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not a young earther....but I do question this......if human beings and sequoias both evolved from a single celled organism, why is it science has never been able to reproduce a single celled organism evolving into something simple, like a multicelled organism?.......We evolved from a common ancestor.
The counter would be that God just reused other body plans. Not logical certainly but not impossible. God could certainly have been more creative since he didn't need to have not only functional but advantageous intermediate steps as is required of evolution. He could have made us with wheels for instance.
its also claimed that we share a common ancestor with the sequoia.....why don't we have bark?......
The ancestor we shared lived 100's of billions of generations ago. We've since gone our separate ways and the bark that protects the sequoia would hinder our movements.
Of course, if you're a Bible literalist/young earther you'll dispute the 4.5 billion year age of the earth and assert evolution would be impossible due to the lack of time. Is that the case?
The really REALLY damning thing about our anatomy and god as a creator is that nothing on the face of the earth breeds true. Every species, including us, is susceptible to birth defects. Some good, some are improvements and thereby evolution but the overwhelming majority are bad. Defects in every sense of the word and there are millions of them every year. A very small percentage you say? Great! Tell that to the millions of people who receive them.
This is god's handiwork? Were I god, with god's powers I would not want to claim man as the zenith of my creative ability.
you can create cells that can divide trillions of times a day and not have a million defects?......you should go into competition.....God wouldn't stand a chance....
Are you saying a perfect God was incapable of creating a perfect system? Well either he was unable or unwilling. Seems that is the only conclusion.
not a young earther....but I do question this......if human beings and sequoias both evolved from a single celled organism, why is it science has never been able to reproduce a single celled organism evolving into something simple, like a multicelled organism?.......its also claimed that we share a common ancestor with the sequoia.....why don't we have bark?......
The ancestor we shared lived 100's of billions of generations ago. We've since gone our separate ways and the bark that protects the sequoia would hinder our movements.
Of course, if you're a Bible literalist/young earther you'll dispute the 4.5 billion year age of the earth and assert evolution would be impossible due to the lack of time. Is that the case?
not a young earther....but I do question this......if human beings and sequoias both evolved from a single celled organism, why is it science has never been able to reproduce a single celled organism evolving into something simple, like a multicelled organism?.......The ancestor we shared lived 100's of billions of generations ago. We've since gone our separate ways and the bark that protects the sequoia would hinder our movements.
Of course, if you're a Bible literalist/young earther you'll dispute the 4.5 billion year age of the earth and assert evolution would be impossible due to the lack of time. Is that the case?
you know perfectly well all multicelled organisms originate from a single cell and as you have been informed before, there is no fundamental distinction between single and multicellular organisms in their evolution.
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not a young earther....but I do question this......if human beings and sequoias both evolved from a single celled organism, why is it science has never been able to reproduce a single celled organism evolving into something simple, like a multicelled organism?.......
you know perfectly well all multicelled organisms originate from a single cell and as you have been informed before, there is no fundamental distinction between single and multicellular organisms in their evolution.
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TRY TO THINK!!! ONE LIVING HUMAN CELL IS FAR MORE COMPLEX AND WELL DESIGNED THAN THE BEST SUPER COMPUTER little man has built!! no accident of time and chance could evolve into a living human cell in any amount of time.===========http://www.awmi.net/tv/2014/week29 ==2014 TV Broadcasts - Week 29 Observing All Things
you know perfectly well all multicelled organisms originate from a single cell and as you have been informed before, there is no fundamental distinction between single and multicellular organisms in their evolution.
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TRY TO THINK!!! ONE LIVING HUMAN CELL IS FAR MORE COMPLEX AND WELL DESIGNED THAN THE BEST SUPER COMPUTER little man has built!! no accident of time and chance could evolve into a living human cell in any amount of time.===========http://www.awmi.net/tv/2014/week29 ==2014 TV Broadcasts - Week 29 Observing All Things
the contradiction is not from the Almighty but in your case from a single literature of indistinct origin and dubious content.
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you can create cells that can divide trillions of times a day and not have a million defects?......you should go into competition.....God wouldn't stand a chance....
Are you saying a perfect God was incapable of creating a perfect system? Well either he was unable or unwilling. Seems that is the only conclusion.
nope....I'm saying there may be a perfectly good reason for cells to have the capacity to divide in non uniform ways.....such as adapting to changing environments.....not to mention saying that you've done a jack shit poor job so far of coming up with a more satisfactory method of reproduction......
Are you saying a perfect God was incapable of creating a perfect system? Well either he was unable or unwilling. Seems that is the only conclusion.
nope....I'm saying there may be a perfectly good reason for cells to have the capacity to divide in non uniform ways.....such as adapting to changing environments.....not to mention saying that you've done a jack shit poor job so far of coming up with a more satisfactory method of reproduction......
Got it. The lord makes millions of mistakes and is atoned for these monumental errors by the occasionally superior mutant which has to come about because his original design was not adequate for changing circumstances.. Not to mention that millions of species, unable to change, became inadequate and hence became extinct.
Since god is supposedly omniscient and omnipotent he should have had the ability to produce a working design, especially since he knew what was coming.
Is chaos beginning to make more sense to you?
A good friend of mine is an engineer - a rocket scientist to be more specific. He graduated at the top of his class at UIUC back in the ought-70's.
He once lamented about the uselessness of sleep. He said that sleep deprives him of productivity.
nope....I'm saying there may be a perfectly good reason for cells to have the capacity to divide in non uniform ways.....such as adapting to changing environments.....not to mention saying that you've done a jack shit poor job so far of coming up with a more satisfactory method of reproduction......
Got it. The lord makes millions of mistakes and is atoned for these monumental errors by the occasionally superior mutant which has to come about because his original design was not adequate for changing circumstances.. Not to mention that millions of species, unable to change, became inadequate and hence became extinct.
Since god is supposedly omniscient and omnipotent he should have had the ability to produce a working design, especially since he knew what was coming.
Is chaos beginning to make more sense to you?
you got it all wrong!! GOD ORIGINAL CREATION WAS PERFECT,IT WAS MAN'S CHOICE TO LIVE IN SIN AND REJECT GOD'S LOVE that brought sickness,pain,ruin and death,none of which were on earth until man's choice to live in sin!!!
nope....I'm saying there may be a perfectly good reason for cells to have the capacity to divide in non uniform ways.....such as adapting to changing environments.....not to mention saying that you've done a jack shit poor job so far of coming up with a more satisfactory method of reproduction......
Got it. The lord makes millions of mistakes and is atoned for these monumental errors by the occasionally superior mutant which has to come about because his original design was not adequate for changing circumstances.. Not to mention that millions of species, unable to change, became inadequate and hence became extinct.
Since god is supposedly omniscient and omnipotent he should have had the ability to produce a working design, especially since he knew what was coming.
Is chaos beginning to make more sense to you?
you got it all wrong!! GOD ORIGINAL CREATION WAS PERFECT,IT WAS MAN'S CHOICE TO LIVE IN SIN AND REJECT GOD'S LOVE that brought sickness,pain,ruin and death,none of which were on earth until man's choice to live in sin!!!
A good friend of mine is an engineer - a rocket scientist to be more specific. He graduated at the top of his class at UIUC back in the ought-70's.
He once lamented about the uselessness of sleep. He said that sleep deprives him of productivity.
Most of man's greatest ideas come to him in sleep!!! WISE UP AND GET SOME SLEEP!!!
Got it. The lord makes millions of mistakes and is atoned for these monumental errors by the occasionally superior mutant which has to come about because his original design was not adequate for changing circumstances.. Not to mention that millions of species, unable to change, became inadequate and hence became extinct.
Since god is supposedly omniscient and omnipotent he should have had the ability to produce a working design, especially since he knew what was coming.
Is chaos beginning to make more sense to you?
you got it all wrong!! GOD ORIGINAL CREATION WAS PERFECT,IT WAS MAN'S CHOICE TO LIVE IN SIN AND REJECT GOD'S LOVE that brought sickness,pain,ruin and death,none of which were on earth until man's choice to live in sin!!!
Supposedly god made man. God is supposedly perfect. God is supposedly omniscient and omnipotent. That means he knows the future. Therefore he had to know that man would sin and that he built that option into the system. Therefore man had no choice at all.
Free choice is both the biggest cop out and the stupidest theory ever built into a religion.
When you can't figure out why God is such a screw up................blame man.
We evolved from a common ancestor.
The counter would be that God just reused other body plans. Not logical certainly but not impossible. God could certainly have been more creative since he didn't need to have not only functional but advantageous intermediate steps as is required of evolution. He could have made us with wheels for instance.
The really REALLY damning thing about our anatomy and god as a creator is that nothing on the face of the earth breeds true. Every species, including us, is susceptible to birth defects. Some good, some are improvements and thereby evolution but the overwhelming majority are bad. Defects in every sense of the word and there are millions of them every year. A very small percentage you say? Great! Tell that to the millions of people who receive them.
This is god's handiwork? Were I god, with god's powers I would not want to claim man as the zenith of my creative ability.
you can create cells that can divide trillions of times a day and not have a million defects?......you should go into competition.....God wouldn't stand a chance....
A good friend of mine is an engineer - a rocket scientist to be more specific. He graduated at the top of his class at UIUC back in the ought-70's.
He once lamented about the uselessness of sleep. He said that sleep deprives him of productivity.
First man was created perfect but his choice to live in sin brought ruin and death to all creation, but JESUS IS RETURNING VERY SOON AND he WILL RE-NEW CREATION BACK TO PERFECTION.
Had man been created perfect he would be incapable of sin.
???....perfect for what purpose?.....certainly nothing that required free will......
A good friend of mine is an engineer - a rocket scientist to be more specific. He graduated at the top of his class at UIUC back in the ought-70's.
He once lamented about the uselessness of sleep. He said that sleep deprives him of productivity.
Most of man's greatest ideas come to him in sleep!!! WISE UP AND GET SOME SLEEP!!!
Maybe so but the question is simply, WHY? There appears to be no good answer and it is certainly less than grade A engineering.
Had man been created perfect he would be incapable of sin.
???....perfect for what purpose?.....certainly nothing that required free will......
Perfection is to be valued only if it is created by free will? That's an odd thought.
Most of man's greatest ideas come to him in sleep!!! WISE UP AND GET SOME SLEEP!!!
Maybe so but the question is simply, WHY? There appears to be no good answer and it is certainly less than grade A engineering.
There appears to be no good answer ...
non you are willing to accept, Live Oaks live hundreds of years, four seasons per year - and a wink for sleep ?
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