Wasting Money On Education???

[bendog]

Students today don’t have the values or give the effort they used to

They do little original research, are incapable of crafting original thoughts
They substitute cut and paste for their own opinions

But surely you buy into PC's bullshit of the Trumpette's eschewing wealth for morality. LOL

 

[rightwinger]

Students today don’t have the values or give the effort they used to

They do little original research, are incapable of crafting original thoughts
They substitute cut and paste for their own opinions

But surely you buy into PC's bullshit of the Trumpette's eschewing wealth for morality. LOL

Of course I don’t......
And don’t call me Shirley

 

[alang1216]

Education is never a waste

I'm gonna pretend that you are serious, as many probably believe that.....

And if so:

You couldn't be more wrong.
You could attempt to be, but you wouldn't succeed.



And see if this helps:


1. More details are emerging about Humam al-Balawi, the man who blew up seven intelligence agents in Afghanistan. By education and professional status, the Jordanian doctor is typical of recent suicidal attackers. The man accused of trying to blow up a plane on Christmas Day is a Nigerian graduate of the University of London. In the Fort Hood shootings, a Palestinian-American psychiatrist in the U.S. Army has been charged.
Humam al-Balawi was said to be carrying information about Ayman al-Zawahiri, Osama bin Laden's number two, himself a surgeon who was born to a prominent Egyptian family.
Mohamed Atta of 9/11, who was an Egyptian urban planner who had been working in Germany - these are not the wretched of the earth. What essentially is the grievance that draws them to al-Qaida?
Groups Recruiting Well-Educated Terrorists : NPR

2. A recent study at Princeton University by Alan Krueger and Jitka Maleckova, called "Education, Poverty, Political Violence and Terrorism: Is There a Causal Connection?" argues this point. One piece of the Krueger-Maleckova evidence involves 129 members of Hezbollah who died in action, mostly against Israel, from 1982 to 1994. Hezbollah is now designated by the U.S. as a terrorist organization. Biographical information from the Hezbollah newspaper al-Ahd indicates that the fighters who died were, on average, more educated and less impoverished than the Lebanese population of comparable age and regional origin….Moreover, the Palestinians' adherence to the view that the mass murder of civilians was not terrorism was independent of education and higher among those working than unemployed. Hence, support for terrorism was not reduced by increases in education and income….a study by Charles Russell and Bowman Miller (reprinted in the 1983 book Perspectives on Terrorism) considered 18 revolutionary groups, including the Japanese Red Army, Germany's Baader-Meinhof Gang, and Italy's Red Brigades. The authors found that "the vast majority of those individuals involved in terrorist activities as cadres or leaders is quite well-educated. In fact, approximately two-thirds of those identified terrorists are persons with some university training, [and] well over two-thirds of these individuals came from the middle or upper classes in their respective nations or areas." BW Online | June 10, 2002 | The Myth That Poverty Breeds Terrorism
http://www.krueger.princeton.edu/terrorism2.pdf

3. …men who belonged to violent Islamist groups active over the past few decades (some in jail, some not). Had those groups reflected the working-age populations of their countries, engineers would have made up about 3.5 percent of the membership. Instead, nearly 20 percent of the militants had engineering degrees. When Gambetta and Hertog looked at only the militants whose education was known for certain to have gone beyond high school, close to half (44 percent) had trained in engineering.
Today's Highly Educated Terrorists | The National Interest Blog

Today's Highly Educated Terrorists

4. Pol Pot, was the leader of the Cambodian communist movement known as the Khmer Rouge[3] and was Prime Minister of Democratic Kampuchea from 1976–1979. Pol Pot's leadership, in which he attempted to "cleanse" the country, resulted in the deaths of an estimated 1.7–2.5 million people…. he qualified for a scholarship that allowed for technical study in France. He studied radio electronics at the EFR in Paris from 1949 to 1953 Pol Pot - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

5. Khmer Rouge leader Khieu Samphan, who had studied in Paris, wrote in his doctoral dissertation that the Cambodian economy and social structure would be renewed by tapping “the dormant energy of the peasant mass” against the cities. “Kissinger, “The White House Years,” p. 518.

6. Ernesto "Che" Guevara "the man was a mass killer. Hundreds were reportedly executed on his watch" Why Do people love a mass murder like Che? // Current

Ernesto Guevara de la Serna (1928-1967) was an Argentine physician... Biography of Ernesto Che Guevara, Revolutionary Leader


As a young boy growing up, he had a passion for education, literature and philosophy. Mao Zedong
"he worked as a doctor. Che Guevara : Biography

7. Lenin was born Vladimir Ilyich Ulyanov, April 22, 1870….In 1891 he passed the law examinations at the University of St. Petersburg as an external student, scoring first in his class. He practiced law briefly in Samara before devoting himself to the revolutionary movement. Vladimir Ilyich Ulyanov (Lenin), 1870-1924

8. Bashar al-Assad is the President of the Syrian Arab Republic, Regional Secretary of the Ba'ath Party, and the son of former President Hafez al-Assad. Al-Assad is a controversial figure both in Syria and Internationally… for his disregard for human rights, economic lapses, sponsorship of terrorism, and corruption. Bashar studied ophthalmology at Damascus University 1988 and arrived in London in 1992 to continue his studies. Bashar al-Assad - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia



9. Mao was a rebellious teen-ager. His father wanted him to be a farmer; Mao wanted more education beyond the village grammar school. Mao left home at age 13 to attend an advanced school in a nearby district and in 1911 arrived in Changsha, the provincial capital, to attend secondary school…. He tried law enforcement, business and history before settling on education, graduating from a teachers' training school in 1918. He departed for Beijing to attend the university. CNN In-Depth Specials - Visions of China - Profiles: Mao Tse-tung



10.Al Qaeda leader Ayman al Zawahiri received his master's degree in surgery from Cairo University.... http://www.biography.com/people/ayman-al-zawahiri-241182


11. Nidal Hasan, Abdulmutallab and Humam al-Balawi are jihadists who were educated and came from privileged middle- and upper-class backgrounds. Hasan was an American-trained U. S. Army doctor, Abdulmutallab was a London engineering student and the son of a wealthy Nigerian banker, and double-agent Dr. Humam al-Balawi was a member of the Jordanian professional class. The Educated Muslim Terrorist


12. "One piece of the Krueger-Maleckova evidence involves 129 members of Hezbollah who died in action, mostly against Israel, from 1982 to 1994. Hezbollah is now designated by the U.S. as a terrorist organization. Biographical information from the Hezbollah newspaper al-Ahd indicates that the fighters who died were, on average, more educated and less impoverished than the Lebanese population of comparable age and regional origin." Bloomberg - Are you a robot?

and......" a study by Charles Russell and Bowman Miller (reprinted in the 1983 book Perspectives on Terrorism) considered 18 revolutionary groups, including the Japanese Red Army, Germany's Baader-Meinhof Gang, and Italy's Red Brigades. The authors found that "the vast majority of those individuals involved in terrorist activities as cadres or leaders is quite well-educated. In fact, approximately two-thirds of those identified terrorists are persons with some university training, [and] well over two-thirds of these individuals came from the middle or upper classes in their respective nations or areas."Ibid.


13. Fidel Castro was a talented student, and decided to pursue a career in law, entering the University of Havana Law School in 1945. After graduating law school, he opened a law office that primarily catered for poor Cubans, although it proved a financial failure.

Fidel Castro Biography - life, family, parents, story, history, school, mother, young, son, old, information, born


Highly educated Leftists, smart guys all....



So, I'm wondering if our friends on the Left would like to claim any of these highly educated folks as their heroes?

You know, unlike the "amiable dunce, Ronald Reagan"...the guy who won the Cold War.
Could be the Left is wrong about what constitutes 'smart,' huh?



“The civilized people in the world, the ones who hide behind culture and art and politics…and even the law, they’re the ones to watch out for. They’ve got that perfect disguise goin’ for them, you know? But they’re the most vicious. They’re the most dangerous people on earth.”
Michael Connelly, "The Last Coyote," p.262




"Jihadi John", the masked Islamic State militant linked to the beheading of Western hostages, was named on Thursday as Kuwaiti-born London computer programmer Mohammed Emwazi by experts and the media.

The suspect is from a middle class family and earned a degree in computer programming before travelling to Syria around 2012, according to the report.

"Jihadi John", named after Beatle John Lennon due to his British accent, is believed to be responsible for the murders of US journalists James Foley and Steven Sotloff, British aid workers David Haines and Allan Henning and American aid worker Abdul-Rahman Kassig. IS executioner 'Jihadi John' named as London graduate | Daily Mail Online


"Radovan Karadzic, the former Bosnian Serb leader, was found guilty of genocide and crimes against humanity during the 1992-95 Bosnian war.

The atrocities during the war have been described as the worst crimes committed in Europe since World War Two.

One count of genocide related to the massacre of more than 7,500 Muslim men and boys in the Srebrenica enclave in July 1995...

§ 1968: Publishes collection of poetry

§ 1971: Graduates in medicine

§ 1983: Becomes team psychologist for Red Star Belgrade football club

§ 1990: Becomes president of Serbian Democratic Party

Profile: Radovan Karadzic

"Could be the Left is wrong about what constitutes 'smart,' huh?"

I think I know the difference between smart and educated and I know they don't always go together. Hitler barely had got an education at all yet he was a genius at knowing people. Some of the smartest people I know never got much of an education.

 

[bendog]

Students today don’t have the values or give the effort they used to

They do little original research, are incapable of crafting original thoughts
They substitute cut and paste for their own opinions

But surely you buy into PC's bullshit of the Trumpette's eschewing wealth for morality. LOL

Of course I don’t......
And don’t call me Shirley

LOL.

PC's nuts. But there is an interesting debate to be had on how we best can deliver a post HS education. The Freedom Caucus declared war on private brick and mortar private colleges/universities. Oddly where Trump and the gop leader of the charge got their educations. LOL

 

[LordBrownTrout]

Conservatives are threatened by education
They claim educated people are part of the elite that look down on them

Naw, you just have to ignore the liberal professors and their agenda.

 

[jknowgood]

Conservatives always think education is a waste of money

It was wasted on them

No, we are against spending a $100.000 on a liberal arts degree. Then wind up working at McDonald's, demanding $15.00 an hour.

 

[LaDairis]

Democrats love education spending, because that type of spending has the highest probability of being stolen by a Democrat.

 

[EduardBernstein]

Conservatives are threatened by education
They claim educated people are part of the elite that look down on them

Naw, you just have to ignore the liberal professors and their agenda.

Professors make America great again. Trump makes America the wild wild west again.

 

[LaDairis]

Trump makes America the wild wild west again

Gosh, wouldn't that be GREAT??

No Federal Debt. No welfare society. No illegals. No socializing of senior drugs. All free speech allowed.

Gosh, the "wild west" was a great time to be a freedom loving AMERICAN!!!

 

[EduardBernstein]

Last night I destroyed a "history professor" that claimed among other asinine shit that the Nazi party was "right wing" and killed more people than Stalin or Mao.

Whomever gave that utter ninny their credentials should be in prison for malpractice.


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Nazis started WWII which killed 85 million people on intention. Stalin, and Mao supposed killings are mostly just famine. Famine killed people in China, and Russia long before they went communist. If you want to blame communism for famine? Why not blame capitalism for famine. The most famines happened in Raj India by the British empire. As the capitalists from England gauged India, to sustain their greed. Allowing many millions of Indians to starve to death.

 

[Wyatt earp]

Conservatives are threatened by education
They claim educated people are part of the elite that look down on them

Naw, you just have to ignore the liberal professors and their agenda.

Professors make America great again. Trump makes America the wild wild west again.

Indoctrination

 

[LaDairis]

Nazis started WWII

Nope, Poland tried to invade Germany, just like "The Muslims" did 911....

 

[skews13]

At the heart of government policies are two very different views for the Left or the Right.

For the Left, money, wealth and material equality

For the Right, consideration of values, morality and ethics.


Both sides hope for happiness and productivity in society, but how to get there is based on those two, very different, ways of looking at things. Both see education as the way, one side promises success based on directing more money there. Let’s see how that plays out.




1.The promise was that more money for schools would be the answer for inequality, and providing all Americans with the opportunity our Founders promised. The G.I.Bill seemed to indicate that: it helped build a middle class.

Mandatory primary and secondary schooling was clearly the sort of thing that advanced a society. The calculation became ‘more money produces a better result of schooling, hence a happier and more productive society. And will take of that ‘inequality.’

Money= schooling=success. What could be wrong????




2. Then the other shoe dropped. “…an ambitious government study conducted by sociologist James Coleman had come to a conclusion so ‘seismic- that President Johnson’s administration considered not releasing it, and did release it on the Friday of the Fourth of July weekend….

The conclusion: ‘Schools are remarkably similar in the way they relate to the achievement of their pupils when the socioeconomic background of the students is taken into consideration.’” George Will, “The Conservative Sensibility, “ p. 315-316

“…a student's family background, coupled with a diverse socioeconomic mix in the classroom, appeared to be the biggest determinant of how well a child would learn. No one had said this before, backing it up with data. “ Coleman Report set the standard for the study of public education




3. WHAT???? “…“…a student's family background, coupled with a diverse socioeconomic mix in the classroom, appeared to be the biggest determinant of how well a child would learn.”

Family, family structure, and responsibility is more important than money or Leftist government policy????



How could that be????

After Franklin Roosevelt and then Lyndon Johnson built government on entitlements and give-away???

And LBJ’s Great Society destroyed the nuclear family???????

Both of them followed the dictates of Marx, Engels, and Trotsky, to destroy the family.



Now what?????

The GI Bill put WW2 vets through college that obtained the engineering degrees that built modern America. For every dollar invested in the GI Bill, America got a $7 return on their investment.

FDR was popularly elected 4 times by the people for a reason. The people were tired of struggling and dying, while a few robber Barron’s and their bankers claimed all of the wealth for themselves.

I guess the American people wanted more Marx, Engles, and Trotsky, and a lot less of what was making their lives miserable.

The failure of crony free market capitalism.

And as you can see, that same failure has a nice again reared it’s ugly head, and the people have once again caught on to trickle down economics. And as in the past it will be dealt with once again after another election or two, and the gravy train comes to a halt for the cronies and their bankers.

And if you think education is expensive, try ignorance.

 

[Dogmaphobe]

Students today don’t have the values or give the effort they used to

They do little original research, are incapable of crafting original thoughts
They substitute cut and paste for their own opinions

When do you graduate?

 

[EduardBernstein]

Nazis started WWII

Nope, Poland tried to invade Germany, just like "The Muslims" did 911....

Education builds a better future. It makes people more sensible, and capable. Science, and innovation depends on education.
Poland, and Germany were allies. They had a pact together since 1933. Many Poles joined the Nazis to help kill Jews in the Holocaust.

 

[DustyInfinity]

Education is never a waste

Education is never a waste

Now I have a headache. Is that racist or sexist?

 

[LaDairis]

Science, and innovation depends on education.

YEAH, EDUCATION AND SCIENCE.... like noticing that jet fuel burns at 600F, while steel melts at 2200F....

Where did the additional 1600F come from???



9/11 Truth Action Project

 

[bendog]

Science, and innovation depends on education.

YEAH, EDUCATION AND SCIENCE.... like noticing that jet fuel burns at 600F, while steel melts at 2200F....

Where did the additional 1600F come from???



9/11 Truth Action Project

irony

 

[rightwinger]

Conservatives are threatened by education
They claim educated people are part of the elite that look down on them

Naw, you just have to ignore the liberal professors and their agenda.

What makes you think professors are liberal?

Math, Science, business, healthcare......all liberal?

 

[fncceo]

Education is never a waste

Education is never a waste

Now I have a headache. Is that racist or sexist?

Can't we be both?