Was Flynn entrapped?

[Skylar]

And the evidence that Napolitano offers that the government strong armed Michael Flynn is........nothing.

The governments tactics are pretty clear proof of what they did.

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Their tactic of asking Flynn questions?

No their deception that they just wanted to have a low key conversation. They intentionally withheld it was an evidentiary interview where Flynn should have had a lawyer. I don't think judge Sullivan will look favorably on that.

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A low key conversation that Flynn LIED to them at. With Flynn willfully and knowingly making materially false, ficticious and fraudulent statements to federal investigators. No one forced him to. He wasn't 'tricked' into lying his ass off. Flynn chose to.

And commited serious crimes in the process.

Ahd your babble about 'evidentiary interviews' is pseudo-legal gibberish. There's no requirement of a lawyer when federal investigators ask someone a few questions.

We'll see what the judge has to say about it after he reviews the memos, notes and 302s.

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Ah, so you're imagining that the judge will agree with you.

 

[Syriusly]

Checking Robert Mueller
KIMBERLEY A. STRASSEL DECEMBER 13, 2018

Robert Mueller has operated for 19 months as a law unto himself, reminding us of the awesome and destructive powers of special counsels. About the only possible check on Mr. Mueller is a judge who is wise to the tricks of prosecutors and investigators. Good news: That’s what we got this week.

Former national security adviser Mike Flynn a year ago pleaded guilty to one count of lying to the Federal Bureau of Investigation about his conversations with Russia’s ambassador to the U.S. Mr. Flynn’s defense team this week filed a sentencing memo to Judge Emmet Sullivan that contained explosive new information about the Flynn-FBI meeting in January 2017.

It was arranged by then-Deputy FBI Director Andrew McCabe, who personally called Mr. Flynn on other business, then suggested he sit down with two agents to clear up the Russia question. Mr. McCabe urged Mr. Flynn to conduct the interview with no lawyer present—to make things easier.

The agents (including the infamous Peter Strzok) showed up within two hours. They had already decided not to inform Mr. Flynn that they had transcripts of his conversations or give him the standard warning against lying to the FBI. They wanted him “relaxed” and “unguarded.” Former Director James Comey this weekend bragged on MSNBC that he would never have “gotten away” with such a move in a more “organized” administration.

The whole thing stinks of entrapment, though the curious question was how the Flynn defense team got the details. The court filing refers to a McCabe memo written the day of the 2017 meeting, as well as an FBI summary—known as a 302—of the Flynn interview. These are among documents congressional Republicans have been fighting to obtain for more than a year, only to be stonewalled by the Justice Department. Now we know why the department didn’t want them public.

They have come to light thanks to a man who knows well how men like Messrs. Mueller and Comey operate: Judge Sullivan. He sits on the U.S. District Court in the District of Columbia, and as he wrote for the Journal last year, he got a “wake-up call” in 2008 while overseeing the trial of then-Sen. Ted Stevens of Alaska. Judge Sullivan ultimately assigned a lawyer to investigate Justice Department misconduct.

The investigator’s report found prosecutors had engaged in deliberate and repeated ethical violations, withholding key evidence from the defense. It also excoriated the FBI for failing to write up 302s and for omitting key facts from those it did write. The head of the FBI was Mr. Mueller.

Judge Sullivan has since made it his practice to begin every case with a Brady order, which reminds prosecutors of their constitutional obligation to provide the defense with any exculpatory evidence. On Dec. 12, 2017, days after being assigned the Flynn case, Judge Sullivan issued such an order, instructing Mr. Mueller’s team to turn over “any evidence in its possession that is favorable to defendant and material either to defendant’s guilt or punishment.” Had any other judge drawn the case, we likely would never have seen these details of the FBI’s behavior.

It’s clear that something has concerned the judge—who likely sees obvious parallels to the Stevens case. The media was predicting a quick ruling in the Flynn case. Instead, Judge Sullivan issued new orders Wednesday, demanding to see for himself the McCabe memo and the Flynn 302. He also ordered the special counsel to hand over by Friday any other documents relevant to the Flynn-FBI meeting.

Given his history with the FBI, the judge may also have some questions about the curious date on the Flynn 302—Aug. 22, 2017, seven months after the interview. Texts from Mr. Strzok and testimony from Mr. Comey both suggest the 302 was written long before then. Was the 302 edited in the interim? If so, by whom, and at whose direction? FBI officials initially testified to Congress that the agents did not think Mr. Flynn had lied.

Judges have the ability to reject plea deals and require a prosecutor to make a case at trial. The criminal-justice system isn’t only about holding defendants accountable; trials also provide oversight of investigators and their tactics. And judges are not obliged to follow prosecutors’ sentencing recommendations.

No one knows how Judge Sullivan will rule. His reputation is for being no-nonsense, a straight shooter, an advocate of government transparency. Whatever the outcome, he has done the nation a favor by using his Brady order to hold prosecutors to some account and allow the country a glimpse at how federal law enforcement operates. Which is the very least the country can expect.

Outline - Read & annotate without distractions

It is hard not to come to the conclusion that two different forms of justice exist in this country, one for democrats and another for their adversaries. Specifically anyone with ties to Trump.

Oh, and did you know that the iphones issued to Strozk and Page by the SCO were determined BY SOMEONE IN THE SPECIAL COUNSEL'S OFFICE to contain ‘No substantive texts, notes or reminders', so the phones were wiped clean and restored to factory settings, meaning anything on them was gone. That was done after both of them were removed from the SCO investigation back in the summer of 2017, but given that many within Mueller's organization were friends/supporters/associates/donors to the Clintons, how much credence should we give to those determinations?

We don't know what information was summarily destroyed, but the whole process stinks to high heaven. Maybe it's all coincidental and innocent of wrong-doing, no proof that it wasn't because once again any possible incrimination evidence has been deleted. You know, after awhile a patttern kind of emerges.

The OIG was able to recover more than 19,000 texts between Strozk and Page on their old government-issued Samsung Galaxy S5 devices that had been lost due to the agency’s “collection tool failure.” The OIG did not include the content of these texts in the report. I suspect at some point maybe we'll find out more about what really happened.

DOJ Destroyed Missing Strzok/Page Texts Before IG Reviewed Them

a) Did Flynn lie to the FBI agents? yes
b) Did Flynn know it was illegal to lie to a federal law enforcement agent? After 30 years in the military he either knew or is a total idiot.

Why do you think it is okay to lie to FBI agents?

 

[Leo123]

He was bankrupted and his family was threatened, what would you do? Classic extortion, but it's not illegal when the government does it.

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Judge Napolitano Thinks Gov’t May Have Strong Armed Michael Flynn Into Guilty Plea

And the evidence that Napolitano offers that the government strong armed Michael Flynn is........nothing.

The governments tactics are pretty clear proof of what they did.

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Their tactic of asking Flynn questions?

Remember back when a guilty plea was an admission of guilt?

That was BH....(before Hillary)

 

[Skylar]

Judge Napolitano Thinks Gov’t May Have Strong Armed Michael Flynn Into Guilty Plea

And the evidence that Napolitano offers that the government strong armed Michael Flynn is........nothing.

The governments tactics are pretty clear proof of what they did.

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Their tactic of asking Flynn questions?

Remember back when a guilty plea was an admission of guilt?

That was BH....(before Hillary)

And what did Hillary plead guilty to? Specifically and with evidence. Let me demonstrate what evidence looks like. Michael Flynn plead guilty to willfully and knowing making materially false, ficticious and fraudulent statements to federal investigators.

Says who?

Says his plea deal!

Michael Flynn Plea Agreement Documents

Now you try. Show us, with evidence, what Hillary plead guilty to.

 

[Syriusly]

Judge Napolitano Thinks Gov’t May Have Strong Armed Michael Flynn Into Guilty Plea

And the evidence that Napolitano offers that the government strong armed Michael Flynn is........nothing.

The governments tactics are pretty clear proof of what they did.

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Their tactic of asking Flynn questions?

Remember back when a guilty plea was an admission of guilt?

That was before the era of the special counsel:

Funny how contards only feel that the FBI is abusing their power when it comes to the prosecution of wealthy privelaged white men.

 

[OKTexas]

He was bankrupted and his family was threatened, what would you do? Classic extortion, but it's not illegal when the government does it.

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Judge Napolitano Thinks Gov’t May Have Strong Armed Michael Flynn Into Guilty Plea

And the evidence that Napolitano offers that the government strong armed Michael Flynn is........nothing.

The governments tactics are pretty clear proof of what they did.

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Their tactic of asking Flynn questions?

Remember back when a guilty plea was an admission of guilt?

Yeah, I saw it all the time when I was driving a truck, a cop stopped people for speeding, then gave them the option to take a ticket for a seatbelt violation because it wasn't a moving violation. Were they guilty?

.

 

[Skylar]

Judge Napolitano Thinks Gov’t May Have Strong Armed Michael Flynn Into Guilty Plea

And the evidence that Napolitano offers that the government strong armed Michael Flynn is........nothing.

The governments tactics are pretty clear proof of what they did.

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Their tactic of asking Flynn questions?

Remember back when a guilty plea was an admission of guilt?

Yeah, I saw it all the time when I was driving a truck, a cop stopped people for speeding, then gave them the option to take a ticket for a seatbelt violation because it wasn't a moving violation. Were they guilty?

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So you're giving us your legal opinion of Flynn's guilty plea to willfully and knowingly making materially false, ficticious and fraudulent statements to federal investigators.....

.....as a truck driver?

LMAO! Holy shit, guys. This is getting embarassing to watch.

 

[skye]

There is no doubt General Flynn was entrapped! He was!

Mueller and his whole team should be in jail!

How much longer ......how much.... will we have to wait, to see some justice done?

...days pass....weeks pass.... months pass.....how long.....oh Lord, how long.

 

[Leo123]

a) Did Flynn lie to the FBI agents? yes
b) Did Flynn know it was illegal to lie to a federal law enforcement agent? After 30 years in the military he either knew or is a total idiot.

Why do you think it is okay to lie to FBI agents?

Oh Gawd.....Another dunderhead......OK please post the exact verbiage of his lies. DO NOT post a link to some supposed indictment that is laughably vague. Look if you condone this FBI political coercion and political punishment LOOK OUT! It's coming YOUR way soon. Unless we replace the currently corrupt FBI higher echelon with honest American citizens, we will become even more divided and an easy target for power-despots such as George Soros and Putin.

RANT ALERT!!!: We all watched James Comey completely absolve Hillary after stating she committed crimes. "She didn't know any better" was the basic defense. BTW Comey was on the Senate White Water Committee investigating the Clintons. He concluded: "a highly improper pattern of deliberate misconduct." That's it!!!! Comey has been shielding the Clinton's ever since. We had, and still have, a POLITICAL FBI. Time to clean house.

 

[Leo123]

Funny how contards only feel that the FBI is abusing their power when it comes to the prosecution of wealthy privelaged white men.

Funny how racists seem to claim the moral 'high ground.' Oh yeah, they make it up as they go along....relative morality..... real good little Marxists they are.

 

[candycorn]

Judge Napolitano Thinks Gov’t May Have Strong Armed Michael Flynn Into Guilty Plea

And the evidence that Napolitano offers that the government strong armed Michael Flynn is........nothing.

The governments tactics are pretty clear proof of what they did.

.

Their tactic of asking Flynn questions?

Remember back when a guilty plea was an admission of guilt?

Yeah, I saw it all the time when I was driving a truck, a cop stopped people for speeding, then gave them the option to take a ticket for a seatbelt violation because it wasn't a moving violation. Were they guilty?

.

So you heard the conversation while you were driving by the cop and the people they stopped?

 

[Skylar]

a) Did Flynn lie to the FBI agents? yes
b) Did Flynn know it was illegal to lie to a federal law enforcement agent? After 30 years in the military he either knew or is a total idiot.

Why do you think it is okay to lie to FBI agents?

Oh Gawd.....Another dunderhead......OK please post the exact verbiage of his lies. DO NOT post a link to some supposed indictment that is laughably vague. Look if you condone this FBI political coercion and political punishment LOOK OUT! It's coming YOUR way soon. Unless we replace the currently corrupt FBI higher echelon with honest American citizens, we will become even more divided and an easy target for power-despots such as George Soros and Putin.

RANT ALERT!!!: We all watched James Comey completely absolve Hillary after stating she committed crimes. "She didn't know any better" was the basic defense. BTW Comey was on the Senate White Water Committee investigating the Clintons. He concluded: "a highly improper pattern of deliberate misconduct." That's it!!!! Comey has been shielding the Clinton's ever since. We had, and still have, a POLITICAL FBI. Time to clean house.

And by 'dunderhead', you mean yet another person that won't accept your batshit conspiracy theory backed by nothing, nor will ignore Michael Flynn admitting his own guilt in open court?

Remember....the only one saying that Mueller coerced Flynn by using his son, is you.

 

[candycorn]

There is no doubt General Flynn was entrapped! He was!

Mueller and his whole team should be in jail!

How much longer ......how much.... will we have to wait, to see some justice done?

...days pass....weeks pass.... months pass.....how long.....oh Lord, how long.

Wasn't the declassification of the FISA memo supposed to shut down the investigation...back in early October? Oh yeah, you were wrong about that too.

 

[OKTexas]

The governments tactics are pretty clear proof of what they did.

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Their tactic of asking Flynn questions?

No their deception that they just wanted to have a low key conversation. They intentionally withheld it was an evidentiary interview where Flynn should have had a lawyer. I don't think judge Sullivan will look favorably on that.

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A low key conversation that Flynn LIED to them at. With Flynn willfully and knowingly making materially false, ficticious and fraudulent statements to federal investigators. No one forced him to. He wasn't 'tricked' into lying his ass off. Flynn chose to.

And commited serious crimes in the process.

Ahd your babble about 'evidentiary interviews' is pseudo-legal gibberish. There's no requirement of a lawyer when federal investigators ask someone a few questions.

We'll see what the judge has to say about it after he reviews the memos, notes and 302s.

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Ah, so you're imagining that the judge will agree with you.

He has a reputation of slapping the shit out of prosecutors for misconduct. Like I said, we'll see.

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[Skylar]

Their tactic of asking Flynn questions?

No their deception that they just wanted to have a low key conversation. They intentionally withheld it was an evidentiary interview where Flynn should have had a lawyer. I don't think judge Sullivan will look favorably on that.

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A low key conversation that Flynn LIED to them at. With Flynn willfully and knowingly making materially false, ficticious and fraudulent statements to federal investigators. No one forced him to. He wasn't 'tricked' into lying his ass off. Flynn chose to.

And commited serious crimes in the process.

Ahd your babble about 'evidentiary interviews' is pseudo-legal gibberish. There's no requirement of a lawyer when federal investigators ask someone a few questions.

We'll see what the judge has to say about it after he reviews the memos, notes and 302s.

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Ah, so you're imagining that the judge will agree with you.

He has a reputation of slapping the shit out of prosecutors for misconduct. Like I said, we'll see.

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More accurately, you imagine.

 

[Syriusly]

a) Did Flynn lie to the FBI agents? yes
b) Did Flynn know it was illegal to lie to a federal law enforcement agent? After 30 years in the military he either knew or is a total idiot.

Why do you think it is okay to lie to FBI agents?

Oh Gawd.....Another dunderhead......OK please post the exact verbiage of his lies. DO NOT post a link to some supposed indictment that is laughably vague. Look if you condone this FBI political coercion and political punishment LOOK OUT! .

Tell me how what the FBI did was 'coercion'?
His lawyers have acknowledged his lies- as did Flynn in his guilty plea.
“Having made a serious error in judgment, for which he has shown true contrition, he recognized it was consistent with the values by which he has led his life simply to provide the facts to those charged with enforcing our laws,” his lawyers wrote in requesting probation and community service. “On the day he entered his guilty plea, he said he was ‘working to set things right.’ He has done so.”

Flynn, who pleaded guilty to lying to the FBI about conversations during the presidential transition period with the then-Russian ambassador to the United States, will next week become the first White House official punished in the special counsel’s ongoing probe into whether the Trump campaign coordinated with Russia during the 2016 presidential election.

If you still aren't sure what Flynn lied about- perhaps you should ask Flynn's lawyers and Flynn to clarify it for you?

 

[Syriusly]

Funny how contards only feel that the FBI is abusing their power when it comes to the prosecution of wealthy privelaged white men.

Funny how racists seem to claim the moral 'high ground.' Oh yeah, they make it up as they go along....relative morality..... real good little Marxists they are.

Apparently I am a Marxist because....well because I am not Donald Trump?

LOL

You contards- amazing how you suddenly feel that law enforcement is acting unfairly when it comes to the prosecution of wealthy priveleged white men.

 

[Skylar]

a) Did Flynn lie to the FBI agents? yes
b) Did Flynn know it was illegal to lie to a federal law enforcement agent? After 30 years in the military he either knew or is a total idiot.

Why do you think it is okay to lie to FBI agents?

Oh Gawd.....Another dunderhead......OK please post the exact verbiage of his lies. DO NOT post a link to some supposed indictment that is laughably vague. Look if you condone this FBI political coercion and political punishment LOOK OUT! .

Tell me how what the FBI did was 'coercion'?
His lawyers have acknowledged his lies- as did Flynn in his guilty plea.
“Having made a serious error in judgment, for which he has shown true contrition, he recognized it was consistent with the values by which he has led his life simply to provide the facts to those charged with enforcing our laws,” his lawyers wrote in requesting probation and community service. “On the day he entered his guilty plea, he said he was ‘working to set things right.’ He has done so.”

Flynn, who pleaded guilty to lying to the FBI about conversations during the presidential transition period with the then-Russian ambassador to the United States, will next week become the first White House official punished in the special counsel’s ongoing probe into whether the Trump campaign coordinated with Russia during the 2016 presidential election.

If you still aren't sure what Flynn lied about- perhaps you should ask Flynn's lawyers and Flynn to clarify it for you?

Yeah, but that's actual evidence, Michael Flynn's own words and admissions. And these poor souls have no use for evidence.

They're relying entirely on *imagination*. Where they make up whatever silly conspiracy they want, backed by nothing, and ignore the overwhelming evidence that contradicts them.

 

[skye]

There is no doubt General Flynn was entrapped! He was!

Mueller and his whole team should be in jail!

How much longer ......how much.... will we have to wait, to see some justice done?

...days pass....weeks pass.... months pass.....how long.....oh Lord, how long.

Wasn't the declassification of the FISA memo supposed to shut down the investigation...back in early October? Oh yeah, you were wrong about that too.

hahaha!

 

[Skylar]

Yes, he was entrapped. They told him he was not under investigation and did not need an attorney when in fact he WAS under investigation and he WAS misled (tricked) into not having an attorney present. That's why Mueller doesn't want him to do time, he's hoping Flynn won't retaliate for his prosecutorial misconduct.

Poor little Flynn, the justice is after him...he did nothing wrong. SAYS NO ONE!!!

Whether he did anything wrong or not doesn't change the fact that he was entrapped, which is illegal. That means Mueller is guilty of a crime.

The problem with your reasoning being...he wasn't entrapped. Flynn agreed to be interviewed by FBI agents. He willfully and knowingly made materially false, ficticious and fraudulent statements to them.

That's not entrapment. That's Flynn violating Title 18, USC 1001 (a)(2).

Remember, you don't actually know what you're talking about. It tends to take the edge off of your 'legal analysis'.