US Congress to Split Iraq Into Three States: Mission Accomplished?

[SAYIT]

Apparently the "Oden Yinon Plan" is a wholly fabricated figment of some overactive Nazi imagination intended for weak, hateful minds. See if you can find a direct link to the actual plan or to Yinon for that matter.

That'll gimme something to do when I get home to my laptop

The story may be a Shahak fabrication that was picked up (without substantiation) by some Nazi websites and kicked back and forth to give it the aura of credibility. However none of the Nazi websites that carry this BS nor the OP bothered to establish its validity. SURPRISE!
Neither the Yinon article nor Obed Yinon seem to have ever existed.

That's it? Your response to requests for links to the actual "Yinon Report" and its author is to laugh? You are a fat, pathetic old Nazi, GP, and there's just no getting around that fact.

 

[SAYIT]

Of course, Shahak never uttered that opinion but rather it was a figment of Whitney's imagination. Somehow these fully cooked from thin air conspiracy theories are always fueled by the mindless hate of rabid bigots like ... you, GP

Shahak provided the translation of Oded Yinon's 1982 piece, "A Strategy for Israel in the 1980s" If you could learn to control your irrational hatred for those of us opposed to apartheid, perhaps you wouldn't make a complete fool of your so often?
http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/pdf/The Zionist Plan for the Middle East.pdf

Neither Shahak nor infoclearinghouse nor Counterpunch nor any of the other Nazi websites that carry that BS offer either an actual credit to the alleged "Yinon Report" nor to Obed Yinon and his connection to the Jerusalem Post also appears to be fabricated (perhaps to create false credibility). You've been snagged posting baseless Nazi BS once again, GP, proving once again you are, at best, a slimy Nazi dirtball.

 

[Stephanie]

anyone Remember when Bush was in office how the left wailed we didn't need to be poking our noses into these other countries. How we can't be the policeman of the world, blaa blaa blaa?

Now look how excited they are over poking their noses into every gawddamn country in the Middle east. and has caused much upheaval in many many people lives over there?

 

[georgephillip]

Apparently the "Oden Yinon Plan" is a wholly fabricated figment of some overactive Nazi imagination intended for weak, hateful minds. See if you can find a direct link to the actual plan or to Yinon for that matter.

Exactly, Golda:
"Oded Yinon was a participant or observer in the following events:

February 1982: Article in Israeli Journal Says Israel Should Exploit Internal Tensions of Arab States[/paste:font]

"The winter issue of Kivunim, a 'A Journal for Judaism and Zionism,' publishes 'A Strategy for Israel in the Nineteen Eighties' by Oded Yinon. The paper, published in Hebrew, rejects the idea that Israel should carry through with the Camp David accords and seek peace. Instead, Yinon suggests that the Arab States should be destroyed from within by exploiting their internal religious and ethnic tensions: 'Lebanon’s total dissolution into five provinces serves as a precedent for the entire Arab world including Egypt, Syria, Iraq, and the Arabian peninsula and is already following that track. The dissolution of Syria and Iraq later on into ethnically or religiously unique areas such as in Lebanon, is Israel’s primary target on the Eastern front in the long run, while the dissolution of the military power of those states serves as the primary short term target. Syria will fall apart, in accordance with its ethnic and religious structure, into several states such as in present day Lebanon.'”
Oded Yinon

 

[SAYIT]

Oops. It seems George P has disappeared.
I'm shocked I tell you ... shocked!
Hopefully he is off trying to substantiate the BS he's posted here and failing that, planning to return to offer his profound apologies for foisting that crap on this honorable board.

So you are claiming that an article (to which neither you nor Counterpunch provide a link) by an Israeli journalist so obscure he doesn't have a webpage or search engine recognition is the source of Islamic State's creation? Really?
"Can you mindless Jew-haters be any more ridiculous?

"The plan operates on two essential premises. To survive, Israel must 1) become an imperial regional power, and 2) must effect the division of the whole area into small states by the dissolution of all existing Arab states. Small here will depend on the ethnic or sectarian composition of each state. Consequently, the Zionist hope is that sectarian-based states become Israel's satellites and, ironically, its source of moral legitimation."
http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/pdf/The Zionist Plan for the Middle East.pdf

That link is to an infoclearinghouse article by Shahak. Did you find the actual Yinon article he claims to be translating? How about some substantiation that Yinon actually exists?

 

[SAYIT]

Of course, Shahak never uttered that opinion but rather it was a figment of Whitney's imagination. Somehow these fully cooked from thin air conspiracy theories are always fueled by the mindless hate of rabid bigots like ... you, GP

Shahak provided the translation of Oded Yinon's 1982 piece, "A Strategy for Israel in the 1980s" If you could learn to control your irrational hatred for those of us opposed to apartheid, perhaps you wouldn't make a complete fool of your so often?
http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/pdf/The Zionist Plan for the Middle East.pdf

Yeah ... that's what you're doing.
Instead of digging your hole deeper, how about posting a link to the actual Yinon article (not what infoclearinghouse claims to be a Shahak translation) and failing that, how about a link which establishes the actual existence of the alleged Jerusalem Post journalist?

 

[rdean]

Since America's Kenyan Emperor easily bypasses the (former) U.S. Constitution who's to say He might have even a little difficulty in aborting that of any other country?

Kenyan Emperor? Fu Of Tur

 

[SAYIT]

Apparently the "Oden Yinon Plan" is a wholly fabricated figment of some overactive Nazi imagination intended for weak, hateful minds. See if you can find a direct link to the actual plan or to Yinon for that matter.

Exactly, Golda:
"Oded Yinon was a participant or observer in the following events:

February 1982: Article in Israeli Journal Says Israel Should Exploit Internal Tensions of Arab States[/paste:font]

"The winter issue of Kivunim, a 'A Journal for Judaism and Zionism,' publishes 'A Strategy for Israel in the Nineteen Eighties' by Oded Yinon. The paper, published in Hebrew, rejects the idea that Israel should carry through with the Camp David accords and seek peace. Instead, Yinon suggests that the Arab States should be destroyed from within by exploiting their internal religious and ethnic tensions: 'Lebanon’s total dissolution into five provinces serves as a precedent for the entire Arab world including Egypt, Syria, Iraq, and the Arabian peninsula and is already following that track. The dissolution of Syria and Iraq later on into ethnically or religiously unique areas such as in Lebanon, is Israel’s primary target on the Eastern front in the long run, while the dissolution of the military power of those states serves as the primary short term target. Syria will fall apart, in accordance with its ethnic and religious structure, into several states such as in present day Lebanon.'”
Oded Yinon

Sorry GP ... you missed again. There is neither a link to the Yinon article nor to the existence of Oded Yinon at that blogsite but keep digging.

 

[rdean]

Not sure how Congress can vote to do that, exactly. It sounds like the writer doesn't understand how government works.

Iraqis think there s a US plot to break up the country - Business Insider

Iraqi leaders are claiming a Republican-backed US law is part of a plot to break up the country

A Republican proposal to directly arm Sunni tribes and the Kurds in Iraq in the fight against ISIS without oversight from the Iraqi central government has raised fears and anger in Baghdad, where officials fear the US may be aiming to break the country apart.

Texas Republican Congressman Mac Thornberry's proposal to directly arm various nonstate forces in the fight against ISIS has inspired a swirl of conspiracy theories and rumors among Iran's Shiite majority, some of whom believe that the US wants to partition Iraq into three competing states, Tim Arango writes for The New York Times.
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So look into it a little more and you find out it's some nutty GOP plan. And here right wingers are trying to blame it on Obama, again.

 

[georgephillip]

That link is to an infoclearinghouse article by Shahak. Did you find the actual Yinon article he claims to be translating? How about some substantiation that Yinon actually exists?

So...how many pages of Shahak's translation did you actually read, Golda?
http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/pdf/The Zionist Plan for the Middle East.pdf
Enough to figure out Yinon's first name?
What's the matter, Golda, having trouble with today's Zionist history lesson?

 

[SAYIT]

That link is to an infoclearinghouse article by Shahak. Did you find the actual Yinon article he claims to be translating? How about some substantiation that Yinon actually exists?

So...how many pages of Shahak's translation did you actually read, Golda?
http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/pdf/The Zionist Plan for the Middle East.pdf
Enough to figure out Yinon's first name?
What's the matter, Golda, having trouble with today's Zionist history lesson?

That's it? I make a serious and reasonable request that you provide a link to the alleged Yinon article or even just a link to the existence of its author - because your sources provide neither - and you call it "history" and punt? I accept that as your capitulation in the matter but not as your apology for foisting your Nazi shit on this board again ... not that you have ever exhibited the integrity required to admit you're a lying Nazi slug, Princess.

 

[whitehall]

The U.N. authorized Harry Truman's executive order that placed American Troops in harms way in Korea and about 50,000 Americans were killed during the three years that American Troops were abandoned by typical democrat policies. The U.N. apparently approved of LBJ's convoluted rules in Vietnam and we lost about 50,000 American Troops during democrat and U.N. confused policies. The U.N. apparently authorized Bill Clinton to use the greatest technological weapons in the world to bomb a defenseless country into the stone age to avoid scrutiny into the president's peculiar sexual habits. The U.N. sanctioned George Bush's adventure in Iraq but so did Congress for a change but surprise surprise the 36% of democrats who authorized the mission became traitors and un-authorized their authorization without permission from their constituents. So what's the common denominator in late 20th century and 21's century American Military missions that nobody is talking about? What the hell is the U.N. about and why do we care?

 

[georgephillip]

Texas Republican Congressman Mac Thornberry's proposal to directly arm various nonstate forces in the fight against ISIS has inspired a swirl of conspiracy theories and rumors among Iran's Shiite majority, some of whom believe that the US wants to partition Iraq into three competing states, Tim Arango writes for The New York Times

It's a plan some/most Republicans AND Democrats have been aware of for a decade, at least. Wesley Clark provided a pretty good clue in his 2003 book.
"In Clark's book, Winning Modern Wars, published in 2003, he describes his conversation with a military officer in the Pentagon shortly after 9/11 regarding a plan to attack seven Middle Eastern countries in five years: 'As I went back through the Pentagon in November 2001, one of the senior military staff officers had time for a chat. Yes, we were still on track for going against Iraq, he said. But there was more. This was being discussed as part of a five-year campaign plan, he said, and there were a total of seven countries, beginning with Iraq, then Syria, Lebanon, Libya, Somalia, Sudan and finishing off Iran."
Wesley Clark - Wikipedia the free encyclopedia

 

[georgephillip]

That's it? I make a serious and reasonable request that you provide a link to the alleged Yinon article or even just a link to the existence of its author - because your sources provide neither - and you call it "history" and punt? I accept that as your capitulation in the matter but not as your apology for foisting your Nazi shit on this board again ... not that you have ever exhibited the integrity required to admit you're a lying Nazi slug, Princess.

How many times do you require the same link, Golda?
Oded Yinon

 

[SAYIT]

Texas Republican Congressman Mac Thornberry's proposal to directly arm various nonstate forces in the fight against ISIS has inspired a swirl of conspiracy theories and rumors among Iran's Shiite majority, some of whom believe that the US wants to partition Iraq into three competing states, Tim Arango writes for The New York Times

It's a plan some/most Republicans AND Democrats have been aware of for a decade, at least. Wesley Clark provided a pretty good clue in his 2003 book.
"In Clark's book, Winning Modern Wars, published in 2003, he describes his conversation with a military officer in the Pentagon shortly after 9/11 regarding a plan to attack seven Middle Eastern countries in five years: 'As I went back through the Pentagon in November 2001, one of the senior military staff officers had time for a chat. Yes, we were still on track for going against Iraq, he said. But there was more. This was being discussed as part of a five-year campaign plan, he said, and there were a total of seven countries, beginning with Iraq, then Syria, Lebanon, Libya, Somalia, Sudan and finishing off Iran."
Wesley Clark - Wikipedia the free encyclopedia

Wow! Look how easily you found a link to Clark's story yet fully 40 hours after posting that BS about "the Yinon Plan" you continue to fail miserably to find the same for either his plan or the existence of Yinon himself. Perhaps it's time to cut your loss here, Princess.

 

[georgephillip]

orry GP ... you missed again. There is neither a link to the Yinon article nor to the existence of Oded Yinon at that blogsite but keep digging.

I'm sorry you're too lazy to read all of the links I post, but I'm not really surprised a kosher squeal like you is easily confused.
"A Strategy for Israel in the Nineteen Eighties by Oded Yinon This essay originally appeared in Hebrew in KIVUNIM (Directions), A Journal for Judaism and Zionism; Issue No, 14--Winter, 5742, February 1982, Editor: Yoram Beck. Editorial Committee: Eli Eyal, Yoram Beck, Amnon Hadari, Yohanan Manor, Elieser Schweid. Published by the Department of Publicity/The World Zionist Organization, Jerusalem. 1 At the outset of the nineteen eighties the State of Israel is in need of a new perspective as to its place, its aims and national targets, at home and abroad.

"This need has become even more vital due to a number of central processes which the country, the region and the world are undergoing. We are living today in the early stages of a new epoch in human history which is not at all similar to its predecessor, and its characteristics are totally different from what we have hitherto known.

"That is why we need an understanding of the central processes which typify this historical epoch on the one hand, and on the other hand we need a world outlook and an operational strategy in accordance with the new conditions. The existence, prosperity and steadfastness of the Jewish state will depend upon its ability to adopt a..."
http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/pdf/The Zionist Plan for the Middle East.pdf

 

[SAYIT]

That's it? I make a serious and reasonable request that you provide a link to the alleged Yinon article or even just a link to the existence of its author - because your sources provide neither - and you call it "history" and punt? I accept that as your capitulation in the matter but not as your apology for foisting your Nazi shit on this board again ... not that you have ever exhibited the integrity required to admit you're a lying Nazi slug, Princess.

How many times do you require the same link, Golda?
Oded Yinon

That is not a link to Oded Yinon, Princess, but rather to that blogsite's use of the name. Your sources claim he was a high-ranking Israeli official and a Jerusalem post journalist yet there is no record of his existence or to the alleged plan you and they claim he authored. Keep digging.

 

[georgephillip]

Wow! Look how easily you found a link to Clark's story yet fully 40 hours after posting that BS about "the Yinon Plan" you continue to fail miserably to find the same for either his plan or the existence of Yinon himself. Perhaps it's time to cut your loss here, Princess.

Can you find page 23, Golda?
"The Western front, which on the surface appears more problematic, is in fact less complicated than the Eastern front, in which most of the events that make the headlines have been taking place recently.

"Lebanon's total dissolution into five provinces serves as a precendent for the entire Arab world including Egypt, Syria, Iraq and the Arabian peninsula and is already following that track.

"The dissolution of Syria and Iraq later on into ethnically or religiously unqiue areas such as in Lebanon, is Israel's primary target on the Eastern front in the long run, while the dissolution of the military power of those states serves as the primary short term target.

"Syria will fall apart, in accordance with its ethnic and religious structure, into several states such as in present day Lebanon, so that there will be a Shi'ite Alawi state along its coast, a Sunni state in the Aleppo area, another Sunni state in Damascus hostile to its northern neighbor, and the Druzes who will set up a state, maybe even in our Golan, and certainly in the Hauran and in northern Jordan. This state of affairs will be the guarantee for peace and security in the area in the long run, and that aim is already within our reach today."
http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/pdf/The Zionist Plan for the Middle East.pdf

 

[SAYIT]

orry GP ... you missed again. There is neither a link to the Yinon article nor to the existence of Oded Yinon at that blogsite but keep digging.

I'm sorry you're too lazy to read all of the links I post, but I'm not really surprised a kosher squeal like you is easily confused.
"A Strategy for Israel in the Nineteen Eighties by Oded Yinon This essay originally appeared in Hebrew in KIVUNIM (Directions), A Journal for Judaism and Zionism; Issue No, 14--Winter, 5742, February 1982, Editor: Yoram Beck. Editorial Committee: Eli Eyal, Yoram Beck, Amnon Hadari, Yohanan Manor, Elieser Schweid. Published by the Department of Publicity/The World Zionist Organization, Jerusalem. 1 At the outset of the nineteen eighties the State of Israel is in need of a new perspective as to its place, its aims and national targets, at home and abroad.

"This need has become even more vital due to a number of central processes which the country, the region and the world are undergoing. We are living today in the early stages of a new epoch in human history which is not at all similar to its predecessor, and its characteristics are totally different from what we have hitherto known.

"That is why we need an understanding of the central processes which typify this historical epoch on the one hand, and on the other hand we need a world outlook and an operational strategy in accordance with the new conditions. The existence, prosperity and steadfastness of the Jewish state will depend upon its ability to adopt a..."
http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/pdf/The Zionist Plan for the Middle East.pdf

Nope. The infoclearinghouse article claims that to be the case but provides no link to either the article or the alleged author (and there is none to be found anywhere). In other words, the story was likely fabricated by hateful Nazi slugs just to provide fuel for hateful Nazi slugs like ... you.

 

[georgephillip]

That's it? I make a serious and reasonable request that you provide a link to the alleged Yinon article or even just a link to the existence of its author - because your sources provide neither - and you call it "history" and punt? I accept that as your capitulation in the matter but not as your apology for foisting your Nazi shit on this board again ... not that you have ever exhibited the integrity required to admit you're a lying Nazi slug, Princess.

How many times do you require the same link, Golda?
Oded Yinon

That is not a link to Oded Yinon, Princess, but rather to that blogsite's use of the name. Your sources claim he was a high-ranking Israeli official and a Jerusalem post journalist yet there is no record of his existence or to the alleged plan you and they claim he authored. Keep digging.