What happens when your leader is a prolific liar

[bendog]

Sorry.
But you and your ilk lost credibility when you nominated Hillary and never accepted Trump as the duly elected President.

He, didn't accept us, he never tried to join the nation, he called us the enemy, from the day he won.

Blaming us, for his constant moves to divide us from the get go, is only your rose colored glasses, view.

Made-up B.S. on your part.

Trump has always pitted people against one another. It's why he has such high turnover in the White House. He pits aides against one another, or against his family, and then fires the loser. He's done the same with the nation. Trump wakes up every morning looking for someone to blame and attack. And his deranged followers parrot his latest "enemies" list: the mainstream media, the US intelligence agencies, the FBI, anyone who disagrees with him, Muslims, Democrats, Iran. Every day it's a different target.

Trump and Pompeo are now claiming that they had "complelling intelligence" that the Iranians were planning an "imminent attack" on Americans and he had to be killed to prevent that attack. This statement begs a couple of questions: 1. Details of this "thwarted attack" haven't been very quick in coming, which would lead one to believe they're lying; and 2. How is it that Trump is suddenly believing the CIA or the FBI on their intelligence since he has been utterly denying their findings since the day he took office?

Enquiring mind want to know!!!!

How does killing one man prevent an “imminent attack”?

Why did Obabble kill bin Laden?

Well, if W had killed Osama in Afghan before the 9-11 attacks took place, perhaps they could have been stopped. But really the FBI knew people were already in the US planning some attack, but they couldn't find them. The FBI might even have know airliners were possibly involved. Still, taking "the shot" at any of them would have been justified.

I think your cheap shot at Obama is just a deflection ... and those shots are notoriously difficult to make accurately

 

[Dragonlady]

Sorry.
But you and your ilk lost credibility when you nominated Hillary and never accepted Trump as the duly elected President.

He, didn't accept us, he never tried to join the nation, he called us the enemy, from the day he won.

Blaming us, for his constant moves to divide us from the get go, is only your rose colored glasses, view.

Made-up B.S. on your part.

Trump has always pitted people against one another. It's why he has such high turnover in the White House. He pits aides against one another, or against his family, and then fires the loser. He's done the same with the nation. Trump wakes up every morning looking for someone to blame and attack. And his deranged followers parrot his latest "enemies" list: the mainstream media, the US intelligence agencies, the FBI, anyone who disagrees with him, Muslims, Democrats, Iran. Every day it's a different target.

Trump and Pompeo are now claiming that they had "complelling intelligence" that the Iranians were planning an "imminent attack" on Americans and he had to be killed to prevent that attack. This statement begs a couple of questions: 1. Details of this "thwarted attack" haven't been very quick in coming, which would lead one to believe they're lying; and 2. How is it that Trump is suddenly believing the CIA or the FBI on their intelligence since he has been utterly denying their findings since the day he took office?

Enquiring mind want to know!!!!

How does killing one man prevent an “imminent attack”?

Why did Obabble kill bin Laden?

Bin Laden was not an official in any government, and was the self-admitted leader and chief financier of a terrorist organization. The Obama administration had hunted down and killed all of his leaders and then took out a self-admitted criminal terrorist - after first getting permission from the Pakistani's to go in and kill him. Bin Laden was the #1 wanted terrorist in the world. None of this applies to the Iranian that Trump decided to murder in cold blood.


All done by the book.

 

[rightwinger]

Sorry.
But you and your ilk lost credibility when you nominated Hillary and never accepted Trump as the duly elected President.

He, didn't accept us, he never tried to join the nation, he called us the enemy, from the day he won.

Blaming us, for his constant moves to divide us from the get go, is only your rose colored glasses, view.

Made-up B.S. on your part.

Trump has always pitted people against one another. It's why he has such high turnover in the White House. He pits aides against one another, or against his family, and then fires the loser. He's done the same with the nation. Trump wakes up every morning looking for someone to blame and attack. And his deranged followers parrot his latest "enemies" list: the mainstream media, the US intelligence agencies, the FBI, anyone who disagrees with him, Muslims, Democrats, Iran. Every day it's a different target.

Trump and Pompeo are now claiming that they had "complelling intelligence" that the Iranians were planning an "imminent attack" on Americans and he had to be killed to prevent that attack. This statement begs a couple of questions: 1. Details of this "thwarted attack" haven't been very quick in coming, which would lead one to believe they're lying; and 2. How is it that Trump is suddenly believing the CIA or the FBI on their intelligence since he has been utterly denying their findings since the day he took office?

Enquiring mind want to know!!!!

How does killing one man prevent an “imminent attack”?

Why did Obabble kill bin Laden?

That was after the attacks

There is no evidence that killing bin Laden would have prevented the 9-11 attacks

Same with Solimani

How will killing him prevent attacks ?

 

[rightwinger]

What damage can a few harmless fibs do? It’s just his nature.
If a President wants support for bringing his country to war, he must have credibility.
When he describes an imminent threat, people must believe that threat to send their sons and daughters to war

Skepticism mounts over evidence of 'imminent' threat that Trump says justified Soleimani killing - CNNPolitics

Thankfully obummer is no longer president and we're all trying to forget that assole ever happened to this country.

<sob> But.....but....What about Owebama!

 

[bendog]

He, didn't accept us, he never tried to join the nation, he called us the enemy, from the day he won.

Blaming us, for his constant moves to divide us from the get go, is only your rose colored glasses, view.

Made-up B.S. on your part.

Trump has always pitted people against one another. It's why he has such high turnover in the White House. He pits aides against one another, or against his family, and then fires the loser. He's done the same with the nation. Trump wakes up every morning looking for someone to blame and attack. And his deranged followers parrot his latest "enemies" list: the mainstream media, the US intelligence agencies, the FBI, anyone who disagrees with him, Muslims, Democrats, Iran. Every day it's a different target.

Trump and Pompeo are now claiming that they had "complelling intelligence" that the Iranians were planning an "imminent attack" on Americans and he had to be killed to prevent that attack. This statement begs a couple of questions: 1. Details of this "thwarted attack" haven't been very quick in coming, which would lead one to believe they're lying; and 2. How is it that Trump is suddenly believing the CIA or the FBI on their intelligence since he has been utterly denying their findings since the day he took office?

Enquiring mind want to know!!!!

How does killing one man prevent an “imminent attack”?

Why did Obabble kill bin Laden?

That was after the attacks

There is no evidence that killing bin Laden would have prevented the 9-11 attacks

Same with Solimani

How will killing him prevent attacks ?

Well we don't know if Soleimani had attacks planned. And really would anyone have complained it Bill Clintons attack had killed bin laden.

But the point is that TRUMP contends near term attacks necessitated killing the guy. No doubt he had American and other blood on his hands. But our killing him is going to have consequences … including losing our Iraq bases. Trump's claiming "necessity."

Personally, I'd call bullshit and see what Trump's got.

 

[rightwinger]

Made-up B.S. on your part.

Trump has always pitted people against one another. It's why he has such high turnover in the White House. He pits aides against one another, or against his family, and then fires the loser. He's done the same with the nation. Trump wakes up every morning looking for someone to blame and attack. And his deranged followers parrot his latest "enemies" list: the mainstream media, the US intelligence agencies, the FBI, anyone who disagrees with him, Muslims, Democrats, Iran. Every day it's a different target.

Trump and Pompeo are now claiming that they had "complelling intelligence" that the Iranians were planning an "imminent attack" on Americans and he had to be killed to prevent that attack. This statement begs a couple of questions: 1. Details of this "thwarted attack" haven't been very quick in coming, which would lead one to believe they're lying; and 2. How is it that Trump is suddenly believing the CIA or the FBI on their intelligence since he has been utterly denying their findings since the day he took office?

Enquiring mind want to know!!!!

How does killing one man prevent an “imminent attack”?

Why did Obabble kill bin Laden?

That was after the attacks

There is no evidence that killing bin Laden would have prevented the 9-11 attacks

Same with Solimani

How will killing him prevent attacks ?

Well we don't know if Soleimani had attacks planned. And really would anyone have complained it Bill Clintons attack had killed bin laden.

But the point is that TRUMP contends near term attacks necessitated killing the guy. No doubt he had American and other blood on his hands. But our killing him is going to have consequences … including losing our Iraq bases. Trump's claiming "necessity."

Personally, I'd call bullshit and see what Trump's got.

And that is where we stand with President Trump
Whatever he claims is met with skepticism. He has not earned a benefit of the doubt

 

[Dragonlady]

Made-up B.S. on your part.

Trump has always pitted people against one another. It's why he has such high turnover in the White House. He pits aides against one another, or against his family, and then fires the loser. He's done the same with the nation. Trump wakes up every morning looking for someone to blame and attack. And his deranged followers parrot his latest "enemies" list: the mainstream media, the US intelligence agencies, the FBI, anyone who disagrees with him, Muslims, Democrats, Iran. Every day it's a different target.

Trump and Pompeo are now claiming that they had "complelling intelligence" that the Iranians were planning an "imminent attack" on Americans and he had to be killed to prevent that attack. This statement begs a couple of questions: 1. Details of this "thwarted attack" haven't been very quick in coming, which would lead one to believe they're lying; and 2. How is it that Trump is suddenly believing the CIA or the FBI on their intelligence since he has been utterly denying their findings since the day he took office?

Enquiring mind want to know!!!!

How does killing one man prevent an “imminent attack”?

Why did Obabble kill bin Laden?

That was after the attacks

There is no evidence that killing bin Laden would have prevented the 9-11 attacks

Same with Solimani

How will killing him prevent attacks ?

Well we don't know if Soleimani had attacks planned. And really would anyone have complained it Bill Clintons attack had killed bin laden.

But the point is that TRUMP contends near term attacks necessitated killing the guy. No doubt he had American and other blood on his hands. But our killing him is going to have consequences … including losing our Iraq bases. Trump's claiming "necessity."

Personally, I'd call bullshit and see what Trump's got.

In fact, conservatives have long claimed that Clinton had opportunities to take out Bin Laden after the first World Trade Centre bombing, and have heavily criticized Clinton for not taking him out when they had the chance.

 

[bendog]

Trump has always pitted people against one another. It's why he has such high turnover in the White House. He pits aides against one another, or against his family, and then fires the loser. He's done the same with the nation. Trump wakes up every morning looking for someone to blame and attack. And his deranged followers parrot his latest "enemies" list: the mainstream media, the US intelligence agencies, the FBI, anyone who disagrees with him, Muslims, Democrats, Iran. Every day it's a different target.

Trump and Pompeo are now claiming that they had "complelling intelligence" that the Iranians were planning an "imminent attack" on Americans and he had to be killed to prevent that attack. This statement begs a couple of questions: 1. Details of this "thwarted attack" haven't been very quick in coming, which would lead one to believe they're lying; and 2. How is it that Trump is suddenly believing the CIA or the FBI on their intelligence since he has been utterly denying their findings since the day he took office?

Enquiring mind want to know!!!!

How does killing one man prevent an “imminent attack”?

Why did Obabble kill bin Laden?

That was after the attacks

There is no evidence that killing bin Laden would have prevented the 9-11 attacks

Same with Solimani

How will killing him prevent attacks ?

Well we don't know if Soleimani had attacks planned. And really would anyone have complained it Bill Clintons attack had killed bin laden.

But the point is that TRUMP contends near term attacks necessitated killing the guy. No doubt he had American and other blood on his hands. But our killing him is going to have consequences … including losing our Iraq bases. Trump's claiming "necessity."

Personally, I'd call bullshit and see what Trump's got.

And that is where we stand with President Trump
Whatever he claims is met with skepticism. He has not earned a benefit of the doubt

I didn't trust W either, but I was in a minority and most politicians were afraid to call bullshit.

I wouldn't say Obama did a good job in Iraq or Afghan, but he did notify the Gang of 8 before sending in the Seals for Osama.

 

[Dana7360]

Well of course they're upholding the Constitution, they're conservatives... ... and nope, that's on your mind only

The rest .. I could care less either way .. just another democrat bimbo eruption and umpteenth phony investigation more than likely..

i'm talking judges ruling against trump's agenda despite being appointed by him.

Five times Republican-appointed judges ruled against President Trump

That's fine .. as long as they're not liberal activist judges I'm all in..

(I wont turn off my add blocker so I can't use your link) but thanks.
.

it was an USA today article. <psssst> tee hee - you would consider some of the decisions against trump to be quite liberal.

playtime:

" I could have defended America but I-Ran!"

why haven't you enlisted twiggy?

Because a person needs to be an American citizen and actually live here in America to enlist in our armed forces.

The person you replied to is a russian troll. They don't live here in America and isn't a citizen of our nation.

 

[bendog]

Trump has always pitted people against one another. It's why he has such high turnover in the White House. He pits aides against one another, or against his family, and then fires the loser. He's done the same with the nation. Trump wakes up every morning looking for someone to blame and attack. And his deranged followers parrot his latest "enemies" list: the mainstream media, the US intelligence agencies, the FBI, anyone who disagrees with him, Muslims, Democrats, Iran. Every day it's a different target.

Trump and Pompeo are now claiming that they had "complelling intelligence" that the Iranians were planning an "imminent attack" on Americans and he had to be killed to prevent that attack. This statement begs a couple of questions: 1. Details of this "thwarted attack" haven't been very quick in coming, which would lead one to believe they're lying; and 2. How is it that Trump is suddenly believing the CIA or the FBI on their intelligence since he has been utterly denying their findings since the day he took office?

Enquiring mind want to know!!!!

How does killing one man prevent an “imminent attack”?

Why did Obabble kill bin Laden?

That was after the attacks

There is no evidence that killing bin Laden would have prevented the 9-11 attacks

Same with Solimani

How will killing him prevent attacks ?

Well we don't know if Soleimani had attacks planned. And really would anyone have complained it Bill Clintons attack had killed bin laden.

But the point is that TRUMP contends near term attacks necessitated killing the guy. No doubt he had American and other blood on his hands. But our killing him is going to have consequences … including losing our Iraq bases. Trump's claiming "necessity."

Personally, I'd call bullshit and see what Trump's got.

In fact, conservatives have long claimed that Clinton had opportunities to take out Bin Laden after the first World Trade Centre bombing, and have heavily criticized Clinton for not taking him out when they had the chance.

And I believe Clinton said post-presidency that had he known of Osama's plans he'd have tried harder, and he did shoot some missles his way. I think Clinton was saying that if he'd known, he'd have sent Seals in before the 2000 elections.

 

[Dragonlady]

Your source?

You believe MSNBC is more credible?

Better than Hannity.

Not even close.

hannity was threatened with a law suit by the family of seth rich if he didn't cease & desist his bullshit lying that hillary offed him, & an appeals court said it can still proceed.

It hasn't been demonstrated the Hillary didn't of Seth Rich.
FOX is still 1000 times more credible than MSNBC.

Yes, it HAS been demonstrated that Seth Rich had NOTHING to do with the DNC hacking. Fox retracted the story and apologized to the family for Hannity's lies. A real news network would have fired Hannity for broadcasting something he knew was a lie.

 

[rightwinger]

How does killing one man prevent an “imminent attack”?

Why did Obabble kill bin Laden?

That was after the attacks

There is no evidence that killing bin Laden would have prevented the 9-11 attacks

Same with Solimani

How will killing him prevent attacks ?

Well we don't know if Soleimani had attacks planned. And really would anyone have complained it Bill Clintons attack had killed bin laden.

But the point is that TRUMP contends near term attacks necessitated killing the guy. No doubt he had American and other blood on his hands. But our killing him is going to have consequences … including losing our Iraq bases. Trump's claiming "necessity."

Personally, I'd call bullshit and see what Trump's got.

In fact, conservatives have long claimed that Clinton had opportunities to take out Bin Laden after the first World Trade Centre bombing, and have heavily criticized Clinton for not taking him out when they had the chance.

And I believe Clinton said post-presidency that had he known of Osama's plans he'd have tried harder, and he did shoot some missles his way. I think Clinton was saying that if he'd known, he'd have sent Seals in before the 2000 elections.

I believe that Clinton said when he learned of the collateral damage to nearby civilians, he decided it was not worth it

 

[boedicca]

He, didn't accept us, he never tried to join the nation, he called us the enemy, from the day he won.

Blaming us, for his constant moves to divide us from the get go, is only your rose colored glasses, view.

Made-up B.S. on your part.

Trump has always pitted people against one another. It's why he has such high turnover in the White House. He pits aides against one another, or against his family, and then fires the loser. He's done the same with the nation. Trump wakes up every morning looking for someone to blame and attack. And his deranged followers parrot his latest "enemies" list: the mainstream media, the US intelligence agencies, the FBI, anyone who disagrees with him, Muslims, Democrats, Iran. Every day it's a different target.

Trump and Pompeo are now claiming that they had "complelling intelligence" that the Iranians were planning an "imminent attack" on Americans and he had to be killed to prevent that attack. This statement begs a couple of questions: 1. Details of this "thwarted attack" haven't been very quick in coming, which would lead one to believe they're lying; and 2. How is it that Trump is suddenly believing the CIA or the FBI on their intelligence since he has been utterly denying their findings since the day he took office?

Enquiring mind want to know!!!!

How does killing one man prevent an “imminent attack”?

Why did Obabble kill bin Laden?

Well, if W had killed Osama in Afghan before the 9-11 attacks took place, perhaps they could have been stopped. But really the FBI knew people were already in the US planning some attack, but they couldn't find them. The FBI might even have know airliners were possibly involved. Still, taking "the shot" at any of them would have been justified.

I think your cheap shot at Obama is just a deflection ... and those shots are notoriously difficult to make accurately

And the point flew right over your pinhead.

Here is is in plain words: getting your panties in a was over Trump taking out Qasem is hypocritical if you supported Obabble killing bin Laden.

 

[bripat9643]

You believe MSNBC is more credible?

Better than Hannity.

Not even close.

hannity was threatened with a law suit by the family of seth rich if he didn't cease & desist his bullshit lying that hillary offed him, & an appeals court said it can still proceed.

It hasn't been demonstrated the Hillary didn't of Seth Rich.
FOX is still 1000 times more credible than MSNBC.

Yes, it HAS been demonstrated that Seth Rich had NOTHING to do with the DNC hacking. Fox retracted the story and apologized to the family for Hannity's lies. A real news network would have fired Hannity for broadcasting something he knew was a lie.

I haven't seen the evidence. How would the family know whether Hillary had him killed?

 

[playtime]

Your source?

You believe MSNBC is more credible?

Better than Hannity.

Not even close.

hannity was threatened with a law suit by the family of seth rich if he didn't cease & desist his bullshit lying that hillary offed him, & an appeals court said it can still proceed.

It hasn't been demonstrated the Hillary didn't of Seth Rich.
FOX is still 1000 times more credible than MSNBC.

you have no rock bottom to hit when it comes to being a deplorable.

Fox News draws a lawsuit
Fast forward to May 16, 2017. Fox News reported that the FBI had proof that Rich had sent WikiLeaks "thousands of internal emails."

Fox cited an anonymous federal investigator who said the FBI had the emails between Rich and WikiLeaks. It also quoted Rod Wheeler, a private investigator who was looking into Rich’s death on behalf of Rich’s parents , as saying, "My investigation up to this point shows there was some degree of email exchange between Seth Rich and Wikileaks."

The Fox News report quoted Wheeler once more, "My investigation shows someone within the D.C. government, Democratic National Committee or Clinton team is blocking the murder investigation from going forward. That is unfortunate. Seth Rich’s murder is unsolved as a result of that."

Wheeler disputed the way he was quoted after the report aired, and two months later, on Aug. 1, 2017, Wheeler sued Fox News and others for inventing those quotes.

"Mr. Wheeler – who was the only named source quoted in the article – did not make these statements," his lawyer wrote in the filing.

Several versions of the Rich story, all based on the work of Fox News reporter Malia Zimmerman, appeared late in the evening on May 15 and throughout the day on May 16.
Seth Rich: Separating fact and speculation

5.Butowsky is a frequent contributor for Fox News and Fox Business Channel, an outspoken supporter of Donald Trump and opponent of Hillary Clinton, and a friend to former Press Secretary Sean Spicer and Chief Strategist Steve Bannon. 6.Mr. Wheeler is a former Washington D.C. Police homicide detective and current private investigative consultant, crime analyst and Fox News contributor. 7.In February 2017, Butowsky introduced himself to Mr. Wheeler and offered to bankroll an investigation into Seth Rich’s murder. Butowsky explained that he was working with Zimmerman, an investigative journalist with Fox News who was conducting her own investigation into the death of Seth Rich. 8.As it turned out, Butowsky and Zimmerman were not simply Good Samaritans attempting to solve a murder. Rather, they were interested in advancing a political agenda for the Trump Administration. Specifically, it was their aim to have Mr. Wheeler confirm that: (i) Seth Rich was responsible for the leak of DNC emails to WikiLeaks; and (ii) Seth Rich was murdered by a Democrat operative because he leaked the emails to WikiLeaks.
https://assets.documentcloud.org/documents/3906804/Seth-Rich-Fox-News.pdf

MSNBC makes no qualms about leaning left & they don't pass themselves off as 'news' & they sure don't have it in their name.

 

[playtime]

you are defending a man who tried to steal an old woman's home - bulldoze it - pave over it - so he can have a parking lot for his casino.

He tried to get her to sell. How did he "try to steal it?"

Eminent Domain

You're opposed to eminent domain?

you seem to be opposed to education. that's why trump loves you long time. the courts were opposed to donny's attempt at abusing the law. that's why he

LOST.

I'm opposed to government education, not education in general. Your biases will always end up making you look like ass.

you think i actually meant a brick & mortar school? you can easily look stuff up - learn something by researching credible non biased sites instead of swallowing whatever pablum the feed you in rw media. google is yer friend.

 

[playtime]

What damage can a few harmless fibs do? It’s just his nature.
If a President wants support for bringing his country to war, he must have credibility.
When he describes an imminent threat, people must believe that threat to send their sons and daughters to war

Skepticism mounts over evidence of 'imminent' threat that Trump says justified Soleimani killing - CNNPolitics

You don't get to keep your doctor?

I kept my doctor
So did 98 percent of Americans

Wrong. furthermore, Obama said everyone could keep their doctor, not ALMOST everyone.

the insurers didn't always follow thru.

The insurance companies are to blame? You mean Obama didn't know what the fuck he was doing?

they sure are partly to blame. obama put too much faith in bighealthcorp to do the right thing. that was his biggest mistake. & despite it all - 2018 sure proved that those that have obamacare sure wanna keep it. the town halls proved it.

 

[bripat9643]

He tried to get her to sell. How did he "try to steal it?"

Eminent Domain

You're opposed to eminent domain?

you seem to be opposed to education. that's why trump loves you long time. the courts were opposed to donny's attempt at abusing the law. that's why he

LOST.

I'm opposed to government education, not education in general. Your biases will always end up making you look like ass.

you think i actually meant a brick & mortar school? you can easily look stuff up - learn something by researching credible non biased sites instead of swallowing whatever pablum the feed you in rw media. google is yer friend.

Did I say anything about brick and mortar schools, fuckstick? I'll say it slowly so you can understand "I'M OPPOSED TO GOVERNMENT EDUCATION, not schools in general."

 

[bripat9643]

You don't get to keep your doctor?

I kept my doctor
So did 98 percent of Americans

Wrong. furthermore, Obama said everyone could keep their doctor, not ALMOST everyone.

the insurers didn't always follow thru.

The insurance companies are to blame? You mean Obama didn't know what the fuck he was doing?

they sure are partly to blame. obama put too much faith in bighealthcorp to do the right thing. that was his biggest mistake. & despite it all - 2018 sure proved that those that have obamacare sure wanna keep it. the town halls proved it.

Obama and the Dims are to blame, asshole. They're the ones with the guns, not the insurance companies, who just have to do what they're told.

 

[playtime]

Better than Hannity.

Not even close.

hannity was threatened with a law suit by the family of seth rich if he didn't cease & desist his bullshit lying that hillary offed him, & an appeals court said it can still proceed.

It hasn't been demonstrated the Hillary didn't of Seth Rich.
FOX is still 1000 times more credible than MSNBC.

Yes, it HAS been demonstrated that Seth Rich had NOTHING to do with the DNC hacking. Fox retracted the story and apologized to the family for Hannity's lies. A real news network would have fired Hannity for broadcasting something he knew was a lie.

I haven't seen the evidence. How would the family know whether Hillary had him killed?

rich's family is suing fox because of this:

Conspiracy theory about slain DNC staffer was planted by Russian intelligence, report finds
A former assistant U.S. attorney told Yahoo that U.S. intelligence officials found Russia had planted and fomented the theory.
Conspiracy theory about slain DNC staffer was planted by Russian intelligence, report finds