out that race card you cling to you dumb buttfuck. You are owned in your own thread.

I will be waiting for you to tell me what the unemployment rate did from 2007 to 2010, under democrat control.

The fact that you credit obama.....

Good Lord you are a loser.

Yeah.

So what do you think of the post?
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It’s pretty clear to everyone we think your post makes you look like an idiot carrying water for the Hussein.

Have I posted something that you feel is incorrect?
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Zero context.

 

[Mac1958]

This is a post from another thread.

In all seriousness, I'd like to know what you think of it. Please be as complete in your response as you would like. I have provided a chart of the unemployment rate below for your reference.

Thanks.

Obama took unemployment over 10%. It skyrocketed under him during his first two years. Conversely, unemployment has steadily declined under President Trump's first two years.

Are you Rush Limbaugh?

Um, no.
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[Mac1958]

So you agree with the post, it's fine with you?
.

Why the fuck don't you tell us about the post you dumb ignorant fucking hypocrite?

Tell us again, please....how you deny that the 2008 crash was ALL republicans fault.

I have never once seen you acknowledge what the economy did (unemployment rate) did only after the democrats took control of congress after 2007 and then lost the House in 2010.

Do you know what the unemployment rate was at the end of 2006? It was 4.6 percent where the republicans had control of congress from 1995 to 2006.

What did the unemployment rate do from 2007 to 2010 under democrat control?

Well, go ahead you demented double talking ignorant hypocritical loser.

Better whip out that race card you cling to you dumb buttfuck. You are owned in your own thread.

I will be waiting for you to tell me what the unemployment rate did from 2007 to 2010, under democrat control.

The fact that you credit obama.....

Good Lord you are a loser.

Yeah.

So what do you think of the post?
.

It’s pretty clear to everyone we think your post makes you look like an idiot carrying water for the Hussein.

Have I posted something that you feel is incorrect?
.

Zero context.

Were you planning on providing your opinion of the post in the OP?
.

 

[Indeependent]

Why the fuck don't you tell us about the post you dumb ignorant fucking hypocrite?

Tell us again, please....how you deny that the 2008 crash was ALL republicans fault.

I have never once seen you acknowledge what the economy did (unemployment rate) did only after the democrats took control of congress after 2007 and then lost the House in 2010.

Do you know what the unemployment rate was at the end of 2006? It was 4.6 percent where the republicans had control of congress from 1995 to 2006.

What did the unemployment rate do from 2007 to 2010 under democrat control?

Well, go ahead you demented double talking ignorant hypocritical loser.

Better whip out that race card you cling to you dumb buttfuck. You are owned in your own thread.

I will be waiting for you to tell me what the unemployment rate did from 2007 to 2010, under democrat control.

The fact that you credit obama.....

Good Lord you are a loser.

Yeah.

So what do you think of the post?
.

It’s pretty clear to everyone we think your post makes you look like an idiot carrying water for the Hussein.

Have I posted something that you feel is incorrect?
.

Zero context.

Were you planning on providing your opinion of the post in the OP?
.

No context provided.

 

[Mac1958]

Were you planning on providing your opinion of the post in the OP?

No context provided.

Okay, here ya go!

Post 442 in this thread, all the context you'll need: The radicalization of the left
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[Bootney Lee Farnsworth]

This is a post from another thread.

In all seriousness, I'd like to know what you think of it. Please be as complete in your response as you would like. I have provided a chart of the unemployment rate below for your reference.

Thanks.

Obama took unemployment over 10%. It skyrocketed under him during his first two years. Conversely, unemployment has steadily declined under President Trump's first two years.

It looks to me like either (1) President Trump has only continued what President Obama had already begun, or (2)(the more likely scenario) that Presidents have very little influence over employment in the private sector.

I will say this. Obama said that certain jobs were gone from the U.S. forever and never coming back. I agreed with Trump that such a notion is complete bullshit.

.

 

[Jitss617]

When unemployment under bush reached 10% THE HOUSE WAS CONTROLLED BY DEMOCRATS.
Bush never vetoed one job creating idea democrats came up with... they spent there time using the media as propaganda to beat on Bush and the war.
Obama won and and finals shack shack jobs exploded!

 

[Mac1958]

When unemployment under bush reached 10% THE HOUSE WAS CONTROLLED BY DEMOCRATS.
Bush never vetoed one job creating idea democrats came up with... they spent there time using the media as propaganda to beat on Bush and the war.
Obama won and and finals shack shack jobs exploded!

Bush and Trump sure are victims, aren't they?
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[Jitss617]

When unemployment under bush reached 10% THE HOUSE WAS CONTROLLED BY DEMOCRATS.
Bush never vetoed one job creating idea democrats came up with... they spent there time using the media as propaganda to beat on Bush and the war.
Obama won and and finals shack shack jobs exploded!

Bush and Trump sure are victims, aren't they?
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As far as unemployment no.. they had jobs lol
Not sure what your point is.. do you have one?