Voting Republican this term may end up changing the US Constitution to help the Far Right ideas

[ThisIsMe]

How did the Supreme Court end up with 6 Republican Judges?

A president nominated them, and then the senate confirmed them

 

[Sixties Fan]

A president nominated them, and then the senate confirmed them

[And Billionaire Republicans made sure that it would happen that way, but you would not know that it is what happened]

The Supreme Corp.: How Corporate and Right-Wing Interests Captured the U.S. Supreme Court | ACS

www.acslaw.org

 

[scruffy]

The far left has never attempted to violently overthrow a free and fair election as they did on January 6, 2020.

Neither has the right.

The far left has never had a president that led such an insurrection and coup attempt to try and stay in power.

Neither has the right.

If you’re undecided you need to decide which one is worse. It’s the Republican party that’s going for Authoritarian and against American democratic rule.

Liar. Dems have all the Stalinist pigs. No rightie has ever thrown a political prisoner in an American gulag.

And they have the CATHOLIC SCOTUS judges that can make it happen.

You're a bigot too. Figures. Leftards are ALL bigots

 

[scruffy]

NFBW: You are not paying attention to the GOP Nutjobs who are telling you what they are going to do if they take control of the HOUSE. They do not need to win the Senate to shut down the government over raising the debt ceiling. Republicans who regard the Jan6 assault on Congress to disrupt the peaceful transfer of democratic power as normal political discourse are signaling that they are going to force Biden to cut Social Security, Medicare Medicaid by defaulting on the Federal Government’s ability to pay debts already contracted if he dies not give in.

If they keep their word we are looking at an individual economic disaster in the West that Putin would cut off his left testicle to see it happen. nothing good can happen when pure ignorant and irrational assholes like Trump supporters seize control of the House of Representatives and the Constitution gives them unchecked power to use extortion to force an Administration to submit to their will or destroy the global economic system and have a catastrophe unlike the world has ever seen.

The whitest, election denier and insurrection Party of Republicans have nothing to lose if they hold the world hostage. They are as a whites dominated political party that had no where to go but away.

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Sorry, someone needs to stop Biden.

Starve the fucker if necessary.

 

[ThisIsMe]

[And Billionaire Republicans made sure that it would happen that way, but you would not know that it is what happened]

The Supreme Corp.: How Corporate and Right-Wing Interests Captured the U.S. Supreme Court | ACS

www.acslaw.org

An opinion piece? Ok, so there is corporate interest in politics, this is nothing new.

Anyway, what does this have to do, in any way, with what I posted?

 

[Sixties Fan]

An opinion piece? Ok, so there is corporate interest in politics, this is nothing new.

Anyway, what does this have to do, in any way, with what I posted?

Did you listen to it?

 

[Papageorgio]

NFBW: When a political party acts like a terrorist organization after attempting to overturn an election their presidential candidate lost, they won’t bother with a bill that Biden can veto when they can threaten to destroy the world’s economy on his watch and think they can get away with it this time in a post Jan6 insurrection world.

They don’t have the power unless and that would take a revolution and they don’t have military strength or the guts.

 

[ThisIsMe]

Did you listen to it?

No, I'm not going to sit for a 2+ hour video about people talking about their OPINION of what they think is going on.

Perhaps you could summarize it.

And again, why are we even talking about this? I didn't even mention scotus.

 

[Sixties Fan]

No, I'm not going to sit for a 2+ hour video about people talking about their OPINION of what they think is going on.

Perhaps you could summarize it.

Opinion based on what? Air, or knowledge of what goes on with the Supreme Court?

 

[ThisIsMe]

Opinion based on what? Air, or knowledge of what goes on with the Supreme Court?

I have no idea, I don't even know what you are talking about lol. This has no relation to what I posted.

 

[Sixties Fan]

I have no idea, I don't even know what you are talking about lol. This has no relation to what I posted.

I am just curious how it is that Garland did not get his chance to go through the process with 8 months before the elections during the Obama Presidency, and Bennet got her interview and approved in how short a time before the elections.

What was going there?

Why do we have 6 Republican Supreme Court Judges and not 5.

 

[scruffy]

I worked for many Admirals and several of my COs became Admirals. Can you say that, dumbass?

My first boss was an Admiral.

Not officially, and not directly, but I was in his office a lot.

Smartest guy I've ever met. Or one of the smartest, anyway. I met Serge Lang once, he was pretty smart. But this guy was smarter.

 

[ThisIsMe]

I am just curious how it is that Garland did not get his chance to go through the process with 8 months before the elections during the Obama Presidency, and Bennet got her interview and approved in how short a time before the elections.

What was going there?

Why do we have 6 Republican Supreme Court Judges and not 5.

I don't know.....it's not related to my post. .perhaps someone else would be willing to engage with you on this.

 

[scruffy]

NFBW: What about Trump knowing some of his peacefully protesting supporters on the Mall were carrying firearms in violation of DC LAW, as he made his Jan6 ‘Stop the Steal’ speech, knowing full fucking well the election was not stolen. Then after the violence had begun, Trump waited the magnetometers taken down, so he could march to the Capitol with the angry mob whether they were armed or not.,

Then when restrained by his Secret Service agents forcing him back to the White House, he watched the violence unfold and did nothing to stop it.,

Do you doubt what The Jan 6 Committed has discovered?



NFBW: Do you know what the Eastman Plan is? it needed Pence to engage in a planned attempt to defraud the US government which he declined to do.

During the assault on the Capitol Trump tweeted essentially calling Pence a coward knowing his life was in danger which the videos show that tweet incited more violence when the angry mob at the Capitol heard it. So POTUS Incited a mob to commit bodily harm to his own VP because his VP refused to assist in the Plot to cancel Biden’s win and take the win for himself and for all those who were attacking the Capitol in the moment for him.

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No one fucking cares.

Seriously.

tl;dr

 

[scruffy]

Southern Poverty Law Center President and CEO Margaret Huang issued the statement below following the Republican National Committee's approval of a resolution challenging SPLC’s identification and condemnation of hate groups:

“This Republican National Committee's resolution is an attack on the SPLC's definition of hate groups in order to excuse the Trump administration's history of working with individuals and organizations that malign entire groups of people — such as Black Lives Matter advocates, immigrants, Muslims and the LGBTQ community — with dehumanizing rhetoric.

“While the Republican Party approved this resolution, notably, it did not denounce organizations that promote antisemitism, Islamophobia, neo-Nazis, anti-LGBT sentiment or racism. It only criticized the SPLC for challenging hate groups that have found a place in the Republican Party.

“From the moment that Donald Trump ran for president, he welcomed the support of hate groups like the Family Research Council and the Federation for American Immigration Reform (FAIR). Once in office, Trump actively hired and consulted alumni and allies from FAIR, an anti-immigrant hate group that has ties to white supremacist groups and eugenicists. They include Julie Kirchner, Kris Kobach, Jeff Sessions, and most notably Stephen Miller.

“The resolution comes at a moment when Trump will argue at the Republican National Convention that he will combat hate and bigotry. In addition to this resolution giving comfort to hate groups, we have recently seen other evidence of hate groups and extremists making inroads into the Republican Party. Some in the party welcome QAnon into the GOP’s fold. The indictment of Stephen Bannon in recent days is a reminder of the extremism that he sought to embed in the Republican Party. And the SPLC has shined a light on OANN’s Jack Posobiec, a reporter at Trump’s favorite 'news' network, who is aligned with white supremacy and has used his platform to further hate speech and propaganda.

“Now, Trump and the GOP are doubling down with QAnon and partnering with hate groups that are seeking to muzzle anyone who stands in their way of furthering their agenda and hurting communities that we care about.

“But we’re not going to back down from calling out white supremacists and hate groups or pushing back against their dehumanizing rhetoric.”

SPLC Responds to RNC Resolution

www.splcenter.org

SPLC - biggest hate group on the planet.

 

[NotfooledbyW]

they don’t have military strength

they don’t need the military - They need state legislators if the Republican loses who will reject the will of the voters and the Republican nominee. it what Trump wanted Pence to do because state legislators would not lie for Trump. So Trump orchestrated fake certified electors to be sent to Pence on Jan6 The plan with the fake electors was to create chaos which sends the vote to the House, which had the edge to declare Trump the winner.

 

[Papageorgio]

they don’t need the military - They need state legislators if the Republican loses who will reject the will of the voters and the Republican nominee. it what Trump wanted Pence to do because state legislators would not lie for Trump. So Trump orchestrated fake certified electors to be sent to Pence on Jan6 The plan with the fake electors was to create chaos which sends the vote to the House, which had the edge to declare Trump the winner.

Even if Pence did not certify the election, it would have meant nothing. Provisions were already in place over a century earlier, you are still batting .000.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/local/legal-issues/pence-certify-election-congress/2021/01/05/8662e5e2-4f67-11eb-bda4-615aaefd0555_story.html

Fact check: No, Pence can't overturn the election results

Here's exactly why Vice President Mike Pence can't stop Joe Biden from becoming the next president.

www.nbcnews.com

 

[NotfooledbyW]

you are still batting .000.

NFBW: I’m batting a thousand against you and every corrupted Republican mind here:

chaos: “Of course Pence did not have the power to overturn the election - Trump only wanted Pence to create chaos on Jan6 (the wild day) by recognizing the fake electors Trump had arranged to bring ti the ceremonial event on Jan6.

You are voting for the political party to win, that attempted to defraud the US government by creating chaos on January 6 including inciting its supporters to commit violence in order to stop the peaceful transfer of power to Joe Biden and thus shit upon the right to vote for every single Biden voter. That includes the mostly whiter than white political party shitting on the rights of nine out of ten black Americans who voted and their children and grandchildren coming up behind them.

Chaos was the plan Trump was hoping wouid work as he sat on his fat ass doing absolutely nothing to stop the violent attack on the US Governnent and the Constitution he as president took an oath to protect..

It is the Eastman memo that Trump intended to obstruct and subvert the CONSTITUTION. In the name of Each and every Republican except Cheney and Kizinger and all Republican never-Trumpers.

To your point Papageorgio I actually knew on Jan6,2021 that Pence did not have the authority to send electors certificates back to the state. So I knew Trump was lying.

What we all learned later was that Trump knew on Jan6 that Pence did not have that authority, and Trump knew the election was not stolen, but went ahead with his plot to create chaos and then the Constitution lays out it’s up to the House of Representatives to decide the entire election which Republicans held a one or two vote majority and could decide that Trump/Pence would serve a second term and it’s out with Biden’s win.

(see the Eastman memo following my exchanges with lennypartiv and Correll last this past January):

lennypartiv220129-#1,241 “Fine. Let's have a re-vote in Arizona, Georgia, Michigan, Pennsylvania, and Wisconsin.”

NFBW220129-#1,242 “We cannot have a revote in Arizona, Georgia, Michigan, Pennsylvania, and Wisconsin because the Constitution does not allow it in any way shape or form for any state that certified their electors by the constitutional deadline of December 14. - - - It is an observable fact that all fifty states certified their electors by that hard deadline. - - - It was over for Trump on December 14 as far as a legal path to a second term being available to him. - - - This is where the fake electors scandal comes into play. The fact that Trump pressured Pence to do something illegal is not an opinion as @Correll wants us to believe. That is because the only way that Pence could refuse to count the electors from any one state would be if he had received a duplicate set of electors from each of those states. But those states were certified so there was no reason to have a duplicate set of electors. - - - But we now know that there is a conspiracy involving the White House, Rudy Giuliani, a lawyer named John Eastman and 56 High ranking Republicans at the state level among seven states who put their signatures And a forgery claiming that they are the true electors for the state. That is a federal and state crime with sentences up to 20 years in prison. It is not a “so what” matter. 22JAN29-POST#1242..

THE PERTINENT PART OF THE EASTMAN MEMO from a full excerpt below;

chaos: So Pence says, fine. Pursuant to the 12th Amendment, no candidate has achieved the necessary majority. That sends the matter to the House, where the “the votes shall be taken by states, the representation from each state having one vote . . . .” Republicans currently control 26 of the state delegations, the bare majority needed to win that vote. President Trump is re-elected there as well.”​

​

Almost the full memo; EASTMANplan-00
TRUMP-Jan6-COUPattempt “””

“”” PRIVILEGED AND CONFIDENTIAL January 6 scenario 7 states have transmitted dual slates of electors to the President of the Senate.​

​

READ: Trump lawyer's memo on six-step plan for Pence to overturn the election​

​

By: CNN Updated 8:20 AM EDT, Tue September 21, 2021 21SEP21-EASTMANplan-00 TRUMP-Jan6-COUPattempt​

​

READ: Trump lawyer's memo on six-step plan for Pence to overturn the election​

​

John Eastman, a conservative lawyer working with then-President Donald Trump's legal team, outlined in a two-page memo a scheme to try to persuade then-Vice President Mike Pence to subvert the Constitution and throw out the 2020 election results on January 6.​

​

1. VP Pence, presiding over the joint session (or Senate Pro Tempore Grassley, if Pence recuses himself), begins to open and count the ballots, starting with Alabama (without conceding that the procedure, specified by the Electoral Count Act, of going through the States alphabetically is required).​

​

2. When he gets to Arizona, he announces that he has multiple slates of electors, and so is going to defer decision on that until finishing the other States. This would be the first break with the procedure set out in the Act.​

​

3. At the end, he announces that because of the ongoing disputes in the 7 States, there are no electors that can be deemed validly appointed in those States. That means the total number of “electors appointed” – the language of the 12th Amendment -- is 454. This reading of the 12th Amendment has also been advanced by Harvard Law Professor Laurence Tribe (here). A “majority of the electors appointed” would therefore be 228. There are at this point 232 votes for Trump, 222 votes for Biden. Pence then gavels President Trump as re-elected.​

​

4. Howls, of course, from the Democrats, who now claim, contrary to Tribe’s prior position, that 270 is required. So Pence says, fine. Pursuant to the 12th Amendment, no candidate has achieved the necessary majority. That sends the matter to the House, where the “the votes shall be taken by states, the representation from each state having one vote . . . .” Republicans currently control 26 of the state delegations, the bare majority needed to win that vote. President Trump is re-elected there as well.​

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[scruffy]

NFBW: I’m batting a thousand against you and every corrupted Republican mind here:

chaos: “Of course Pence did not have the power to overturn the election - Trump only wanted Pence to create chaos on Jan6 (the wild day) by recognizing the fake electors Trump had arranged to bring ti the ceremonial event on Jan6.

You are voting for the political party to win, that attempted to defraud the US government by creating chaos on January 6 including inciting its supporters to commit violence in order to stop the peaceful transfer of power to Joe Biden and thus shit upon the right to vote for every single Biden voter. That includes the mostly whiter than white political party shitting on the rights of nine out of ten black Americans who voted and their children and grandchildren coming up behind them.

Chaos was the plan Trump was hoping wouid work as he sat on his fat ass doing absolutely nothing to stop the violent attack on the US Governnent and the Constitution he as president took an oath to protect..

It is the Eastman memo that Trump intended to obstruct and subvert the CONSTITUTION. In the name of Each and every Republican except Cheney and Kizinger and all Republican never-Trumpers.

To your point Papageorgio I actually knew on Jan6,2021 that Pence did not have the authority to send electors certificates back to the state. So I knew Trump was lying.

What we all learned later was that Trump knew on Jan6 that Pence did not have that authority, and Trump knew the election was not stolen, but went ahead with his plot to create chaos and then the Constitution lays out it’s up to the House if Representatives to decide the entire election which Republicans held a one or two vote majority and could decide that Trump/Pence would serve a second term and it’s out Biden’s win.

(see the Eastman memo following my exchanges with lennypartiv and Correll last this past January):

lennypartiv220129-#1,241 “Fine. Let's have a re-vote in Arizona, Georgia, Michigan, Pennsylvania, and Wisconsin.”

NFBW220129-#1,242 “We cannot have a revote in Arizona, Georgia, Michigan, Pennsylvania, and Wisconsin because the Constitution does not allow it in any way shape or form for any state that certified their electors by the constitutional deadline of December 14. - - - It is an observable fact that all fifty states certified their electors by that hard deadline. - - - It was over for Trump on December 14 as far as a legal path to a second term being available to him. - - - This is where the fake electors scandal comes into play. The fact that Trump pressured Pence to do something illegal is not an opinion as @Correll wants us to believe. That is because the only way that Pence could refuse to count the electors from any one state would be if he had received a duplicate set of electors from each of those states. But those states were certified so there was no reason to have a duplicate set of electors. - - - But we now know that there is a conspiracy involving the White House, Rudy Giuliani, a lawyer named John Eastman and 56 High ranking Republicans at the state level among seven states who put their signatures And a forgery claiming that they are the true electors for the state. That is a federal and state crime with sentences up to 20 years in prison. It is not a “so what” matter. 22JAN29-POST#1242..

THE PERTINENT PART OF THE EASTMAN MEMO from a full excerpt below;

chaos: So Pence says, fine. Pursuant to the 12th Amendment, no candidate has achieved the necessary majority. That sends the matter to the House, where the “the votes shall be taken by states, the representation from each state having one vote . . . .” Republicans currently control 26 of the state delegations, the bare majority needed to win that vote. President Trump is re-elected there as well.”​

​

Almost the full memo; EASTMANplan-00
TRUMP-Jan6-COUPattempt “””

“”” PRIVILEGED AND CONFIDENTIAL January 6 scenario 7 states have transmitted dual slates of electors to the President of the Senate.​

​

READ: Trump lawyer's memo on six-step plan for Pence to overturn the election​

​

By: CNN Updated 8:20 AM EDT, Tue September 21, 2021 21SEP21-EASTMANplan-00 TRUMP-Jan6-COUPattempt​

​

READ: Trump lawyer's memo on six-step plan for Pence to overturn the election​

​

John Eastman, a conservative lawyer working with then-President Donald Trump's legal team, outlined in a two-page memo a scheme to try to persuade then-Vice President Mike Pence to subvert the Constitution and throw out the 2020 election results on January 6.​

​

1. VP Pence, presiding over the joint session (or Senate Pro Tempore Grassley, if Pence recuses himself), begins to open and count the ballots, starting with Alabama (without conceding that the procedure, specified by the Electoral Count Act, of going through the States alphabetically is required).​

​

2. When he gets to Arizona, he announces that he has multiple slates of electors, and so is going to defer decision on that until finishing the other States. This would be the first break with the procedure set out in the Act.​

​

3. At the end, he announces that because of the ongoing disputes in the 7 States, there are no electors that can be deemed validly appointed in those States. That means the total number of “electors appointed” – the language of the 12th Amendment -- is 454. This reading of the 12th Amendment has also been advanced by Harvard Law Professor Laurence Tribe (here). A “majority of the electors appointed” would therefore be 228. There are at this point 232 votes for Trump, 222 votes for Biden. Pence then gavels President Trump as re-elected.​

​

4. Howls, of course, from the Democrats, who now claim, contrary to Tribe’s prior position, that 270 is required. So Pence says, fine. Pursuant to the 12th Amendment, no candidate has achieved the necessary majority. That sends the matter to the House, where the “the votes shall be taken by states, the representation from each state having one vote . . . .” Republicans currently control 26 of the state delegations, the bare majority needed to win that vote. President Trump is re-elected there as well.​

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tl;dr

 

[NotfooledbyW]

Bla bla bla

See that Papageorgio - it is your typical right wing Trumper Republican you want to have control of Congress that you trust won’t fuck with the debt ceiling to have it dictatorially their way or no way.