U.S. military decimated under Obama

[g5000]

Inside the Pentagon s Trillion Dollar F-35 Embarrassment

 

[g5000]

In real dollars, we have not spent this much money on Defense since World War II.

We are not in a World War.

Think about it. Not even during the hottest periods of the Cold War were we spending this much. Korea, Viet Nam, the Reagan massive military build-up.

And we were facing an existential threat back then.

We aren't now.

There is no sane reason for this kind of spending.

As for the military being "decimated", what a crock of shit. There is always a wind down after we wrap up a war. And we are wrapping up two wars.

I spent 20 years on active service and went through ups and downs like this before. This is nothing new or unusual.

Look at the figures I posted above. There is some serious criminal waste going on.

 

[rightwinger]

The only cuts our military has taken were because of the sequester

If Congress could do their job it wouldn't have bee necessary

 

[Luddly Neddite]

The undeniable facts are Bush & the neo-cons failed to protect US, got us attacked on 9/11, blew $Trillions killed 8,000 of our best, created a police state, destroyed jobs, the economy & totally failed to get Bin Laden. Republicans do not protect US, they only steal, raise prices & spend.

The undeniable fact is that 911 was planned, financed, trained and staged under Clinton, who did almost as much as Obama to weaken the US military. Clinton had the chance to take out Bin Laden before 911but he pussied out. Clinton was too busy bombing Christians to save Muslims and sending Rangers to get killed taking out Somalian Warlords than he was to protect America from terrorism.

The other undeniable fact is that Clinton was too busy getting blowjobs from Monica to do anything about the 1993 attack on the World Trade Center. He said it was a matter for the New York Police Department. It was Clinton's weak response to the 1993 attack on New York to entourage another try at it and saw what happen, didn't we?

Clinton and Obama have two things in common in their zeal to weaken the US Military. They both were too cowardly to serve in the military and neither one of them had a sense of duty to the US.

Speaking of NeoCons Obama is a NeoCon's wet dream. He fought the war in Iraq for three years, called it a success and recently reintroduced bombing and ground troops. He escalated the war in Afghanistan getting thousands of Americans killed and now is talking about keeping troops there for a much longer time and he bombed the shit out of Libyia, leading to one of the factions of ISIS. Don't be hypocritical about complaining about interventionism and then vote for an interventionist shithead like Obama. It just shows you really don't believe what you preach.

By the way, stop blaming Obama's failures on Bush. After six years of that silly crap it is getting boring and just shows what a partisan fool you are.

Boy, you fools will go to almost any length to avoid blaming the shrub for his own actions.

 

[g5000]

I saw so much waste and abuse when I served that I refused to go to work for a defense contractor when I retired. They wanted me badly because I had a skill set only about a dozen people on earth had. I took great pleasure in telling them to shove it, even though I would have made a lot of bank.

But I could not take what I considered to be blood money that came at the expense of my comrades.

It's time to get vicious with these defense contractors. Eisenhower had no idea just how right he was about the MIC.

 

[SassyIrishLass]

The undeniable facts are Bush & the neo-cons failed to protect US, got us attacked on 9/11, blew $Trillions killed 8,000 of our best, created a police state, destroyed jobs, the economy & totally failed to get Bin Laden. Republicans do not protect US, they only steal, raise prices & spend.

The undeniable fact is that 911 was planned, financed, trained and staged under Clinton, who did almost as much as Obama to weaken the US military. Clinton had the chance to take out Bin Laden before 911but he pussied out. Clinton was too busy bombing Christians to save Muslims and sending Rangers to get killed taking out Somalian Warlords than he was to protect America from terrorism.

The other undeniable fact is that Clinton was too busy getting blowjobs from Monica to do anything about the 1993 attack on the World Trade Center. He said it was a matter for the New York Police Department. It was Clinton's weak response to the 1993 attack on New York to entourage another try at it and saw what happen, didn't we?

Clinton and Obama have two things in common in their zeal to weaken the US Military. They both were too cowardly to serve in the military and neither one of them had a sense of duty to the US.

Speaking of NeoCons Obama is a NeoCon's wet dream. He fought the war in Iraq for three years, called it a success and recently reintroduced bombing and ground troops. He escalated the war in Afghanistan getting thousands of Americans killed and now is talking about keeping troops there for a much longer time and he bombed the shit out of Libyia, leading to one of the factions of ISIS. Don't be hypocritical about complaining about interventionism and then vote for an interventionist shithead like Obama. It just shows you really don't believe what you preach.

By the way, stop blaming Obama's failures on Bush. After six years of that silly crap it is getting boring and just shows what a partisan fool you are.

Boy, you fools will go to almost any length to avoid blaming the shrub for his own actions.

Like you go to all lengths to blame Bush for every thing. Bbbbbbutt BOOOOOOSH ring a bell?

 

[Flash]

The only cuts our military has taken were because of the sequester

If Congress could do their job it wouldn't have bee necessary

If Obama wasn't in the business of raiding the Treasury for his filthy special interest groups like the welfare queens, illegals, failed corporations like GM, environmental wackos and unions we could have cut back on Federal spending and not have to weaken the national defense.

 

[bgr39]

It's too late by then.

Not at all. Unless you wanna get wasted too you're not gonna use nuclear weapons. Any war where even one nuke gets used opens pandora's box to a full release (and not the pleasant happy kind.) So a ground operation to secure territory is all that's left. You could never take over the US for any length of time (geography working in our favor and making supply lines all but impossible,) but the attack gesture could result in concessions being given when it's over so you never do it again.

Defense contractors love wars. Doesn't matter what they're about, how successful they are, or how long they last. Longer the better. Wars make the contractors money. If defense spending gets cut, they need an enemy to justify ramping spending back up. No better boogeyman than the guys who just landed on the East Coast.

If they see defense spending being scaled back bit by bit over time, they might not resist it and even encourage it on the hope someone takes a shot at us. Once that happens, demands to be protected come and spending goes back up. Like drug dealers giving free samples knowing people will get hooked and spend lots more than the free sample cost the dealer.

Actually Defense contractors don't love war. They love weapons development. That is the biggest expense to the government. Once a system is tested at government expense they can sell it to anyone. If you're in a war expense is a major factor, and cuts have to be made. New weapons have to take a back seat to sheer numbers.

Don't get money to develop new weapons systems if no one's depleting their existing supplies in wars.

Meanwhile our enemies are developing newer and more sophisticated weapons making ours obsolete. Yeah...brilliant

Which enemies are those who are developing "newer and more sophisticated weapons"?

Gee, the Chinese have rolled out a couple of stealth fighter planes (that look amazingly like OUR stealth planes).
Given a little longer, without the US working on better planes, the Chinese are balls-to-the-walls, trying to make their planes superior to our planes.

 

[Camp]

Reading the last batch of post it appears the OP has been conceded as a bust and it's time to deflect away from the stupid misrepresentation. The military is being rebuilt after being fucked up by Bush/Cheney. Lets run away from that and go after some other way to bash Obama.

You must have ignored the facts posted.

Facts have to be interpreted. Numbers are easy to use for impressing suckers. Quality and efficiency is what counts when it comes to weaponry. We don't need anymore huge occupation armies. Hopefully we are done with that kind of stupidity.

 

[bgr39]

The only cuts our military has taken were because of the sequester

If Congress could do their job it wouldn't have bee necessary

If Obama wasn't in the business of raiding the Treasury for his filthy special interest groups like the welfare queens, illegals, failed corporations like GM, environmental wackos and unions we could have cut back on Federal spending and not have to weaken the national defense.

Gee, didn't obama spend $1.4 trillion MORE than he took in, the first year of his presidency?

 

[SassyIrishLass]

Reading the last batch of post it appears the OP has been conceded as a bust and it's time to deflect away from the stupid misrepresentation. The military is being rebuilt after being fucked up by Bush/Cheney. Lets run away from that and go after some other way to bash Obama.

You must have ignored the facts posted.

Facts have to be interpreted. Numbers are easy to use for impressing suckers. Quality and efficiency is what counts when it comes to weaponry. We don't need anymore huge occupation armies. Hopefully we are done with that kind of stupidity.

As long as you post the stupidity will continue

 

[Flash]

Boy, you fools will go to almost any length to avoid blaming the shrub for his own actions.

Moon Bats are notorious for blaming all of Obama's failures and incompetence on Bush. In fact that is the only thing they can do other than outright denial. they even try to blame Clinton's failures on Bush if they get an opportunity.

Bush had failures of his own but blaming 911 on him after Clinton did absolutely nothing about terrorism kind of takes the cake. All of the planning, budgeting, staging and training for 911 happen while Clinton was President. The only thing that didn't happen was the execution. Clinton was warned of Bin Laden but I guess Monica's mouth around his dick was more important than worrying about national security. Kind of like Obama ignoring Benghazi, terrorist executions and terrorist attacks abroad because of golf.

 

[BlindBoo]

The undeniable facts are Bush & the neo-cons failed to protect US, got us attacked on 9/11, blew $Trillions killed 8,000 of our best, created a police state, destroyed jobs, the economy & totally failed to get Bin Laden. Republicans do not protect US, they only steal, raise prices & spend.

The undeniable fact is that 911 was planned, financed, trained and staged under Clinton, who did almost as much as Obama to weaken the US military. Clinton had the chance to take out Bin Laden before 911but he pussied out. Clinton was too busy bombing Christians to save Muslims and sending Rangers to get killed taking out Somalian Warlords than he was to protect America from terrorism.

The other undeniable fact is that Clinton was too busy getting blowjobs from Monica to do anything about the 1993 attack on the World Trade Center. He said it was a matter for the New York Police Department. It was Clinton's weak response to the 1993 attack on New York to entourage another try at it and saw what happen, didn't we?

Clinton and Obama have two things in common in their zeal to weaken the US Military. They both were too cowardly to serve in the military and neither one of them had a sense of duty to the US.

Speaking of NeoCons Obama is a NeoCon's wet dream. He fought the war in Iraq for three years, called it a success and recently reintroduced bombing and ground troops. He escalated the war in Afghanistan getting thousands of Americans killed and now is talking about keeping troops there for a much longer time and he bombed the shit out of Libyia, leading to one of the factions of ISIS. Don't be hypocritical about complaining about interventionism and then vote for an interventionist shithead like Obama. It just shows you really don't believe what you preach.

By the way, stop blaming Obama's failures on Bush. After six years of that silly crap it is getting boring and just shows what a partisan fool you are.

Hilarious. First you blame Clinton for what happened 8 months into the Bush presidency and in the very next paragraph blame Clinton for something that happened a little over a month into his presidency without a mention of the previous president who was in office while that attack was being planned.

The you claim it was a blow job from Monica 1993 that caused the president to not be able to do anything about it. Fact is Monica didn't start working in the WH until 1995.

Just goes to show how many conclusion you've made based on lies.

 

[g5000]

Gee, the Chinese have rolled out a couple of stealth fighter planes (that look amazingly like OUR stealth planes).
Given a little longer, without the US working on better planes, the Chinese are balls-to-the-walls, trying to make their planes superior to our planes.

What do you mean "without the US working on better planes"?

Did you not see my link about the F-35? Wouldn't it have been nice that instead of wasting a trillion dollars, we got a newer, better fighter?

The problem is not that we aren't always developing better, faster, superior gear. The problem is there is an astronomical amount of waste.

And the Chinese are decades behind us.

 

[Flash]

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Gee, didn't obama spend $1.4 trillion MORE than he took in, the first year of his presidency?

Over his six years about seven trillion more. Actual a couple of trillion more than that if you include the deficits he voted for as Senator.

 

[SassyIrishLass]

Gee, the Chinese have rolled out a couple of stealth fighter planes (that look amazingly like OUR stealth planes).
Given a little longer, without the US working on better planes, the Chinese are balls-to-the-walls, trying to make their planes superior to our planes.

What do you mean "without the US working on better planes"?

Did you not see my link about the F-35? Wouldn't it have been nice that instead of wasting a trillion dollars, we got a newer, better fighter?

The problem is not that we aren't always developing better, faster, superior gear. The problem is there is an astronomical amount of waste.

But you were just fine with the pork laden stimulus

 

[regent]

If we can't fight two wars and that puts us in danger, what about not being able to fight three wars? Usually, if the military is being decimated, it means a general has been released from service.

 

[g5000]

Gee, the Chinese have rolled out a couple of stealth fighter planes (that look amazingly like OUR stealth planes).
Given a little longer, without the US working on better planes, the Chinese are balls-to-the-walls, trying to make their planes superior to our planes.

What do you mean "without the US working on better planes"?

Did you not see my link about the F-35? Wouldn't it have been nice that instead of wasting a trillion dollars, we got a newer, better fighter?

The problem is not that we aren't always developing better, faster, superior gear. The problem is there is an astronomical amount of waste.

But you were just fine with the pork laden stimulus

Says who? The voices in your head are lying to you again.

 

[SassyIrishLass]

Gee, the Chinese have rolled out a couple of stealth fighter planes (that look amazingly like OUR stealth planes).
Given a little longer, without the US working on better planes, the Chinese are balls-to-the-walls, trying to make their planes superior to our planes.

What do you mean "without the US working on better planes"?

Did you not see my link about the F-35? Wouldn't it have been nice that instead of wasting a trillion dollars, we got a newer, better fighter?

The problem is not that we aren't always developing better, faster, superior gear. The problem is there is an astronomical amount of waste.

But you were just fine with the pork laden stimulus

Says who? The voices in your head are lying to you again.

Take your little insult and cram it

 

[Flash]

The undeniable facts are Bush & the neo-cons failed to protect US, got us attacked on 9/11, blew $Trillions killed 8,000 of our best, created a police state, destroyed jobs, the economy & totally failed to get Bin Laden. Republicans do not protect US, they only steal, raise prices & spend.

The undeniable fact is that 911 was planned, financed, trained and staged under Clinton, who did almost as much as Obama to weaken the US military. Clinton had the chance to take out Bin Laden before 911but he pussied out. Clinton was too busy bombing Christians to save Muslims and sending Rangers to get killed taking out Somalian Warlords than he was to protect America from terrorism.

The other undeniable fact is that Clinton was too busy getting blowjobs from Monica to do anything about the 1993 attack on the World Trade Center. He said it was a matter for the New York Police Department. It was Clinton's weak response to the 1993 attack on New York to entourage another try at it and saw what happen, didn't we?

Clinton and Obama have two things in common in their zeal to weaken the US Military. They both were too cowardly to serve in the military and neither one of them had a sense of duty to the US.

Speaking of NeoCons Obama is a NeoCon's wet dream. He fought the war in Iraq for three years, called it a success and recently reintroduced bombing and ground troops. He escalated the war in Afghanistan getting thousands of Americans killed and now is talking about keeping troops there for a much longer time and he bombed the shit out of Libyia, leading to one of the factions of ISIS. Don't be hypocritical about complaining about interventionism and then vote for an interventionist shithead like Obama. It just shows you really don't believe what you preach.

By the way, stop blaming Obama's failures on Bush. After six years of that silly crap it is getting boring and just shows what a partisan fool you are.

Hilarious. First you blame Clinton for what happened 8 months into the Bush presidency and in the very next paragraph blame Clinton for something that happened a little over a month into his presidency without a mention of the previous president who was in office while that attack was being planned.

The you claim it was a blow job from Monica 1993 that caused the president to not be able to do anything about it. Fact is Monica didn't start working in the WH until 1995.

Just goes to show how many conclusion you've made based on lies.

911 was staged, planned, trained and funded under Clinton's watch. The only thing that didn't happen was the execution. Clinton ignored the 1993 attack on the WTC for the most part, calling it a matter for the NYC Police Department and Bin Laden took advantage of it.

Clinton had the chance to kill Bin Laden but chickenshitted out .

I will be critical of Bush for several things but blaming 911 on him after Clinton's cowardice and incompetence isn't one of them.

Stop being a partisan asshole. It just makes you look like a fool.