What if Hobby Lobby was run by Muslims imposing Sharia law on workers?

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What if Hobby Lobby was run by Muslims imposing Sharia law on workers?

There are no Muslims on the Supreme Court...the mostly Catholic SCOTUS would have ruled differently even if Hobby Lobby, with the same argument, would have been a Muslim business and not a "christian" one, IMHO.

Correct but remember, other countries that have law rooted in their religion are nutty fuckers. Not America tho....because God loves us and stuff like that

 

[whitehall]

The radical left wing hypocrisy is stunning. They bend over backwards to insure that the religious beliefs of Muslems are respected and that they are not offended. Even female members of the US Military are forced to wear buhrkas in public in muslem dominated countries. Prison systems in the US are forced to cater to the dietary needs of muslem converts and offer special treatment during muslem religious holidays. Police departments are forced to revise their dress code to conform to the religious beliefs of religions that require turbans and unkempt beards. School kids can't wear a Crucifix or carry a Bible but non-Christians can display their beliefs in their attire. The radical left would deny even Christian affiliated companies their religious right not to contribute the the murder of the unborn but there is little said about Sharia law that authorizes the stoning to death of women. As a matter of fact the low information left actually compares Sharia law to Christian beliefs.

 

[dilloduck]

What if Hobby Lobby was run by Muslims imposing Sharia law on workers?

There are no Muslims on the Supreme Court...the mostly Catholic SCOTUS would have ruled differently even if Hobby Lobby, with the same argument, would have been a Muslim business and not a "christian" one, IMHO.

Correct but remember, other countries that have law rooted in their religion are nutty fuckers. Not America tho....because God loves us and stuff like that

Are you calling Jews nutty fuckers ?

 

[hazlnut]

The radical left wing hypocrisy is stunning. They bend over backwards to insure that the religious beliefs of Muslems are respected and that they are not offended. Even female members of the US Military are forced to wear buhrkas in public in muslem dominated countries. Prison systems in the US are forced to cater to the dietary needs of muslem converts and offer special treatment during muslem religious holidays. Police departments are forced to revise their dress code to conform to the religious beliefs of religions that require turbans and unkempt beards. School kids can't wear a Crucifix or carry a Bible but non-Christians can display their beliefs in their attire. The radical left would deny even Christian affiliated companies their religious right not to contribute the the murder of the unborn but there is little said about Sharia law that authorizes the stoning to death of women. As a matter of fact the low information left actually compares Sharia law to Christian beliefs.

Apples to Oranges.


You obviously do not understand how the First Amendment works.


Next...

 

[g5000]

Step One: Your employer gives you a paycheck.

Step Two: You buy your own health insurance the same way you buy your own life, auto, and home insurance.

Step Three: Profits!


Problem solved.


NEXT!

 

[dilloduck]

The radical left wing hypocrisy is stunning. They bend over backwards to insure that the religious beliefs of Muslems are respected and that they are not offended. Even female members of the US Military are forced to wear buhrkas in public in muslem dominated countries. Prison systems in the US are forced to cater to the dietary needs of muslem converts and offer special treatment during muslem religious holidays. Police departments are forced to revise their dress code to conform to the religious beliefs of religions that require turbans and unkempt beards. School kids can't wear a Crucifix or carry a Bible but non-Christians can display their beliefs in their attire. The radical left would deny even Christian affiliated companies their religious right not to contribute the the murder of the unborn but there is little said about Sharia law that authorizes the stoning to death of women. As a matter of fact the low information left actually compares Sharia law to Christian beliefs.

Apples to Oranges.


You obviously do not understand how the First Amendment works.


Next...

Go ahead---explain how the First Amendment was stomped on by SCOTUS.

 

[KNB]

Jews aren't nuts, but the Israeli government is stocked with insane war criminals.

You people are going to have to come to the understanding that there are two Americas now- one for the rich (too big to prosecute) and one for everyone else (yourselves). Corporations are people with freedom of speech and freedom of religion.

A corporation can be nothing more than a name on a post office box in the Cayman Islands. How the fuck does a name on a post office box have freedom of religion?

The United States government is fully owned by the oligarchy. All three branches of your government agree that Corporations, not PEOPLE, are the "People" in "We the People". Your government, of, for and by you, the People, has decided in its lust for money and power that the government is going to work for private interests, not the public interest. A government of, for and by the Corporations.

Fascism.

 

[dilloduck]

Jews aren't nuts, but the Israeli government is stocked with insane war criminals.

You people are going to have to come to the understanding that there are two Americas now- one for the rich (too big to prosecute) and one for everyone else (yourselves). Corporations are people with freedom of speech and freedom of religion.

A corporation can be nothing more than a name on a post office box in the Cayman Islands. How the fuck does a name on a post office box have freedom of religion?

The United States government is fully owned by the oligarchy. All three branches of your government agree that Corporations, not PEOPLE, are the "People" in "We the People". Your government, of, for and by you, the People, has decided in its lust for money and power that the government is going to work for private interests, not the public interest. A government of, for and by the Corporations.

Fascism.

and why the left think the right has a lock on this fascism is beyond me. I guess maybe they have better propaganda ?

 

[Mephisto]

To the OP.

There are muslim businesses that impose muslim practices on their employees. All of their employees are muslims.

Why would a non-muslim want to work for a muslim employer?

Your OP is foolish. Plus you have no idea what the SCOTUS ruling was all about.

Muslim owns a small engine repair shop near me in semi rural Ga.
All of his employees are not Muslim except his wife who also works full time there and son part time.
He closes for all Christian holidays.
Non Muslims want to work there because the Muslim pays them.

How would them non Muslim employees feel if he made them fast during Ramadan...probably be pissed off.

 

[peach174]

How about the wild idea of realizing that God is nowhere near a Hobby Lobby box store? Then it doesn't matter what "religion" the business is because it's a fucking business, not a church.

Religion is everywhere including how you run your business.
You don't check it at the business door.
We had businesses where your word and a hand shake was as good as any law. That wasn't to awfully long ago either. Those are Christian principals which made our businesses strong and helped grow them.
It was called honesty and trustworthiness and laws were made that violated that.
Now we have nothing but force to accommodate only one ideology which is liberalism.
Conservatives and Independents be damned because to them you have no rights.

 

[Mephisto]

How about the wild idea of realizing that God is nowhere near a Hobby Lobby box store? Then it doesn't matter what "religion" the business is because it's a fucking business, not a church.

Religion is everywhere including how you run your business.
You don't check it at the business door.
We had businesses where your word and a hand shake was as good as any law. That wasn't to awfully long ago either. Those are Christian principals which made our businesses strong and helped grow them.
It was called honesty and trustworthiness and laws were made that violated that.
Now we have nothing but force to accommodate only one ideology which is liberalism.
Conservatives and Independents be damned because to them you have no rights.

So it's OK to not let your employees get the Plan B pill because it violates your religion, but it's OK to invest in companies that make the Plan B pill...


It's not about religion...it's about profits, period.

 

[dilloduck]

How about the wild idea of realizing that God is nowhere near a Hobby Lobby box store? Then it doesn't matter what "religion" the business is because it's a fucking business, not a church.

Religion is everywhere including how you run your business.
You don't check it at the business door.
We had businesses where your word and a hand shake was as good as any law. That wasn't to awfully long ago either. Those are Christian principals which made our businesses strong and helped grow them.
It was called honesty and trustworthiness and laws were made that violated that.
Now we have nothing but force to accommodate only one ideology which is liberalism.
Conservatives and Independents be damned because to them you have no rights.

So it's OK to not let your employees get the Plan B pill because it violates your religion, but it's OK to invest in companies that make the Plan B pill...


It's not about religion...it's about profits, period.

Right---so the left can stop the dramatic whining. Christianity won't get them pregnant.

 

[bripat9643]

What if Hobby Lobby was run by Muslims imposing Sharia law on workers?

Former Star Trek actor George Takei blasted Monday’s decision by the Supreme Court allowing the craft store Hobby Lobby to opt out of the contraceptive mandate of the Affordable Care Act.

In a post on the website for his new play, Allegiance, the openly gay Takei called Monday’s decision “a stunning setback for women’s reproductive rights.”

“The ruling elevates the rights of a FOR-PROFIT CORPORATION over those of its women employees and opens the door to all manner of claims that a company can refuse services based on its owner’s religion,” Takei wrote.

He referred to Justice Ruth Bader Ginsberg’s blistering 35-page dissent to the decision, saying, “Think about the ramifications: As Justice Ginsberg’s stinging dissent pointed out, companies run by Scientologists could refuse to cover antidepressants, and those run by Jews or Hindus could refuse to cover medications derived from pigs (such as many anesthetics, intravenous fluids, or medications coated in gelatin).”

“(O)ne wonders,” he said, “whether the case would have come out differently if a Muslim-run chain business attempted to impose Sharia law on its employees.”

DOH!


Sulu corners the far-right tea brains with LOGIC!!

Tekai is a moron, like you. No one has a right to force someone else to pay for their medical care. So what "women's rights" are being violated?

 

[Gadawg73]

To the OP.

There are muslim businesses that impose muslim practices on their employees. All of their employees are muslims.

Why would a non-muslim want to work for a muslim employer?

Your OP is foolish. Plus you have no idea what the SCOTUS ruling was all about.

Muslim owns a small engine repair shop near me in semi rural Ga.
All of his employees are not Muslim except his wife who also works full time there and son part time.
He closes for all Christian holidays.
Non Muslims want to work there because the Muslim pays them.

Great, whats your point? I was responding to a post that claimed that a muslim employer would impose muslim religious doctrine on its employees

"why would a non Muslim want to work for a Muslim employer?" redfish
Because they get a paycheck.
"all of their employees are Muslim" redfish

Now maybe you are just giving a hypothetical and forgot to state that.
Federal law is you can not hire based on religion so that hypothetical could never exist legally.

 

[KNB]

Christianity won't stop them from getting pregnant, either. But it will stop them from preventing pregnancy. That was the ruling.

If private corporations have religious freedom then what religion is the Federal Reserve? Christianity? Jesus threw out the money lenders. Greed is a sin. What religion is the Vatican Bank? What religion is HSBC? Monsanto? Lockheed-Martin? Northrop Grumman? Does God smile favorably upon weapons manufacturers and craft stores alike?

Corporations are People now with freedom of speech (the majority of the world's wealth) and freedom of religion (freedom to follow whichever laws they choose to obey).

 

[Gadawg73]

Jews aren't nuts, but the Israeli government is stocked with insane war criminals.

You people are going to have to come to the understanding that there are two Americas now- one for the rich (too big to prosecute) and one for everyone else (yourselves). Corporations are people with freedom of speech and freedom of religion.

A corporation can be nothing more than a name on a post office box in the Cayman Islands. How the fuck does a name on a post office box have freedom of religion?

The United States government is fully owned by the oligarchy. All three branches of your government agree that Corporations, not PEOPLE, are the "People" in "We the People". Your government, of, for and by you, the People, has decided in its lust for money and power that the government is going to work for private interests, not the public interest. A government of, for and by the Corporations.

Fascism.

I would want all the war criminals I could get if I had to fight people that slaughter women and children, most recently the Hamas rocket attacks yesterday aimed at a youth camp in Israel.
War criminals are great when you are constantly being attacked by savage animals that are the scum of the earth.

 

[NYcarbineer]

Yeah, comparing apples to cinder blocks is a real gotcha.

Hobby Lobby was able to get the Supreme Court to overturn a federal law based on the claim that the owner's religious belief trumped the law.

Why couldn't Muslims do that?

 

[NYcarbineer]

Um, how about just don't work there?

How about you just don't live here?

 

[Gadawg73]

There are also businesses owned by the Amish and other religions that are exempt from many government requirements.

Not businesses, individuals. But u right as they view social security as insurance and they believe in self sufficiency.

 

[NYcarbineer]

Remember the so-called ground zero mosque and where the conservative consensus was on that.