Very simply, why I cannot stand Donald Trump

[bripat9643]

A strong middle class and Social Security are mutally exclusive. Social Security looted the middle class and made it dependent on government handouts.

You would prefer the elderly and infirmed live in desperate poverty?

The elderly are the wealthies quintile of Americans.

Because they got pensions and didn’t pay $100k for college

Whatever reason you name, the fact is the elderly are not in dire financial straights.

Thanks to Social Security, ,edicare and individual savings. Conservatives have a nasty tendency to wreck pensions.

No, it isn't thanks to Social Security and Medicare. You partially hit on the reason: individual savings.

 

[Nosmo King]

The morality that calls for sequestering others based on their individual and lawful feelings and attitudes is in fact immoral when viewed through the lens of the Golden Rule.

And the intentions of those demanding a special prosecutor as well

False equivalence. Crimes must be investigated and tried.

 

[Ridgerunner]

Conservatives have a nasty tendency to wreck pensions.

What do you base this assertation on?

 

[EvilCat Breath]

Imposing morality means the loss of freedom. Lack of morality means governance without empathy. Morality is a virtue. One each citizen should consider in their daily interactions with others and how they want their government to interact with its citizens.

And it is why the left chose to use the term "impose" when dispensing with the morality of the day, there was no law forcing morality on us just Americans shunning those they knew were immoral and the left taking up the cause of the shunned by denouncing their morals...so is your answer a yes or no? is there any benefit to our culture from turning our backs on public morality?...btw, trying to teach morals to those being shunned is where the phrase "don't impose your morality on me" came from.

When public morality strays from the kernel of moral behavior, treat others as you would be treated, there are some who would exploit that breach by actually imposing an immoral point of view. I cite marriage equality as such an example. Treat others as you would be treated suggests the private lives of others are out of bounds so long as those others are committing no crimes. The morality that calls for sequestering others based on their individual and lawful feelings and attitudes is in fact immoral when viewed through the lens of the Golden Rule.

So-called "gay marriage" is the opposite of morality.

Based on what? Treat others as you would be treated?

Treat others as they would treat you. Only do it first.

 

[Nosmo King]

Imposing morality means the loss of freedom. Lack of morality means governance without empathy. Morality is a virtue. One each citizen should consider in their daily interactions with others and how they want their government to interact with its citizens.

And it is why the left chose to use the term "impose" when dispensing with the morality of the day, there was no law forcing morality on us just Americans shunning those they knew were immoral and the left taking up the cause of the shunned by denouncing their morals...so is your answer a yes or no? is there any benefit to our culture from turning our backs on public morality?...btw, trying to teach morals to those being shunned is where the phrase "don't impose your morality on me" came from.

When public morality strays from the kernel of moral behavior, treat others as you would be treated, there are some who would exploit that breach by actually imposing an immoral point of view. I cite marriage equality as such an example. Treat others as you would be treated suggests the private lives of others are out of bounds so long as those others are committing no crimes. The morality that calls for sequestering others based on their individual and lawful feelings and attitudes is in fact immoral when viewed through the lens of the Golden Rule.

So-called "gay marriage" is the opposite of morality.

Based on what? Treat others as you would be treated?

I would treat everybody the same with a law that says marriage is a union between a man and a woman.

Marriage is contract law. So long as both parties in the contract are law abiding, and are not currently related by blood, there is no moral basis to exclude them from access to contractual,agreements.

 

[Frankeneinstein]

Well,here is a left winger giving a full throated defense of the Golden Rule. I wonder where my counterparts on the Right are?

No your not, you are making an unfounded accusation and pretending the left has not been the ones rejecting public morality...You are not defending the golden rule as much as mocking it...and for political purposes as well

 

[Nosmo King]

Imposing morality means the loss of freedom. Lack of morality means governance without empathy. Morality is a virtue. One each citizen should consider in their daily interactions with others and how they want their government to interact with its citizens.

And it is why the left chose to use the term "impose" when dispensing with the morality of the day, there was no law forcing morality on us just Americans shunning those they knew were immoral and the left taking up the cause of the shunned by denouncing their morals...so is your answer a yes or no? is there any benefit to our culture from turning our backs on public morality?...btw, trying to teach morals to those being shunned is where the phrase "don't impose your morality on me" came from.

When public morality strays from the kernel of moral behavior, treat others as you would be treated, there are some who would exploit that breach by actually imposing an immoral point of view. I cite marriage equality as such an example. Treat others as you would be treated suggests the private lives of others are out of bounds so long as those others are committing no crimes. The morality that calls for sequestering others based on their individual and lawful feelings and attitudes is in fact immoral when viewed through the lens of the Golden Rule.

So-called "gay marriage" is the opposite of morality.

Based on what? Treat others as you would be treated?

Treat others as they would treat you. Only do it first.

The scumbag corollary to the teachings of Jesus of Nazareth.

 

[GWV5903]

I do not recognize a demarcation between President Obama and American ideals, principles and values

What you meant to say is “my brain has no idea what being a American is”, I get that, there are millions just like you...

The “demarcation” is he is a Socialist / Progressive, you would have to be deaf, dumb and blind to have missed that...

 

[Nosmo King]

Well,here is a left winger giving a full throated defense of the Golden Rule. I wonder where my counterparts on the Right are?

No your not, you are making an unfounded accusation and pretending the left has not been the ones rejecting public morality...You are not defending the golden rule as much as mocking it...and for political purposes as well

Please expand on that.

 

[Frankeneinstein]

False equivalence. Crimes must be investigated and tried.

What does that have to do with the "intentions" of the immoral? other than provide cover for them

 

[Nosmo King]

I do not recognize a demarcation between President Obama and American ideals, principles and values

What you meant to say is “my brain has no idea what being a American is”, I get that, there are millions just like you...

The “demarcation” is he is a Socialist / Progressive, you would have to be deaf, dumb and blind to have missed that...

And there is nothing about being a Progressive or a Socialist is anything but American. Unfettered Capitalism and regressive social attitudes have never brought any benefits to themAmerican people at large, only to the wealthiest.

 

[impuretrash]

 

[Frankeneinstein]

The scumbag corollary to the teachings of Jesus of Nazareth.

and the liberal side rears it's ugly head...next, the race card?

 

[Coyote]

His policies and his lack of character. Make no mistake, I am not indicting his supporters. I assume they are all adults and can make up their own minds. But Trump himself is a loathesom person.

He could have devised a policy to control the border without breaking families. But he chose to do just that. Thus he has shown me that he has no empathy for the human race. He uses divisive and intentionally hurtful language to describe these unfortunate people. He has shown a lack of basic respect for his neighbor.

Meanwhile, I, for one, have been taught to treat my neighbor as I would be treated.

Trump decided to cut taxes for those who can afford it while providing no benefit to those who could least afford it. That tired old doctrine of trickle down economics has been roundly disproved as truth.

Trump doesn't just disagree with American institutions but demonizes them. This sets folks up to be cynical at best, dismissive at worst for our most valued institutions such as a free press (not the enemy of the people, but certainly the enemy of tyrants and Authoritarians), our justice system and law enforcement.

I cannot be inspired by someone who comports himself as such a brazen bully. I would opt for inspirational politics, not instigational politics.

I'm sorry, but I was raised as an American and maintain my love for this great country. And I cannot be convinced that selling,out my ordained morality to support such a buffoon.

Thank you...couldn't have been said better

 

[Frankeneinstein]

Please expand on that.

No problem, see my previous posts

 

[OKTexas]

His policies and his lack of character. Make no mistake, I am not indicting his supporters. I assume they are all adults and can make up their own minds. But Trump himself is a loathesom person.

He could have devised a policy to control the border without breaking families. But he chose to do just that. Thus he has shown me that he has no empathy for the human race. He uses divisive and intentionally hurtful language to describe these unfortunate people. He has shown a lack of basic respect for his neighbor.

Meanwhile, I, for one, have been taught to treat my neighbor as I would be treated.

Trump decided to cut taxes for those who can afford it while providing no benefit to those who could least afford it. That tired old doctrine of trickle down economics has been roundly disproved as truth.

Trump doesn't just disagree with American institutions but demonizes them. This sets folks up to be cynical at best, dismissive at worst for our most valued institutions such as a free press (not the enemy of the people, but certainly the enemy of tyrants and Authoritarians), our justice system and law enforcement.

I cannot be inspired by someone who comports himself as such a brazen bully. I would opt for inspirational politics, not instigational politics.

I'm sorry, but I was raised as an American and maintain my love for this great country. And I cannot be convinced that selling,out my ordained morality to support such a buffoon.

Damn, sounds like you have one hell of a personal problem, 6.5 years to go.

BTW, when is your neighbor and their kids moving in with you?


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It's not a personal problem. It's a marginal problem.

And wishful thinking with that 6.5 years business. Trump, hopefully, won't have the opportunity to run for re-election.

You remind me of my neighbors Chihuahua, running around yapping like a big dog, while praying the whole time no one steps on ya. Things could be worse for ya, you could have a President Pence picking the next SCOTUS judge.

OH! And when did you say your neighbor and kids are moving in with ya?


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[GWV5903]

And there is nothing about being a Progressive or a Socialist is anything but American. Unfettered Capitalism and regressive social attitudes have never brought any benefits to themAmerican people at large, only to the wealthiest.

I see you missed your US History and Civics classes or you failed, again there are millions just like you, we need a new social class called “Victimized”...

You and your “Victimization Class” can tell hard working Americans how mistreated you are, let us know how we owe you “A Participation Check” to exist...

 

[bripat9643]

And it is why the left chose to use the term "impose" when dispensing with the morality of the day, there was no law forcing morality on us just Americans shunning those they knew were immoral and the left taking up the cause of the shunned by denouncing their morals...so is your answer a yes or no? is there any benefit to our culture from turning our backs on public morality?...btw, trying to teach morals to those being shunned is where the phrase "don't impose your morality on me" came from.

When public morality strays from the kernel of moral behavior, treat others as you would be treated, there are some who would exploit that breach by actually imposing an immoral point of view. I cite marriage equality as such an example. Treat others as you would be treated suggests the private lives of others are out of bounds so long as those others are committing no crimes. The morality that calls for sequestering others based on their individual and lawful feelings and attitudes is in fact immoral when viewed through the lens of the Golden Rule.

So-called "gay marriage" is the opposite of morality.

Based on what? Treat others as you would be treated?

I would treat everybody the same with a law that says marriage is a union between a man and a woman.

Marriage is contract law. So long as both parties in the contract are law abiding, and are not currently related by blood, there is no moral basis to exclude them from access to contractual,agreements.

Why should it matter whether they are related by blood?

 

[Nosmo King]

Please expand on that.

No problem, see my previous posts

I wonder how you concluded I am mocking the Golden Rule even for political purposes.

 

[bripat9643]

I do not recognize a demarcation between President Obama and American ideals, principles and values

What you meant to say is “my brain has no idea what being a American is”, I get that, there are millions just like you...

The “demarcation” is he is a Socialist / Progressive, you would have to be deaf, dumb and blind to have missed that...

And there is nothing about being a Progressive or a Socialist is anything but American. Unfettered Capitalism and regressive social attitudes have never brought any benefits to themAmerican people at large, only to the wealthiest.

Unfettered capitalism is what made the USA the wealthiest country in the world, dumbass.