Zone1 What is a person?

[NotfooledbyW]

science says its a human being at conception not me,,

Science also says

The brain-life theory: towards a consistent biological definition of humanness - PubMed

This paper suggests that medically the term a 'human being' should be defined by the presence of an active human brain. The brain is the only unique and irreplaceable organ in the human body, as the orchestrator of all organ systems and the seat of personality. Thus, the presence or absence of...

pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

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This paper suggests that medically the term a 'human being' should be defined by the presence of an active human brain. The brain is the only unique and irreplaceable organ in the human body, as the orchestrator of all organ systems and the seat of personality. Thus, the presence or absence of brain life truly defines the presence or absence of human life in the medical sense. When viewed in this way, human life may be seen as a continuous spectrum between the onset of brain life in utero (eight weeks gestation), until the occurrence of brain death. At any point human tissue or organ systems may be present, but without the presence of a functional human brain, these do not constitute a 'human being', at least in a medical sense.​

 

[progressive hunter]

But it is OK to let a human being die? Seems like an arbitrary position.

when did I say its OK to let a human die??
if possible every attempt should be made to save and protect an innocent human life
and youre advocating for the intentional murder of an innocent human being,,

so pot meet kettle,,

 

[progressive hunter]

Science also says

The brain-life theory: towards a consistent biological definition of humanness - PubMed

This paper suggests that medically the term a 'human being' should be defined by the presence of an active human brain. The brain is the only unique and irreplaceable organ in the human body, as the orchestrator of all organ systems and the seat of personality. Thus, the presence or absence of...

pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

​

This paper suggests that medically the term a 'human being' should be defined by the presence of an active human brain. The brain is the only unique and irreplaceable organ in the human body, as the orchestrator of all organ systems and the seat of personality. Thus, the presence or absence of brain life truly defines the presence or absence of human life in the medical sense. When viewed in this way, human life may be seen as a continuous spectrum between the onset of brain life in utero (eight weeks gestation), until the occurrence of brain death. At any point human tissue or organ systems may be present, but without the presence of a functional human brain, these do not constitute a 'human being', at least in a medical sense.​

they can suggest anything they want,,

wont change the fact that an abortion is the intentional act that results in the death of a human being,,

 

[alang1216]

when did I say its OK to let a human die??

You didn't seem to have any issues letting a braindead patient die. Or is he no longer human?

if possible every attempt should be made to save and protect an innocent human life
and youre advocating for the intentional murder of an innocent human being,,

so pot meet kettle,,

Says the person ready to pull the plug on a living human being.

 

[progressive hunter]

You didn't seem to have any issues letting a braindead patient die. Or is he no longer human?


Says the person ready to pull the plug on a living human being.

a braindead patient is already dead and his heart and lungs are being kept operating using machines,,

and also there is no expectation that the person will regain brain activity,,

have a nice day,,

 

[NotfooledbyW]

This paper suggests that medically the term a 'human being' should be defined by the presence of an active human brain.

Yes because on my planet abortion would be acknowledged as ending the human life of a specific person.

Abortion ends a specific unique one of a kind human life that depending on two primary circumstances, ….

(1) natural (miscarriage by genetic flaw, poor nutrition etc) and unnatural (intentional termination by the potential birth mother, or

(2). physical assault against a pregnant woman etc)

is capable of becoming a person.

 

[progressive hunter]

Abortion ends a specific unique one of a kind human life that depending on many circumstances, natural (miscarriage by genetic flaw, poor nutrition etc) and unnatural (intentional termination by the potential birth mother, or physical assault against a pregnant woman etc) is capable of becoming a person.

it depends on none of those,,

its a person at conception, not capable of becoming one,,

 

[NotfooledbyW]

its a person at conception, not capable of becoming one,,

Half of conceptions and in miscarriage.

 

[Procrustes Stretched]

*you’re

Wow!

 

[progressive hunter]

Half of conceptions and in miscarriage.

we arent talking about natural deaths,,
we are talking about the intentional act of abortion that results in the death of the child/fetus in the womb,,

do try and keep up,,,

 

[BreezeWood]

we arent talking about natural deaths,,
we are talking about the intentional act of abortion that results in the death of the child/fetus in the womb,,

do try and keep up,,,

translation, the choice made by an individual involving their own concerns that are no one else's business.

 

[Orangecat]

Wow!

Shocking what education reveals!

 

[Procrustes Stretched]

Shocking what education reveals!

You people hate education, hate facts, hate science, hate, hate, hate, hate...

 

[ding]

Life is not fair, I know that much.

Says the guy rationalizing he's not being unfair.

 

[alang1216]

You people hate education, hate facts, hate science, hate, hate, hate, hate...

They are scared. Illegal immigrants are taking their jobs, trans are using their bathrooms, Blacks are getting freebies, etc.

 

[alang1216]

Says the guy rationalizing he's not being unfair.

But I can't be fair since there is no such thing.

 

[ding]

But I can't be fair since there is no such thing.

You crack me up, allen.

 

[alang1216]

You crack me up, allen.

Right back at you, dong.

 

[Orangecat]

You people hate education, hate facts, hate science, hate, hate, hate, hate...

Thanks for proving my point

 

[ding]

Right back at you, dong.

I love normalization of deviance.