U.S. State Dept.: Killig ISIS won't defeat them. We must give them jobs.

[Roadrunner]

Self esteem classes might help too

We can't even provide jobs and self-esteem to our own ghetto rats, how the Hell can we help them?

These fuckers in the White House are insane.

 

[Iceweasel]

Curious that people are calling Isis a death cult. When looking at the list of extreme terror organizations I see a pattern of Islamic terror organizations that use the same methods. Kidnapping beheading extortion bombing. Yet just Isis is the one that's a cult....and these Islamic terror organizations are all over the world, Africa to the Philippians and everywhere in between. Maybe it's just a coincidence that they are Islamic. Lol

That's your understanding. Mine is that Islam is a death cult. Dying for allah is as good as it gets, they have no New Testament, it's all law all the time. Either they die or the infidel does, it's allah's will.

 

[Roadrunner]

What those diaperhead fucks need is about 100 megatons of canned sunshine.

Why didn't Bush nuke their ass?

You can't nuke a bunch of fucks spread out along the desert from Algeria to Afghanistan.

You could roast quite a few of the fuckers by nuking the Kaaba at Ramadamadingdong, which might or might not get the message across.

 

[nodoginnafight]

Street gangs typically recruit in areas of abject poverty. Nothing new here. But once they've crossed the line these thugs have crossed, the time for job training has passed.

 

[nodoginnafight]

Curious that people are calling Isis a death cult. When looking at the list of extreme terror organizations I see a pattern of Islamic terror organizations that use the same methods. Kidnapping beheading extortion bombing. Yet just Isis is the one that's a cult....and these Islamic terror organizations are all over the world, Africa to the Philippians and everywhere in between. Maybe it's just a coincidence that they are Islamic. Lol

That's your understanding. Mine is that Islam is a death cult. Dying for allah is as good as it gets, they have no New Testament, it's all law all the time. Either they die or the infidel does, it's allah's will.

If that were true - and 23% of the worlds population was really a death cult, we would have already seen crap that makes 911 look like a mild disagreement.

 

[Roadrunner]

Street gangs typically recruit in areas of abject poverty. Nothing new here. But once they've crossed the line these thugs have crossed, the time for job training has passed.

You referring to Chicago or Syria??

 

[idb]

From the OP

What the West really needs to take on the Islamic State is ... a jobs program.

I think the US Military Industrial Complex is readying to take them on as a jobs program already.

 

[TimothysAlaska]

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Curious that people are calling Isis a death cult. When looking at the list of extreme terror organizations I see a pattern of Islamic terror organizations that use the same methods. Kidnapping beheading extortion bombing. Yet just Isis is the one that's a cult....and these Islamic terror organizations are all over the world, Africa to the Philippians and everywhere in between. Maybe it's just a coincidence that they are Islamic. Lol

That's your understanding. Mine is that Islam is a death cult. Dying for allah is as good as it gets, they have no New Testament, it's all law all the time. Either they die or the infidel does, it's allah's will.

I was being sarcastic. Lol

 

[Rozman]

The United States has plenty of people out of work....
I don't see them doing doing what ISIS is doing.

 

[TimothysAlaska]

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More and more Muslims in Egypt (90% Muslim); Jordan (95% Muslim); Syria (87% Muslim); and Iraq (97% Muslim) are getting more and more involved in the fight against this doomsday cult - ISIS.

I welcome them aboard.

Common sense should dictate that they need us to take the lead. Unfortunately, that takes leadership, which we currently lack. We should be spearheading overwhelming quick-strike forces that strike and do not occupy. After we decimate ISIS, we should withdraw, then, when they re-appear, go back and do it over again. This stuff isn't rocket science. With no leadership to pull it off and no stomach for collateral damage, ISIS continues unfettered reign.

No - common sense should dictate that the leadership come from that region. We are resented for our interventions and so the more we assert our "leadership" the easier it is for groups like ISIS to play on that resentment for recruiting.

Screw that resentment false meme. Egypt bombed ISIS in Libya (without our intel, I might add) and ISIS said they have more coptic christians in the pipeline that they're going to behead in retaliation for bombing them. Well, guess what, they would be beheaded anyways whether or not Egypt bombed them. They're gonna kill, or recruit, any which way it's played!

This is becoming a nightmare, and spiraling out if control. It is turning into a free for all and obama calls this a coalition? To me this is dangerous and a slap in the face, obama is not leading!!! this bombing Libya should have been processed and told to us. Obama is out of control and has no leadership ability, it is an embarrassment and this is what I was afraid of.

A coalition works together they have a charter and work for goals, while to most Americans what Egypt and Jordan are doing seems good, it isn't, and is way way out of control. And dangerous and I think it will destabilize the whole region and make it more susceptible to Isis and other nefarious organizations. It is embarrassing to the usa and shows how inept the obama admin is. After a month of this you guys will see what I mean.

 

[francoHFW]

More deep RW "thought". Kill all muslims to get the 1% terrorists lol...

 

[Missouri_Mike]

More deep RW "thought". Kill all muslims to get the 1% terrorists lol...

Aren't muslims more like 99.9% of the terrorists?

 

[francoHFW]

Of course you believe their propaganda and are an accomplice in pissing off all muslims. The terrorists are thugs. Hostages report never seeing any Korans.

 

[Missouri_Mike]

Of course you believe their propaganda and are an accomplice in pissing off all muslims. The terrorists are thugs. Hostages report never seeing any Korans.

I think you just Harf'd

 

[Geaux4it]

Of course you believe their propaganda and are an accomplice in pissing off all muslims. The terrorists are thugs. Hostages report never seeing any Korans.

WTF?

-Geaux

 

[francoHFW]

Need a diagram? They're not religious leaders, they're thugs. You RW morons are working for them in effect...

 

[asaratis]

Need a diagram? They're not religious leaders, they're thugs. You RW morons are working for them in effect...

We need to kill all the thugs. We need the help of all the non-thugs to kill all the thugs. The thugs are the RADICAL MUSLIMS!


Kill ALL THUGS!!!

Kill ALL RADICAL MUSLIMS...AND THEIR CHILDREN!!!

 

[sealybobo]

Where on Earth do they get people like this?

Did we get the Japanese and Germans jobs, to get them to end WWII?

No. We killed them. Lots of them.

And we kept on killing them. And we developed bigger and better tanks, warships, planes, and bombs (some of them nuclear), to kill them even better and faster. And we demonstrated we were willing and able to use those things to kill unprecedented numbers of them. And we persuaded them that we would go on doing so until none of them were left alive to crawl out of the rubble. And that there was nothing they could do, to stop us.

And at that point, they agreed to end the war against us. And they were defeated.

(BTW, the Germans and Japanese weren't nearly as vicious as ISIS is today.)

And we didn't offer them a single job. (Until much later.)

Because back then, we knew that getting them jobs WOULD NOT MAKE THEM STOP ATTACKING US AND THEIR NEIGHBORS.

Did this State Department "spokesman" come up with this new "plan" by herself, that she announced yesterday?

Or did some higher State Dept official tell it to her, and tell her to go out and announce it?

Are the people who came up with this plan and announced it as U.S. policy yesterday, collecting unemployment benefits today?

If not, WHY NOT???

Why are we still paying these people money, to work at the State Dept.?

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State Department spokeswoman floats jobs as answer to ISIS Fox News

State Department spokeswoman floats jobs as answer to ISIS

Published February 17, 2015

What the West really needs to take on the Islamic State is ... a jobs program.

That's what a top State Department spokeswoman suggested when asked in a TV interview Monday night about what the U.S.-led coalition is doing to stop the slaughter of civilians by Islamic State militants across the region.

"We're killing a lot of them, and we're going to keep killing more of them. ... But we cannot win this war by killing them," department spokeswoman Marie Harf said on MSNBC's "Hardball." "We need ... to go after the root causes that leads people to join these groups, whether it's lack of opportunity for jobs, whether --"

At that point, Harf was interrupted by host Chris Matthews, who pointed out, "There's always going to be poor people. There's always going to be poor Muslims."

Harf continued to argue that the U.S. should work with other countries to "help improve their governance" and "help them build their economies so they can have job opportunities for these people."

She acknowledged there's "no easy solution" and said the U.S. would still take out ISIS leaders. But Harf said: "If we can help countries work at the root causes of this -- what makes these 17-year-old kids pick up an AK-47 instead of trying to start a business?"

Its probably true. Just like in Japan germany and Iraq we need to eventually do business with isis. Sucks.

But this is ultimately what this is all about. They're sick of being poor. Its a revolution.

But we can't negotiate with them. Can we? We did with the " terrorists" in Iraq and afganistan. Anyone think named karzi is a good guy or mooktada el sadr?

 

[francoHFW]

Need a diagram? They're not religious leaders, they're thugs. You RW morons are working for them in effect...

We need to kill all the thugs. We need the help of all the non-thugs to kill all the thugs. The thugs are the RADICAL MUSLIMS!


Kill ALL THUGS!!!

Kill ALL RADICAL MUSLIMS...AND THEIR CHILDREN!!!

They aren't Muslims at all- saying they are is stupid and destructive. BOOSHIE in fact, ie morononic and destructive. Pissing off Muslims is STUPID, just like sending in the troops in combat roles when no one wansts them- let them grow up and do their own fighting. Get it yet?.

 

[asaratis]

Need a diagram? They're not religious leaders, they're thugs. You RW morons are working for them in effect...

We need to kill all the thugs. We need the help of all the non-thugs to kill all the thugs. The thugs are the RADICAL MUSLIMS!


Kill ALL THUGS!!!

Kill ALL RADICAL MUSLIMS...AND THEIR CHILDREN!!!

They aren't Muslims at all- saying they are is stupid and destructive. BOOSHIE in fact, ie morononic and destructive. Pissing off Muslims is STUPID, just like sending in the troops in combat roles when no one wansts them- let them grow up and do their own fighting. Get it yet?.

They are Muslims. They are RADICAL Muslims...as opposed to the NON-RADICAL Muslims! Get it yet?


A history lesson that is still playing out in today's news.

In 732 AD the Muslim Army which was moving on Paris was defeated an turned back at Tours, France, by Charles Martell...

in 1571 AD the Muslim Army/ Navy was defeated by the Italians and Austrians as they tried to cross the Mediterranean to attack southern Europe
in the Battle of Lepanto.

...in 1683 AD the Turkish Muslim Army, attacking Eastern Europe, was finally defeated in the Battle of Vienna by German and Polish Christian Armies. ...this stuff has been going on for
1,400 years and half of these #$%&% politicians don't even know it !!!

...if these battles had not been won we might be speaking Arabic, and Christianity could be non - existent; Judaism certainly would be... And let
us not forget that Hitler was an admirer of Islam and that the Mufti of
Jerusalem was Hitler's guest in Berlin and raised Bosnian Muslim SS Divisions:
the 13th and 21st Waffen SS Divisions who killed Jews, Russians, Gypsies, and
any other "subhumans".

…in 1783 AD when the British Colonies that would become the United States of America gained independence from Great Britain, 5 Muslim countries of North Africa declared war on the newly independent country, hijacking and kidnapping merchant sailors and selling them for ransom, or into slavery. When the United States of America was established, we were forced to pay extortion fees amounting to 20 – 25% of our federal budget to those Muslim countries to keep them from their hijacking and kidnapping. It took two administrations, Washington and Adams, to build a sufficient Navy so that President Jefferson, in 1805, could send the Navy and Marines to conquer Tripoli and end the piracy. Islam has been at war with the USA since our founding.

Reflecting: A lot of Americans have become so insulated from reality that they imagine that America can suffer defeat without any inconvenience to themselves. Pause a moment, reflect back. These events are actual events from history. They really happened!!
Do you remember?
1. In 1968, Bobby Kennedy was shot and killed by a Muslim male.
2. In 1972 at the Munich Olympics, athletes were kidnapped and massacred by Muslim males.
3. In 1972 a Pan Am 747 was hijacked and eventually diverted to Cairo where a fuse was lit on final approach, it was blown up shortly after landing by Muslim males.
4. In 1973 a Pan Am 707 was destroyed in Rome , with 33 people killed, when it was attacked with grenades by Muslim males.
5. In 1979, the US embassy in Iran was taken over by Muslim males.
6. During the 1980's a number of Americans> were kidnapped in Lebanon by Muslim males.
7. In 1983, the US Marine barracks in Beirut was blown up by Muslim males.
8. In 1985, the cruise ship Achille Lauro was hijacked and a 70 year old American passenger was murdered and thrown overboard in his wheelchair by Muslim males.
9. In 1985, TWA flight 847 was hijacked at Athens , and a US Navy diver trying to rescue passengers was murdered by Muslim males.
10. In 1988, Pan Am Flight 103 was bombed by Muslim males.
11. In 1993 , the World Trade Center was bombed the first time by Muslim males.
12. In 1998, the US embassies in Kenya and Tanzania were bombed by Muslim males.
13. On 9/11/01, four airliners were hijacked; two were used as missiles to take down the World Trade Centers and of the remaining two, one crashed into the US Pentagon and the other was diverted and crashed by the passengers. Thousands of people were killed by Muslim males.
14. In 2002, the United States fought a war in Afghanistan against Muslim males.
15. In 2002, reporter Daniel Pearl was kidnapped and beheaded by---you guessed it was a Muslim male.
16. In 2013, Boston Marathon Bombing 4 Innocent people including a child killed, 264 injured by Muslim males.
17. In 2014 thousands of Christian men, women, and children are> slaughtered, defiled, and beheaded by Muslim males.

No, I really don't see a pattern here to justify profiling, do you?
So, to ensure we Americans never offend anyone, particularly fanatics intent on killing us, airport security screeners will no longer be allowed to profile certain people. Absolutely No Profiling! They must conduct random searches of 80-year-old women, little kids, airline pilots with proper identification, secret agents who are members of the President's security detail, 85-year old, Congressmen with metal hips, and Medal of Honor winner and former Governor Joe Foss, but leave Muslim Males, alone lest they be guilty of profiling.
Have the American people completely lost their Minds, or just their Power of Reason???