What is the monetary system in Heaven?

[BULLDOG]

The error was in your politicization of religion which led to your faulty interpretation that early Christians were socialists. The Gnostics made the same mistake. You confuse stewardship and subsidiarity with socialism. So my point still stands, you behave exactly like an apostate who has become bitter and disillusioned by life. The religious beliefs of others has nothing to do with the state of your life other than serving as an excuse to keep you from evolving.

I'm not trying to anylize my life right now, and you aren't any where near capable of doing it. I'm just evaluating a contridiction in the bible. Common ownership and control of all posessions is communism, and is exactly the lifestyle that was praised in that section of scripture. You can come up with any excuse you want to explain why it is not practiced today. Excuses to ignore biblical instruction are quite common, but those two facts in the previous scentence are unassailable.

 

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I'm not trying to anylize my life right now, and you aren't any where near capable of doing it. I'm just evaluating a contridiction in the bible. Common ownership and control of all posessions is communism, and is exactly the lifestyle that was praised in that section of scripture. You can come up with any excuse you want to explain why it is not practiced today. Excuses to ignore biblical instruction are quite common, but those two facts in the previous scentence are unassailable.

That's what you think you are doing. I see right through it.

You are seeing what you want to see and hoping to share your misery with others. It's not practiced today because it wasn't practiced back then. You must be thinking of the Gnostic Christians.

 

[BULLDOG]

That's what you think you are doing. I see right through it.

You are seeing what you want to see and hoping to share your misery with others. It's not practiced today because it wasn't practiced back then. You must be thinking of the Gnostic Christians.

Wasn't practised back then? Why does Acts say
(Acts 2:42–47)

32The multitude of believers was one in heart and soul. No one claimed that any of his possessions was his own, but they shared everything they owned. 33With great power the apostles continued to give their testimony about the resurrection of the Lord Jesus. And abundant grace was upon them all.

34There were no needy ones among them, because those who owned lands or houses would sell their property, bring the proceeds from the sales, 35and lay them at the apostles’ feet for distribution to anyone as he had need.

36Joseph, a Levite from Cyprus, whom the apostles called Barnabas (meaning Son of Encouragement), 37sold a field he owned, brought the money, and laid it at the apostles’ feet.

Was the bible lying?

 

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Wasn't practised back then? Why does Acts say
(Acts 2:42–47)

32The multitude of believers was one in heart and soul. No one claimed that any of his possessions was his own, but they shared everything they owned. 33With great power the apostles continued to give their testimony about the resurrection of the Lord Jesus. And abundant grace was upon them all.

34There were no needy ones among them, because those who owned lands or houses would sell their property, bring the proceeds from the sales, 35and lay them at the apostles’ feet for distribution to anyone as he had need.

36Joseph, a Levite from Cyprus, whom the apostles called Barnabas (meaning Son of Encouragement), 37sold a field he owned, brought the money, and laid it at the apostles’ feet.

Was the bible lying?

I think it's an over active imagination on your part. Looking for what you want to see. You should contrast that with the behavior of the Cathars. Were there any communes that you can point to? How extensive was it?

You are just looking to stir up shit because you are a shit stirrer.

 

[BULLDOG]

I think it's an over active imagination on your part. Looking for what you want to see. You should contrast that with the behavior of the Cathars. Were there any communes that you can point to? How extensive was it?

You are just looking to stir up shit because you are a shit stirrer.

Well, the bible points to all who were present at Pentecost. What was it. 2 or 3 thousand new Christians? Of course you have to count those that didn't have to be converted too. Sounds like a pretty big crowd to me.

 

[BreezeWood]

I was taught in heaven, everyone equal.

Wait a minute doesn't God live there?

not all are gods but all are pure who reside in the Everlasting.

 

[Feeding Crows]

I understand, entrance is free. But how do you live in heaven? Does money qualify you for a higher cloud?

If not, then what's the need for money in our regular lives?

 

[Feeding Crows]

Why does the church need 117 trillion dollars in assets?

 

[Feeding Crows]

When people could use just a thousand or two.

 

[Feeding Crows]

I said reference Galatians and Ephesians

And Mathew 18:18

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seriously?

 

[Feeding Crows]

Hardly the circumstance, far from being a communist society, heaven is a Monarchy. As the scriptures point out, even in heaven the duty of the Christian is to be subservient to our Lord God. The scriptures declare that Heaven is a spiritual realm, a place where God exists as a Spirit, thus we will not have physical bodies but spiritual bodies and become like the angels. Even in heaven there are responsibilities as the duty of each is to serve the Lord God.

Heaven will be populated by the Holy Godhead, the Father, the Son and the Holy Ghost (Rev. 4:8), by holy angels (Luke 9:26) and the just, those who have been made perfect by the sacrificial blood of Christ and the Grace of God (Heb. 12:23) those made just by the church of the firstborn (Christ Jesus).

There will be no possibility of evil existing in heaven as all those renegades from God's righteousness will have been sentenced to hell (Matt. 25:41-46, 2 Thess. 1:7-9, Rev. 14:9-12, 21:8, 22:15)

There will be an atmosphere of extreme joy.........but heaven is still a place of responsibilities. "Gods servants shall serve Him......" -- Rev. 7:15 And they shall find joy in doing so.

There will be no need of money or marriage in heaven, as spiritual bodies are eternal and do not require reproduction to replenish, as pointed out by Christ (Matthew. 22:29-30).

Will there be memories in heaven? Only happy memories as the scriptures declare, "....God Himself will be among those in heaven and wipe away every tear........" -- Rev. 21:3-5

Will we know our loved ones? Of course the loved one's who are actually in heaven as stated in (Genesis 25:8) where we are told, at death, Abraham was gathered to his people.

When David's child died he realized that the child would never come back to him, but he could go to where his son would be. (2 Sam. 12:23)

There is a passage in (1 Thess. 4:13,14) that gives hope to those who have lost loved one's to death, that they could one day be reunited with them.

Again..........our bodies will be changed from corruptible flesh to incorruptible spirits, ".....in the twinkling of an eye......" 1 Cor. 15:52

But heaven will be nothing like a communist commune..........all will still bow and serve the Lord God, the Holy Monarch of Heaven, because after the Christ finally defeats death at the final judgment, the kingdom is turned back to the Father (1 Cor. 15:24

Heaven is a monarchy, or a benevolent dictatorship. I completely agree. But the financial system is communism. You peeps don't understand the difference. You just keep arguing bullshit.

 

[Feeding Crows]

This thread, and I'm the OP, is about the financial system in heaven. Period. What financial system do you think they have in heaven, if not communism?

 

[Feeding Crows]

There's definitely not a bank, there better not be at least... So Capitalism is out the window.

There's no barter system in heaven.

There are no loans.

There are no brokerages.

There's no need for money, because it is "heaven". So, obviously everything is shared equally among all the members of heaven. And that means Communism. As much as you may hate the word, it is a financial system, not a political one. And that's how heaven would roll, if it exists. Sorry!

 

[Batcat]

Communism has a bad rap, but it is actually the Heaven that Christianity promises.

No. Heaven is a benevolent dictatorship. The best form of government.

Coming: A Truly Benevolent Ruler

C.S. Lewis once wrote, 'Of all tyrannies, a tyranny exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive.' In light of human nature, this is very true.

www.cgg.org

**snip***

These reasons are why the only answer to humanity's problems is the return of Jesus Christ to set up His Kingdom and rule with a rod of iron (Revelation 19:15). Only our Creator knows what humans really need, as well as how and when to give it to them. And being immortal, He will never have to relinquish His throne to an inferior heir. His will be the ultimate benevolent dictatorship.…emphasis added

Once He has established His government on the earth and instituted His righteous, just, and equitable policies over Israel, they will begin to bring peace and prosperity to all who follow them. Others will see the joy that His way of life provides to His people, and they will seek His governance over them. His rule will spread over all the earth in perpetuity. In fact, I Corinthians 15:25 tells us, "For He must reign till He has put all enemies under His feet."

The church of God observes the Feast of Trumpets, the holy day the Jews call Rosh Hashanah. We believe that God's holy days, described and commanded in Leviticus 23, reveal to us God's plan of salvation for all humanity. The Feast of Trumpets is the fourth of the seven annual holy days, sitting in the central position of God's plan, and the great event that it symbolizes is the wonderful return of Jesus Christ to establish the Kingdom of God on earth.

On this holy day, we look forward to the time of God's direct intervention into the affairs of humanity, to bring divine order and peace to a chaotic, war-torn, immoral, and deceived world. While some may scorn this as an impossible Utopian vision, we merely point to the pages of the Bible and Christ's promise, "And if I go and prepare a place for you, I will come again and receive you to Myself; that where I am, there you may be also" (John 14:3). We would like nothing better than to live under the benevolent rule of our King, and thus we pray, "Your kingdom come" (Matthew 6:10).

 

[Feeding Crows]

No. Heaven is a benevolent dictatorship. The best form of government.

That's a form of government. Not a form of finance. I am all for a benevolent dictatorship!!! But that's not how you get things in heaven. It's shared equally. Meaning, it's communist.

 

[Feeding Crows]

In fact, I argue to change this government into a benevolent dictatorship!!! And I argue how to keep it that way, after I die... But that's not the economic system. It would be Communist. Sharing, and stuff..

 

[Feeding Crows]

In heaven, we should all have equal access to any resources that are needed in heaven. Doesn't matter how much money or power you had in your earthly life.

We're all equal, and have equal access to whatever it is that's available in heaven.

Shite, that's Communism... Is anyone going to further argue the obvious?

 

[Batcat]

That's a form of government. Not a form of finance. I am all for a benevolent dictatorship!!! But that's not how you get things in heaven. It's shared equally. Meaning, it's communist.

Some of my recent reading on religion stated that some people who have done a lot of good for others while alive will be rewarded more than others. However, everybody who ends up in heaven will be pleased to be there.

Basic Theology: A Popular Systematic Guide to Understanding Biblical Truth​

CHARLES C. RYRIE

Page 315 Kindle version

Believers will be judged by Him at the Judgment Seat of Christ (1 Cor. 3:11–15; 2 Cor. 5:10) after the Rapture of the church. The outcome of this judgment for all will be heaven, though with a varying number of rewards. All will receive some praise from God (1 Cor. 4:5).

 

[Feeding Crows]

So how do you get rewarded more in heaven, besides just being there? And what do you get to do with those extra rewards? And what do you need to do in life to qualify for these extra perks?

I'm sorry, but that's a lot of poopy.

 

[Feeding Crows]

I'm trying so hard not to get pissed off...