Virginia Halts Concealed Carry Reciprocity With 25 States

[HappyJoy]

Any category you might want to put yourself in doesn't matter in the least. The laws are the laws, and you might as well get used to it.

Yeah...that is what they used to say about killing babies...and then they changed the law.....dittos redefining marriage, now bakers are arrested......

Laws change.....this violation of civil rights needs to change.

Of course laws change as new facts are revealed. Such as homosexuality is not a sickness. That's not going to help you own fully automatic weapons.

You can already own fully automatic weapons....

You can't prance down the street with them in a state you don't live in.

And blacks weren't allowed to vote by democrats...thanks to know you supported their right to deny blacks the vote......good for you...most democrats try to hide their racism...

You mean southerners but completely off topic.

 

[2aguy]

Yes...the German Model of gun control made popular by the people who ran the death camps.

Not really, those laws were already in affect. How strict are Germany's laws today?

exactly, they were the German Model....and also you could say they are the Mexican Model of gun control......you can tell the Mexican Model at work by all the dead bodies of unarmed civilians along the border.

Was Germany the only country to have those laws?

The German Model was the one used to murder 12 million people.....and the Mexican Model is used to murder innocent Mexicans along the border.

Actually, that's taking quite a bit of liberty with history, don't you think? Not a single reputable historian will tell you the holocaust was due to gun control.

Didn't say it was the cause...I said the German's used gun control to murder 12 million people.....people who had no way to defend themselves since they were disarmed.

 

[2aguy]

Yeah...that is what they used to say about killing babies...and then they changed the law.....dittos redefining marriage, now bakers are arrested......

Laws change.....this violation of civil rights needs to change.

Of course laws change as new facts are revealed. Such as homosexuality is not a sickness. That's not going to help you own fully automatic weapons.

You can already own fully automatic weapons....

You can't prance down the street with them in a state you don't live in.

And blacks weren't allowed to vote by democrats...thanks to know you supported their right to deny blacks the vote......good for you...most democrats try to hide their racism...

You mean southerners but completely off topic.

Yeah...that is what they used to say about killing babies...and then they changed the law.....dittos redefining marriage, now bakers are arrested......

Laws change.....this violation of civil rights needs to change.

Of course laws change as new facts are revealed. Such as homosexuality is not a sickness. That's not going to help you own fully automatic weapons.

You can already own fully automatic weapons....

How much does that cost?

You have to get a special license and fill out extra paperwork......

So does that license allow unregulated transport across state lines?

No idea...ask some of the other gun guys, they will know....

 

[2aguy]

Yeah...that is what they used to say about killing babies...and then they changed the law.....dittos redefining marriage, now bakers are arrested......

Laws change.....this violation of civil rights needs to change.

Of course laws change as new facts are revealed. Such as homosexuality is not a sickness. That's not going to help you own fully automatic weapons.

You can already own fully automatic weapons....

You can't prance down the street with them in a state you don't live in.

And blacks weren't allowed to vote by democrats...thanks to know you supported their right to deny blacks the vote......good for you...most democrats try to hide their racism...

You mean southerners but completely off topic.

No.....democrats...the Republicans in the South didn't support the poll taxes...the democrats did.

 

[HappyJoy]

Not really, those laws were already in affect. How strict are Germany's laws today?

exactly, they were the German Model....and also you could say they are the Mexican Model of gun control......you can tell the Mexican Model at work by all the dead bodies of unarmed civilians along the border.

Was Germany the only country to have those laws?

The German Model was the one used to murder 12 million people.....and the Mexican Model is used to murder innocent Mexicans along the border.

Actually, that's taking quite a bit of liberty with history, don't you think? Not a single reputable historian will tell you the holocaust was due to gun control.

Didn't say it was the cause...I said the German's used gun control to murder 12 million people.....people who had no way to defend themselves since they were disarmed.

The Germans also used trains.

There isn't a credible source anywhere that will tell you the holocaust would have been avoided because of looser gun laws. That's on the fucking ridiculous side of the scale of "Is this ridiculous?"

 

[BULLDOG]

Of course laws change as new facts are revealed. Such as homosexuality is not a sickness. That's not going to help you own fully automatic weapons.

You can already own fully automatic weapons....

You can't prance down the street with them in a state you don't live in.

And blacks weren't allowed to vote by democrats...thanks to know you supported their right to deny blacks the vote......good for you...most democrats try to hide their racism...

You mean southerners but completely off topic.

Of course laws change as new facts are revealed. Such as homosexuality is not a sickness. That's not going to help you own fully automatic weapons.

You can already own fully automatic weapons....

How much does that cost?

You have to get a special license and fill out extra paperwork......

So does that license allow unregulated transport across state lines?

No idea...ask some of the other gun guys, they will know....

If you don't know what you are talking about, I suggest you don't bring it up. It makes you look stoooooopid.

 

[2aguy]

exactly, they were the German Model....and also you could say they are the Mexican Model of gun control......you can tell the Mexican Model at work by all the dead bodies of unarmed civilians along the border.

Was Germany the only country to have those laws?

The German Model was the one used to murder 12 million people.....and the Mexican Model is used to murder innocent Mexicans along the border.

Actually, that's taking quite a bit of liberty with history, don't you think? Not a single reputable historian will tell you the holocaust was due to gun control.

Didn't say it was the cause...I said the German's used gun control to murder 12 million people.....people who had no way to defend themselves since they were disarmed.

The Germans also used trains.

There isn't a credible source anywhere that will tell you the holocaust would have been avoided because of looser gun laws. That's on the fucking ridiculous side of the scale of "Is this ridiculous?"

Nope.....the Swiss kept the Germans from invading because they had over 400,000 law abiding citizens armed and ready to resist.....

Had the countries of Europe, including the Germans allowed their people to own and carry weapons, there would not have been the holocaust.....the German Socialists were able to murder and bully their opponents because they did not have guns to stop it...they used those tactics to take power, and then to murder 12 million people.

 

[HappyJoy]

Of course laws change as new facts are revealed. Such as homosexuality is not a sickness. That's not going to help you own fully automatic weapons.

You can already own fully automatic weapons....

You can't prance down the street with them in a state you don't live in.

And blacks weren't allowed to vote by democrats...thanks to know you supported their right to deny blacks the vote......good for you...most democrats try to hide their racism...

You mean southerners but completely off topic.

No.....democrats...the Republicans in the South didn't support the poll taxes...the democrats did.

No, southerners. Most of them Democrats. Not the same party as today. Really, this has to be gone over again? Next thing we get to do is ignore Robert Byrd's rating with the NAACP?

 

[C_Clayton_Jones]

2AGUY SAID:

"The can regulate wether a felon can carry a gun, but not a law abiding citizen.....you can't say that some citizens can't vote because they didn't graduate from high school, or can't pay a fee for the ballot.....same with guns."

Ignorant nonsense.

Government is at liberty to prohibit citizens from voting or possessing a gun if convicted of a felony.

The Second Amendment right is not unlimited, it is subject to reasonable restrictions by government, it is not an 'absolute' right, it is not a right to carry any weapon so desired for any purpose so desired.

Government is at liberty to regulate firearms consistent with current Second Amendment jurisprudence; government may prohibit guns from the mentally ill, keep guns out of schools, and regulate the commercial sale of firearms (see DC v. Heller).

 

[2aguy]

exactly, they were the German Model....and also you could say they are the Mexican Model of gun control......you can tell the Mexican Model at work by all the dead bodies of unarmed civilians along the border.

Was Germany the only country to have those laws?

The German Model was the one used to murder 12 million people.....and the Mexican Model is used to murder innocent Mexicans along the border.

Actually, that's taking quite a bit of liberty with history, don't you think? Not a single reputable historian will tell you the holocaust was due to gun control.

Didn't say it was the cause...I said the German's used gun control to murder 12 million people.....people who had no way to defend themselves since they were disarmed.

The Germans also used trains.

There isn't a credible source anywhere that will tell you the holocaust would have been avoided because of looser gun laws. That's on the fucking ridiculous side of the scale of "Is this ridiculous?"

Funny thing....we know exactly what happens to populations that are unarmed when their governments turn on them...every mass murder, genocide and ethnic cleansing only happens to people who are unarmed.....

 

[2aguy]

2AGUY SAID:

"The can regulate wether a felon can carry a gun, but not a law abiding citizen.....you can't say that some citizens can't vote because they didn't graduate from high school, or can't pay a fee for the ballot.....same with guns."

Ignorant nonsense.

Government is at liberty to prohibit citizens from voting or possessing a gun if convicted of a felony.

The Second Amendment right is not unlimited, it is subject to reasonable restrictions by government, it is not an 'absolute' right, it is not a right to carry any weapon so desired for any purpose so desired.

Government is at liberty to regulate firearms consistent with current Second Amendment jurisprudence; government may prohibit guns from the mentally ill, keep guns out of schools, and regulate the commercial sale of firearms (see DC v. Heller).

Twit...try reading what I posted...i said the exact same thing about felons several posts ago...try to keep up...twit.

 

[2aguy]

You can already own fully automatic weapons....

You can't prance down the street with them in a state you don't live in.

And blacks weren't allowed to vote by democrats...thanks to know you supported their right to deny blacks the vote......good for you...most democrats try to hide their racism...

You mean southerners but completely off topic.

No.....democrats...the Republicans in the South didn't support the poll taxes...the democrats did.

No, southerners. Most of them Democrats. Not the same party as today. Really, this has to be gone over again? Next thing we get to do is ignore Robert Byrd's rating with the NAACP?

the NAACP is the black racist wing of the modern democrat party...the democrat party is the home of all racists....of all colors, who all want to use the power of government to pursue their racist agendas......and since the Republicans, at least the base, seek to limit the power of a central government, the racists find no home there.........

Democrats created the poll taxes and the literacy tests......

 

[2aguy]

Merry Christmas twits......have a nice Day.

 

[HappyJoy]

Was Germany the only country to have those laws?

The German Model was the one used to murder 12 million people.....and the Mexican Model is used to murder innocent Mexicans along the border.

Actually, that's taking quite a bit of liberty with history, don't you think? Not a single reputable historian will tell you the holocaust was due to gun control.

Didn't say it was the cause...I said the German's used gun control to murder 12 million people.....people who had no way to defend themselves since they were disarmed.

The Germans also used trains.

There isn't a credible source anywhere that will tell you the holocaust would have been avoided because of looser gun laws. That's on the fucking ridiculous side of the scale of "Is this ridiculous?"

Nope.....the Swiss kept the Germans from invading because they had over 400,000 law abiding citizens armed and ready to resist.....

Had the countries of Europe, including the Germans allowed their people to own and carry weapons, there would not have been the holocaust.....the German Socialists were able to murder and bully their opponents because they did not have guns to stop it...they used those tactics to take power, and then to murder 12 million people.

Really? You honestly think Germany didn't invade Switzerland due to gun control laws? Switzerland was neutral and would have opened a new costly front for Germany if they invaded. There is no evidence gun control laws made the holocaust happen or Germany's plans with Switzerland. You're delusional.

 

[HappyJoy]

You can't prance down the street with them in a state you don't live in.

And blacks weren't allowed to vote by democrats...thanks to know you supported their right to deny blacks the vote......good for you...most democrats try to hide their racism...

You mean southerners but completely off topic.

No.....democrats...the Republicans in the South didn't support the poll taxes...the democrats did.

No, southerners. Most of them Democrats. Not the same party as today. Really, this has to be gone over again? Next thing we get to do is ignore Robert Byrd's rating with the NAACP?

the NAACP is the black racist wing of the modern democrat party...the democrat party is the home of all racists....of all colors, who all want to use the power of government to pursue their racist agendas......and since the Republicans, at least the base, seek to limit the power of a central government, the racists find no home there.........

Democrats created the poll taxes and the literacy tests......

So, you are saying Democrats were racist against blacks but then became racists against whites because racism is racism? You're really fucking delusional.

 

[2aguy]

The German Model of gun control...only the police and military have guns...

 

[HappyJoy]

Was Germany the only country to have those laws?

The German Model was the one used to murder 12 million people.....and the Mexican Model is used to murder innocent Mexicans along the border.

Actually, that's taking quite a bit of liberty with history, don't you think? Not a single reputable historian will tell you the holocaust was due to gun control.

Didn't say it was the cause...I said the German's used gun control to murder 12 million people.....people who had no way to defend themselves since they were disarmed.

The Germans also used trains.

There isn't a credible source anywhere that will tell you the holocaust would have been avoided because of looser gun laws. That's on the fucking ridiculous side of the scale of "Is this ridiculous?"

Funny thing....we know exactly what happens to populations that are unarmed when their governments turn on them...every mass murder, genocide and ethnic cleansing only happens to people who are unarmed.....

Then try proving it rather than blaming the holocaust on gun control you fucking moron.

 

[2aguy]

The German Model was the one used to murder 12 million people.....and the Mexican Model is used to murder innocent Mexicans along the border.

Actually, that's taking quite a bit of liberty with history, don't you think? Not a single reputable historian will tell you the holocaust was due to gun control.

Didn't say it was the cause...I said the German's used gun control to murder 12 million people.....people who had no way to defend themselves since they were disarmed.

The Germans also used trains.

There isn't a credible source anywhere that will tell you the holocaust would have been avoided because of looser gun laws. That's on the fucking ridiculous side of the scale of "Is this ridiculous?"

Nope.....the Swiss kept the Germans from invading because they had over 400,000 law abiding citizens armed and ready to resist.....

Had the countries of Europe, including the Germans allowed their people to own and carry weapons, there would not have been the holocaust.....the German Socialists were able to murder and bully their opponents because they did not have guns to stop it...they used those tactics to take power, and then to murder 12 million people.

Really? You honestly think Germany didn't invade Switzerland due to gun control laws? Switzerland was neutral and would have opened a new costly front for Germany if they invaded. There is no evidence gun control laws made the holocaust happen or Germany's plans with Switzerland. You're delusional.

Yep.....

THE SWISS WERE PREPARED TO FIGHT FACISM TO THE BITTER END | FRONTLINE | PBS



That is why the Nazis despised Switzerland. Joseph Goebbels called Switzerland "this stinking little state" where "sentiment has turned very much against us." Adolf Hitler decided that "all the rubbish of small nations still existing in Europe must be liquidated," even if it meant he would later "be attacked as the 'Butcher of the Swiss.'"



The 1940 Nazi invasion plan, Operation Tannenbaum, was not executed, and SS Oberst Hermann Bohme's 1943 memorandum warned that an invasion of Switzerland would be too costly because every man was armed and trained to shoot. This did not stop the Gestapo from preparing lists of Swiss to be liquidated once the Nazis overran the country.



The other European nations were easily toppled and had little means to wage a partisan war against the occupation. Once their standing armies were defeated, the governments capitulated and the populaces were defenseless.



Only in Switzerland was the entire populace armed and prepared to wage a relentless guerrilla war against an invader. When the war began in 1939, Switzerland mobilized 435,000 citizen soldiers out of a population of 4.2 million. Production figures for Swiss service rifles, which had firepower equal to those of the Germans, demonstrate an ample supply of small arms. Swiss militiamen were instructed to disregard any alleged "official" surrender as enemy propaganda and, if necessary, to fight individually. This meant that a nation of sharpshooters would be sniping at German soldiers at long ranges from every mountain.



While neutral, Switzerland was prepared to fight a Nazi invasion to the end. The celebrated Swiss Gen. Henri Guisan developed the strategy known as defense du reduit--an initial opposition followed by a retreat into the Alps, where a relentless war to the death would be waged. Most Swiss strongly opposed Nazism. Death sentences were issued for fifth-column activities, and proclamations against anti-Semitism were passed at various official levels. There was no Holocaust on Swiss soil, something that can not be said for France, the Netherlands, Poland or most of Europe.


And once the Germans defeated the weak militaries of the countries of Europe, their unarmed civilian populations had no way to fight a credible resistance/Guerilla war against the Germans....If 435,000 people in each of the occupied countries fought against the invaders, Germany would have had to retreat.....but no....the civilians were disarmed and easy victims...

And 12 million Europeans were put to death in German death camps...

 

[HappyJoy]

The German Model of gun control...only the police and military have guns...

FYI, nobody is advocating this.

 

[2aguy]

The German Model was the one used to murder 12 million people.....and the Mexican Model is used to murder innocent Mexicans along the border.

Actually, that's taking quite a bit of liberty with history, don't you think? Not a single reputable historian will tell you the holocaust was due to gun control.

Didn't say it was the cause...I said the German's used gun control to murder 12 million people.....people who had no way to defend themselves since they were disarmed.

The Germans also used trains.

There isn't a credible source anywhere that will tell you the holocaust would have been avoided because of looser gun laws. That's on the fucking ridiculous side of the scale of "Is this ridiculous?"

Funny thing....we know exactly what happens to populations that are unarmed when their governments turn on them...every mass murder, genocide and ethnic cleansing only happens to people who are unarmed.....

Then try proving it rather than blaming the holocaust on gun control you fucking moron.

You can't rewind history twit....we know for a fact that European civilians were disarmed...they had no means of resisting the Germans...except for the Swiss...who had 435,000 minimum under arms as civilians and ready to resist a German invasion...and though hitler hated the Swiss, he didn't invade them.