Trump Threatens to Close Border Next Week

[Dick Foster]

Great, but why wait? Mexico will do nothing.

Trump Threatens to Close Border Next Week ‘If Mexico Doesn’t Immediately Stop All Illegal Immigration’

Until their economy tanks. Nothing makes people listen better than their largest ear, their wallet. Another smart move on Trump's part.

 

[Bruce_T_Laney]

Sounds like a plan

But a senior administration official undermined the president's threat, saying the Department of Homeland Security has no plans to close the border next week.

How do you shut down a border that long, anyway? Just close the customs stations?

Turn on the No Vacancies sign and turn off the lights...

With no details provided, I can only say it sounds too simplistic. Like the wall.

And you know I am bring sarcastic and you damn well know I do not support the wall stupidity...

 

[OldLady]

Sounds like a plan

But a senior administration official undermined the president's threat, saying the Department of Homeland Security has no plans to close the border next week.

How do you shut down a border that long, anyway? Just close the customs stations?

Turn on the No Vacancies sign and turn off the lights...

With no details provided, I can only say it sounds too simplistic. Like the wall.

And you know I am bring sarcastic and you damn well know I do not support the wall stupidity...

Not at all, Bruce? I see nothing wrong with fencing in areas where they've shown it's needed. Beats playing tag with 4,000 people a day. The Republicans are sinking their own argument, though, by allowing Trump and his supporters to turn it into a war against Hispanics. That is what is hurting them the most. No one can stand behind all this hate mongering

 

[Nova78]

We are under a invasion, and the worthless democrats and Mexico are to blame they are worthless pieces of shit who are destroying this country with this once a Mexican put there big toe on our soil, they are here to stay.I hope Trump shuts down the border.

 

[Nova78]

Sounds like a plan

But a senior administration official undermined the president's threat, saying the Department of Homeland Security has no plans to close the border next week.

How do you shut down a border that long, anyway? Just close the customs stations?

Turn on the No Vacancies sign and turn off the lights...

With no details provided, I can only say it sounds too simplistic. Like the wall.

And you know I am bring sarcastic and you damn well know I do not support the wall stupidity...

Then what's your solution wanker,

 

[Bruce_T_Laney]

Sounds like a plan

But a senior administration official undermined the president's threat, saying the Department of Homeland Security has no plans to close the border next week.

How do you shut down a border that long, anyway? Just close the customs stations?

Turn on the No Vacancies sign and turn off the lights...

With no details provided, I can only say it sounds too simplistic. Like the wall.

And you know I am bring sarcastic and you damn well know I do not support the wall stupidity...

Not at all, Bruce? I see nothing wrong with fencing in areas where they've shown it's needed. Beats playing tag with 4,000 people a day. The Republicans are sinking their own argument, though, by allowing Trump and his supporters to turn it into a war against Hispanics. That is what is hurting them the most. No one can stand behind all this hate mongering

I disagree and believe a better work Visa policy between the three nations would do wonders.

Many of you refuse to see who is behind the influx of refugees at our border and this is Russia and China nonsense to flood our society with poor people to tax our system.

The simple answer is as I wrote better Visa system that benefits the North American Region.

 

[Porter Rockwell]

It is because of Bush Clinton and Obama did not do that is causing this national emergency on the border.

Do you feel better now that you've blamed someone else? There, now can we address my point?

Do you think closing the border with Mexico will help?

Yes. It would cost Mexico economically much more than them paying for the wall or just securing the southern border and help securing our border. But we know the cartels own Mexico and they need open borders to move their drugs. Close the border and we will get help from democrats but don't count on any help from Mexico. Cartel don't care about Mexicans.

Foreigners DO pull their own weight. The reason they come here is job openings exist because half of the American people are living off the government.

Then why are illegal aliens costing this country billions each year for anchor babies tax breaks medical education subsidized housing drugs gangs crimes and incarcerations? Because they are low wage earners. And because business are addicted to cheap foreign labor instead of a fair wages for Americans. Democrats in bed with corporations

As much as I'd like to believe the propaganda you do, I know better. Every non-partisan study says that when it comes to costs, the undocumented foreigners pay as much into the system as they take out of it.

Our real problem is that the American people don't want to work. Having had jobs available and offering them year in and year out, I know, for a fact, that most Americans simply don't want the jobs. Mothers have mollycoddled their boys to the point that the majority of them can be found living at home in their 20s, 30s, 40s and beyond.

America has more people in prison than any nation on the planet; America consumes 80 percent of the world's opioid supply; For every drug addict in a rehab facility in America, more than TEN drug addicts are in prison. Half of the American people are dependent on the government for their daily bread. The average 25 year old white male has tattoos, body piercings, no high school education, no driver's license, very little work experience and dresses like a homeless man. They don't shave, bathe, or read on a regular basis so they are ignoramuses that reek of alcohol, cigarettes, and B.O. These guys are generally out of shape and have no work ethic. Finding something they can do is a challenge in itself.

It's easier to sit on your ass, receive food money on a debit card from Uncle Scam, live off mommy's paycheck, smoke weed and play on the Internet all day than to look for a job. Let me put it into perspective for you:

I've argued with people about this situation for over 15 years on the Internet on many different boards. In all that time, NOBODY associated with a discussion board has ever shown up when I had jobs available. In those 15 + years NOBODY has shown up and said they heard about me from someone who posts on a discussion board. I did find a guy who is doing jobs for me at $25 an hour cash. He's a White American, but he's 68 and retired. Even then, he wasn't someone I found on the Internet. He just wants small jobs to supplement his Socialist Security.

I know you'll get mad, boil, stew, get hot under the collar, turn red, blow a cork, hit the roof and raise the ceiling, but this is an alternative view for you to think about:

There is a lady living to me just next door. She has a teen age son whose basic exercise is walking the dog a couple of times per day. Outside of that, he plays on the computer - video games and social media. He watches tv. The Hispanic kid from across the street mows my next door neighbor's lawn. This is the typical situation in America.

I cannot hire people who are not willing to work. I cannot pay people a surgeon's wages for skill sets that take them six months or less to learn. My brother's wife is a registered nurse. She went to college for four years. She makes $35 an hour. Handymen in my area make $25 to $30 an hour doing odd jobs they can learn in under a year. Problem is, nobody wants to do the work. Nobody is taking food from your table. Foreigners pay taxes, buy goods, use services and create opportunities. If Americans weren't in prison, drug rehab centers, using drugs, or living off Uncle Scam and mommy, AND then acquiring a record that society will never them live past (due to idiotic "background checks" for every little thing) they could be working the jobs. You simply need both sides of the story.

I wouldn't work for you, either, Porter. You can't stop finding fault with the people around you and judge everyone based on your highly limited experience of what an "average 25 year old American" is.

Limited experience? Judging people? You have to be freaking joking.

I was a Justice of the Peace before the state eliminated those positions for magistrates. Then I worked in the legal field for many years. Then I became a minister and my work is unlike what preachers normally do.

My entire day is spent helping people get on their feet. My limited experience means that I deal with over a dozen families per week. It sends me into drug rehab centers to counsel people, dealing with people's probation officers, and trying to help people get back on their feet. Yeah, that's real limited experience when you do it seven days a week. With only three and half plus decades of experience, you're probably right. I'm willing to bet your experience is much more extensive than mine.

I also have to work with the Georgia Dept. of Labor. They have classes on how to dress for a job interview and what is expected. So, yeah, I'm judging people on their appearances too. Wear the wrong clothes, go too far on makeup, tattoos, body piercings, and / or go to a job interview smelling like an ashtray and it will affect the outcome of the interview. BTW, did you notice I'm the one bitching about people like you - that support National ID and endless background checks - checks for things that might amount to nothing more than a youthful indiscretion... crap that those over 40 did in their life and the cops back then just told people to quit doing and go home. Yeah, you're probably right. I need to have help wanted signs out for another 15 years, interview at least 8 to 10,000 more people for jobs; counsel another couple thousand people before I can claim any relevant experience.

You're burnt out, Porter. After nine years of working with families where at least 70% had either an alcohol or drug addiction involved, I understand. But it's time to go when all you can feel for them is frustration and contempt.
You only see the folks with huge problems and challenges. It is not the "average" American is my only point.

Quite the optimist you are! I'm looking for the exception. That is why I just graduated back in September with a degree in Christian Education. I plan on teaching, but you are oblivious to reality.

NOBODY on this board can tell you honestly that they do not know of an American who is not living off Uncle Scam, on drugs, unemployed, or living off relatives - and / or some combination thereof. If you deny that, the balance of your arguments are dishonest.

 

[Porter Rockwell]

Sounds like a plan

But a senior administration official undermined the president's threat, saying the Department of Homeland Security has no plans to close the border next week.

How do you shut down a border that long, anyway? Just close the customs stations?

Turn on the No Vacancies sign and turn off the lights...

The better route would be to put Americans to work. Then if there are any jobs left over, the foreigners are welcome to them.

Dream all you like, but long after you and I are returned to the dust from whence we came, there will be foreigners coming here. Putting America back to work and trying to develop a culture in this country would do more to regulate foreigners from coming here than a fifty foot wall around the entire U.S. and all our military personnel manning it.

I am guessing you do not know that I think the wall idea is stupid and in fact we agree.

Actually I did not know that, but it's good to know.

 

[Billy_Kinetta]

It is because of Bush Clinton and Obama did not do that is causing this national emergency on the border.

Do you feel better now that you've blamed someone else? There, now can we address my point?

Do you think closing the border with Mexico will help?

We have tried open borders and amnesties and we know that do not work. Securing the border by any measures. Instread of trying to fix the middle east who was not a threat because Mexicans kill more Americans than middle east terrorist we should have invaded Mexico

We don't have "open borders." Obviously, if we did, Border Patrol would not be intercepting 4,000 a day. Streamlining and perhaps changing some of the rules would be helpful to them. I don't understand why they can't just revise the statute so that people who enter the country illegally cannot request asylum.

Because neither political side will vote it. It will have to be demanded by the Americans with "no" rejected as an option. Laws will also need to be changed to prevent illegals from doing business, securing housing or owning property, or obtaining licenses or any services.

In other words, you want the ultimate POLICE STATE - the Orwellian nightmare. Right?

Wrong, and thick to boot. That's the Democrats' goal, not mine. Note that nothing I suggested included citizens or authorized visitors.

What I want is for illegals to stay home and take care of their own problems on their own soil, not bring those problems here and expect Americans to cover them.

 

[Billy_Kinetta]

Do you feel better now that you've blamed someone else? There, now can we address my point?

Do you think closing the border with Mexico will help?

Yes. It would cost Mexico economically much more than them paying for the wall or just securing the southern border and help securing our border. But we know the cartels own Mexico and they need open borders to move their drugs. Close the border and we will get help from democrats but don't count on any help from Mexico. Cartel don't care about Mexicans.

Then why are illegal aliens costing this country billions each year for anchor babies tax breaks medical education subsidized housing drugs gangs crimes and incarcerations? Because they are low wage earners. And because business are addicted to cheap foreign labor instead of a fair wages for Americans. Democrats in bed with corporations

As much as I'd like to believe the propaganda you do, I know better. Every non-partisan study says that when it comes to costs, the undocumented foreigners pay as much into the system as they take out of it.

Our real problem is that the American people don't want to work. Having had jobs available and offering them year in and year out, I know, for a fact, that most Americans simply don't want the jobs. Mothers have mollycoddled their boys to the point that the majority of them can be found living at home in their 20s, 30s, 40s and beyond.

America has more people in prison than any nation on the planet; America consumes 80 percent of the world's opioid supply; For every drug addict in a rehab facility in America, more than TEN drug addicts are in prison. Half of the American people are dependent on the government for their daily bread. The average 25 year old white male has tattoos, body piercings, no high school education, no driver's license, very little work experience and dresses like a homeless man. They don't shave, bathe, or read on a regular basis so they are ignoramuses that reek of alcohol, cigarettes, and B.O. These guys are generally out of shape and have no work ethic. Finding something they can do is a challenge in itself.

It's easier to sit on your ass, receive food money on a debit card from Uncle Scam, live off mommy's paycheck, smoke weed and play on the Internet all day than to look for a job. Let me put it into perspective for you:

I've argued with people about this situation for over 15 years on the Internet on many different boards. In all that time, NOBODY associated with a discussion board has ever shown up when I had jobs available. In those 15 + years NOBODY has shown up and said they heard about me from someone who posts on a discussion board. I did find a guy who is doing jobs for me at $25 an hour cash. He's a White American, but he's 68 and retired. Even then, he wasn't someone I found on the Internet. He just wants small jobs to supplement his Socialist Security.

I know you'll get mad, boil, stew, get hot under the collar, turn red, blow a cork, hit the roof and raise the ceiling, but this is an alternative view for you to think about:

There is a lady living to me just next door. She has a teen age son whose basic exercise is walking the dog a couple of times per day. Outside of that, he plays on the computer - video games and social media. He watches tv. The Hispanic kid from across the street mows my next door neighbor's lawn. This is the typical situation in America.

I cannot hire people who are not willing to work. I cannot pay people a surgeon's wages for skill sets that take them six months or less to learn. My brother's wife is a registered nurse. She went to college for four years. She makes $35 an hour. Handymen in my area make $25 to $30 an hour doing odd jobs they can learn in under a year. Problem is, nobody wants to do the work. Nobody is taking food from your table. Foreigners pay taxes, buy goods, use services and create opportunities. If Americans weren't in prison, drug rehab centers, using drugs, or living off Uncle Scam and mommy, AND then acquiring a record that society will never them live past (due to idiotic "background checks" for every little thing) they could be working the jobs. You simply need both sides of the story.

I wouldn't work for you, either, Porter. You can't stop finding fault with the people around you and judge everyone based on your highly limited experience of what an "average 25 year old American" is.

Limited experience? Judging people? You have to be freaking joking.

I was a Justice of the Peace before the state eliminated those positions for magistrates. Then I worked in the legal field for many years. Then I became a minister and my work is unlike what preachers normally do.

My entire day is spent helping people get on their feet. My limited experience means that I deal with over a dozen families per week. It sends me into drug rehab centers to counsel people, dealing with people's probation officers, and trying to help people get back on their feet. Yeah, that's real limited experience when you do it seven days a week. With only three and half plus decades of experience, you're probably right. I'm willing to bet your experience is much more extensive than mine.

I also have to work with the Georgia Dept. of Labor. They have classes on how to dress for a job interview and what is expected. So, yeah, I'm judging people on their appearances too. Wear the wrong clothes, go too far on makeup, tattoos, body piercings, and / or go to a job interview smelling like an ashtray and it will affect the outcome of the interview. BTW, did you notice I'm the one bitching about people like you - that support National ID and endless background checks - checks for things that might amount to nothing more than a youthful indiscretion... crap that those over 40 did in their life and the cops back then just told people to quit doing and go home. Yeah, you're probably right. I need to have help wanted signs out for another 15 years, interview at least 8 to 10,000 more people for jobs; counsel another couple thousand people before I can claim any relevant experience.

You're burnt out, Porter. After nine years of working with families where at least 70% had either an alcohol or drug addiction involved, I understand. But it's time to go when all you can feel for them is frustration and contempt.
You only see the folks with huge problems and challenges. It is not the "average" American is my only point.

Quite the optimist you are! I'm looking for the exception. That is why I just graduated back in September with a degree in Christian Education. I plan on teaching, but you are oblivious to reality.

NOBODY on this board can tell you honestly that they do not know of an American who is not living off Uncle Scam, on drugs, unemployed, or living off relatives - and / or some combination thereof.

I know no such person or persons. But then, I don't hang in those social circles.

 

[LilOlLady]

Yes. It would cost Mexico economically much more than them paying for the wall or just securing the southern border and help securing our border. But we know the cartels own Mexico and they need open borders to move their drugs. Close the border and we will get help from democrats but don't count on any help from Mexico. Cartel don't care about Mexicans.

As much as I'd like to believe the propaganda you do, I know better. Every non-partisan study says that when it comes to costs, the undocumented foreigners pay as much into the system as they take out of it.

Our real problem is that the American people don't want to work. Having had jobs available and offering them year in and year out, I know, for a fact, that most Americans simply don't want the jobs. Mothers have mollycoddled their boys to the point that the majority of them can be found living at home in their 20s, 30s, 40s and beyond.

America has more people in prison than any nation on the planet; America consumes 80 percent of the world's opioid supply; For every drug addict in a rehab facility in America, more than TEN drug addicts are in prison. Half of the American people are dependent on the government for their daily bread. The average 25 year old white male has tattoos, body piercings, no high school education, no driver's license, very little work experience and dresses like a homeless man. They don't shave, bathe, or read on a regular basis so they are ignoramuses that reek of alcohol, cigarettes, and B.O. These guys are generally out of shape and have no work ethic. Finding something they can do is a challenge in itself.

It's easier to sit on your ass, receive food money on a debit card from Uncle Scam, live off mommy's paycheck, smoke weed and play on the Internet all day than to look for a job. Let me put it into perspective for you:

I've argued with people about this situation for over 15 years on the Internet on many different boards. In all that time, NOBODY associated with a discussion board has ever shown up when I had jobs available. In those 15 + years NOBODY has shown up and said they heard about me from someone who posts on a discussion board. I did find a guy who is doing jobs for me at $25 an hour cash. He's a White American, but he's 68 and retired. Even then, he wasn't someone I found on the Internet. He just wants small jobs to supplement his Socialist Security.

I know you'll get mad, boil, stew, get hot under the collar, turn red, blow a cork, hit the roof and raise the ceiling, but this is an alternative view for you to think about:

There is a lady living to me just next door. She has a teen age son whose basic exercise is walking the dog a couple of times per day. Outside of that, he plays on the computer - video games and social media. He watches tv. The Hispanic kid from across the street mows my next door neighbor's lawn. This is the typical situation in America.

I cannot hire people who are not willing to work. I cannot pay people a surgeon's wages for skill sets that take them six months or less to learn. My brother's wife is a registered nurse. She went to college for four years. She makes $35 an hour. Handymen in my area make $25 to $30 an hour doing odd jobs they can learn in under a year. Problem is, nobody wants to do the work. Nobody is taking food from your table. Foreigners pay taxes, buy goods, use services and create opportunities. If Americans weren't in prison, drug rehab centers, using drugs, or living off Uncle Scam and mommy, AND then acquiring a record that society will never them live past (due to idiotic "background checks" for every little thing) they could be working the jobs. You simply need both sides of the story.

I wouldn't work for you, either, Porter. You can't stop finding fault with the people around you and judge everyone based on your highly limited experience of what an "average 25 year old American" is.

Limited experience? Judging people? You have to be freaking joking.

I was a Justice of the Peace before the state eliminated those positions for magistrates. Then I worked in the legal field for many years. Then I became a minister and my work is unlike what preachers normally do.

My entire day is spent helping people get on their feet. My limited experience means that I deal with over a dozen families per week. It sends me into drug rehab centers to counsel people, dealing with people's probation officers, and trying to help people get back on their feet. Yeah, that's real limited experience when you do it seven days a week. With only three and half plus decades of experience, you're probably right. I'm willing to bet your experience is much more extensive than mine.

I also have to work with the Georgia Dept. of Labor. They have classes on how to dress for a job interview and what is expected. So, yeah, I'm judging people on their appearances too. Wear the wrong clothes, go too far on makeup, tattoos, body piercings, and / or go to a job interview smelling like an ashtray and it will affect the outcome of the interview. BTW, did you notice I'm the one bitching about people like you - that support National ID and endless background checks - checks for things that might amount to nothing more than a youthful indiscretion... crap that those over 40 did in their life and the cops back then just told people to quit doing and go home. Yeah, you're probably right. I need to have help wanted signs out for another 15 years, interview at least 8 to 10,000 more people for jobs; counsel another couple thousand people before I can claim any relevant experience.

You're burnt out, Porter. After nine years of working with families where at least 70% had either an alcohol or drug addiction involved, I understand. But it's time to go when all you can feel for them is frustration and contempt.
You only see the folks with huge problems and challenges. It is not the "average" American is my only point.

Quite the optimist you are! I'm looking for the exception. That is why I just graduated back in September with a degree in Christian Education. I plan on teaching, but you are oblivious to reality.

NOBODY on this board can tell you honestly that they do not know of an American who is not living off Uncle Scam, on drugs, unemployed, or living off relatives - and / or some combination thereof.

I know no such person or persons. But then, I don't hang in those social circles.

Blah blah blah. You have said nothing that make sense or in anyway credible. Americans of all nationalities built this country and paid into the system and deserve assistance when needed. And what illegals pay in taxes cannot be compared to their tax credits and claiming dependent they borrowed. And the welfare assistance the get. All babies get WIC. Free education and lunch and sometimes breakfast and meals during break. ESL classes taken away from American children leading time. The cons of illegal are too many to list. You need to come out of your social circle and experience a little reality. You probably live in a gated community. Trump inherited this shit and he is trying to fix years of democratic fuckup. I do not have to live in a shithouse to know how shit smell and Trump is up to his neck in shit thrown on him by democrats.

 

[Oddball]

Great, but why wait? Mexico will do nothing.

Trump Threatens to Close Border Next Week ‘If Mexico Doesn’t Immediately Stop All Illegal Immigration’

I'd rather he shut down the welfare state....Then any and all immigrants coming here would have to pull their own weight.

Foreigners DO pull their own weight. The reason they come here is job openings exist because half of the American people are living off the government.

Welfare Use by Immigrant Households with Children

That aside, the welfare state should be abolished for everyone.

 

[LilOlLady]

Secretary of defense say the crisis at the border is worse he have ever seen. Drastic measures have been used before and we have survived. So we will not get lettuce for a while. Fucking spoils liberal that live in secure buildings and jobs. It is so overwhelming at the border that the only thing we can do us release them . this is an American tradegy and I hope I do not live to see the long term effect but my grandkids will. God help us because I am afraid it's too late.

 

[Billy_Kinetta]

I wouldn't work for you, either, Porter. You can't stop finding fault with the people around you and judge everyone based on your highly limited experience of what an "average 25 year old American" is.

Limited experience? Judging people? You have to be freaking joking.

I was a Justice of the Peace before the state eliminated those positions for magistrates. Then I worked in the legal field for many years. Then I became a minister and my work is unlike what preachers normally do.

My entire day is spent helping people get on their feet. My limited experience means that I deal with over a dozen families per week. It sends me into drug rehab centers to counsel people, dealing with people's probation officers, and trying to help people get back on their feet. Yeah, that's real limited experience when you do it seven days a week. With only three and half plus decades of experience, you're probably right. I'm willing to bet your experience is much more extensive than mine.

I also have to work with the Georgia Dept. of Labor. They have classes on how to dress for a job interview and what is expected. So, yeah, I'm judging people on their appearances too. Wear the wrong clothes, go too far on makeup, tattoos, body piercings, and / or go to a job interview smelling like an ashtray and it will affect the outcome of the interview. BTW, did you notice I'm the one bitching about people like you - that support National ID and endless background checks - checks for things that might amount to nothing more than a youthful indiscretion... crap that those over 40 did in their life and the cops back then just told people to quit doing and go home. Yeah, you're probably right. I need to have help wanted signs out for another 15 years, interview at least 8 to 10,000 more people for jobs; counsel another couple thousand people before I can claim any relevant experience.

You're burnt out, Porter. After nine years of working with families where at least 70% had either an alcohol or drug addiction involved, I understand. But it's time to go when all you can feel for them is frustration and contempt.
You only see the folks with huge problems and challenges. It is not the "average" American is my only point.

Quite the optimist you are! I'm looking for the exception. That is why I just graduated back in September with a degree in Christian Education. I plan on teaching, but you are oblivious to reality.

NOBODY on this board can tell you honestly that they do not know of an American who is not living off Uncle Scam, on drugs, unemployed, or living off relatives - and / or some combination thereof.

I know no such person or persons. But then, I don't hang in those social circles.

Blah blah blah. You have said nothing that make sense or in anyway credible. Americans of all nationalities built this country and paid into the system and deserve assistance when needed. And what illegals pay in taxes cannot be compared to their tax credits and claiming dependent they borrowed. And the welfare assistance the get. All babies get WIC. Free education and lunch and sometimes breakfast and meals during break. ESL classes taken away from American children leading time. The cons of illegal are too many to list. You need to come out of your social circle and experience a little reality. You probably live in a gated community. Trump inherited this shit and he is trying to fix years of democratic fuckup. I do not have to live in a shithouse to know how shit smell and Trump is up to his neck in shit thrown on him by democrats.

It is unclear whom you are addressing.

 

[LilOlLady]

This must be prophecy being filled. Trump's supporters bowing down to him???

 

[OldLady]

But a senior administration official undermined the president's threat, saying the Department of Homeland Security has no plans to close the border next week.

How do you shut down a border that long, anyway? Just close the customs stations?

Turn on the No Vacancies sign and turn off the lights...

With no details provided, I can only say it sounds too simplistic. Like the wall.

And you know I am bring sarcastic and you damn well know I do not support the wall stupidity...

Not at all, Bruce? I see nothing wrong with fencing in areas where they've shown it's needed. Beats playing tag with 4,000 people a day. The Republicans are sinking their own argument, though, by allowing Trump and his supporters to turn it into a war against Hispanics. That is what is hurting them the most. No one can stand behind all this hate mongering

I disagree and believe a better work Visa policy between the three nations would do wonders.

Many of you refuse to see who is behind the influx of refugees at our border and this is Russia and China nonsense to flood our society with poor people to tax our system.

The simple answer is as I wrote better Visa system that benefits the North American Region.

So we are not handing out enough work visas? Okay. That makes sense. Let's definitely do that, too. I think the President's idea, though, is to get rid of all these foreign workers so that Americans will be forced to take them and then NO ONE will be on welfare. Two birds, one stone.

 

[LilOlLady]

Great, but why wait? Mexico will do nothing.

Trump Threatens to Close Border Next Week ‘If Mexico Doesn’t Immediately Stop All Illegal Immigration’

I'd rather he shut down the welfare state....Then any and all immigrants coming here would have to pull their own weight.

Foreigners DO pull their own weight. The reason they come here is job openings exist because half of the American people are living off the government.

Welfare Use by Immigrant Households with Children

That aside, the welfare state should be abolished for everyone.

You do not want to see that. Then those that don't have will take what you have and as you see in third world countries who do not have a welfare system.

 

[Oddball]

Great, but why wait? Mexico will do nothing.

Trump Threatens to Close Border Next Week ‘If Mexico Doesn’t Immediately Stop All Illegal Immigration’

I'd rather he shut down the welfare state....Then any and all immigrants coming here would have to pull their own weight.

Foreigners DO pull their own weight. The reason they come here is job openings exist because half of the American people are living off the government.

Welfare Use by Immigrant Households with Children

That aside, the welfare state should be abolished for everyone.

You do not want to see that. Then those that don't have will take what you have and as you see in third world countries who do not have a welfare system.

No they won't.

Murica did just fine for over 150+ years without a welfare state....It will survive abolishing it.

 

[LilOlLady]

Great, but why wait? Mexico will do nothing.

Trump Threatens to Close Border Next Week ‘If Mexico Doesn’t Immediately Stop All Illegal Immigration’

I'd rather he shut down the welfare state....Then any and all immigrants coming here would have to pull their own weight.

Foreigners DO pull their own weight. The reason they come here is job openings exist because half of the American people are living off the government.

Omg. The reason they come is freebies and dropping the anchor babies whose benefits substain them. The is no one that have a skill to contribute crossing illegal. Do you know how to Google? Because Google the cost of illegal immigration and you will thousands of credible hits. But you are comfortable keeping your head deep into your ass

 

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Great, but why wait? Mexico will do nothing.

Trump Threatens to Close Border Next Week ‘If Mexico Doesn’t Immediately Stop All Illegal Immigration’

I'd rather he shut down the welfare state....Then any and all immigrants coming here would have to pull their own weight.

Foreigners DO pull their own weight. The reason they come here is job openings exist because half of the American people are living off the government.

Welfare Use by Immigrant Households with Children

That aside, the welfare state should be abolished for everyone.

You do not want to see that. Then those that don't have will take what you have and as you see in third world countries who do not have a welfare system.

No they won't.

Murica did just fine for over 150+ years without a welfare state....It will survive abolishing it.

There is no country that do not have some form of welfare system even if it is a donation jar that exsist in some middle east country. Your Christian God tells you to take care of the poor widows disabled but you are obvious not a Christian. But you want to take care of illegal aliens? Your God also tell you to take care of your own first. By the way never heard of Murica. Must be another shithole country