Trump's compromise solution seems reasonable. Why are Democrats opposing this?

[TheDude]

Democrats will have to explain to the American people why they won't agree to Trump's reasonable plan.

They did. It's cuz walls are expensive and ineffective.



Facts progs facts, logic progs logic, not so common sense I guess:

A wall is 5-20 B amortized over 100 years. Illegals cost us 50-70 B every year.

If walls are ineffective, how come they work? How come they're inside your house, surround people's property, prisons yadda yadda?

How come every expert in the field knows walls work, but Democrat "leaders" know better than they do?

How is it a fence is cool but a wall sucks?

How is it Democrats supported walls and fences, but since Trump follows through and he's Republican, they're no longer viable?

Pretty fucking sure Democrats are lying mother fuckers, and could give a flying fuck about their own country. Democrats are dirty as fuck. When do progs begin to recognize Democrats are telling us to get fucked and up is down?

 

[basquebromance]

we shouldnt care about our neighbor? we should build a wall with our neighbor? we should rip apart folks from their children?

THATS NOT MY AMERICA!

ARE YOU WILLING TO FIGHT FOR MY AMERICA???

 

[Norman]

Democrats will have to explain to the American people why they won't agree to Trump's reasonable plan.

Everything Trump has put forward has not only been reasonable, but common sense.

They hate the country.

 

[Norman]

we shouldnt care about our neighbor? we should build a wall with our neighbor? we should rip apart folks from their children?

THATS NOT MY AMERICA!

ARE YOU WILLING TO FIGHT FOR MY AMERICA???

Yes we care about our neighbors, between us is this border which is not secured and now we are trying to secure it for both of us.

You do have doors and walls in your house? Do you hate your neighbors?

 

[Aponi]

Awwww. He's so reasonably promising to let the hostages go if he gets what he wants.

What a guy!

But really, what's the problem?

We don't negotiate with hostage takers.

Sorry. Pass the CR and then we can talk about $$ for border security.

But you are a moron so this won't make sense to you.

You mean like obama did with iran right

 

[Aponi]

Awwww. He's so reasonably promising to let the hostages go if he gets what he wants.

What a guy!

But really, what's the problem?

You mean like obama did with iran right

We don't negotiate with hostage takers.

Sorry. Pass the CR and then we can talk about $$ for border security.

But you are a moron so this won't make sense to you.

Awwww. He's so reasonably promising to let the hostages go if he gets what he wants.

What a guy!

 

[Aponi]

It seems pretty clear that the dems could get Daca for the wall if they wanted it. I don't think it would be a tough negotiation. The dems are playing a dangerous game after abandoning the working class and telling blacks that they aren't as important anymore. They have all their eggs in one basket, and they are going to tell legal Hispanics to F themselves so that they can keep their illegal pipeline open. What makes it worse is that border patrol says they actually need the wall. So dems are saying F you to legal Hispanics and the border patrol to try to force a favorable demographic change.

The same border patrol that Trump refuses to pay?

And democrats are unwill8ng to pay

 

[Aponi]

Its real simple. If there is a wall, Trump wins 2020.

If there is no wall, he will lose 2020.

That is what the democrats are seeing and that is their GAME.

To hell with those people they claim they care about.

Classic example of people suffering as a result of democrats and they thrive on the suffering of people.

They are now able to prop up their scapegoat and their lambs fall right in line.

I think Mr Mueller will feel differently

Really whats mueller got to do with it moron

 

[LoneLaugher]

Awwww. He's so reasonably promising to let the hostages go if he gets what he wants.

What a guy!

Hostages? Is that what Clinton was during his shutdown?

If the Dems want the government to reopen, they need to pass a bill that a Republican majority Senate and President Trump will sign off on. Simple as that.

Quit acting as if this how the things are supposed to work or that there is anything reasonable about what Trump is demanding.

that there is anything reasonable about what Trump is demanding.

What part is unreasonable?

The shutdown is unreasonable. Why does Trump not restart the government and then enter into negotiations for a wall? The answer is obvious, he cannot get what he wants by the constitutionally mandated government procedures. The government is not supposed to work this way and he cannot be allowed to succeed.

Why does Trump not restart the government and then enter into negotiations for a wall?

Why doesn't Pelosi want to negotiate?

Today, he offered EVERYTHING the Democrats claim they want, yet Pelosi said NO before he ever went on the air, because the wall is included.

No he didnt.

 

[LoneLaugher]

Awwww. He's so reasonably promising to let the hostages go if he gets what he wants.

What a guy!

But really, what's the problem?

We don't negotiate with hostage takers.

Sorry. Pass the CR and then we can talk about $$ for border security.

But you are a moron so this won't make sense to you.

You mean like obama did with iran right

No. Moron.

 

[rightwinger]

Democrats need to match Mexico dollar for dollar in wall funding

 

[TheDude]

Democrats need to match Mexico dollar for dollar in wall funding

Why is that?

 

[Darkwind]

All he's asking for is $5 billion to bolster border security, which is a very tiny percentage of the national budget.

What's the problem, Democrats?

The problem is that the Democrats don't want border security. Why? Cuz most of those illegals coming across the southern borders will mostly be future Dem voters. And of course Trump wants it, so they're against it.

Remember this.

The census counts illegals in the population census. Right now, California has something like 7 or 9 electoral votes more than they should have if the illegals were striken from the census. For every 770k people in the census, Congress gets another House seat.

Since California and other sanctuary states are wholly Democrat owned, who do you think those extra seats will benefit and in the big dance, who do you think those Electoral votes will benefit?

Didn't realize that, thanks for pointing it out.

Texas and Florida, the two next largest populations of illegals and foreigners are Republican states and they too get extra representatives....

Yep. Voted in by those whom the Democrats give things to. Like citizenship, free food, housing, education.

When you rob Peter to pay Seniorita Rachel, you can always count on Rachel's vote.

 

[AntonToo]

Keeping in mind that the money saved by this alleged “better” trade deal doesn’t mean more money in the US Federal coffers; it means better deals for our companies that buy and sell things to Mexico.

Actually, it does mean more money in federal coffers. Federal tax revenues are up under President Trump because the combination of the tax cuts and tariff protections have created more jobs and profits to tax.

"Taxes: Critics of the Trump tax cuts said they would blow a hole in the deficit. Yet individual income taxes climbed 6% in the just-ended fiscal year 2018, as the economy grew faster and created more jobs than expected.

The Treasury Department reported this week that individual income tax collections for FY 2018 totaled $1.7 trillion. That's up $14 billion from fiscal 2017, and an all-time high. And that's despite the fact that individual income tax rates got a significant cut this year as part of President Donald Trump's tax reform plan."

Trump Tax-Cut Results: Federal Revenues Hit All-Time Highs | Investor's Business Daily

Meanwhile back in reality... the national debt continues to grow; now over a trillion dollars a year.

Because of high spending, but contrary to the doomsday forecasts about the tax cut, federal tax revenues have increased, not decreased, because of the tax cuts and tariffs.

Total horseshit. Revenues are way down from expected growth baseline.

Revenues are down down dow

Total bullshit.

"
Critics of the Trump tax cuts said they would blow a hole in the deficit. Yet individual income taxes climbed 6% in the just-ended fiscal year 2018, as the economy grew faster and created more jobs than expected.

The Treasury Department reported this week that individual income tax collections for FY 2018 totaled $1.7 trillion. That's up $14 billion from fiscal 2017, and an all-time high. And that's despite the fact that individual income tax rates got a significant cut this year as part of President Donald Trump's tax reform plan."

Trump Tax-Cut Results: Federal Revenues Hit All-Time Highs | Investor's Business Daily

FY 2018 started in the middle of 2017, why the hell would you do that to look at the effect of a tax cut that went to effect in 2018? ...unless of course you are a politico at IBR looking to fool people about tax-cuts.

Further, in April last year’s taxes are settled, so again, have to exclude that.

Finally you have to adjust nominal revenues by about 4% to account for inflation and normal economic growth.

Larry Summers of the Trump administration promised tax-cuts to pay for themselves because they would cause GDP growth to jump to 4-5% a year, which is of course nowhere in sight and we’ll be lucky if 2018 clears 3% bar. 2019 forecast consensus remains at 2%.

Now sit your ignorant ass down, stop reading right winger bullshit and eat your expensive and totally unpaid-for tax-cut lunch

 

[candycorn]

All he's asking for is $5 billion to bolster border security, which is a very tiny percentage of the national budget.

What's the problem, Democrats?

The problem is that the Democrats don't want border security. Why? Cuz most of those illegals coming across the southern borders will mostly be future Dem voters. And of course Trump wants it, so they're against it.

Remember this.

The census counts illegals in the population census. Right now, California has something like 7 or 9 electoral votes more than they should have if the illegals were striken from the census. For every 770k people in the census, Congress gets another House seat.

Since California and other sanctuary states are wholly Democrat owned, who do you think those extra seats will benefit and in the big dance, who do you think those Electoral votes will benefit?

Didn't realize that, thanks for pointing it out.

Texas and Florida, the two next largest populations of illegals and foreigners are Republican states and they too get extra representatives....

Yep. Voted in by those whom the Democrats give things to. Like citizenship, free food, housing, education.

When you rob Peter to pay Seniorita Rachel, you can always count on Rachel's vote.

Too bad Rachel can’t vote

 

[candycorn]

Actually, it does mean more money in federal coffers. Federal tax revenues are up under President Trump because the combination of the tax cuts and tariff protections have created more jobs and profits to tax.

"Taxes: Critics of the Trump tax cuts said they would blow a hole in the deficit. Yet individual income taxes climbed 6% in the just-ended fiscal year 2018, as the economy grew faster and created more jobs than expected.

The Treasury Department reported this week that individual income tax collections for FY 2018 totaled $1.7 trillion. That's up $14 billion from fiscal 2017, and an all-time high. And that's despite the fact that individual income tax rates got a significant cut this year as part of President Donald Trump's tax reform plan."

Trump Tax-Cut Results: Federal Revenues Hit All-Time Highs | Investor's Business Daily

Meanwhile back in reality... the national debt continues to grow; now over a trillion dollars a year.

Because of high spending, but contrary to the doomsday forecasts about the tax cut, federal tax revenues have increased, not decreased, because of the tax cuts and tariffs.

Total horseshit. Revenues are way down from expected growth baseline.

Revenues are down down dow

Total bullshit.

"
Critics of the Trump tax cuts said they would blow a hole in the deficit. Yet individual income taxes climbed 6% in the just-ended fiscal year 2018, as the economy grew faster and created more jobs than expected.

The Treasury Department reported this week that individual income tax collections for FY 2018 totaled $1.7 trillion. That's up $14 billion from fiscal 2017, and an all-time high. And that's despite the fact that individual income tax rates got a significant cut this year as part of President Donald Trump's tax reform plan."

Trump Tax-Cut Results: Federal Revenues Hit All-Time Highs | Investor's Business Daily

FY 2018 started in the middle of 2017, why the hell would you do that to look at the effect of a tax cut that went to effect in 2018? ...unless of course you are a politico at IBR looking to fool people about tax-cuts.

Further, in April last year’s taxes are settled, so again, have to exclude that.

Finally you have to adjust nominal revenues by about 4% to account for inflation and normal economic growth.

Larry Summers of the Trump administration promised tax-cuts to pay for themselves because they would cause GDP growth to jump to 4-5% a year, which is of course nowhere in sight and we’ll be lucky if 2018 clears 3% bar. 2019 forecast consensus remains at 2%.

Now sit your ignorant ass down, stop reading right winger bullshit and eat your expensive and totally unpaid-for tax-cut lunch

I don’t think Summers was part of Trumps administration

 

[PredFan]

But really, what's the problem?

We don't negotiate with hostage takers.

Sorry. Pass the CR and then we can talk about $$ for border security.

But you are a moron so this won't make sense to you.

1. They aren’t hostages liar.
2. Democrats always reneg in promises. No CR without the wall.
3. But you’re a moron and you think your bull shit makes sense.

Trump promised Mexico will pay for the wall. Tomorrow will be 2 years. How much have we gotten from Mexico so far?

Who cares, that isn’t what this is about.

It speaks to the “Democrats always renew on promises”. Trump promised Mexico is paying. He wasn’t lying….was he?

Promises made in deals across the isle. Learn to read.

 

[candycorn]

We don't negotiate with hostage takers.

Sorry. Pass the CR and then we can talk about $$ for border security.

But you are a moron so this won't make sense to you.

1. They aren’t hostages liar.
2. Democrats always reneg in promises. No CR without the wall.
3. But you’re a moron and you think your bull shit makes sense.

Trump promised Mexico will pay for the wall. Tomorrow will be 2 years. How much have we gotten from Mexico so far?

Who cares, that isn’t what this is about.

It speaks to the “Democrats always renew on promises”. Trump promised Mexico is paying. He wasn’t lying….was he?

Promises made in deals across the isle. Learn to read.

Since you admit he lied about Mexico...why should the Democrats believe he’ll hold up his end of the bargain?

 

[AntonToo]

Meanwhile back in reality... the national debt continues to grow; now over a trillion dollars a year.

Because of high spending, but contrary to the doomsday forecasts about the tax cut, federal tax revenues have increased, not decreased, because of the tax cuts and tariffs.

Total horseshit. Revenues are way down from expected growth baseline.

Revenues are down down dow

Total bullshit.

"
Critics of the Trump tax cuts said they would blow a hole in the deficit. Yet individual income taxes climbed 6% in the just-ended fiscal year 2018, as the economy grew faster and created more jobs than expected.

The Treasury Department reported this week that individual income tax collections for FY 2018 totaled $1.7 trillion. That's up $14 billion from fiscal 2017, and an all-time high. And that's despite the fact that individual income tax rates got a significant cut this year as part of President Donald Trump's tax reform plan."

Trump Tax-Cut Results: Federal Revenues Hit All-Time Highs | Investor's Business Daily

FY 2018 started in the middle of 2017, why the hell would you do that to look at the effect of a tax cut that went to effect in 2018? ...unless of course you are a politico at IBR looking to fool people about tax-cuts.

Further, in April last year’s taxes are settled, so again, have to exclude that.

Finally you have to adjust nominal revenues by about 4% to account for inflation and normal economic growth.

Larry Summers of the Trump administration promised tax-cuts to pay for themselves because they would cause GDP growth to jump to 4-5% a year, which is of course nowhere in sight and we’ll be lucky if 2018 clears 3% bar. 2019 forecast consensus remains at 2%.

Now sit your ignorant ass down, stop reading right winger bullshit and eat your expensive and totally unpaid-for tax-cut lunch

I don’t think Summers was part of Trumps administration

I mixed up my Larrys - Larry Kudlow

 

[bodecea]

Democrats will have to explain to the American people why they won't agree to Trump's reasonable plan.

Everything Trump has put forward has not only been reasonable, but common sense.

They hate the country.

Tiny donnie's proposal.......already exists thanks to the courts. Only an idiot would accept from tiny donnie what one already has....as if that's some kind of compromise.