Zone1 What is a person?

[alang1216]

an egg is not aborted a human life is,,

The morning after pill prevents an egg from attaching so it then dies of natural causes. So that's OK?

 

[progressive hunter]

The morning after pill prevents an egg from attaching so it then dies of natural causes. So that's OK?

there you go again lying your ass off,,

its a fertilized egg which is the very beginning of human life,,

and beings it was the pill that caused it not to attach thats an intentional act not a natural one,,

 

[alang1216]

I will take that as a deflection and proof youre a lying sack of shit,,,

a braindead crash victim isnt being held against their will and staved to death,,

Do they give their consent? Can any coma patient be starved? What about Alzheimers patients?

 

[progressive hunter]

Do they give their consent? Can any coma patient be starved? What about Alzheimers patients?

why are you moving the goal post??

 

[alang1216]

there you go again lying your ass off,,

its a fertilized egg which is the very beginning of human life,,

and beings it was the pill that caused it not to attach thats an intentional act not a natural one,,

So not feeding a coma patient is not an intentional act?

 

[progressive hunter]

So not feeding a coma patient is not an intentional act?

why are you changing to coma patient when we were talking about braindead being kept alive with machines????

 

[alang1216]

why are you moving the goal post??

Just trying to understand what is your rational for protecting one life and taking another.

 

[alang1216]

why are you changing to coma patient when we were talking about braindead being kept alive with machines????

Neither can consent. Which is the critical thing, the brain or the machines?

 

[Orangecat]

What is a person?​

Anything that identifies as a person?

 

[progressive hunter]

Just trying to understand what is your rational for protecting one life and taking another.

you havent shown where I advocate for taking a life,,

what youre doing is throwing shit against the wall and hoping something sticks,,
and so far every example youve given has been shown a failure,,

 

[progressive hunter]

Neither can consent. Which is the critical thing, the brain or the machines?

consent to what??

if they are braindead they are essentially dead and being kept alive,,
and in most cases die within seconds or minutes of being disconnected,,

very few starve to death,,

 

[alang1216]

you havent shown where I advocate for taking a life,,

Choosing to let someone die qualifies in my book.

 

[progressive hunter]

Choosing to let someone die qualifies in my book.

as I said,, the world doesnt revolve around you or me,,

 

[progressive hunter]

Choosing to let someone die qualifies in my book.

if they are braindead they are really dead its that their hearts and lungs are being kept working with machines,,,,

so no one is letting them die,,

 

[alang1216]

consent to what??

if they are braindead they are essentially dead and being kept alive,,
and in most cases die within seconds or minutes of being disconnected,,

very few starve to death,,

So a functional brain is the important thing?

 

[progressive hunter]

So a functional brain is the important thing?

I never said that,,

but in the context of a braindead crash victim there isnt a functional brain,,

 

[alang1216]

I never said that,,

but in the context of a braindead crash victim there isnt a functional brain,,

Why does that matter here but not for an egg?

 

[progressive hunter]

Why does that matter here but not for an egg?

you still going with the egg gets aborted schtick??

a living human being is what gets aborted,,

 

[Orangecat]

Sponges are animals? I ask because I'm not sure if your* dealing with animals or life itself.

*you’re

 

[alang1216]

you still going with the egg gets aborted schtick??

a living human being is what gets aborted,,

But it is OK to let a human being die? Seems like an arbitrary position.