Unions say Obama is destroying the foundation of the 40-hour work week

The GOP has to kill the ACA now, because once major portions go into effect, all too many people are going to see that it has far more pluses than minuses, and that the minuses can be fixed.

Then why do they have to keep moving the goal posts? Why so many exceptions? Why are there 15,000 pages of regulations to a 20,000 page bill that no one person has even read yet....

It's too big to work.......

BTW, my family Doctor has already stopped taking new medicare patients. He can't afford to lose money every time he sees them.
 
Your response is highly emotional

:lmao:

We're being emotional? OK, maybe if you include laughing at you as "emotion." We're explaining hiring to you and you're getting upset. You are lecturing to people who actually hire and manage people something about which you have no actual experience in at all. But hey, you heard it on MS-NBC, it must be true.
 
Your response is highly emotional

:lmao:

We're being emotional? OK, maybe if you include laughing at you as "emotion." We're explaining hiring to you and you're getting upset. You are lecturing to people who actually hire and manage people something about which you have no actual experience in at all. But hey, you heard it on MS-NBC, it must be true.

We established in the first couple of pages that this poster is a unicorn rancher and chasser of rainbows.

Notice how no rational libs are posting in this thread?
 
Last month, leaders of three of the largest labor unions sent a scathing letter to Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid (D-NV) and House Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi (D-CA),
warning that if the problems with the insurance program are not addressed,
the new health care law will “shatter not only our hard-earned health benefits,
but destroy the foundation of the 40-hour work week that is the backbone of the American middle class.”

Why Organized Labor Is Organizing Against Obamacare | The Fiscal Times

So why the name "Affordable Care Act" if there are no jobs that can "afford care"???

the new health care law will “shatter not only our hard-earned health benefits, but destroy the foundation of the 40-hour work week that is the backbone of the American middle class.” -

when Cons said that we were fear mongers


“When you and the president sought our support for the Affordable Care Act, you pledged that if we liked the health plans we have now, we could keep them. Sadly, that promise is under threat,” said the letter. “We have been strong supporters of you. In campaign after campaign we have put boots on the ground, gone door-to-door to get out the vote, run phone banks and raised money to secure this vision. Now this vision has come back to haunt us.”

Again, we fucking warned you.


AFL-CIO president Richard Trumka echoed those concerns on Thursday, telling reporters during a breakfast event that the administration and Congress made some serious blunders in drafting the legislation that must be fixed to quiet the growing union discontent. - :lol:


From labor’s perspective, arguably the biggest problem is that the law – when fully implemented – will create an incentive for employers to keep their workers’ hours below 30 hours a week.

The Affordable Care Act will eventually penalize firms employing 50 or more people that don’t offer health insurance – or that offer coverage below minimum standards. This is the so-called “employer mandate.” The White House this summer put that provision on hold until 2015 to give medium and large employers the opportunity to better prepare and plan for the changes and reporting requirements. But once that provision finally takes hold, union leaders say that companies will cut the hours of workers below 30 hours per week to get under the 50-worker threshold for providing health care coverage.

With salaries remaining relatively static during this tepid economic recovery, a cutback in hours would be tantamount to a substantial pay cut for many union and other workers who are struggling to make ends meet.

Yeah, we were all fucking racist for TELLING you this was going to happen.









I'd like to say; "I hate to tell you we told you so."

but


We Told You So!!!



What a GREAT opportunity for Repubs. Just think. Now that unions are mad at Obamacare, you Rethugs will be able to show the unions the Rethug plans for healthcare, and seeing as how I am sure they are much superior to the current plan, all those union members will now vote for Rethugs.

Oh happy days oh happy days.


OK.. Let me try again to see if people like you can understand simple arithmetic!
Obamacare counted 46 million people as "uninsured" as the reason to pass by just 6 YES votes ACA.
6 Votes that like you obviously don't understand simple arithmetic and if this is too complicated...GEEZ what do you think ACA is?

1) Nearly 18 million of the uninsured lived in households with annual incomes above $50,000 -- over half of them (9.7 million) in households with incomes that exceed $75,000 annually.
They don't want nor need health insurance as they pay less then $1,000 out of pocket per year!
CRISIS OF THE UNINSURED: 2009

Subtract from 46 million the 18 million and you get 28 million!

2) 14 million that say they are uninsured DON"T KNOW they are covered by Medicaid!
The Census DIDN"T calculate these below poverty level people could get coverage by Medicaid already! They just asked them
do you have health insurance and they said NO!... BUT all they need do is register!!!
http://coverageforall.org/pdf/BC-BS_Uninsured-America.pdf

Subtract from 28 million the 14 million covered by Medicaid leaves 14 million

3) 10 million counted in his "46 million" WERE NOT citizens!!!
Income, Poverty and Health Insurance Coverage in the United States: 2009 - Income & Wealth - Newsroom - U.S. Census Bureau
Subtract from 14 million the 10 million NOT citizens leaves 4 million!

So that leaves 4 million that REALLY NEED and WANT health insurance.

NOW do you think if the majority of the YES voters KNEW and understood that destruction of health care as we know it
was based on a phony number of 46 million and that in reality 4 million truly needed coverage they would have passed ACA?

NOT one of you have yet proved that all the 18 million people under 34 making over $50k want health insurance!
Not one of you have proved that 14 million people DID know they were covered by Medicaid!
NOT one of you have said you want 10 million non-citizens to be covered!

AND NOT ONE of you have agreed that $850 billion a year in wasted duplicate testing defensive medicine is wrong! WHY?
YET the lawyers that make $270 billion a year were never taxed 10% like tanning salons! WHY?
That $27 billion a year is all that is needed to provide a $5,000 a year premium for each and every one of the 4 million that
want and truly need health insurance! Why are almost all of you against taxing these lawyers like tanning salons are taxed?
 
Last month, leaders of three of the largest labor unions sent a scathing letter to Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid (D-NV) and House Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi (D-CA),
warning that if the problems with the insurance program are not addressed,
the new health care law will “shatter not only our hard-earned health benefits,
but destroy the foundation of the 40-hour work week that is the backbone of the American middle class.”

Why Organized Labor Is Organizing Against Obamacare | The Fiscal Times

So why the name "Affordable Care Act" if there are no jobs that can "afford care"???

the new health care law will “shatter not only our hard-earned health benefits, but destroy the foundation of the 40-hour work week that is the backbone of the American middle class.” -

when Cons said that we were fear mongers


“When you and the president sought our support for the Affordable Care Act, you pledged that if we liked the health plans we have now, we could keep them. Sadly, that promise is under threat,” said the letter. “We have been strong supporters of you. In campaign after campaign we have put boots on the ground, gone door-to-door to get out the vote, run phone banks and raised money to secure this vision. Now this vision has come back to haunt us.”

Again, we fucking warned you.


AFL-CIO president Richard Trumka echoed those concerns on Thursday, telling reporters during a breakfast event that the administration and Congress made some serious blunders in drafting the legislation that must be fixed to quiet the growing union discontent. - :lol:


From labor’s perspective, arguably the biggest problem is that the law – when fully implemented – will create an incentive for employers to keep their workers’ hours below 30 hours a week.

The Affordable Care Act will eventually penalize firms employing 50 or more people that don’t offer health insurance – or that offer coverage below minimum standards. This is the so-called “employer mandate.” The White House this summer put that provision on hold until 2015 to give medium and large employers the opportunity to better prepare and plan for the changes and reporting requirements. But once that provision finally takes hold, union leaders say that companies will cut the hours of workers below 30 hours per week to get under the 50-worker threshold for providing health care coverage.

With salaries remaining relatively static during this tepid economic recovery, a cutback in hours would be tantamount to a substantial pay cut for many union and other workers who are struggling to make ends meet.

Yeah, we were all fucking racist for TELLING you this was going to happen.









I'd like to say; "I hate to tell you we told you so."

but


We Told You So!!!



What a GREAT opportunity for Repubs. Just think. Now that unions are mad at Obamacare, you Rethugs will be able to show the unions the Rethug plans for healthcare, and seeing as how I am sure they are much superior to the current plan, all those union members will now vote for Rethugs.

Oh happy days oh happy days.

How silly

The unions will just remain exempt.

and really, what kind of baby turns to the government for health care?

grow up already
 
Last month, leaders of three of the largest labor unions sent a scathing letter to Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid (D-NV) and House Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi (D-CA),
warning that if the problems with the insurance program are not addressed,
the new health care law will “shatter not only our hard-earned health benefits,
but destroy the foundation of the 40-hour work week that is the backbone of the American middle class.”

Why Organized Labor Is Organizing Against Obamacare | The Fiscal Times

So why the name "Affordable Care Act" if there are no jobs that can "afford care"???

Just like anyone in the healthcare industry that voted for Obama. If you lose your jobs and benefits...tough shit. Maybe next time you will actually pay attention.
 
yOU WOULD HAVE TO TELL ME WHERE YOU LIVE, MYSTERY pUBTROLL. OOps. If you live in a red state you already know it lol...

Spick boy....LOL, I've never
hidden it ;)
Nebraska...the same State that finished number 2 in job creation.....

You poor little wet back.

Pure Scot and English, Pubtroll- well, put your locale in your sig fcs- SO- you think NE Pubs HAVEN'T delayed your exchange LOL...AND how are people going to like no federally funded care for your poor...you're quite a joker LOL...AND NOW the corn picking will end lol...

Poor franco, why won't you answer the question?
How is the ACA going to work?

Tell me how the Pubs have delayed the Exchanges?
 
If it's so good for us why are the democrats seeking and getting exemptions? Why do I get the feeling this was really just to screw over republicans?
 
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If it's so good for us why are the democrats seeking and getting exemptions? Why do I get the feeling this was really just to screw over republicans?

It is simply a step toward their true goal of Socialized everything........

Why do they want socialism if the first thing they do is ask for an exemption?

Are you sure that's what they want?
 
And suddenly the 'nuts are siding with big Labor, just so they can bash Obama again.

How utterly unsurprising.

You stupid fuck.
The Unions have figured out that our Half White President lied about this.
You are black, aren't you?
 
If big labor is waking up and learning, then yes I could be on their side to an extent.

But it would be more like they were meeting us part way......
 
In 1957 I was working 48 hours a week.

By 1958 I changed employer and it was 44 hours a week, by working six day shifts and five night shifts.

Then a couple years later it went to forty hours per week.

I saw nothing detrimental to my life style through those changed. In fact, I welcomed the reduced hours.

When I found that the reduced hours left me in a financial hole, I changed employer and fixed it.

I did that as an immigrant with limited language skills, so I have absolutely no sympathy for the cry babies who cry racism, demand reparations and blame all their self-imposed woes on slavery that was ended by a Republican President over 150 years ago.
 
In 1957 I was working 48 hours a week.

By 1958 I changed employer and it was 44 hours a week, by working six day shifts and five night shifts.

Then a couple years later it went to forty hours per week.

I saw nothing detrimental to my life style through those changed. In fact, I welcomed the reduced hours.

When I found that the reduced hours left me in a financial hole, I changed employer and fixed it.

I did that as an immigrant with limited language skills, so I have absolutely no sympathy for the cry babies who cry racism, demand reparations and blame all their self-imposed woes on slavery that was ended by a Republican President over 150 years ago.

The first part of your post i commend you on. The last part you tripped and fell down. Slaves werent freed then everything was fine. As an immigrant you must not be aware of the history of racial oppression in this country after slavery was outlawed.
 
In 1957 I was working 48 hours a week.

By 1958 I changed employer and it was 44 hours a week, by working six day shifts and five night shifts.

Then a couple years later it went to forty hours per week.

I saw nothing detrimental to my life style through those changed. In fact, I welcomed the reduced hours.

When I found that the reduced hours left me in a financial hole, I changed employer and fixed it.

I did that as an immigrant with limited language skills, so I have absolutely no sympathy for the cry babies who cry racism, demand reparations and blame all their self-imposed woes on slavery that was ended by a Republican President over 150 years ago.

The first part of your post i commend you on. The last part you tripped and fell down. Slaves werent freed then everything was fine. As an immigrant you must not be aware of the history of racial oppression in this country after slavery was outlawed.

So, are you saying that as an immigrant I have no knowledge of hate and discrimination?

Tell me when was the last time those crybabies I referred to earlier were subjected to signs at windows at potential employers saying that "NO blacks need apply". I saw signs saying "No Hungarians need apply", because when the Revolution of 1956 opened the doors of prisons to free political prisoners, they also let free killers, murderers and rapists, who wasted no time to find refuge in a free country, and even more so, wasted no time to resort to their criminal ways, thereby ruining chances of those of us who just wanted to work, learn English and be part of our new country.

None of the reparation cry babies had to face what I faced. They all had the protection and the artificial and undeserved advancement of affirmative action.

I don't give a damn about what the grandparents of today's cry babies had to face. There is a good chance that if they were here today, they would be ashamed of childish and petulant pieces of crap like Al Sharpton, Jesse Jackson and Cornell West.

Not to mention the cry babies on this board.
 
In 1957 I was working 48 hours a week.

By 1958 I changed employer and it was 44 hours a week, by working six day shifts and five night shifts.

Then a couple years later it went to forty hours per week.

I saw nothing detrimental to my life style through those changed. In fact, I welcomed the reduced hours.

When I found that the reduced hours left me in a financial hole, I changed employer and fixed it.

I did that as an immigrant with limited language skills, so I have absolutely no sympathy for the cry babies who cry racism, demand reparations and blame all their self-imposed woes on slavery that was ended by a Republican President over 150 years ago.

The first part of your post i commend you on. The last part you tripped and fell down. Slaves werent freed then everything was fine. As an immigrant you must not be aware of the history of racial oppression in this country after slavery was outlawed.

So, are you saying that as an immigrant I have no knowledge of hate and discrimination?

Tell me when was the last time those crybabies I referred to earlier were subjected to signs at windows at potential employers saying that "NO blacks need apply". I saw signs saying "No Hungarians need apply", because when the Revolution of 1956 opened the doors of prisons to free political prisoners, they also let free killers, murderers and rapists, who wasted no time to find refuge in a free country, and even more so, wasted no time to resort to their criminal ways, thereby ruining chances of those of us who just wanted to work, learn English and be part of our new country.

None of the reparation cry babies had to face what I faced. They all had the protection and the artificial and undeserved advancement of affirmative action.

I don't give a damn about what the grandparents of today's cry babies had to face. There is a good chance that if they were here today, they would be ashamed of childish and petulant pieces of crap like Al Sharpton, Jesse Jackson and Cornell West.

Not to mention the cry babies on this board.

I'm saying you dont know what you are talking about in regards to the conditions here in this country towards Blacks. What you experienced is nothing compared to what they experienced. All you had to do was change your name and learn to speak without an accent. When you turn Black let me know and we can compare notes on what its like.
 
If it's so good for us why are the democrats seeking and getting exemptions? Why do I get the feeling this was really just to screw over republicans?

It is simply a step toward their true goal of Socialized everything........

Why do they want socialism if the first thing they do is ask for an exemption?

Are you sure that's what they want?

Democrats are supposedly for the communal good.. but they ask for more and more and more, things such as minimum wage and entitlements. However, when their greed backfires on them, they go running for the hills. But they will never give up on their goal of wealth equality.
 
If big labor is waking up and learning, then yes I could be on their side to an extent.

But it would be more like they were meeting us part way......

You shouldn't have pity on those who are given rope and are continually hanging themselves with it. That's how I perceive labor unions like the AFL-CIO.
 

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