Virginia Halts Concealed Carry Reciprocity With 25 States

[2aguy]

Nope.....the 2nd Amendment is a civil right...and states cannot deny law abiding citizens access to that right....that they do now is because they haven't been pushed back on it....just like when the democrats used poll taxes and literacy tests in southern states to keep blacks from exercising their right to vote.

The can regulate wether a felon can carry a gun, but not a law abiding citizen.....you can't say that some citizens can't vote because they didn't graduate from high school, or can't pay a fee for the ballot.....same with guns.

Can your average law abiding citizen carry a fully automatic weapon? A grenade? A cannon?

A fully automatic weapon, yes. Grenades and cannons probably not, they don't fit into the small arms category of the military. I fall into the category that whatever the police and military can carry, so to the people who pay their salaries and provide their equipment....

The rule of thumb is whatever the police and military gets, so too the citizen........that way you don't get the German Model of gun control that you saw in the 1930s-40s.........things didn't go well under the German model.......and of course the German Model is exactly what the gun grabbers want...

Any category you might want to put yourself in doesn't matter in the least. The laws are the laws, and you might as well get used to it.

Yeah...that is what they used to say about killing babies...and then they changed the law.....dittos redefining marriage, now bakers are arrested......

Laws change.....this violation of civil rights needs to change.

Of course laws change as new facts are revealed. Such as homosexuality is not a sickness. That's not going to help you own fully automatic weapons.

You can already own fully automatic weapons....

 

[BULLDOG]

Nope. Make up your mind. Either states have the right to regulate the carrying of guns or they don't. Do you want all those decisions made at a federal level? I do, but that's not how it works.

Nope.....the 2nd Amendment is a civil right...and states cannot deny law abiding citizens access to that right....that they do now is because they haven't been pushed back on it....just like when the democrats used poll taxes and literacy tests in southern states to keep blacks from exercising their right to vote.

The can regulate wether a felon can carry a gun, but not a law abiding citizen.....you can't say that some citizens can't vote because they didn't graduate from high school, or can't pay a fee for the ballot.....same with guns.

Can your average law abiding citizen carry a fully automatic weapon? A grenade? A cannon?

A fully automatic weapon, yes. Grenades and cannons probably not, they don't fit into the small arms category of the military. I fall into the category that whatever the police and military can carry, so to the people who pay their salaries and provide their equipment....

The rule of thumb is whatever the police and military gets, so too the citizen........that way you don't get the German Model of gun control that you saw in the 1930s-40s.........things didn't go well under the German model.......and of course the German Model is exactly what the gun grabbers want...

Any category you might want to put yourself in doesn't matter in the least. The laws are the laws, and you might as well get used to it.

Yeah...that is what they used to say about killing babies...and then they changed the law.....dittos redefining marriage, now bakers are arrested......

Laws change.....this violation of civil rights needs to change.

Quit whining you big baby.

 

[2aguy]

Nope.....the 2nd Amendment is a civil right...and states cannot deny law abiding citizens access to that right....that they do now is because they haven't been pushed back on it....just like when the democrats used poll taxes and literacy tests in southern states to keep blacks from exercising their right to vote.

The can regulate wether a felon can carry a gun, but not a law abiding citizen.....you can't say that some citizens can't vote because they didn't graduate from high school, or can't pay a fee for the ballot.....same with guns.

Can your average law abiding citizen carry a fully automatic weapon? A grenade? A cannon?

A fully automatic weapon, yes. Grenades and cannons probably not, they don't fit into the small arms category of the military. I fall into the category that whatever the police and military can carry, so to the people who pay their salaries and provide their equipment....

The rule of thumb is whatever the police and military gets, so too the citizen........that way you don't get the German Model of gun control that you saw in the 1930s-40s.........things didn't go well under the German model.......and of course the German Model is exactly what the gun grabbers want...

The German model? Technically, that's not really a thing, it's not a standard for gun control. What is their model now?

Just the same, you're not allowed to have fully automatic weapons, the military is. Is that the German model and how come the 2nd amendment failed so miserably?

Yes...the German Model of gun control made popular by the people who ran the death camps.

Not really, those laws were already in affect. How strict are Germany's laws today?

exactly, they were the German Model....and also you could say they are the Mexican Model of gun control......you can tell the Mexican Model at work by all the dead bodies of unarmed civilians along the border.

 

[BULLDOG]

Can your average law abiding citizen carry a fully automatic weapon? A grenade? A cannon?

A fully automatic weapon, yes. Grenades and cannons probably not, they don't fit into the small arms category of the military. I fall into the category that whatever the police and military can carry, so to the people who pay their salaries and provide their equipment....

The rule of thumb is whatever the police and military gets, so too the citizen........that way you don't get the German Model of gun control that you saw in the 1930s-40s.........things didn't go well under the German model.......and of course the German Model is exactly what the gun grabbers want...

Any category you might want to put yourself in doesn't matter in the least. The laws are the laws, and you might as well get used to it.

Yeah...that is what they used to say about killing babies...and then they changed the law.....dittos redefining marriage, now bakers are arrested......

Laws change.....this violation of civil rights needs to change.

Of course laws change as new facts are revealed. Such as homosexuality is not a sickness. That's not going to help you own fully automatic weapons.

You can already own fully automatic weapons....

You can't prance down the street with them in a state you don't live in.

 

[HappyJoy]

Can your average law abiding citizen carry a fully automatic weapon? A grenade? A cannon?

A fully automatic weapon, yes. Grenades and cannons probably not, they don't fit into the small arms category of the military. I fall into the category that whatever the police and military can carry, so to the people who pay their salaries and provide their equipment....

The rule of thumb is whatever the police and military gets, so too the citizen........that way you don't get the German Model of gun control that you saw in the 1930s-40s.........things didn't go well under the German model.......and of course the German Model is exactly what the gun grabbers want...

The German model? Technically, that's not really a thing, it's not a standard for gun control. What is their model now?

Just the same, you're not allowed to have fully automatic weapons, the military is. Is that the German model and how come the 2nd amendment failed so miserably?

Yes...the German Model of gun control made popular by the people who ran the death camps.

Not really, those laws were already in affect. How strict are Germany's laws today?

exactly, they were the German Model....and also you could say they are the Mexican Model of gun control......you can tell the Mexican Model at work by all the dead bodies of unarmed civilians along the border.

Was Germany the only country to have those laws?

 

[HappyJoy]

Can your average law abiding citizen carry a fully automatic weapon? A grenade? A cannon?

A fully automatic weapon, yes. Grenades and cannons probably not, they don't fit into the small arms category of the military. I fall into the category that whatever the police and military can carry, so to the people who pay their salaries and provide their equipment....

The rule of thumb is whatever the police and military gets, so too the citizen........that way you don't get the German Model of gun control that you saw in the 1930s-40s.........things didn't go well under the German model.......and of course the German Model is exactly what the gun grabbers want...

Any category you might want to put yourself in doesn't matter in the least. The laws are the laws, and you might as well get used to it.

Yeah...that is what they used to say about killing babies...and then they changed the law.....dittos redefining marriage, now bakers are arrested......

Laws change.....this violation of civil rights needs to change.

Of course laws change as new facts are revealed. Such as homosexuality is not a sickness. That's not going to help you own fully automatic weapons.

You can already own fully automatic weapons....

How much does that cost?

 

[The Rabbi]

Vote out the clinton minion next election.

Why? For making sure that people carrying guns at least meet the state requirements for carrying guns? Why would they have any laws if only the people who live in their state are required to abide by those laws while there? That's like saying "We limit our highway speed to 70 MPH, but if you live in another state, you can drive as fast as you want while you're here"

Because carrying a gun is a civil right......you could not have democrats putting Poll Taxes and literacy tests in the south to keep blacks from voting, because voting was a civil right...same with guns........carrying a gun as a citizen is a right, not something the state can grant or take away....

Nope. Make up your mind. Either states have the right to regulate the carrying of guns or they don't. Do you want all those decisions made at a federal level? I do, but that's not how it works.

Nope.....the 2nd Amendment is a civil right...and states cannot deny law abiding citizens access to that right....that they do now is because they haven't been pushed back on it....just like when the democrats used poll taxes and literacy tests in southern states to keep blacks from exercising their right to vote.

The can regulate wether a felon can carry a gun, but not a law abiding citizen.....you can't say that some citizens can't vote because they didn't graduate from high school, or can't pay a fee for the ballot.....same with guns.

Can your average law abiding citizen carry a fully automatic weapon? A grenade? A cannon?

Yawn. This argument is so refuted one wonders how stupid you have to be to repeat it.

 

[2aguy]

Nope.....the 2nd Amendment is a civil right...and states cannot deny law abiding citizens access to that right....that they do now is because they haven't been pushed back on it....just like when the democrats used poll taxes and literacy tests in southern states to keep blacks from exercising their right to vote.

The can regulate wether a felon can carry a gun, but not a law abiding citizen.....you can't say that some citizens can't vote because they didn't graduate from high school, or can't pay a fee for the ballot.....same with guns.

Can your average law abiding citizen carry a fully automatic weapon? A grenade? A cannon?

A fully automatic weapon, yes. Grenades and cannons probably not, they don't fit into the small arms category of the military. I fall into the category that whatever the police and military can carry, so to the people who pay their salaries and provide their equipment....

The rule of thumb is whatever the police and military gets, so too the citizen........that way you don't get the German Model of gun control that you saw in the 1930s-40s.........things didn't go well under the German model.......and of course the German Model is exactly what the gun grabbers want...

Any category you might want to put yourself in doesn't matter in the least. The laws are the laws, and you might as well get used to it.

Yeah...that is what they used to say about killing babies...and then they changed the law.....dittos redefining marriage, now bakers are arrested......

Laws change.....this violation of civil rights needs to change.

Quit whining you big baby.

Oh.......allow me to translate....

Begin Translation:

Wow...2aguy is right....when my political party, the democrats wanted to keep blacks from voting, they created Poll Taxes and Literacy tests to block them. These were favored by the democrats in the South...but people knew it was a violation of the civil rights of blacks so they were declared illegal....

Guns are a civil right, as shown in the 2nd Amendment to the constitution....so 2aguy is right...we can't legally keep law abiding citizens from carrying guns in Viriginia if they aren't criminals...oh crap...now what do I say....oh yeah....I'll call him a baby....that should work...

End Translation.

 

[HappyJoy]

Why? For making sure that people carrying guns at least meet the state requirements for carrying guns? Why would they have any laws if only the people who live in their state are required to abide by those laws while there? That's like saying "We limit our highway speed to 70 MPH, but if you live in another state, you can drive as fast as you want while you're here"

Because carrying a gun is a civil right......you could not have democrats putting Poll Taxes and literacy tests in the south to keep blacks from voting, because voting was a civil right...same with guns........carrying a gun as a citizen is a right, not something the state can grant or take away....

Nope. Make up your mind. Either states have the right to regulate the carrying of guns or they don't. Do you want all those decisions made at a federal level? I do, but that's not how it works.

Nope.....the 2nd Amendment is a civil right...and states cannot deny law abiding citizens access to that right....that they do now is because they haven't been pushed back on it....just like when the democrats used poll taxes and literacy tests in southern states to keep blacks from exercising their right to vote.

The can regulate wether a felon can carry a gun, but not a law abiding citizen.....you can't say that some citizens can't vote because they didn't graduate from high school, or can't pay a fee for the ballot.....same with guns.

Can your average law abiding citizen carry a fully automatic weapon? A grenade? A cannon?

Yawn. This argument is so refuted one wonders how stupid you have to be to repeat it.

Awesome, then you can walk away now.

 

[2aguy]

A fully automatic weapon, yes. Grenades and cannons probably not, they don't fit into the small arms category of the military. I fall into the category that whatever the police and military can carry, so to the people who pay their salaries and provide their equipment....

The rule of thumb is whatever the police and military gets, so too the citizen........that way you don't get the German Model of gun control that you saw in the 1930s-40s.........things didn't go well under the German model.......and of course the German Model is exactly what the gun grabbers want...

Any category you might want to put yourself in doesn't matter in the least. The laws are the laws, and you might as well get used to it.

Yeah...that is what they used to say about killing babies...and then they changed the law.....dittos redefining marriage, now bakers are arrested......

Laws change.....this violation of civil rights needs to change.

Of course laws change as new facts are revealed. Such as homosexuality is not a sickness. That's not going to help you own fully automatic weapons.

You can already own fully automatic weapons....

How much does that cost?

You have to get a special license and fill out extra paperwork......

 

[2aguy]

A fully automatic weapon, yes. Grenades and cannons probably not, they don't fit into the small arms category of the military. I fall into the category that whatever the police and military can carry, so to the people who pay their salaries and provide their equipment....

The rule of thumb is whatever the police and military gets, so too the citizen........that way you don't get the German Model of gun control that you saw in the 1930s-40s.........things didn't go well under the German model.......and of course the German Model is exactly what the gun grabbers want...

Any category you might want to put yourself in doesn't matter in the least. The laws are the laws, and you might as well get used to it.

Yeah...that is what they used to say about killing babies...and then they changed the law.....dittos redefining marriage, now bakers are arrested......

Laws change.....this violation of civil rights needs to change.

Of course laws change as new facts are revealed. Such as homosexuality is not a sickness. That's not going to help you own fully automatic weapons.

You can already own fully automatic weapons....

You can't prance down the street with them in a state you don't live in.

And blacks weren't allowed to vote by democrats...thanks to know you supported their right to deny blacks the vote......good for you...most democrats try to hide their racism...

 

[HappyJoy]

Any category you might want to put yourself in doesn't matter in the least. The laws are the laws, and you might as well get used to it.

Yeah...that is what they used to say about killing babies...and then they changed the law.....dittos redefining marriage, now bakers are arrested......

Laws change.....this violation of civil rights needs to change.

Of course laws change as new facts are revealed. Such as homosexuality is not a sickness. That's not going to help you own fully automatic weapons.

You can already own fully automatic weapons....

How much does that cost?

You have to get a special license and fill out extra paperwork......

Can you carry it around in public? Whats is the cost difference compared to semi-automatic? What sort of paper work? I don't remember the 2nd mentioning anything about paperwork.

 

[2aguy]

A fully automatic weapon, yes. Grenades and cannons probably not, they don't fit into the small arms category of the military. I fall into the category that whatever the police and military can carry, so to the people who pay their salaries and provide their equipment....

The rule of thumb is whatever the police and military gets, so too the citizen........that way you don't get the German Model of gun control that you saw in the 1930s-40s.........things didn't go well under the German model.......and of course the German Model is exactly what the gun grabbers want...

The German model? Technically, that's not really a thing, it's not a standard for gun control. What is their model now?

Just the same, you're not allowed to have fully automatic weapons, the military is. Is that the German model and how come the 2nd amendment failed so miserably?

Yes...the German Model of gun control made popular by the people who ran the death camps.

Not really, those laws were already in affect. How strict are Germany's laws today?

exactly, they were the German Model....and also you could say they are the Mexican Model of gun control......you can tell the Mexican Model at work by all the dead bodies of unarmed civilians along the border.

Was Germany the only country to have those laws?

The German Model was the one used to murder 12 million people.....and the Mexican Model is used to murder innocent Mexicans along the border.

 

[BULLDOG]

Can your average law abiding citizen carry a fully automatic weapon? A grenade? A cannon?

A fully automatic weapon, yes. Grenades and cannons probably not, they don't fit into the small arms category of the military. I fall into the category that whatever the police and military can carry, so to the people who pay their salaries and provide their equipment....

The rule of thumb is whatever the police and military gets, so too the citizen........that way you don't get the German Model of gun control that you saw in the 1930s-40s.........things didn't go well under the German model.......and of course the German Model is exactly what the gun grabbers want...

Any category you might want to put yourself in doesn't matter in the least. The laws are the laws, and you might as well get used to it.

Yeah...that is what they used to say about killing babies...and then they changed the law.....dittos redefining marriage, now bakers are arrested......

Laws change.....this violation of civil rights needs to change.

Quit whining you big baby.

Oh.......allow me to translate....

Begin Translation:

Wow...2aguy is right....when my political party, the democrats wanted to keep blacks from voting, they created Poll Taxes and Literacy tests to block them. These were favored by the democrats in the South...but people knew it was a violation of the civil rights of blacks so they were declared illegal....

Guns are a civil right, as shown in the 2nd Amendment to the constitution....so 2aguy is right...we can't legally keep law abiding citizens from carrying guns in Viriginia if they aren't criminals...oh crap...now what do I say....oh yeah....I'll call him a baby....that should work...

End Translation.

You got all that from those five little words? Are you sure that it wasn't the voices in your head saying all that?

 

[2aguy]

Yeah...that is what they used to say about killing babies...and then they changed the law.....dittos redefining marriage, now bakers are arrested......

Laws change.....this violation of civil rights needs to change.

Of course laws change as new facts are revealed. Such as homosexuality is not a sickness. That's not going to help you own fully automatic weapons.

You can already own fully automatic weapons....

How much does that cost?

You have to get a special license and fill out extra paperwork......

Can you carry it around in public? Whats is the cost difference compared to semi-automatic?

Couldn't say about the cost, I am not a big gun person........I don't know if you can carry a long gun in public like that......there are issues of anti civil rights activists......they don't like people exercising the 2nd Amendment....

 

[2aguy]

A fully automatic weapon, yes. Grenades and cannons probably not, they don't fit into the small arms category of the military. I fall into the category that whatever the police and military can carry, so to the people who pay their salaries and provide their equipment....

The rule of thumb is whatever the police and military gets, so too the citizen........that way you don't get the German Model of gun control that you saw in the 1930s-40s.........things didn't go well under the German model.......and of course the German Model is exactly what the gun grabbers want...

Any category you might want to put yourself in doesn't matter in the least. The laws are the laws, and you might as well get used to it.

Yeah...that is what they used to say about killing babies...and then they changed the law.....dittos redefining marriage, now bakers are arrested......

Laws change.....this violation of civil rights needs to change.

Quit whining you big baby.

Oh.......allow me to translate....

Begin Translation:

Wow...2aguy is right....when my political party, the democrats wanted to keep blacks from voting, they created Poll Taxes and Literacy tests to block them. These were favored by the democrats in the South...but people knew it was a violation of the civil rights of blacks so they were declared illegal....

Guns are a civil right, as shown in the 2nd Amendment to the constitution....so 2aguy is right...we can't legally keep law abiding citizens from carrying guns in Viriginia if they aren't criminals...oh crap...now what do I say....oh yeah....I'll call him a baby....that should work...

End Translation.

You got all that from those five little words? Are you sure that it wasn't the voices in your head saying all that?

No, the voices in my head tell me you are a moron....and I tell them to be more polite...it is Christmas eve....

 

[BULLDOG]

Any category you might want to put yourself in doesn't matter in the least. The laws are the laws, and you might as well get used to it.

Yeah...that is what they used to say about killing babies...and then they changed the law.....dittos redefining marriage, now bakers are arrested......

Laws change.....this violation of civil rights needs to change.

Of course laws change as new facts are revealed. Such as homosexuality is not a sickness. That's not going to help you own fully automatic weapons.

You can already own fully automatic weapons....

How much does that cost?

You have to get a special license and fill out extra paperwork......

So does that license allow unregulated transport across state lines?

 

[HappyJoy]

The German model? Technically, that's not really a thing, it's not a standard for gun control. What is their model now?

Just the same, you're not allowed to have fully automatic weapons, the military is. Is that the German model and how come the 2nd amendment failed so miserably?

Yes...the German Model of gun control made popular by the people who ran the death camps.

Not really, those laws were already in affect. How strict are Germany's laws today?

exactly, they were the German Model....and also you could say they are the Mexican Model of gun control......you can tell the Mexican Model at work by all the dead bodies of unarmed civilians along the border.

Was Germany the only country to have those laws?

The German Model was the one used to murder 12 million people.....and the Mexican Model is used to murder innocent Mexicans along the border.

Actually, that's taking quite a bit of liberty with history, don't you think? Not a single reputable historian will tell you the holocaust was due to gun control.

 

[HappyJoy]

Yeah...that is what they used to say about killing babies...and then they changed the law.....dittos redefining marriage, now bakers are arrested......

Laws change.....this violation of civil rights needs to change.

Of course laws change as new facts are revealed. Such as homosexuality is not a sickness. That's not going to help you own fully automatic weapons.

You can already own fully automatic weapons....

How much does that cost?

You have to get a special license and fill out extra paperwork......

So does that license allow unregulated transport across state lines?

Of course it does, anything less would be an infringement on your 2nd amendment rights. Duh

 

[BULLDOG]

Any category you might want to put yourself in doesn't matter in the least. The laws are the laws, and you might as well get used to it.

Yeah...that is what they used to say about killing babies...and then they changed the law.....dittos redefining marriage, now bakers are arrested......

Laws change.....this violation of civil rights needs to change.

Of course laws change as new facts are revealed. Such as homosexuality is not a sickness. That's not going to help you own fully automatic weapons.

You can already own fully automatic weapons....

You can't prance down the street with them in a state you don't live in.

And blacks weren't allowed to vote by democrats...thanks to know you supported their right to deny blacks the vote......good for you...most democrats try to hide their racism...

Again, So last century. You got something from the last 5 or 6 decades?