What I love about the God of Abraham, Isaac & Jacob

[THE LIGHT]

BTW Where's that mountain of proof your pal, The Blight, promised me you would provide to show that kids are being made to pray to Allah in public schools? You keep dancing around that one.

I'm not dancing, it's just been done to death. It IS appalling and under-reported, but I get tired of repeating myself:

http://www.usmessageboard.com/1317680-post47.html

Under reported? Don't you really mean not reported at all? You made the whole thing up. That's why you won't provide a link to a news source.

Students' Ramadan-fast assignment protested by Diana Lynne,
World Net Daily

Think Like a Muslim by Daniel Pipes, Ph.D.
New York Post

Hey, Where's Jesus? by Patrick O'Hannigan

Islam Studies Spark Lawsuit by Diana Lynne,
World Net Daily

California School Sued Over Islamic Drills by Ellen Sorokin, Washington Times

Public Schools Embrace Islam, a Shocker by Rev. Austin Miles

Upchuckin the News and the NEA by April Shenandoah,
GOP USA and Sierra Times

Textbook reads like recruitment by Tamara Henry,
USA Today

School Comes Under Fire by Michelle Locke,
Associated Press

World History Draws Criticism by Associated Press

Islam Takes Over Curriculum by Brad Dacus,
Pacific Justice Institute

Book draws parents ire by PE Press Enterprise by Maria Garcia

District Sued over Islam studies by Diana Lynne, WND

Parents Sue Byron County by Associated Press

Islamic Emphasis in Textbooks by Mark Ellis,
Assist News

Californians wearing blinders as.. by April Shenandoah,

American Partisan

Shoving Islam Down Johnny's Throat by Jamie Glazov, Ph.D.

Calif. Approved Text Promotes Islam Focus on the Family

Islamic Brainwashing Now a Part of Public Schools by JonChristian Ryter

The Wolf in Critical Thinking by Jen Shroder,
Christians Unite

Lawsuit says Muslim text not right by David Kiefer,
San Francisco Examiner

Significant Difference by Contra Costa Times

Become a Muslim Warrior by Daniel Pipes

Federal Lawsuit filed by Rev. Austin Miles

Islam Lessons Prompt Lawsuit by Kelli A.Phillips,
Contra Costa Times

No Muslim Bias by Diana Lynne, World Net Daily

Teaching Islam by NRO Rod Drehr

Islam in CA Public Schools by Allan Dobras

Islam curriculum generates protests by Barbara Curtis,
Christian Times

Islam for Kids: Required Course by David Kiefer

Parent Files Challenge to Pro-Islamic Textbook by Skyline

More Anti-Muslim Censoring by Lance Gay
Scripps Howard News Service

Thomas More Official Press Release regarding lawsuit

Textbooks: What is California to do? by Jen Shroder
GOPUSA

Coastal Crusade by Tracy Hamilton

Ph.D's and Professionals Review "Across the Centuries"

SierraTimes articles by Jen, BlessedCause founder

For the links to all these go to BlessedCause

I'm sure by now many of them may be missing

These are just the ones that happened while I was up in arms about it, and after I became aware of the coverage online.

I knew you had a few.

 

[THE LIGHT]

What do I love about the God of Abraham, Issac, and Ishmael?

He made Jesus his only son, and Mohammed his final prophet. Then he made their respective followers repeatedly massacre eachother over the course of nearly 1,400 years!

Great planning on God's part, that is!

God had to put up with Abraham's bad choice just like he has to put up with people like you and me. Satan is always trying to thwart God's plans but the good news is I've read the one true book of plans and God wins. The God of Abraham Isaac and Jacob that is. He is waiting for you to accept his gift. Trust me he loves you and wants to see the best for you. He loved us before we could ever think of loving Him. It doesn't get better than that.

 

[JenT]

I knew you had a few.

I forgot these

Are We In Denial About the Public Schools?
Lee Duigon, The Chalcedon Foundation

Terror Suspect Helped Fight Christianity NewsMax series by Wes Vernon

America's Secret Madrassas, Schools where Islam is taught Front Page News

Urban Legends Confirmation The REAL Urban Legends reluctantly must agree

Upchuckin the News and the NEA
by April Shenandoah,


And there have been countless ones since.

FrontPage Magazine keeps on it really well.

 

[JenT]

Hey Anguille, don't feel bad. Nobody believes me at first. I wouldn't believe it at first either. Hard to believe teachers can have our kids on their hands and knees in prayer to Allah speaking out loud that Allah is the only one worthy of worship and Mohammed is his prophet.

They lost the lawsuit because the child said he didn't really believe in what he was praying.

Judge ruled then its a simulation and appropriate.

Fasting too. Taking MUslim names, I even have copies of the original handouts. It's pretty unbelievable.

And all wrapped up for Hillary to negotiate with.

America was warned. I think it's too late now. President Bush pushed it back but Obama is in office now.

Prophesies, a much bigger picture has already begun moving into place.

 

[JBeukema]

BTW Where's that mountain of proof your pal, The Blight, promised me you would provide to show that kids are being made to pray to Allah in public schools? You keep dancing around that one.

I'm not dancing, it's just been done to death. It IS appalling and under-reported, but I get tired of repeating myself:

http://www.usmessageboard.com/1317680-post47.html

Under reported? Don't you really mean not reported at all? You made the whole thing up. That's why you won't provide a link to a news source.

Students' Ramadan-fast assignment protested by Diana Lynne,
World Net Daily

Think Like a Muslim by Daniel Pipes, Ph.D.
New York Post

Hey, Where's Jesus? by Patrick O'Hannigan

Islam Studies Spark Lawsuit by Diana Lynne,
World Net Daily

California School Sued Over Islamic Drills by Ellen Sorokin, Washington Times

Public Schools Embrace Islam, a Shocker by Rev. Austin Miles

Upchuckin the News and the NEA by April Shenandoah,
GOP USA and Sierra Times

Textbook reads like recruitment by Tamara Henry,
USA Today

School Comes Under Fire by Michelle Locke,
Associated Press

World History Draws Criticism by Associated Press

Islam Takes Over Curriculum by Brad Dacus,
Pacific Justice Institute

Book draws parents ire by PE Press Enterprise by Maria Garcia

District Sued over Islam studies by Diana Lynne, WND

Parents Sue Byron County by Associated Press

Islamic Emphasis in Textbooks by Mark Ellis,
Assist News

Californians wearing blinders as.. by April Shenandoah,

American Partisan

Shoving Islam Down Johnny's Throat by Jamie Glazov, Ph.D.

Calif. Approved Text Promotes Islam Focus on the Family

Islamic Brainwashing Now a Part of Public Schools by JonChristian Ryter

The Wolf in Critical Thinking by Jen Shroder,
Christians Unite

Lawsuit says Muslim text not right by David Kiefer,
San Francisco Examiner

Significant Difference by Contra Costa Times

Become a Muslim Warrior by Daniel Pipes

Federal Lawsuit filed by Rev. Austin Miles

Islam Lessons Prompt Lawsuit by Kelli A.Phillips,
Contra Costa Times

No Muslim Bias by Diana Lynne, World Net Daily

Teaching Islam by NRO Rod Drehr

Islam in CA Public Schools by Allan Dobras

Islam curriculum generates protests by Barbara Curtis,
Christian Times

Islam for Kids: Required Course by David Kiefer

Parent Files Challenge to Pro-Islamic Textbook by Skyline

More Anti-Muslim Censoring by Lance Gay
Scripps Howard News Service

Thomas More Official Press Release regarding lawsuit

Textbooks: What is California to do? by Jen Shroder
GOPUSA

Coastal Crusade by Tracy Hamilton

Ph.D's and Professionals Review "Across the Centuries"

SierraTimes articles by Jen, BlessedCause founder

For the links to all these go to BlessedCause

I'm sure by now many of them may be missing

These are just the ones that happened while I was up in arms about it, and after I became aware of the coverage online.

any plans to actually link to any of your sources?

 

[JenT]

Under reported? Don't you really mean not reported at all? You made the whole thing up. That's why you won't provide a link to a news source.

Students' Ramadan-fast assignment protested by Diana Lynne,
World Net Daily

Think Like a Muslim by Daniel Pipes, Ph.D.
New York Post

Hey, Where's Jesus? by Patrick O'Hannigan

Islam Studies Spark Lawsuit by Diana Lynne,
World Net Daily

California School Sued Over Islamic Drills by Ellen Sorokin, Washington Times

Public Schools Embrace Islam, a Shocker by Rev. Austin Miles

Upchuckin the News and the NEA by April Shenandoah,
GOP USA and Sierra Times

Textbook reads like recruitment by Tamara Henry,
USA Today

School Comes Under Fire by Michelle Locke,
Associated Press

World History Draws Criticism by Associated Press

Islam Takes Over Curriculum by Brad Dacus,
Pacific Justice Institute

Book draws parents ire by PE Press Enterprise by Maria Garcia

District Sued over Islam studies by Diana Lynne, WND

Parents Sue Byron County by Associated Press

Islamic Emphasis in Textbooks by Mark Ellis,
Assist News

Californians wearing blinders as.. by April Shenandoah,

American Partisan

Shoving Islam Down Johnny's Throat by Jamie Glazov, Ph.D.

Calif. Approved Text Promotes Islam Focus on the Family

Islamic Brainwashing Now a Part of Public Schools by JonChristian Ryter

The Wolf in Critical Thinking by Jen Shroder,
Christians Unite

Lawsuit says Muslim text not right by David Kiefer,
San Francisco Examiner

Significant Difference by Contra Costa Times

Become a Muslim Warrior by Daniel Pipes

Federal Lawsuit filed by Rev. Austin Miles

Islam Lessons Prompt Lawsuit by Kelli A.Phillips,
Contra Costa Times

No Muslim Bias by Diana Lynne, World Net Daily

Teaching Islam by NRO Rod Drehr

Islam in CA Public Schools by Allan Dobras

Islam curriculum generates protests by Barbara Curtis,
Christian Times

Islam for Kids: Required Course by David Kiefer

Parent Files Challenge to Pro-Islamic Textbook by Skyline

More Anti-Muslim Censoring by Lance Gay
Scripps Howard News Service

Thomas More Official Press Release regarding lawsuit

Textbooks: What is California to do? by Jen Shroder
GOPUSA

Coastal Crusade by Tracy Hamilton

Ph.D's and Professionals Review "Across the Centuries"

SierraTimes articles by Jen, BlessedCause founder

For the links to all these go to BlessedCause

I'm sure by now many of them may be missing

These are just the ones that happened while I was up in arms about it, and after I became aware of the coverage online.

any plans to actually link to any of your sources?

I do apologize. When all this started, I had no clue how to have a website, they weren't near as common then as they are now.

To be honest the site is HUGE but not very organized. It was put together by various friends building on what each other knew. It's a mess that I should clean up and some day I will. Maybe. Someone already gave me a new banner but I'm hesitant to use it, I love it but its a man shooting a musket and I can just imagine what the Christian right would say...sheesh

ANYWAY, some of the articles have links to the original source, some don't. But I looked up the title of the associated press one and it's still there

CJOnline.com - History course in California draws criticism for section on Islam

Again, I know, but I was very amateur when I started and the truth is, I still am. I know what I know about websites but it's limited, it's a wonder I haven't crashed the whole thing.

 

[JBeukema]

from your link:

On the Net:
State education department: http://www.cde.ca.gov/standards/history/grade7.html
Pacific Justice Institute: Pacific Justice Institute - Defending Parental Rights, Religious Freedom, employee civil liberties and more
Houghton-Mifflin: Houghton Mifflin Social Studies

not surprisingly....

The requested web page at URL http://www.cde.ca.gov/standards/history/grade7.html was not found on our web site.There is either a misspelling in the URL you entered, or the requested web page has moved or is no longer available.

The others don't even link to any actual articles or press releases

You allegedly cite one source, which claims to have gotten the article from the AP

Google can't find the article in question



So, once again you show yourself to be a liar. Evidently, no only can you never refute anything, but you have no sources for anything you ever post. This remains UNQUESTIONABLE FACT until you cite everything you have posted.

 

[Anguille]

Under reported? Don't you really mean not reported at all? You made the whole thing up. That's why you won't provide a link to a news source.

Students' Ramadan-fast assignment protested by Diana Lynne,
World Net Daily

Think Like a Muslim by Daniel Pipes, Ph.D.
New York Post

Hey, Where's Jesus? by Patrick O'Hannigan

Islam Studies Spark Lawsuit by Diana Lynne,
World Net Daily

California School Sued Over Islamic Drills by Ellen Sorokin, Washington Times

Public Schools Embrace Islam, a Shocker by Rev. Austin Miles

Upchuckin the News and the NEA by April Shenandoah,
GOP USA and Sierra Times

Textbook reads like recruitment by Tamara Henry,
USA Today

School Comes Under Fire by Michelle Locke,
Associated Press

World History Draws Criticism by Associated Press

Islam Takes Over Curriculum by Brad Dacus,
Pacific Justice Institute

Book draws parents ire by PE Press Enterprise by Maria Garcia

District Sued over Islam studies by Diana Lynne, WND

Parents Sue Byron County by Associated Press

Islamic Emphasis in Textbooks by Mark Ellis,
Assist News

Californians wearing blinders as.. by April Shenandoah,

American Partisan

Shoving Islam Down Johnny's Throat by Jamie Glazov, Ph.D.

Calif. Approved Text Promotes Islam Focus on the Family

Islamic Brainwashing Now a Part of Public Schools by JonChristian Ryter

The Wolf in Critical Thinking by Jen Shroder,
Christians Unite

Lawsuit says Muslim text not right by David Kiefer,
San Francisco Examiner

Significant Difference by Contra Costa Times

Become a Muslim Warrior by Daniel Pipes

Federal Lawsuit filed by Rev. Austin Miles

Islam Lessons Prompt Lawsuit by Kelli A.Phillips,
Contra Costa Times

No Muslim Bias by Diana Lynne, World Net Daily

Teaching Islam by NRO Rod Drehr

Islam in CA Public Schools by Allan Dobras

Islam curriculum generates protests by Barbara Curtis,
Christian Times

Islam for Kids: Required Course by David Kiefer

Parent Files Challenge to Pro-Islamic Textbook by Skyline

More Anti-Muslim Censoring by Lance Gay
Scripps Howard News Service

Thomas More Official Press Release regarding lawsuit

Textbooks: What is California to do? by Jen Shroder
GOPUSA

Coastal Crusade by Tracy Hamilton

Ph.D's and Professionals Review "Across the Centuries"

SierraTimes articles by Jen, BlessedCause founder

For the links to all these go to BlessedCause

I'm sure by now many of them may be missing

These are just the ones that happened while I was up in arms about it, and after I became aware of the coverage online.

any plans to actually link to any of your sources?

I was gonna say!! Without a link they aren't much use.
I should have specified to Jent that reliable news sources were requested.
It looks like a bunch of her stuff comes from WorldNetDaily. LOL!

 

[Anguille]

Students' Ramadan-fast assignment protested by Diana Lynne,
World Net Daily

Think Like a Muslim by Daniel Pipes, Ph.D.
New York Post

Hey, Where's Jesus? by Patrick O'Hannigan

Islam Studies Spark Lawsuit by Diana Lynne,
World Net Daily

California School Sued Over Islamic Drills by Ellen Sorokin, Washington Times

Public Schools Embrace Islam, a Shocker by Rev. Austin Miles

Upchuckin the News and the NEA by April Shenandoah,
GOP USA and Sierra Times

Textbook reads like recruitment by Tamara Henry,
USA Today

School Comes Under Fire by Michelle Locke,
Associated Press

World History Draws Criticism by Associated Press

Islam Takes Over Curriculum by Brad Dacus,
Pacific Justice Institute

Book draws parents ire by PE Press Enterprise by Maria Garcia

District Sued over Islam studies by Diana Lynne, WND

Parents Sue Byron County by Associated Press

Islamic Emphasis in Textbooks by Mark Ellis,
Assist News

Californians wearing blinders as.. by April Shenandoah,

American Partisan

Shoving Islam Down Johnny's Throat by Jamie Glazov, Ph.D.

Calif. Approved Text Promotes Islam Focus on the Family

Islamic Brainwashing Now a Part of Public Schools by JonChristian Ryter

The Wolf in Critical Thinking by Jen Shroder,
Christians Unite

Lawsuit says Muslim text not right by David Kiefer,
San Francisco Examiner

Significant Difference by Contra Costa Times

Become a Muslim Warrior by Daniel Pipes

Federal Lawsuit filed by Rev. Austin Miles

Islam Lessons Prompt Lawsuit by Kelli A.Phillips,
Contra Costa Times

No Muslim Bias by Diana Lynne, World Net Daily

Teaching Islam by NRO Rod Drehr

Islam in CA Public Schools by Allan Dobras

Islam curriculum generates protests by Barbara Curtis,
Christian Times

Islam for Kids: Required Course by David Kiefer

Parent Files Challenge to Pro-Islamic Textbook by Skyline

More Anti-Muslim Censoring by Lance Gay
Scripps Howard News Service

Thomas More Official Press Release regarding lawsuit

Textbooks: What is California to do? by Jen Shroder
GOPUSA

Coastal Crusade by Tracy Hamilton

Ph.D's and Professionals Review "Across the Centuries"

SierraTimes articles by Jen, BlessedCause founder

For the links to all these go to BlessedCause

I'm sure by now many of them may be missing

These are just the ones that happened while I was up in arms about it, and after I became aware of the coverage online.

any plans to actually link to any of your sources?

I do apologize. When all this started, I had no clue how to have a website, they weren't near as common then as they are now.

To be honest the site is HUGE but not very organized. It was put together by various friends building on what each other knew. It's a mess that I should clean up and some day I will. Maybe. Someone already gave me a new banner but I'm hesitant to use it, I love it but its a man shooting a musket and I can just imagine what the Christian right would say...sheesh

ANYWAY, some of the articles have links to the original source, some don't. But I looked up the title of the associated press one and it's still there

CJOnline.com - History course in California draws criticism for section on Islam

Again, I know, but I was very amateur when I started and the truth is, I still am. I know what I know about websites but it's limited, it's a wonder I haven't crashed the whole thing.

That AP story doesn't support in the least your claim that public school students are being made to pray to Allah.

 

[JBeukema]

So, she still refuses to cite any sources?

 

[JenT]

any plans to actually link to any of your sources?

I do apologize. When all this started, I had no clue how to have a website, they weren't near as common then as they are now.

To be honest the site is HUGE but not very organized. It was put together by various friends building on what each other knew. It's a mess that I should clean up and some day I will. Maybe. Someone already gave me a new banner but I'm hesitant to use it, I love it but its a man shooting a musket and I can just imagine what the Christian right would say...sheesh

ANYWAY, some of the articles have links to the original source, some don't. But I looked up the title of the associated press one and it's still there

CJOnline.com - History course in California draws criticism for section on Islam

Again, I know, but I was very amateur when I started and the truth is, I still am. I know what I know about websites but it's limited, it's a wonder I haven't crashed the whole thing.

That AP story doesn't support in the least your claim that public school students are being made to pray to Allah.

I was asked for news items and I gave it. The PROOF is in the court document, link at end

Page 10, Line 21:

1. Five Pillars of Islam” Activity

“The parties agree that the students were taught about the five pillars of faith and that the students were asked to role-play or perform activities that were roughly analogous to each pillar. Thus, to demonstrate the Mulsim profession of faith in Islam, the students made banners announcing their group’s city affiliation, and to demonstrate the requirement of daily prayers, Carlin read portions of poetic prayers from the Qu’ran, and students informally RECITED lines of an Islamic prayer in class. The students also gave up somethihng for a day to represent Ramadan”, etc.

The summary judgment then stipulates that these rites performed were not actual because the praying was not FIVE TIMES A DAY as required by Islam.

Much of the complaint was dismissed because the children had grauduated by the time it got to Court. This is a common defense by public schools to take allowances with our kids.

Page 12, line 22:

“Role-playing activities which are not in actuality the practice of a religion do not violate the Establishment Clause.

In addition, there is no evidence that the students performed these classsroom activities with any devotional or religious intent (Deposition stating that he did not believe that anything he had done had made him Muslim) The students’ subjective lack of spiritual intent further demonstrates that the activities in question cannot objectively be considered “religious activity” for the purposes of Lee (another case)”

Basically they can require our kids to pray to Allah but because they don’t actually BELIEVE in Allah, that makes it okay. (These are the rights of slaves).

It goes on to say that the Ten Commandments were found unconstitutional because they endorsed Christianity (Stone v Graham)) however, banners of profession of faith in Islam is for educating Islamic culture and “survive Constitutional review”

Page 18: “The plaintiffs also complain that, in the five-paragraph essay assignment critiquing Islam, (teacher) stated, “BE CAREFUL HERE – If you do not have something positive to say, don’t say anything!!!. Plaintiffs claim that this instruction had the effect of instructing students that they were required to support Islam in order to receive a good grade on the essay.

In answer to that, the Judge merely said that other Islamic activities did not require positive reflections so it didn’t matter.

Read it yourself, it’s disgusting. The California Circuit Court upheld it. The US Supreme Court refused to hear it.

Therefore it can be used in any court in the nation as precedence.
http://www.blessedcause.org/protest/Islam Ruling 12-05-03.pdf

Everybody join with me in welcoming Islam while at the same time dissing Christianity. It’s legal and encouraged and a negotiating tool for Hillary Clinton behind closed doors in Islamic nations. She was best buds with the terrorist now behind bars that wrote the Religious Guidelines with Pres. Clinton. President Bush slammed that door hard, but now we have Hillary and Obama working hand in hand to bring this back.

Way to go, libs.

 

[JenT]

So, she still refuses to cite any sources?

I have a whole website dedicated to citing sources

Eloheim, El Shaddai, Yeshua, Adonai

 

[JBeukema]

sending a link to a front page of some site is not citing your sources, numbskull

 

[JenT]

sending a link to a front page of some site is not citing your sources, numbskull

Did you notice the actual court judgment before it?

Honestly, JB, must I spell everything out for you?

 

[Mr.Fitnah]

The title of the thread should also include Isaac's brother Ishmael.

As he was 1/2 of the orginal blessing given to Abraham

Mohammad could not trace his blood line to Abraham.

 

[JenT]

Yeah, that would probably be hard to do since they didn't keep records like the Jews did.

 

[Kalam]

Kinship of Prophets/Messengers

 

[JBeukema]

Kalam, what are the sourced for that tree and what are the blue boxes?

 

[JenT]

from your link:

On the Net:
State education department: http://www.cde.ca.gov/standards/history/grade7.html
Pacific Justice Institute: Pacific Justice Institute - Defending Parental Rights, Religious Freedom, employee civil liberties and more
Houghton-Mifflin: Houghton Mifflin Social Studies

not surprisingly....

The requested web page at URL http://www.cde.ca.gov/standards/history/grade7.html was not found on our web site.There is either a misspelling in the URL you entered, or the requested web page has moved or is no longer available.

The others don't even link to any actual articles or press releases

You allegedly cite one source, which claims to have gotten the article from the AP

Google can't find the article in question



So, once again you show yourself to be a liar. Evidently, no only can you never refute anything, but you have no sources for anything you ever post. This remains UNQUESTIONABLE FACT until you cite everything you have posted.

California school sued over Islamic drills - Washington Times

Washington Times not good enough for you?

I already said at the bottom of the post, the links were old, I didn't lie about anything JB

 

[Kalam]

The portion showing Muhammad as a descendant of Adnan has apparently been confirmed empirically. The portion between Adnan and Ishmael involves some speculation but certainly has as much merit as any claim of a genealogical relationship between, say, Jesus and Isaac. The portion connecting Adam to Abraham is most likely based on Biblical scripture and is therefore dubious.

The blue boxes depict Islamic prophets and messengers. The names are Arabized, but for the most part are similar enough to their Latin/English counterparts (Ishaq = Isaac, Isa = Jesus, Musa = Moses, etc.)

http://www.islamweb.net/ver2/archive/article.php?lang=E&id=134448