Unpatriotic Dems In Virginia Erases Confederate Holiday

[rightwinger]

Should we also ban the USA flag? The USA had slavery for 89 years.

The USA also fought a war to end it. What's your point?

The USA still had slavery all during the Civil War. And when the war was over, and all the Confederate held slaves were free...The US still had slavery.
But the haters are ignorant of history.

Now tell us about the 13th Amendment abolishing slavery within months of the end of the Civil War

Then say the war wasn’t about slavery in

The ratification of the 13th Amendment freed the last of the remaining slaves that were still held in the US states. Confederate slaves were already free.

They were free by Executive Order only.

The 13th amendment freed them once and for all

 

[rightwinger]

Should we also ban the USA flag? The USA had slavery for 89 years.

The USA also fought a war to end it. What's your point?

The USA still had slavery all during the Civil War. And when the war was over, and all the Confederate held slaves were free...The US still had slavery.
But the haters are ignorant of history.

The USA had slavery.

The USA fought a war to end slavery.

The confederate traitors fought a war to keep slavery.

In 1865, slavery was officially abolished throughout the US.

That is some of the history you seem ignorant of in your quest to nobalize the Confederacy.

So according to you... The USA faught a war to end slavery. But the USA still had their own slavery.

Political reality of the war. Those slaves you talk about numbered in the thousands. The slaves if the Confederacy numbered in the millions. And they fought a war to keep them

 

[Scamp]

Nazi Germany is not remembered for it's forced labor.


Vastly different situations had vastly different outcomes. No reasonable person is surprised by that.


Superbrother's position is utterly senseless.

Fool do you not realize what was being done to these folks. They were beaten, raped, maimed, castrated, branded, etc., the atrocities that was done to slaves was in alot of ways no different than what was done to Jewish folks in the Holocaust.

Sure, "no different".

That is why the Jewish minority is a vibrant and dynamic part of the German culture, just like Blacks here in America.

There are still Jewish folks in Germany.
....e.

DUde. They were very nearly wiped out. The blacks were not. YOur claiming they are the same, is you being dishonest.


YOur position is absurd. That you are holding to it, is just you demonstrating that you are completely dishonest.

Dude do you realize how many blacks died on the voyage to America, do you realize what was done to them once they were here. Your position is absurd, stop trying to water down what was done and open your fucking eyes.

Not a single slave ever came here from Africa on a Confederate ship. It was US ships and European ships who brought slaves here.

 

[Coyote]

Fool do you not realize what was being done to these folks. They were beaten, raped, maimed, castrated, branded, etc., the atrocities that was done to slaves was in alot of ways no different than what was done to Jewish folks in the Holocaust.

Sure, "no different".

That is why the Jewish minority is a vibrant and dynamic part of the German culture, just like Blacks here in America.

There are still Jewish folks in Germany.
....e.

DUde. They were very nearly wiped out. The blacks were not. YOur claiming they are the same, is you being dishonest.


YOur position is absurd. That you are holding to it, is just you demonstrating that you are completely dishonest.

Dude do you realize how many blacks died on the voyage to America, do you realize what was done to them once they were here. Your position is absurd, stop trying to water down what was done and open your fucking eyes.

Not a single slave ever came here from Africa on a Confederate ship. It was US ships and European ships who brought slaves here.

Ok. Moron might be applicable but maybe you are just yanking chains.

The mid Atlantic slave trade became illegal in 1808. The Confederacy did not exist then.

It is also entirely irrelevant to the issue of slavery in the Confederacy.

So I think you are just winding us up.

 

[Superbadbrutha]

Fool do you not realize what was being done to these folks. They were beaten, raped, maimed, castrated, branded, etc., the atrocities that was done to slaves was in alot of ways no different than what was done to Jewish folks in the Holocaust.

Sure, "no different".

That is why the Jewish minority is a vibrant and dynamic part of the German culture, just like Blacks here in America.

There are still Jewish folks in Germany.
....e.

DUde. They were very nearly wiped out. The blacks were not. YOur claiming they are the same, is you being dishonest.


YOur position is absurd. That you are holding to it, is just you demonstrating that you are completely dishonest.

Dude do you realize how many blacks died on the voyage to America, do you realize what was done to them once they were here. Your position is absurd, stop trying to water down what was done and open your fucking eyes.

Not a single slave ever came here from Africa on a Confederate ship. It was US ships and European ships who brought slaves here.

Oh that changes everything Scamp, those God fearing, kind hearted, Confederates took the slaves in and treated them like royalty.

 

[Bush92]

"“Who controls the past’, ran the Party slogan, ‘controls the future: who controls the present controls the past.”
-George Orwell 1984

 

[Scamp]

See what happens when you erase history. Now days we have uneducated people who dont even know there was slavery in the North. And people who dont even know that the USA had slavery during the Civil War.

 

[Pogo]

Sure, "no different".

That is why the Jewish minority is a vibrant and dynamic part of the German culture, just like Blacks here in America.

There are still Jewish folks in Germany.
....e.

DUde. They were very nearly wiped out. The blacks were not. YOur claiming they are the same, is you being dishonest.


YOur position is absurd. That you are holding to it, is just you demonstrating that you are completely dishonest.

Dude do you realize how many blacks died on the voyage to America, do you realize what was done to them once they were here. Your position is absurd, stop trying to water down what was done and open your fucking eyes.

Not a single slave ever came here from Africa on a Confederate ship. It was US ships and European ships who brought slaves here.

Ok. Moron might be applicable but maybe you are just yanking chains.

The mid Atlantic slave trade became illegal in 1808. The Confederacy did not exist then.

It is also entirely irrelevant to the issue of slavery in the Confederacy.

So I think you are just winding us up.

He's desperately hiding behind his own strawman that the whole question is about "Slavery" instead of the Confederacy. While sporting a Confederate Admiral in his avatar.

He's doing that because he doesn't have the cojones, or the intelligence, or both, to debate the Confederacy and the Lost Cause, so he's gonna go "LA LA LA" and pretend it was never there, and this entire thread isn't about a Confederate holiday. So he brings up slaver ships, and George Washington, and no doubt the friggin' Magna Carta is on the back burner, all stuff that has zero to do with the Confederacy, and any time you challenge him on what the relevance is he runs away.

What a fraud.

 

[Pogo]

"“Who controls the past’, ran the Party slogan, ‘controls the future: who controls the present controls the past.”
-George Orwell 1984

Very much true and on the point.

That's why the UDC ran around erecting all these statues and monuments, for exactly that purpose --- to control the Past.

 

[Scamp]

Sure, "no different".

That is why the Jewish minority is a vibrant and dynamic part of the German culture, just like Blacks here in America.

There are still Jewish folks in Germany.
....e.

DUde. They were very nearly wiped out. The blacks were not. YOur claiming they are the same, is you being dishonest.


YOur position is absurd. That you are holding to it, is just you demonstrating that you are completely dishonest.

Dude do you realize how many blacks died on the voyage to America, do you realize what was done to them once they were here. Your position is absurd, stop trying to water down what was done and open your fucking eyes.

Not a single slave ever came here from Africa on a Confederate ship. It was US ships and European ships who brought slaves here.

Oh that changes everything Scamp, those God fearing, kind hearted, Confederates took the slaves in and treated them like royalty.

Well they did give them free medical, housing, and food. And the North was busy passing anti-black immigration laws to keep them the Hell out.

 

[Pogo]

Fool do you not realize what was being done to these folks. They were beaten, raped, maimed, castrated, branded, etc., the atrocities that was done to slaves was in alot of ways no different than what was done to Jewish folks in the Holocaust.

Sure, "no different".

That is why the Jewish minority is a vibrant and dynamic part of the German culture, just like Blacks here in America.

There are still Jewish folks in Germany.
....e.

DUde. They were very nearly wiped out. The blacks were not. YOur claiming they are the same, is you being dishonest.


YOur position is absurd. That you are holding to it, is just you demonstrating that you are completely dishonest.

Dude do you realize how many blacks died on the voyage to America, do you realize what was done to them once they were here. Your position is absurd, stop trying to water down what was done and open your fucking eyes.

Not a single slave ever came here from Africa on a Confederate ship. It was US ships and European ships who brought slaves here.

That's absolutely fascinating.

What's it got to do in any way with this thread, or a Confederate holiday, or the Lost Cause Cult? Or George Freaking Washington?

 

[Bush92]

"“Who controls the past’, ran the Party slogan, ‘controls the future: who controls the present controls the past.”
-George Orwell 1984

Very much true and on the point.

That's why the UDC ran around erecting all these statues and monuments, for exactly that purpose --- to control the Past.

Looks like Virginia Democrsts are like the Taliban.
The man who helped blow up the Bamiyan Buddhas

 

[Bush92]

"“Who controls the past’, ran the Party slogan, ‘controls the future: who controls the present controls the past.”
-George Orwell 1984

Very much true and on the point.

That's why the UDC ran around erecting all these statues and monuments, for exactly that purpose --- to control the Past.

Robert E. Lee and Stonewall Jackson stood by their states rights.

 

[Pogo]

There are still Jewish folks in Germany.
....e.

DUde. They were very nearly wiped out. The blacks were not. YOur claiming they are the same, is you being dishonest.


YOur position is absurd. That you are holding to it, is just you demonstrating that you are completely dishonest.

Dude do you realize how many blacks died on the voyage to America, do you realize what was done to them once they were here. Your position is absurd, stop trying to water down what was done and open your fucking eyes.

Not a single slave ever came here from Africa on a Confederate ship. It was US ships and European ships who brought slaves here.

Oh that changes everything Scamp, those God fearing, kind hearted, Confederates took the slaves in and treated them like royalty.

Well they did give them free medical, housing, and food. And the North was busy passing anti-black immigration laws to keep them the Hell out.

They HAD TO give them food, shelter and medical. They were using their LABOR, Dumbass.

How in the FUCK are you going to continue to get labor out of a slave you don't feed??

FUCK outta here.

 

[Superbadbrutha]

There are still Jewish folks in Germany.
....e.

DUde. They were very nearly wiped out. The blacks were not. YOur claiming they are the same, is you being dishonest.


YOur position is absurd. That you are holding to it, is just you demonstrating that you are completely dishonest.

Dude do you realize how many blacks died on the voyage to America, do you realize what was done to them once they were here. Your position is absurd, stop trying to water down what was done and open your fucking eyes.

Not a single slave ever came here from Africa on a Confederate ship. It was US ships and European ships who brought slaves here.

Oh that changes everything Scamp, those God fearing, kind hearted, Confederates took the slaves in and treated them like royalty.

Well they did give them free medical, housing, and food.

The family dog was treated better than many of the slaves.

And the North was busy passing anti-black immigration laws to keep them the Hell out.

I guess that is why they were escaping to the North.

 

[Pogo]

"“Who controls the past’, ran the Party slogan, ‘controls the future: who controls the present controls the past.”
-George Orwell 1984

Very much true and on the point.

That's why the UDC ran around erecting all these statues and monuments, for exactly that purpose --- to control the Past.

Robert E. Lee and Stonewall Jackson stood by their states rights.

Yep. And Lee specifically said not to run around putting up statues. Way to 'honor' the guy huh.

 

[Scamp]

How dare the Confederacy use a perfectly legal enterprise backed by the US Supreme Court and a recent act of the US Congress to make billions of dollars. It's called capitalism and they were better at it than the Yankees.

 

[Scamp]

Why didnt the Union free their slaves before they invaded the South?

 

[Bush92]

"“Who controls the past’, ran the Party slogan, ‘controls the future: who controls the present controls the past.”
-George Orwell 1984

Very much true and on the point.

That's why the UDC ran around erecting all these statues and monuments, for exactly that purpose --- to control the Past.

Robert E. Lee and Stonewall Jackson stood by their states rights.

Yep. And Lee specifically said not to run around putting up statues. Way to 'honor' the guy huh.

Lee said he could not "raise a sword against his native Virginia." Now Virginia communist party wants to eliminate him from history. Stalinist.

 

[Bush92]

How dare the Confederacy use a perfectly legal enterprise backed by the US Supreme Court and a recent act of the US Congress to make billions of dollars. It's called capitalism and they were better at it than the Yankees.

Northerners like that sonofabitch Stanton wanted to steal the South's wealth.