Trump's people won't defend him

[daveman]

The Dims admitted they have been working on impeachment for nearly 3 years.
They were looking for any excuse.

If these are the new rules, the next Dimm POTUS is already impeached, we just need to find the reason.

Democrats hate it when you use the rules they created against them.

 

[EvilCat Breath]

And you wonder why it's just not going the way you think it should. That hearing was the trial.

WTF are you TALKING about?

It's not like we haven't done this before dumbass

Yes. The house presented the evidence against Clinton and the senate voted to acquit.

You THOUGHT that the house hearing was the same as a grand jury. It wasn't. That was the original error. The House presents the evidence. The senate considers the evidence. The SC Chief Justice is the judge.

 

[Lesh]

The senate considers the evidence.

And that evidence is PRESENTED to them in the SENATE TRIAL. Moscow Mitch has said he will allow no evidence or witnesses to be presented

As happened in the Clinton Impeachment.

Jesus

 

[beautress]

McConnell has to prevent any testimony in the impeachment trial, because Trump's people don't want to try to defend him in sworn testimony. It was easy for them to not appear before the house investigation because Trump didn't want them to testify, but he wants his people to stand up and vigorously defend him in the trial. Those potential witnesses are still afraid of being caught in lies, or not being energetic enough in their defense of Trump. It's just too much of a chance for them to take. McConnell has to either prevent everybody from testifying, or try to explain why Trump's people are a no show.

President Trump's people are busy scaring up more jobs for more workers at higher rates than they ever had before. They're finding resources to give humanitarian care for troubled people who are at the detention center they set up. Others are communicating with contractors to continue doing their jobs.

President Trump, take some Co-Q 10. It will give you energy and comfort to get you through these unbelievable days of Democrat misbehaviors.

Meanwhile, back at the boards, some of us are getting mighty tired of the samo-samo Democrat maliciousness toward the guy who beat their darlin Ms. Clinton.

 

[beautress]

Good night all. Those who have children, hope you see beaming little faces happy with new toys to play with, pretty jammies and school clothes, too.

 

[Dragonlady]

McConnell has to prevent any testimony in the impeachment trial, because Trump's people don't want to try to defend him in sworn testimony. It was easy for them to not appear before the house investigation because Trump didn't want them to testify, but he wants his people to stand up and vigorously defend him in the trial. Those potential witnesses are still afraid of being caught in lies, or not being energetic enough in their defense of Trump. It's just too much of a chance for them to take. McConnell has to either prevent everybody from testifying, or try to explain why Trump's people are a no show.

Why would Trump call any witnesses, the Constitution say he must be accused of "high crimes or misdemeanors", he's not even accused of any crime. It's a no brainer acquittal.

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And that would be false. The Constitution does not say he must be accused of any statutory crimes, but mentioned several things worthy of impeachment, like asking foreign powers to meddle in elections. Impeachment can arise from abuse of power or violation of the public trust, neither of which are prosecutable, and both of which are applicable to the Trump Impeachment.

Abuse of Power is a crime under the Constitution, as is Obstruction of Congress.

 

[Polishprince]

McConnell has to prevent any testimony in the impeachment trial, because Trump's people don't want to try to defend him in sworn testimony. It was easy for them to not appear before the house investigation because Trump didn't want them to testify, but he wants his people to stand up and vigorously defend him in the trial. Those potential witnesses are still afraid of being caught in lies, or not being energetic enough in their defense of Trump. It's just too much of a chance for them to take. McConnell has to either prevent everybody from testifying, or try to explain why Trump's people are a no show.

There is no case against President Trump at all. All of the so-called "witnesses" offered only opinions and hearsay twice removed. Nothing admissible.

If, and only if, the House managers produce a case that proves something, then President Trump may well call witnesses.

But unless the libs have something, why bother? It isn't up to the accused to prove anything

 

[OKTexas]

McConnell has to prevent any testimony in the impeachment trial, because Trump's people don't want to try to defend him in sworn testimony. It was easy for them to not appear before the house investigation because Trump didn't want them to testify, but he wants his people to stand up and vigorously defend him in the trial. Those potential witnesses are still afraid of being caught in lies, or not being energetic enough in their defense of Trump. It's just too much of a chance for them to take. McConnell has to either prevent everybody from testifying, or try to explain why Trump's people are a no show.

Why would Trump call any witnesses, the Constitution say he must be accused of "high crimes or misdemeanors", he's not even accused of any crime. It's a no brainer acquittal.

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And that would be false. The Constitution does not say he must be accused of any statutory crimes, but mentioned several things worthy of impeachment, like asking foreign powers to meddle in elections. Impeachment can arise from abuse of power or violation of the public trust, neither of which are prosecutable, and both of which are applicable to the Trump Impeachment.

Abuse of Power is a crime under the Constitution, as is Obstruction of Congress.

Sorry child, just because you commie talking points says it's so, doesn't make it so. The founders soundly rejected maladministration as a basis for impeachment, which is where both of your false claims would fall. They specifically said high crime, high misdemeanors in their criteria, not what ever is the fancy of the house at any given time.

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[Sun Devil 92]

McConnell has to prevent any testimony in the impeachment trial, because Trump's people don't want to try to defend him in sworn testimony. It was easy for them to not appear before the house investigation because Trump didn't want them to testify, but he wants his people to stand up and vigorously defend him in the trial. Those potential witnesses are still afraid of being caught in lies, or not being energetic enough in their defense of Trump. It's just too much of a chance for them to take. McConnell has to either prevent everybody from testifying, or try to explain why Trump's people are a no show.

Why would Trump call any witnesses, the Constitution say he must be accused of "high crimes or misdemeanors", he's not even accused of any crime. It's a no brainer acquittal.

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And that would be false. The Constitution does not say he must be accused of any statutory crimes, but mentioned several things worthy of impeachment, like asking foreign powers to meddle in elections. Impeachment can arise from abuse of power or violation of the public trust, neither of which are prosecutable, and both of which are applicable to the Trump Impeachment.

Abuse of Power is a crime under the Constitution, as is Obstruction of Congress.

Sorry child, just because you commie talking points says it's so, doesn't make it so. The founders soundly rejected maladministration as a basis for impeachment, which is where both of your false claims would fall. They specifically said high crime, high misdemeanors in their criteria, not what ever is the fancy of the house at any given time.

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The Butthurt left just can't let go.

I so look forward to five more years of watching them with their heads stuck squarely up their asses.

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

Trump supporters are dug in on Trump. Trump haters are dug in on Trump.

dont waste your time trying to change people's minds, my friends!

The good news is, the polls taken yesterday reversed themselves and it doesn't look real good for Rump. He's back to going backwards in support and the ones that wanted the Impeachment has gone up to 52% versus 36%. His support has dropped back to less than 48 again and is falling fast with the number that wants him gone are rising to over 50%. The good news is, the Republican Senators acceptance is dropping even faster. But they started at just over 20% so it's a real hard thing to get it to go lower but they figured out a way, in the last few days to accomplish that.

Where do you acquire all of this bullshit? We all know it is bullshit because you never post links to where you didn't find this crap!

USA Today. But I forget, Rush doesn't want you reading anything that he and Hannity didn't write.

Where is the link, dumbass?

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

It's you folks pushing false BS, actors in Ukraine tried to influence the 2016 election, their sitting ambassador to the US, at the time, wrote an op-ed to a US paper against Trump. He was justified in asking Zelensky to look into it. Also shit stinks to high heaven around the Bidens, Trump asked for cooperation with the AG concerning them. You can't show me one quote in the call transcript where Trump literally asked for something for himself.

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By asking (actually demanding) that an investigation be "Announced" about his main political rival IS something for himself. And then dangling the carrot to get it. The fact that he got caught doing it very quickly doesn't change the fact that the demand was made. Then he tried to cover it up. Nixon was going to be Impeached for doing less and had the sense to resign for the good of the Nation. Rump doesn't care about what's good for the Nation. He only cares about what he believes is good for Rump and the Nation be damned.

Uh, no one testified about that. Yu need to read the transcript.

You are the King of Hyperbole.

Uh, yes, someone did.

Sondland: Trump only wanted Ukraine to announce investigation into Biden, not start real inquiry

Hearsay doesn't count. Try again

This isn't hearsay.

“I never heard anyone say that the investigations had to start, or had to be completed. The only thing I heard from Mr. Giuliani or otherwise, was that they had to be announced [publicly] in some form and that form kept changing.”

If it isn't hearsay, provide a link.​

The red text is by definition hearsay because Sondland never heard Trump say it!

That would be like me testifying that you told me that Bulldog sucks donkey dicks! That is not me saying Bulldog sucks donkey dicks, but that YOU said that Bulldog sucks donkey dicks.

I have no proof that Bulldog sucks donkey dicks. Unless you testify the Bulldog does in fact suck donkey dicks, nothing can be proven by what I heard.

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

McConnell has to prevent any testimony in the impeachment trial, because Trump's people don't want to try to defend him in sworn testimony. It was easy for them to not appear before the house investigation because Trump didn't want them to testify, but he wants his people to stand up and vigorously defend him in the trial. Those potential witnesses are still afraid of being caught in lies, or not being energetic enough in their defense of Trump. It's just too much of a chance for them to take. McConnell has to either prevent everybody from testifying, or try to explain why Trump's people are a no show.

You must have a really great crystal ball

the fact is trump needs no defense

your side has the burden of proof

McConnell already said proof doesn't matter. The fix is in. The right should be proud that your party openly laughs at the thought that you might show some integrity. Everybody knows you have no integrity to show.

When and where did he say that? What has you confused is likely him stating that to Democrats in the House, proof doesn't matter!

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

McConnell already said proof doesn't matter. The fix is in. The right should be proud that your party openly laughs at the thought that you might show some integrity. Everybody knows you have no integrity to show.

Proof of what? You Stalinists charged him with nothing. This entire farce is meant to interfere with the 2020 election, it has no other purpose. It's not an impeachment, just election tampering.

I am a trump supporter

And that precludes any hint of integrity.

Liberals have been plotting impeach trump ever since he won the 2016 election

You think that justifies his disregard of ethics and the law?

Why do the Articles not contain any reference to violations of laws or ethics?

Because none exist, that's why!

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

It does not matter. Trump's staff could testify Trump shot someone on Fifth Avenue, provide documentary evidence (photos of the crime scene with circles and arrows and a paragraph on the back of each one explaining what each one was for...), and the Monkey Jim Jordan and his band of screeching simians would pound the table and argue about process, then not one of them would vote to impeach.

Nor would the Republicans in the Senate convict.

McConnell: 'I'm Not Impartial' About Impeachment

Once again, no crimes committed so no witnesses needed.
This is purely a political trial; NOT A CRIMINAL TRIAL!

It's the same thing as a CEO being called in front of the Board. No crimes need be done. But job performance and Company Policy comes to play. And yes, in a Corporate Business, there is quite a bit of Politics involved in who gets hired and who gets fired. Rump is being called in front of the Board. And he's losing fast these days. And the harder you and yours tries to cover for him, the deeper you and yours gets. Moderates are starting to speak out. Moderates normally don't care one way or another who is or who isn't President but this time around, Moderates are getting involved. And that scares the living crap out of The Criminal In Charge and his merry band of criminals. So keep spouting off and the more Moderates will get involved.

Independents dont want this charade. More and more going to Trump every day. Your stupidity is noted and expected. Trump will roll to re-election and you will cry some more. Enjoy.

Except, in the new Polls yesterday, the Impeachment support went back to 52% versus 36% against. What that means is, the 36% is the Party of the Rump fanatical member supporters. The Moderates want the Impeachment but don't really support the Senate Trial. Sounds like Nancy is making headway by not presenting it to the Senate. Moderates are speaking loudly and that is the largest voting stock. November is coming and it appears that the Dems are going to present a Moderate as a Candidate, either Biden or Mayor Pete. Either one kicks Rumps ass.

You have a very Merry Christmas, Comrade.

Mayor Pete couldn't even win his home state of Indiana, dumbass!

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

McConnell has to prevent any testimony in the impeachment trial, because Trump's people don't want to try to defend him in sworn testimony. It was easy for them to not appear before the house investigation because Trump didn't want them to testify, but he wants his people to stand up and vigorously defend him in the trial. Those potential witnesses are still afraid of being caught in lies, or not being energetic enough in their defense of Trump. It's just too much of a chance for them to take. McConnell has to either prevent everybody from testifying, or try to explain why Trump's people are a no show.

Didn't you traitors have full control in the house to present any witnesses you wanted, yet still couldn't manage to present any fact witnesses and just stuck to defamation by Marxist academics?

So we have a faux impeachment, with no crimes or misdemeanors even alleged, put out for the specific purpose of influencing and altering the 2020 election. Gross abuse of power by the house Communists.

To compound it, Nancy Pelosi and her Communist party are violating the Constitution by refusing to move the process to the Senate, obstructing congress.

So these traitor democrats have abused power and obstructed Congress in order to rig the 2020 election.

GOP lawmakers are just immoral, mindless, parasites that infest Donald Trump's anus.

Nevertheless, their testimony should be heard for the sake of the American people and history.

Why didn't you Communists call them into your Star Chamber or with your Stalinist Show Trial?

Let's call Hunter Biden. After all, this whole farce is based on the fact that Joe Biden sent $1.8 billion to Burisma, which promptly vanished, right as they kicked back $3.2 million through Hunter. Let's call Eric Ciaramella, get him to testify under oath as to the first time he met with Lying Schitt, when the plot to frame up the president was cooked up with Mark Zaid. Let's call Adam Schitt's chief of staff and find out when Schitt first proposed using impeachment as a means of influencing the 2020 election?

You commie fuckers want to play? Ah but Nazi Pelosi is obstructing congress by withholding the faux impeachment. Hey, the whole thing is an abuse of power designed to corrupt our election, so no surprise she is trying to drag it out.

Let's call Jared Kushner, Ivanka Trump, Donald Jr., and Eric and waterboard them to get their confession of pillaging and plundering while the orange man fiddles.

Yup. You definitely need at CAT scan. There's something wrong in your head.

According to your phrenologist?

Good one. I had to look that one up. How did you know I failed Pre Med (never even thought of attending it).

Failed Pre-Med? Hell, you probably failed recess!

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

They will, they can't convict when no crime is alleged.

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Impeachment doesn't require a crime.

Donald Trump is guilty of abuse of power and obstructing Congress.

Guess you've never read the Constitution. Now run along child, adults are talking.

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Trumpers are blathering, not talking.

Feel free to quote the Article, Section and Clause that says the house can impeach a federal official for any reason they chose. Come on commie, I know you can do it. LMFAO

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Wow, has a week already passed and you party of rumpsters are screaming for us to repeat the cites once again? Tell you what, stop being lazy and stupid and just look at the past posts in USMB. You'll find it more than once. You get a nice tattoo that you can tattoo onto your forehead for this effort so there can be no doubt without you even opening your mouth.

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"Cites" is not a word in the context you used. Try again.

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

McConnell has to prevent any testimony in the impeachment trial, because Trump's people don't want to try to defend him in sworn testimony. It was easy for them to not appear before the house investigation because Trump didn't want them to testify, but he wants his people to stand up and vigorously defend him in the trial. Those potential witnesses are still afraid of being caught in lies, or not being energetic enough in their defense of Trump. It's just too much of a chance for them to take. McConnell has to either prevent everybody from testifying, or try to explain why Trump's people are a no show.

Why would Trump call any witnesses, the Constitution say he must be accused of "high crimes or misdemeanors", he's not even accused of any crime. It's a no brainer acquittal.

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And that would be false. The Constitution does not say he must be accused of any statutory crimes, but mentioned several things worthy of impeachment, like asking foreign powers to meddle in elections. Impeachment can arise from abuse of power or violation of the public trust, neither of which are prosecutable, and both of which are applicable to the Trump Impeachment.

Abuse of Power is a crime under the Constitution, as is Obstruction of Congress.

Where are abuse of power and obstruction of Congress in the Constitution? Quote it by Article, Section and Clause!

 

[Uncensored2008]

Witnesses are never called during jury deliberations.

They are of course called during the TRIAL

What a stupid comment

Comrade, how many witnesses were called during the Senate phase of the Clinton impeachment?

See stupid, impeachment is not a trial. The house is to weigh the facts and call witnesses to build a case which THEY present to the Senate, just as was done with Johnson and Clinton.

BUT this is not an impeachment, THIS is election tampering, and every last person in America knows it.

 

[Uncensored2008]

The Dims admitted they have been working on impeachment for nearly 3 years.
They were looking for any excuse.

If these are the new rules, the next Dimm POTUS is already impeached, we just need to find the reason.

Ultimately, the Communists want chaos to destroy the nation. This hoax that Nazi Pelosi and her Communist party are perpetrating destroys the Constitutional precept of impeachment. But that is no recklessness on the part of the Stalinists, it is by design. The INTENT is the destruction of the Constitution. The Senate has a duty to reject the articles that the Stalinists drafted as they fail to meet to Constitutional threshold of high crimes and misdemeanors. Pelosi and Communist party know this, hence the unconstitutional delay of sending the house managers to the Senate to present their case, thereby obstructing congress. The Communists can't present a case because they don't have a case, they never did. They never intended this to go to the Senate, this entire farce is nothing but an abuse of power by the house Communists to interfere in the 2020 election.

This is not an impeachment, it's election tampering.

 

[Uncensored2008]

The senate considers the evidence.

And that evidence is PRESENTED to them in the SENATE TRIAL. Moscow Mitch has said he will allow no evidence or witnesses to be presented

As happened in the Clinton Impeachment.

Jesus

That's right stupid, and the house managers have no right to call witnesses or do anything save present the evidence they already assembled in the articles of impeachment.

BUT this isn't an impeachment, is it?