What are the options for those like me?

[g5000]

Bill Clinton.

George W. Bush.

Barack Obama.

Donald Trump/Hillary Clinton.

How's that "lesser of two evils" been working out for you, retards?

Are you getting more and more evil choices? Yep.

FIGURE IT OUT, IDIOTS!


See post 46.

 

[g5000]

(if the score ends up zero to zero, don't vote)

No. You must vote.

To find out who to vote for if the score ends up zero to zero, see post 46.

 

[Flopper]

Hillary is so corrupt she can't be trusted to run my household budget let alone the country.
Trump is only in it for his own entertainment & possibly his wallet.

Where do I go? Third party is a dead end. Do I just pack my bags & go home so to speak? Cross my fingers & hope our economy survives the next 4 years?

I truly have no idea where to focus my attention. Up to this point I have focused on anti Trump shit in a desperate attempt to see a change at our convention to see help for the down ballets but I'm beginning to see that is a lost cause too. Plus it's making me hated here by both sides rather than just one.

Sucks to be in this jar of sour pickles

Make a list of your 10 most important issues. Then make a column for Clinton and a column for Trump.

Take each issue 1 by 1. Give each candidate a score of 0 to 10 based on how much you believe that candidate will help you on that issue, 10 being the most, 0 being the least.

Add up the columns. Vote for the one with the highest score.

(if the score ends up zero to zero, don't vote)

I don't think either candidate has a magical bag of solutions for any of the ten most important issues. I will be happy if the next president keeps us out of a major war, is able to provide as much protection against terrorism in the US as the last president, and keeps us out a recession. I think Hillary can do that. For Trump, war, recession, and terrorist attacks would be just the cost of doing business. In fact, I think there is nothing Trump would like to see more than another 911. It gave Bush a 90% approval rating.

 

[bendog]

Personally speaking, I'm reading about a resurgence of the Klan. Costume parties, guns and barbeque are all draws for me.

 

[Flash]

Either don't vote for either one or vote for the lesser of two evils.

Wrong! Wrong wrong wrong wrong WRONG!

See post 46.

Keep doing what you have always done, and you will keep getting what you always got.

If we continue to vote for Liberals we will continue to have this big destructive government that we have now ,which is robbing most of America of its soul, wealth and liberty not to mention security.

I have stopped voting for Liberals even when they call themselves Republicans.

Of course somebody else may very well say that one candidate will be less of a disaster than another. Like in the case we see now with Trump being preferable to that idiot Crooked Hillary.

I personally will not participate in bringing bad government to power. However, I reserve the right in a really close election to cast a vote to deny the office to that shithead Crooked Hillary. Of course that is just for spite because she is such a dishonest asshole

 

[dblack]

Hillary is so corrupt she can't be trusted to run my household budget let alone the country.
Trump is only in it for his own entertainment & possibly his wallet.

Where do I go? Third party is a dead end. Do I just pack my bags & go home so to speak? Cross my fingers & hope our economy survives the next 4 years?

I truly have no idea where to focus my attention. Up to this point I have focused on anti Trump shit in a desperate attempt to see a change at our convention to see help for the down ballets but I'm beginning to see that is a lost cause too. Plus it's making me hated here by both sides rather than just one.

Sucks to be in this jar of sour pickles

You vote 3rd party or write in if you want to send a message to republicans that they need to select a qualified candidate. You may consider that a vote for Hillary.

You might also do that if you want to send a message to Democrats that they need to select a decent candidate. You may consider that a vote for Trump.

 

[SwimExpert]

Hillary is so corrupt she can't be trusted to run my household budget let alone the country.
Trump is only in it for his own entertainment & possibly his wallet.

Where do I go? Third party is a dead end. Do I just pack my bags & go home so to speak? Cross my fingers & hope our economy survives the next 4 years?

I truly have no idea where to focus my attention. Up to this point I have focused on anti Trump shit in a desperate attempt to see a change at our convention to see help for the down ballets but I'm beginning to see that is a lost cause too. Plus it's making me hated here by both sides rather than just one.

Sucks to be in this jar of sour pickles

Your only option is to do the right thing. Vote for the best candidate available. Swim Expert for President 2016

 

[CowboyTed]

Hillary is so corrupt she can't be trusted to run my household budget let alone the country.
Trump is only in it for his own entertainment & possibly his wallet.

Where do I go? Third party is a dead end. Do I just pack my bags & go home so to speak? Cross my fingers & hope our economy survives the next 4 years?

I truly have no idea where to focus my attention. Up to this point I have focused on anti Trump shit in a desperate attempt to see a change at our convention to see help for the down ballets but I'm beginning to see that is a lost cause too. Plus it's making me hated here by both sides rather than just one.

Sucks to be in this jar of sour pickles

Grampa,

While you might not like Hillery's policies...

Where is the corruption coming from? The far RW nutters have throwing shit at her for years and there is nothing there... Even in the Email thing she is only as guilty as the three Sec. of State before her...

You seriously think that if the GOP had actually anything on her they would be holding back? Truth is this is the most vetted politician ever to run for president, because since very early in the Clinton administration we have known she was going to run...

I expect Hillary's presidency will pretty much like Bill's... Fisical sound, spending money in America and not down a hole in the ME, stable conditions so business can thrive... What's wrong with that...

Will she get election reform? Probably not, turkeys (congress) don't vote for christmas..

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

Just because Republicans have thrown everything plus the kitchen sink at Hillary, that does not make her corrupt. Has she done some things that are questionable? Yes, but so have most politicians. None of those things are worthy of putting her in the corrupt category. When we look at those who run for the office of president, we can pretty much assume that they all are narcissists to some extent. That doesn't bother me either, so long as they at least have the best interest of the country at heart. When I look at Trump and Hillary, I see Hillary as wanting to do what is best for America. When I look at Trump, I see a man who is playing a game and wants to win really bad but really doesn't care much about America. In the end, if Hillary wins, she will move to the center, because that is where she is comfortable. As a senator, she worked well with many Republicans, and I suspect she would work well with them again as president, so long as they don't try to stand against her every move as they did with Obama. If I were you, I would vote for Hillary. The more Republican support she gets, the more she will realize that she should stay toward the center. This will pull her away from the crazy Sanders' supporters who think she's a Republican anyway. Last of all, support your Republican Senator and Congressman, if that is what you see as being best.

If Hillary gets in, she will load the court with Commie leftists judges that will take our firearm rights away, not to mention allow her to get away with murder.

Think we have an immigration problem now? You ain't seen noting yet if Hillary gets in.

 

[bendog]

Bill Clinton.

George W. Bush.

Barack Obama.

Donald Trump/Hillary Clinton.

How's that "lesser of two evils" been working out for you, retards?

Are you getting more and more evil choices? Yep.

FIGURE IT OUT, IDIOTS!


See post 46.

I see your point, but I was ok with Slick, even though I admired HW as a man. And I think Obama was right for the time. He saw himself as "transformational," but he's really transitional.

 

[bendog]

Just because Republicans have thrown everything plus the kitchen sink at Hillary, that does not make her corrupt. Has she done some things that are questionable? Yes, but so have most politicians. None of those things are worthy of putting her in the corrupt category. When we look at those who run for the office of president, we can pretty much assume that they all are narcissists to some extent. That doesn't bother me either, so long as they at least have the best interest of the country at heart. When I look at Trump and Hillary, I see Hillary as wanting to do what is best for America. When I look at Trump, I see a man who is playing a game and wants to win really bad but really doesn't care much about America. In the end, if Hillary wins, she will move to the center, because that is where she is comfortable. As a senator, she worked well with many Republicans, and I suspect she would work well with them again as president, so long as they don't try to stand against her every move as they did with Obama. If I were you, I would vote for Hillary. The more Republican support she gets, the more she will realize that she should stay toward the center. This will pull her away from the crazy Sanders' supporters who think she's a Republican anyway. Last of all, support your Republican Senator and Congressman, if that is what you see as being best.

If Hillary gets in, she will load the court with Commie leftists judges that will take our firearm rights away, not to mention allow her to get away with murder.

Think we have an immigration problem now? You ain't seen noting yet if Hillary gets in.

What immigration problem? More illegal workers are leaving than coming in. We need to increase our intake of skilled immigrants ... both parties actually agree on that.

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

What immigration problem? More illegal workers are leaving than coming in. We need to increase our intake of skilled immigrants ... both parties actually agree on that.

Obviously the Republican constituency doesn't, that's why they nominated Trump; because he is the only one with a strict message of doing something about keeping foreigners out of this country.

 

[bendog]

What immigration problem? More illegal workers are leaving than coming in. We need to increase our intake of skilled immigrants ... both parties actually agree on that.

Obviously the Republican constituency doesn't, that's why they nominated Trump; because he is the only one with a strict message of doing something about keeping foreigners out of this country.

well, since more are leaving than coming, I have to say that speaks of those who voted for him on that issue.

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

well, since more are leaving than coming, I have to say that speaks of those who voted for him on that issue.

I seriously doubt more are leaving than coming. That might have been true in the worst part of the recession, but not today.

 

[Flopper]

Just because Republicans have thrown everything plus the kitchen sink at Hillary, that does not make her corrupt. Has she done some things that are questionable? Yes, but so have most politicians. None of those things are worthy of putting her in the corrupt category. When we look at those who run for the office of president, we can pretty much assume that they all are narcissists to some extent. That doesn't bother me either, so long as they at least have the best interest of the country at heart. When I look at Trump and Hillary, I see Hillary as wanting to do what is best for America. When I look at Trump, I see a man who is playing a game and wants to win really bad but really doesn't care much about America. In the end, if Hillary wins, she will move to the center, because that is where she is comfortable. As a senator, she worked well with many Republicans, and I suspect she would work well with them again as president, so long as they don't try to stand against her every move as they did with Obama. If I were you, I would vote for Hillary. The more Republican support she gets, the more she will realize that she should stay toward the center. This will pull her away from the crazy Sanders' supporters who think she's a Republican anyway. Last of all, support your Republican Senator and Congressman, if that is what you see as being best.

If Hillary gets in, she will load the court with Commie leftists judges that will take our firearm rights away, not to mention allow her to get away with murder.

Think we have an immigration problem now? You ain't seen noting yet if Hillary gets in.

If Hillary gets in, I would expect the Senate would do with her nominees what they are doing with Obama's nominee. The most likely retirees over the next 4 years are Ginsberg 83, Kennedy 79, and Breyer, 77 all left leaning judges. If any one of these retire and the Senate does nothing, the court becomes more conservative. Senate Republicans are far more interested in a conservative leaning court than they are fully staffed court.

 

[auditor0007]

Just because Republicans have thrown everything plus the kitchen sink at Hillary, that does not make her corrupt. Has she done some things that are questionable? Yes, but so have most politicians. None of those things are worthy of putting her in the corrupt category. When we look at those who run for the office of president, we can pretty much assume that they all are narcissists to some extent. That doesn't bother me either, so long as they at least have the best interest of the country at heart. When I look at Trump and Hillary, I see Hillary as wanting to do what is best for America. When I look at Trump, I see a man who is playing a game and wants to win really bad but really doesn't care much about America. In the end, if Hillary wins, she will move to the center, because that is where she is comfortable. As a senator, she worked well with many Republicans, and I suspect she would work well with them again as president, so long as they don't try to stand against her every move as they did with Obama. If I were you, I would vote for Hillary. The more Republican support she gets, the more she will realize that she should stay toward the center. This will pull her away from the crazy Sanders' supporters who think she's a Republican anyway. Last of all, support your Republican Senator and Congressman, if that is what you see as being best.

If Hillary gets in, she will load the court with Commie leftists judges that will take our firearm rights away, not to mention allow her to get away with murder.

Think we have an immigration problem now? You ain't seen noting yet if Hillary gets in.

Just like Obama did.

 

[P@triot]

Back in the 60's Trump would have been the answer to the radical left and the uncertain right 's political future but alas the radical left morphed into the establishment left wing socialists and the uncertain right morphed into the ....uncertain right. Trump is taking a cut in salary to become president so he ain't in it to pad his wallet.

Are you an idiot? Trump isn't taking any cut. His companies will continue to exist and generate revenue for him when he's not bankrupting them.

Trump is in it for the power. He's a repulsive megalomaniac. Is he better than Hitlery Clinton? Of course. She's an equally power-hungry megalomaniac. But at least Trump is composed and semi-rational while Hitlery is an irrational lunatic.

But....in the end....that's like saying Adolf Hitler is better than Saddam Hussein because he didn't pull German women off the streets and brutal rape them. Both are an awful choice.

 

[SwimExpert]

But at least Trump is composed and semi-rational

Wut?

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

Just like Obama did.

Yep, just like DumBama did. HIs only problem is he didn't have enough Commie leftists to change the court majority--Hillary will.

Now if the court were left leaning during his term, our country would be overrun with illegal immigrants, they would be able to vote, we would have no gun rights, and the Democrats would finally secure a one-party country for generations to come.

That's what we are facing here.

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

If Hillary gets in, I would expect the Senate would do with her nominees what they are doing with Obama's nominee. The most likely retirees over the next 4 years are Ginsberg 83, Kennedy 79, and Breyer, 77 all left leaning judges. If any one of these retire and the Senate does nothing, the court becomes more conservative. Senate Republicans are far more interested in a conservative leaning court than they are fully staffed court.

Absolutely we are.