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It is not a 'name'..it is what you are. Liberal is your ideology.A "progressive" is a liberal that is ashamed to be called "liberal" - it is a disguise (originally) intended to make someone believe that they were something that they weren't - a ruse intended to "slide in" without giving away their intentions.
Back in the 60s and 70s - the term "liberal" became a hated word. These "liberals" changed their names to "hopefully" scam the American people. After all - who WOULDN'T want to be "progressive"?? It took about a week for America to realize that these were the same communist loving "intellectuals" and told them to bugger off.
Liberals, progressives, marxists, communists, et al - all the same.
Basically, gutter trash, limp-wristed clowns that hate America.
I am a liberal and proud of it. You can call us all of the names that you want, it only shows your weakness.
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Totalitarian: Believe in Human Utopia that has to be forced upon the dumb masses for their own good. A Utopia that will never exist on Earth... but does in one place...and a place they cannot control.
Love their own liberty at the expense of the liberty of the Dumb masses.
Guy, you really think the Koch Brothers don't look at you in your Double Wide and think that you are the "dumb Masses"?
Not everyone is as good at kissing rich man ass as you are, and boy I bet you can pucker with the best of them. Sarcasm aside, the person who saw their job flee to China has nothing to be grateful to the rich for. Same goes for the person who lost their retirement savings or thier house to medical bankruptcy. Most people who work do not get nice houses and huge tracts of land, they get the least that the miserly assholes can possibly part with along with copious reminders that you are just not worth a penny more.
Where the hell did you EVER get the idea that the job you worked at was "yours"? Where was it EVER put in writing that YOU have a RIGHT to anything? I personally know several people who lost their jobs to downsizing, moves to India and China and a host of any other things. Did they sit around and whine about their "bad luck" and the evil "capitalists" that "stole" their jobs? No. They picked themselves up, regrouped, and marched on.
You marxists live in a world of fantasy
Indeed they do. JOBS belong to the people that create them and they have a purpose. NO ONE is entitled to a 'Job'...
And every employee signed on KNOWING the terms of their contract, didn't they? IF they don't like it? Go elsewhere.Where the hell did you EVER get the idea that the job you worked at was "yours"? Where was it EVER put in writing that YOU have a RIGHT to anything? I personally know several people who lost their jobs to downsizing, moves to India and China and a host of any other things. Did they sit around and whine about their "bad luck" and the evil "capitalists" that "stole" their jobs? No. They picked themselves up, regrouped, and marched on.
You marxists live in a world of fantasy
Indeed they do. JOBS belong to the people that create them and they have a purpose. NO ONE is entitled to a 'Job'...
Very true......and nobody gives you a job
They receive labor from which they make a profit on every employee
Guy, you really think the Koch Brothers don't look at you in your Double Wide and think that you are the "dumb Masses"?
i believe a double wide is preferable to a freezer crate under a bridge somewhere, like so many "progressives" occupy.
Not by much.
Either or is a sad commentary on wealth disparity in this country.
But you are pretty much too dumb to realize that.
Those who think the myth of utopia is achievable thru big government
JFK said it best
What do our opponents mean when they apply to us the label "Liberal?" If by "Liberal" they mean, as they want people to believe, someone who is soft in his policies abroad, who is against local government, and who is unconcerned with the taxpayer's dollar, then the record of this party and its members demonstrate that we are not that kind of "Liberal." But if by a "Liberal" they mean someone who looks ahead and not behind, someone who welcomes new ideas without rigid reactions, someone who cares about the welfare of the people -- their health, their housing, their schools, their jobs, their civil rights, and their civil liberties -- someone who believes we can break through the stalemate and suspicions that grip us in our policies abroad, if that is what they mean by a "Liberal," then I'm proud to say I'm a "Liberal
A progressive is someone who hates America and the principles it stood for in its first 225 years. A progressive thinks he is smarter than everyone else and dictates laws forcing everyone else to adopt his "morals". A progressive is sickened by any concept of individual freedom.
Where the hell did you EVER get the idea that the job you worked at was "yours"? Where was it EVER put in writing that YOU have a RIGHT to anything? I personally know several people who lost their jobs to downsizing, moves to India and China and a host of any other things. Did they sit around and whine about their "bad luck" and the evil "capitalists" that "stole" their jobs? No. They picked themselves up, regrouped, and marched on.
You marxists live in a world of fantasy
Indeed they do. JOBS belong to the people that create them and they have a purpose. NO ONE is entitled to a 'Job'...
Very true......and nobody gives you a job
They receive labor from which they make a profit on every employee
i believe a double wide is preferable to a freezer crate under a bridge somewhere, like so many "progressives" occupy.
Not by much.
Either or is a sad commentary on wealth disparity in this country.
But you are pretty much too dumb to realize that.
Please spare us with the class envy shit. Nobody cares.
Hey Joe...It's NOT YOUR MONEY...
Go earn your own money.
And mind your own affairs.
You people expend so much energy and waste so much time worrying about what other have, if you put that effort into your own work, you would never have to worry about money, ever.
Some progressives in the Progressive Era were rather outspoken about their socialist proclivities and the idea that socialism and democracy are synonymous. In his Socialism and Democracy speech, for example, Woodrow Wilson said, "it is very clear that in fundamental theory socialism and democracy are almost if not quite one and the same. They both rest at bottom upon the absolute right of the community to determine its own destiny and that of its members."It's a mask...a mask that hides their true intent.Progressive is codespeak for Socialist or Communist.
Progressives are those who got so repelled by being called liberal they changed their name. Not much difference if any. Same thing they did with GW and CC.
NO...they were Realists. Progressives DO NOT believe in Individual Freedom. The PROGRESSIVE track record belies YOUR statement.A progressive is someone who hates America and the principles it stood for in its first 225 years. A progressive thinks he is smarter than everyone else and dictates laws forcing everyone else to adopt his "morals". A progressive is sickened by any concept of individual freedom.
The Founding Fathers were progressives!
Not by much.
Either or is a sad commentary on wealth disparity in this country.
But you are pretty much too dumb to realize that.
ooooh !! i realize that.., trust me ! i realize that most libertards are too stupid and lazy to better themselves by getting a job.., any job, just to establish a work ethic, why are the rich folk rich ? i'll give you a stab at it, then i'll give you the real answer.
"Not by much".., ooooh, really, a double wide has heat, electric, plus hot and cold running water, where he can bathe.., something totally foreign to a liberal/progressive..., like yourself....
If you are living in a double wide, the rich don't care about you, Cleetus.
I'm hoping on some level, you get that.
The rich are rich because we have a system where wealth accumulates in a few hands, and politicians can be bought. If you haven't figured that one out yet, you just aren't very bright, are you.
Have fun in your double wide, man. The possum hunt starts later.
And what's in a NAME? PARTIES are the problem. TEA Party =CITIZENS fed up...YOU have a problem with that?Progressives are those who got so repelled by being called liberal they changed their name. Not much difference if any. Same thing they did with GW and CC.
You mean like the Tea Partiers who were so repelled by being called Republicans that they changed their name?
A progressive is someone who hates America and the principles it stood for in its first 225 years. A progressive thinks he is smarter than everyone else and dictates laws forcing everyone else to adopt his "morals". A progressive is sickened by any concept of individual freedom.
The Founding Fathers were progressives!
With or without fries?Liberals...love big government.
Pregressives want government Super sized...
(Kidding) Just a few seconds of levity.
To a progressive, government may progress. Doing so, it facilitates the progression of society. Fair enough.On the last flight out of LAX to JFK tonight I watched 5 minutes of MSNBC and heard Ed Shultz and guests describe the "Progressive" solution to US energy (hint: they're against oil but love solar and wind and other things that just don't make economic sense) and I wondered:
What is a 'Progressive'?
What are the central ideas and beliefs that make someone a Progressive rather than a Liberal or a Democrat?
BTW, Ed Schultz supports the Keystone Pipeline, you should have watched more - but you're willfully ignorant.
progressive
1. favoring or advocating progress, change, improvement, or reform, as opposed to wishing to maintain things as they are, especially in political matters: a progressive mayor.
2. making progress toward better conditions; employing or advocating more enlightened or liberal ideas, new or experimental methods, etc.: a progressive community.
3. characterized by such progress, or by continuous improvement.
4. going forward or onward; passing successively from one member of a series to the next; proceeding step by step.
That is a fundamental difference between us.
In the conservative mind, a constrained government with a permanent foundation (natural law) does not contravene society's progress. Progress doesn't depend on government; it depends on individuals. As Calvin Coolidge said, "We live in an age of science and of abounding accumulation of material things. These did not create our Declaration. Our Declaration created them."
I understand and appreciate the many definitions of progressive that progressives have, but to my dying day, I'll never understand why anyone would want to put an end to a thing proved so lovely as our pre-Progressive Era government.
If you are living in a double wide, the rich don't care about you, Cleetus.
I'm hoping on some level, you get that.
The rich are rich because we have a system where wealth accumulates in a few hands, and politicians can be bought. If you haven't figured that one out yet, you just aren't very bright, are you.
Have fun in your double wide, man. The possum hunt starts later.
What a dumbass comment (figures). I live in a 4 bedroom 2900 square foot home on 260 acres that I own in Montana and I will bet you a dollar to a donut that the "rich" couldn't care less. I worked for EVERY penny that I used to pay for this home - from working for those "rich" guys. They provided me with a fine living and I am forever grateful for their "richness".
Jesus, you envious bastards. I'll ask the same question that I ask of any other idiot that hates the rich - if YOU have a job (I am supposing that you live off Uncle Sugar) but IF you have a job tell me this (and be truthful): Do you work for a poor person? Do you work for some bum that lives under a bridge? Was the person who hired you on food stamps? Does he pay you in Food Stamps? -OR- Does he pay you from the profits of the company that HE invested in, used HIS money to start?
You might consider these things before you continually bit the hand that feeds you.
Now, head back to your refrigerator box - it's cold as hell outside!
You are calling someone a dumbass when you are assuming that everyone has had the same opportunities as you.
