What a Biden Presidency would look like

[eddiew37]

Biden will rescue us from the Great Trump economic collapse of 2020

It was Biden's side that created the economic collapse of 2020. And they did so intentionally, and maliciously; using an overhyped flu bug as an excuse to willfully sabotage the economy.

215K dead Over hyped?? 41 states increased virus over hyped??

 

[rightwinger]

Biden also calls for a $15 federal minimum wage and is aggressively pro-union

Great, but what good are those if there are no jobs, like when he was VP?

Obama/Biden created 13 million jobs and dropped unemployment by 5 percent

Looks like Biden is going to have to fix Trumps disasterous economy

It’s often said that the definition of insanity is doing the same thing over again expecting a different result.

Voting for a Republican for president is a clear example of that definition.

Democrats since FDR have rescued America from Republican Economic Collapses

If Biden is elected, it will be the fourth time in less than 100 years a Democratic president has had to clean up a Republican mess.

It’s unfortunate the voters didn’t learn the first time.

The president did an excellent job with his big wand bring back those jobs obama said never was going to come back
Hell if obama did such a great job hillary would have won because obama said I may not be on the ballot but my policies are

He didn’t end up bringing back jobs
Especially those coal jobs he promised

 

[rightwinger]

Biden will rescue us from the Great Trump economic collapse of 2020

It was Biden's side that created the economic collapse of 2020. And they did so intentionally, and maliciously; using an overhyped flu bug as an excuse to willfully sabotage the economy.

Now you are REALLY grasping at straws

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

Market soaring with biden ahead by double digits means people like biden and want to get rid of this AH Trump

No, because Biden is likely not going to win. What investors see is a pretty good chance at making money with Trump in charge. Don't believe me? Watch how the market tanks if Biden gets in. His promise to increase capital gains taxes would do it alone.

 

[rightwinger]

Market soaring with biden ahead by double digits means people like biden and want to get rid of this AH Trump

No, because Biden is likely not going to win. What investors see is a pretty good chance at making money with Trump in charge. Don't believe me? Watch how the market tanks if Biden gets in. His promise to increase capital gains taxes would do it alone.

Do you understand what “likely” means?

Do you think it is as “likely” as it was a year ago?

 

[skews13]

Health care
Biden rejected "Medicare for all" during the primaries, promising instead to strengthen and expand the Affordable Care Act, now supported by a record 62 percent of Americans. He wants to add a public option for people to buy into Medicare, allow the federal government to negotiate pharmaceutical prices, and increase federal subsidies to drive down premiums for people who purchase plans on federal exchange

I'm with him on this, except where he wants the federal government to negotiate pharma prices.

It's Congress that passed regulatory law requiring premium pricing for pharmaceuticals for the Medicare system.

Also, it is the American tax payer that subsidizes the drugs that are brought to market in the first place. We shouldn't have to "negotiate" anything.

He should call for Congress to repeal the law requiring Medicare to pay premium prices, and put price controls on what they can charge for the drugs, given access to Medicare. A law should also be passed preventing pharmaceutical companies from making the slightest changes to their drugs, to get around patents, preventing cheaper generic versions from making it to consumers.

 

[skews13]

Market soaring with biden ahead by double digits means people like biden and want to get rid of this AH Trump

No, because Biden is likely not going to win. What investors see is a pretty good chance at making money with Trump in charge. Don't believe me? Watch how the market tanks if Biden gets in. His promise to increase capital gains taxes would do it alone.

Wrong. We heard this same line of horse shit when Bill Clinton was running on the same platform, and experienced the best economy, and markets in history.

 

[Sun Devil 92]

COVID-19
Biden has hammered the Trump administration for failing to coordinate a unified national pandemic response, and one of his first appointments would be a single official charged with addressing persistent shortages in testing supplies and personal protective equipment. Biden wants the federal government to hire 100,000 people to conduct contact tracing

More centralized government.

He'll also mandate masks.

Like he knows a fucking thing about science.

 

[MisterBeale]

 

[Sun Devil 92]

What a Biden Presidency would look like

My thoughts exactly.

When things from really stupid to really really really stupid....you'll know what happened.

 

[MisterBeale]

. . . folks just don't learn from history, apparently.

 

[Sun Devil 92]

Rather than invoke far left proposals like Green New Deal and Medicare for all, Biden has taken a pragmatic approach of what we can actually accomplish

What would a Biden presidency look like?

The Democratic challenger is pitching an ambitious progressive platform

theweek.com

But the Party of the Rumpers will still continue to lie out their asses.

Fine. Let them lie out of power. I have no problem ignoring them. They voted in trump (people say) because they were ignored. Boohoo! Sometime they deserve to be ignored. Let them be ignored for another 4 years while the country gets some of the problems created by trump party, sorted out.

And what problems were those ? Exactly ?

You think a booming economy is a problem ?

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

I just love these logical fallacy arguments. So EVERYBODY can become a CEO? You've been sold a shit sandwich that was the "American Dream". There is no such thing. Sure, they'll trot out examples of it - Jeff Bezos, Sergei Brin, Steve Jobs - but for every one of them, there are literally millions who never make it. You make out like everybody is going to reach that goal when less than 0.01% do. So let's start off the debate with reality, not some pie-in-the-sky dreaming of what life might be like. Almost everybody I know works their arses off, and yet their rewards are mediocre at best. When my parents bought their first house in 1969 the rule of thumb was the house would cost you 4 times the average salary. Last time I looked at was 12 times the average salary. Wages are stagnant yet the super rich just keep on getting richer.

And you know what, if some guy started up a business in his garage like Jobs and Gates both did, and took a punt, good on them. But when some fuckwit in some ivory tower is just pushing money around and fucking around with the stock market just so he can add a few zeroes to his bank account and adds nothing to society, he can go fuck himself. You know your Utopian dream is what these South American tinpot dictatorships end up being. Mega rich and dirt poor. There is overwhelming evidence that the gap between rich and poor is getting bigger in first world countries. You might be all right with that, but the long term game is a shit society.

How come you righties always try and make out that somebody making as much money as they can at the expense of everybody else is okay? It's not okay. Do those that take the big risks deserve the best rewards? Absolutely. But don't get some middle-tier accountant at some multi-national company come up with a great way to 'save' money just so they can get a bonus and ingratiate themselves with the boss to make it look like they are doing something while fucking with peoples' entitlements. You hate unions? Then stop making it so the working class need them.

You want to see the end game? Watch the documentary "American Factory". If you want to live in that kind of society - go for it. Not for me or my kids.

Perhaps my memory is incorrect here, but I thought you said you don't live in the US. If my memory is correct, how did your parents buy their first house in this country?

That aside, you're talking to somebody who's a landlord and from a construction family. The problem with housing is land increased dramatically throughout the years, government kept making more and more costly codes and regulations, union labor for the trades skyrocketed, and that's why houses are unaffordable today. Even my father, a retired bricklayer and certainly not a conservative told me repeatedly, if he was younger and wanted to build the same house he did years ago that we grew up in, it would be impossible because of government expense.

I have no reason not to believe my father. When I questioned my insurance company why I had so much coverage for my buildings, they said it's law. They have to supply enough insurance for a total rebuild. That cost was nearly four times what I bought the places for 26 years ago.

To your chagrin, most CEO's do not make multi-millions. Your MSM and liberal outlets only tell you about the ones who do to fuel your hatred of the rich. Most CEO's make high 5 figure salaries to low or mid 6 figure salaries a year. But you are correct in one of your statements. Not everybody can be a CEO, in fact most can't. That's why they are paid so much.

I have no problem with a person making as much as they can. In fact, I highly support it. However I support it if they do it themselves, not government and not unions for them. Employment is not an entitlement, it's a verbal contact. You do X work, and we pay you X amount of money. If this is unsatisfactory to you, make yourself worth more money, or find somebody that will meet your requirements. It's that simple.

 

[martybegan]

The economy
Biden proposes a level of public investment in American business not seen since World War II. He wants the federal government to spend $400 billion over four years purchasing U.S.-based goods and services and $300 billion in research and development for clean-energy initiatives. Biden also calls for a $15 federal minimum wage and is aggressively pro-union

so what will all the people at 15 bucks and above ask for if it is passed?...

Wages have been stagnant for over two decades

There is catching up to do. The days of cheap labor need to end

You elevate labor value by removing the people most likely to work for lower values.

Remove illegal immigrants and labor becomes less cheap.

 

[Cellblock2429]

Rather than invoke far left proposals like Green New Deal and Medicare for all, Biden has taken a pragmatic approach of what we can actually accomplish

What would a Biden presidency look like?

The Democratic challenger is pitching an ambitious progressive platform

theweek.com

Depends on the House and the Senate, and not just their numbers. Who's occupying the seats will matter, too.

And with just one tragic exception, people who occupy the White House always understand and appreciate the gravity of the position.

Obviously Trump hasn't, but I remain confident that he's a sad one-off.

/——/ Main Street USA under a Biden administration.

 

[eddiew37]

Rather than invoke far left proposals like Green New Deal and Medicare for all, Biden has taken a pragmatic approach of what we can actually accomplish

What would a Biden presidency look like?

The Democratic challenger is pitching an ambitious progressive platform

theweek.com

But the Party of the Rumpers will still continue to lie out their asses.

Fine. Let them lie out of power. I have no problem ignoring them. They voted in trump (people say) because they were ignored. Boohoo! Sometime they deserve to be ignored. Let them be ignored for another 4 years while the country gets some of the problems created by trump party, sorted out.

And what problems were those ? Exactly ?

You think a booming economy is a problem ?

Who's it booming for ??? The1% or the millions out of jobs? Not the 10's of 1000's stores going out of business , not the ones losing their health care because of AH republicans

 

[Sun Devil 92]

Rather than invoke far left proposals like Green New Deal and Medicare for all, Biden has taken a pragmatic approach of what we can actually accomplish

What would a Biden presidency look like?

The Democratic challenger is pitching an ambitious progressive platform

theweek.com

But the Party of the Rumpers will still continue to lie out their asses.

Fine. Let them lie out of power. I have no problem ignoring them. They voted in trump (people say) because they were ignored. Boohoo! Sometime they deserve to be ignored. Let them be ignored for another 4 years while the country gets some of the problems created by trump party, sorted out.

And what problems were those ? Exactly ?

You think a booming economy is a problem ?

Who's it booming for ??? The1% or the millions out of jobs? Not the 10's of 1000's stores going out of business , not the ones losing their health care because of AH republicans

Moron.

Prior to Covid, it was rolling.

Trump's approval among blacks was improving because they were finally seeing some economic opportunity.

You fuckers and your lockdown have screwed them over.

So shove your oversized red herring up your oversized ass.

 

[rightwinger]

Rather than invoke far left proposals like Green New Deal and Medicare for all, Biden has taken a pragmatic approach of what we can actually accomplish

What would a Biden presidency look like?

The Democratic challenger is pitching an ambitious progressive platform

theweek.com

But the Party of the Rumpers will still continue to lie out their asses.

Fine. Let them lie out of power. I have no problem ignoring them. They voted in trump (people say) because they were ignored. Boohoo! Sometime they deserve to be ignored. Let them be ignored for another 4 years while the country gets some of the problems created by trump party, sorted out.

And what problems were those ? Exactly ?

You think a booming economy is a problem ?

Who's it booming for ??? The1% or the millions out of jobs? Not the 10's of 1000's stores going out of business , not the ones losing their health care because of AH republicans

Moron.

Prior to Covid, it was rolling.

Trump's approval among blacks was improving because they were finally seeing some economic opportunity.

You fuckers and your lockdown have screwed them over.

So shove your oversized red herring up your oversized ass.

Trump had an opportunity to show leadership after COVID hit.
Instead, it has destroyed his presidency

 

[eddiew37]

Rather than invoke far left proposals like Green New Deal and Medicare for all, Biden has taken a pragmatic approach of what we can actually accomplish

What would a Biden presidency look like?

The Democratic challenger is pitching an ambitious progressive platform

theweek.com

But the Party of the Rumpers will still continue to lie out their asses.

Fine. Let them lie out of power. I have no problem ignoring them. They voted in trump (people say) because they were ignored. Boohoo! Sometime they deserve to be ignored. Let them be ignored for another 4 years while the country gets some of the problems created by trump party, sorted out.

And what problems were those ? Exactly ?

You think a booming economy is a problem ?

Who's it booming for ??? The1% or the millions out of jobs? Not the 10's of 1000's stores going out of business , not the ones losing their health care because of AH republicans

Moron.

Prior to Covid, it was rolling.

Trump's approval among blacks was improving because they were finally seeing some economic opportunity.

You fuckers and your lockdown have screwed them over.

So shove your oversized red herring up your oversized ass.

Only one I see with over sized asses are Trump and his POS Barr Trump has done shit for the middle class Get back to your trailer ,,,White trash

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

Teslas newest batter is 5 times more dense, 5 times lighter. Do you know what that means? If their current car can stop the newest hottest Vette in the Quarter mile and if you drive it normally, you can get 250 to 300 miles out of it in normal driving, Tesla is looking at over 750 miles. Probably over 1000 per charge. And it will cost about the same because the battery is cheaper to make than the Lipo4 is. Tesla is tooling up right now. Look for it early next year.

In the first 5 years, it will cost more because it costs more but year 5 to 10, it smokes the Gas hog.

In 2025, Tesla is introducing their solid state Battery that can be built right into the car itself and has a lifespan of more than 100,000 hours of service before replacement. It's not only useful for cars and light trucks, it's useful for heavy trucks as well. Can you imagine a Semi running fully loaded running cross country that has to stop every 1500 miles and do a 5 minute recharge? Now, make it autonomous but that may be at least a decade away.

Another company has a Carbon Battery that you build the outter skin out of it. Think of taking a lead pencil, making the carbon in it 1 mcrometer in depth and then stacking that on top of more layers. They already have small working models. But that's probably 10 years away.

In 1901, the Maxwell Electric Car did 23mph and 40 miles per charge. The Hand Built Gas Cars couldn't do any better and there was no real place to go in the United States that required more than 40 miles. 40 miles was the distance a good horse could make without wearing the horse and the rider out. But in 1903, a new motor/engine was introduced call the Gasoline Combustion Engine and all work went into it and the Electric Car was abandoned for the next 90 years. And there really wasn't any new leaps in battery technology for the next 100 years. That means that the Electric Car really didn't start being rediscovered until the 90s. It's come a very long way in a very short time. It took a lot longer than that to get a real workable affordable engine

Things are happening fast in energy right now. And I have only touched on the transportation. The Energy generation at Lockheed will shock the living hell out of you.

So get ready. BTW, I still won't get rid of my Hemi Powered Wagon. But I do drive my electric trike most of the time. It's fun in a different way and costs almost nothing to operate in comparison.

That's all fine and dandy, but once again, if all these miracles do happen, it has to happen on their own timeline, not the governments.

As a retired tractor-trailer operator for 30 years, I can assure you there will be no electric T/T in our lifetime. You're not going to pull a 75,000 lbs vehicle up a hill on electricity. It's difficult now with a diesel engine. When I was heavy and started a hill at 70mph, by the time I got up it, I was doing about 35mph. A steep hill? About 25mph or less.

The problem with electric cars is for one, you have to replace that expensive battery ever five years. Two, the materials to make car batteries have to be mined, and there is limited amount of material to make them. Three, the grid to support everybody charging an electric car would need billions of dollars in upgrades, and you would have to make that power somehow. You're not going to be able to create all that power from solar panels or windmills. Again, look at California. Four, when those power outages do take place, try telling your boss you can't make it in today because your car isn't charged.