Was Hitler right or left wing or neither?

[K9Buck]

I suppose we might need to define what it means to be right or left wing? Would anyone like to take a crack at this?

 

[SobieskiSavedEurope]

Hitler was far Right, something the U.S.A doesn't have.

The U.S.A mainly has two Liberal, Left Wing parties, the Republicans, and the Democrats.

 

[K9Buck]

Hitler was far Right, something the U.S.A doesn't have.

The U.S.A mainly has two Liberal, Left Wing parties, the Republicans, and the Democrats.

What characteristics defined Hitler as right wing?

 

[SobieskiSavedEurope]

Hitler was far Right, something the U.S.A doesn't have.

The U.S.A mainly has two Liberal, Left Wing parties, the Republicans, and the Democrats.

What charachteritics defined Hitler as right wing?

Authoritarian, Hierarchy, Traditional values, etc.

Right | ideology

Right
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Alternative Title: right wing
Right, portion of the political spectrum associated with conservative political thought. The term derives from the seating arrangement of the French revolutionary parliament (c.1790s) in which the conservative representatives sat to the presiding officer’s right. In the 19th century the term applied to conservatives who supported authority, tradition, and property. In the 20th century a divergent, radical form developed that was associated with fascism. See also left.

Right-wing politics - Wikipedia

Right-wing politics hold that certain social orders and hierarchies are inevitable, natural, normal or desirable,[1][2][3] typically supporting this position on the basis of natural law, economics or tradition.[4]. 693, 721[5][6][7][8][9] Hierarchy and inequality may be viewed as natural results of traditional social differences[10][11] or the competition in market economies.[12][13] The term right-wing can generally refer to "the conservative or reactionary section of a political party or system".[14]

The political terms "Left" and "Right" were first used during the French Revolution (1789–1799) and referred to seating arrangements in the French parliament: those who sat to the right of the chair of the parliamentary president were broadly supportive of the institutions of the monarchist Old Regime.[15][16][17][18] The original Right in France was formed as a reaction against the "Left" and comprised those politicians supporting hierarchy, tradition and clericalism.[4]:693 The use of the expression la droite ("the right") became prominent in France after the restoration of the monarchy in 1815, when it was applied to the Ultra-royalists.[19] The people of English-speaking countries did not apply the terms "right" and "left" to their own politics until the 20th century.[20]

 

[frigidweirdo]

I suppose we might need to define what it means to be right or left wing? Would anyone like to take a crack at this?

He was far-

 

[Tehon]

I suppose we might need to define what it means to be right or left wing? Would anyone like to take a crack at this?

The left wants to change society, the right wants to keep it the same as it was.

 

[Picaro]

I suppose we might need to define what it means to be right or left wing? Would anyone like to take a crack at this?

Hitler himself was just a mentally ill self-centered narcissist. His main sponsor was Goering, a member of the Junker class, German nobility, and introduced him to a lot of rich people and donors.

The actual Party itself, and Goebbels and Himmler, were left wingers, as were the Strasser brothers. the Strassers got tossed under the bus in 1933, and Goebbels and Himmler saw the writing on the wall and started sucking Hitler ass as he killed and blackmailed his way to a dictatorship, so their political commitments were not as strong as their own drive for power. The Communists were anti-Semitic for the most part, despite all the noise to the contrary, lot of self-hating Jews in the various Parties, so this movementt spawned both 'Spartan's and 'Nazis', as least for the rank and file membership:

National Bolshevism - Wikipedia

"During the 1920s, a number of German intellectuals began a dialogue which created a synthesis between radical nationalism (typically referencing Prussianism) and Bolshevism as it existed in the Soviet Union. The main figure in this was Ernst Niekisch of the Old Social Democratic Party of Germany, who edited the Widerstand journal.[7]

A National Bolshevik tendency also existed with the German Youth Movement, led by Karl Otto Paetel. Paetel had been a supporter of the Nazi Party but became disillusioned with them as he did not feel they were truly committed to revolutionary activity or socialist economics. His 1930-formed movement, the Group of Social Revolutionary Nationalists, sought to forge a "third way" between the Nazis and the Communists, emphasising both nationalism and socialist economics.[8] He was especially active in a largely unsuccessful attempt to win section of the Hitler Youth over to his cause.[9]

Although members of the National Socialist German Workers' Party under Adolf Hitler did not take part in Niekisch's National Bolshevik project and usually presented Bolshevism in exclusively negative terms as a "Jewish conspiracy", in the early 1930s there was a parallel tendency within the NSDAP which advocated similar views. This was represented by what has come to be known as Strasserism. A group led by Hermann Ehrhardt, Otto Strasser and Walther Stennes broke away in 1930 to found the Combat League of Revolutionary National Socialists (commonly known as the Black Front).[10]"

Not many of the street thugs in hitler's private army were actually political, anyway, just wanted to be on the winning side, and Hitler with over a million street thugs personally loyal to him and not the Party, it wasn't rocket science for the opportunists to pick him and his faction.

So the short answer is yes, the Nazis were indeed more influenced by the hard core Commie left wing intellectuals re policies, if not in rhetoric. Commiies aren't the only ones who read Gramsci and use his advice; plenty of right wingers do also, especially establishment Republicans' hired PR people, some of whom spam here on this board.

 

[Picaro]

Hitler was far Right, something the U.S.A doesn't have.

The U.S.A mainly has two Liberal, Left Wing parties, the Republicans, and the Democrats.

What characteristics defined Hitler as right wing?

Well, he created a command economy, so as far as actual policy goes, 'right' or 'left' wing' is a distinction without a difference as far as the unwashed masses are concerned. Both suck for them, and the results of one aren't different from the results of the other extreme in their reality.

 

[Mac1958]

Oh good, another Hitler thread.

He was his own brand of evil, regardless of how his evil is trivialized for shallow political points.

 

[Picaro]

Oh good, another Hitler thread.

He was his own brand of evil, regardless of how his evil is trivialized for shallow political points.

He represented the views a lot of people, so it's worth discussing, same as some of his spiritual brothers Stalin, Mao, and Lincoln are,.

 

[Mac1958]

Oh good, another Hitler thread.
He was his own brand of evil, regardless of how his evil is trivialized for shallow political points.

He represented the views a lot of people, so it's worth discussing, same as some of his spiritual brothers Stalin, Mao, and Lincoln are,.

Absolutely. He should be studied very carefully, and so should Nazism. CAREFULLY. But that's never the point when his name is dropped into partisan slap fights.
,.

 

[Two Thumbs]

I suppose we might need to define what it means to be right or left wing? Would anyone like to take a crack at this?

he was a socialist, national socialist to be exact, and therefore on the left.

that doesn't mean he's a democrat, even if he and democrats rounded up innocent men women and children and put them in camps.

 

[Picaro]

Oh good, another Hitler thread.
He was his own brand of evil, regardless of how his evil is trivialized for shallow political points.

He represented the views a lot of people, so it's worth discussing, same as some of his spiritual brothers Stalin, Mao, and Lincoln are,.

Absolutely. He should be studied very carefully, and so should Nazism. CAREFULLY. But that's never the point when his name is dropped into partisan slap fights.
,.

Why post on a message board, then? you can get group hugs in a therapy session somewhere. These posts are public, so even if the participants are not to your tastes, the Peanut Gallery lurkers can learn from the links and a few of the posts in spite of the spammers and shills.

 

[Mac1958]

Oh good, another Hitler thread.
He was his own brand of evil, regardless of how his evil is trivialized for shallow political points.

He represented the views a lot of people, so it's worth discussing, same as some of his spiritual brothers Stalin, Mao, and Lincoln are,.

Absolutely. He should be studied very carefully, and so should Nazism. CAREFULLY. But that's never the point when his name is dropped into partisan slap fights.
,.

Why post on a message board, then? you can get group hugs in a therapy session somewhere. These posts are public, so even if the participants are not to your tastes, the Peanut Gallery lurkers can learn from the links and a few of the posts in spite of the spammers and shills.

Because I choose to. I you don't like my posts, don't read them.
.

 

[frigidweirdo]

I suppose we might need to define what it means to be right or left wing? Would anyone like to take a crack at this?

The left wants to change society, the right wants to keep it the same as it was.

That's rather simplistic and wrong.

 

[Picaro]

Not many of the street thugs in hitler's private army were actually political, anyway, just wanted to be on the winning side, and Hitler with over a million street thugs personally loyal to him and not the Party, it wasn't rocket science for the opportunists to pick him and his faction.

Forgot to mention that the Versailles Treaty limited the German Army to 100,000 men, not even remotely enough to maintain order in a collapsed economy and political system, one of the incredibly stupid provisions in light of compounding the even more stupid policy of not occupying Germany when the war ended, so it's obvious what the real problem was early on. The Commies had as many or more than Hitler had, but more fractured leadership wise and eventually many moved over to him by the end of the 1920's.

 

[Tehon]

I suppose we might need to define what it means to be right or left wing? Would anyone like to take a crack at this?

he was a socialist, national socialist to be exact, and therefore on the left.

that doesn't mean he's a democrat, even if he and democrats rounded up innocent men women and children and put them in camps.

His brand of national socialism was right wing. He hated the Weimar Republic and wanted to restore the glory of the Monarchy which was overthrown in 1918 and which the Weimar Republic replaced.

 

[Tehon]

I suppose we might need to define what it means to be right or left wing? Would anyone like to take a crack at this?

The left wants to change society, the right wants to keep it the same as it was.

That's rather simplistic and wrong.

Okay, I'm sure that, due to its simplicity, you can explain why it is wrong.

 

[CrusaderFrank]

On the spectrum, Left is Government control and right is individual liberty.

Pretty easy after that

 

[frigidweirdo]

I suppose we might need to define what it means to be right or left wing? Would anyone like to take a crack at this?

he was a socialist, national socialist to be exact, and therefore on the left.

that doesn't mean he's a democrat, even if he and democrats rounded up innocent men women and children and put them in camps.

No, he wasn't a Socialist at all.

Hitler was a Nationalist, which is seen as being right wing.

He was a Germanic Nationalist, seeing all Germanic peoples as one. That's generally half of Austria, most of Germany, and parts of surrounding countries and most of Switzerland.

He saw Jewish people as being non-Germanic, so he hated them. He saw Slavs as non-Germanic, so he hated them. Germanic people were superior to all other people and everyone else should be their slaves.

There was a guy called Drexler who was both Nationalistic and Socialist. His party was the DAP, The German Workers' Party. He wanted to have Socialist in the title, but others thought that wasn't a good idea, mainly because they were opposed to the Communists and were also aiming for the Middle Classes.

Hitler joined this party. He was member 555 (claimed number 7)

The problem was that Drexler, the one who wanted Socialism, and the other socialists, were either made to be powerless or killed.

National Socialism is not Socialism.

Nazism - Wikipedia

"The term "National Socialism" arose out of attempts to create a nationalist redefinition of "socialism", as an alternative to both international socialism and free market capitalism. Nazism rejected the Marxist concept of class conflict, opposed cosmopolitan internationalism and sought to convince all parts of the new German society to subordinate their personal interests to the "common good", accepting political interests as the main priority of economic organization."

The Socialism part was essentially that you gave up your independence for the great good of Nationalism.