What is "Trickle Down Economics"?

[kaz]

Can you name the sectors that are not being offshored and onshored? Can you name the types of jobs that are not being minimized by these policies? Other than Government leadership...

When they immigrated migrants to pick farms... I was silent cause I did not pick fruit. When they offshored production... i was silent cause I did not work in production. When they offshored and h1b visa'd high tech jobs... I was silent cause I benefited from that because I'm a management consultant for the managers that are getting bonuses to right size payroll. When they came for MBA jobs I was shocked that our government is paying corporations to move my job off shore and import MBAs from India and no one gives a shit that I'm getting paid what amounts to minimum professional wages now.

I didn't grasp all your questions, but as I keep pointing out, offshoring is not just moving a job offshore, it's redesigning processes and creating typically better paying, higher end jobs here and offshoring the lower end grunt work.

You didn't really read my list of benefits, I'd prefer you address the points I made rather than my repeating them again and you ignoring them again. If you respond to what I already argued, we can go from there.

The first wave of IT offshoring was for customer service calls. The second wave was for fixing the issues identified by the customer service calls. The third wave was for replacing the engineers that build the products sold to Customers. The fourth wave, just starting is moving management and head quarters.

The shemale goes negative rep. I guess you realize you have nothing in your head and nothing in your pants, so you lash out with the only machismo you can find, -1331 rep points. LOL. How can I survive this devastation?

You're in my usless bitch category now with Seawytch.

 

[Siete]

Can you name the sectors that are not being offshored and onshored? Can you name the types of jobs that are not being minimized by these policies? Other than Government leadership...

When they immigrated migrants to pick farms... I was silent cause I did not pick fruit. When they offshored production... i was silent cause I did not work in production. When they offshored and h1b visa'd high tech jobs... I was silent cause I benefited from that because I'm a management consultant for the managers that are getting bonuses to right size payroll. When they came for MBA jobs I was shocked that our government is paying corporations to move my job off shore and import MBAs from India and no one gives a shit that I'm getting paid what amounts to minimum professional wages now.

I didn't grasp all your questions, but as I keep pointing out, offshoring is not just moving a job offshore, it's redesigning processes and creating typically better paying, higher end jobs here and offshoring the lower end grunt work.

You didn't really read my list of benefits, I'd prefer you address the points I made rather than my repeating them again and you ignoring them again. If you respond to what I already argued, we can go from there.

The first wave of IT offshoring was for customer service calls. The second wave was for fixing the issues identified by the customer service calls. The third wave was for replacing the engineers that build the products sold to Customers. The fourth wave, just starting is moving management and head quarters.

Halliburton moved its HQ to Dubai in 07

 

[kaz]

Can you name the sectors that are not being offshored and onshored? Can you name the types of jobs that are not being minimized by these policies? Other than Government leadership...

When they immigrated migrants to pick farms... I was silent cause I did not pick fruit. When they offshored production... i was silent cause I did not work in production. When they offshored and h1b visa'd high tech jobs... I was silent cause I benefited from that because I'm a management consultant for the managers that are getting bonuses to right size payroll. When they came for MBA jobs I was shocked that our government is paying corporations to move my job off shore and import MBAs from India and no one gives a shit that I'm getting paid what amounts to minimum professional wages now.

I didn't grasp all your questions, but as I keep pointing out, offshoring is not just moving a job offshore, it's redesigning processes and creating typically better paying, higher end jobs here and offshoring the lower end grunt work.

You didn't really read my list of benefits, I'd prefer you address the points I made rather than my repeating them again and you ignoring them again. If you respond to what I already argued, we can go from there.

The first wave of IT offshoring was for customer service calls. The second wave was for fixing the issues identified by the customer service calls. The third wave was for replacing the engineers that build the products sold to Customers. The fourth wave, just starting is moving management and head quarters.

Oh fear, fear. What a coward. It is you who is destroying us, not companies that offshore.

 

[The Rabbi]

I didn't grasp all your questions, but as I keep pointing out, offshoring is not just moving a job offshore, it's redesigning processes and creating typically better paying, higher end jobs here and offshoring the lower end grunt work.

You didn't really read my list of benefits, I'd prefer you address the points I made rather than my repeating them again and you ignoring them again. If you respond to what I already argued, we can go from there.

The first wave of IT offshoring was for customer service calls. The second wave was for fixing the issues identified by the customer service calls. The third wave was for replacing the engineers that build the products sold to Customers. The fourth wave, just starting is moving management and head quarters.

The shemale goes negative rep. I guess you realize you have nothing in your head and nothing in your pants, so you lash out with the only machismo you can find, -1331 rep points. LOL. How can I survive this devastation?

You're in my usless bitch category now with Seawytch.

I hate to tell you this but RMKBrown is a libertarian. I'd say like you but I like you too much for that.

 

[kaz]

as do I.

"Only fools will continue clinging to the premise that outsourcing is good for America."

Dr. Paul Craig Roberts was Assistant Secretary of the Treasury in the Reagan administration. His latest book, “How The Economy Was Lost,” has just been published by CounterPunch/AK Press.



former Secretary of Treasury under Reagan OR some dolt on a message board sporting an MBA ... gee, let me ponder that one.

When it comes to fools, I bow to your expertise

I hand you your ass and you discredit ME ?

take your MBA to a comedy club and enjoy the laughter ... (at your expense) Bow to the crowd.

Hand me my ass? Um...OK... I have experience and education, you quoted one person who agrees with you. Wow, I'm humbled. Then you do have no nuts RKMBrown on your side.

 

[kaz]

The first wave of IT offshoring was for customer service calls. The second wave was for fixing the issues identified by the customer service calls. The third wave was for replacing the engineers that build the products sold to Customers. The fourth wave, just starting is moving management and head quarters.

The shemale goes negative rep. I guess you realize you have nothing in your head and nothing in your pants, so you lash out with the only machismo you can find, -1331 rep points. LOL. How can I survive this devastation?

You're in my usless bitch category now with Seawytch.

I hate to tell you this but RMKBrown is a libertarian. I'd say like you but I like you too much for that.

LOL. He's definitely not exactly like me. We actually generally agree, not always. It's his little sniveling resort to going to negative rep to lash out instead of backing up his arguments with content that I have no respect for.

 

[RKMBrown]

I didn't grasp all your questions, but as I keep pointing out, offshoring is not just moving a job offshore, it's redesigning processes and creating typically better paying, higher end jobs here and offshoring the lower end grunt work.

You didn't really read my list of benefits, I'd prefer you address the points I made rather than my repeating them again and you ignoring them again. If you respond to what I already argued, we can go from there.

The first wave of IT offshoring was for customer service calls. The second wave was for fixing the issues identified by the customer service calls. The third wave was for replacing the engineers that build the products sold to Customers. The fourth wave, just starting is moving management and head quarters.

Oh fear, fear. What a coward. It is you who is destroying us, not companies that offshore.

Fear? I'm not afraid of the offshoring. I'm just not happy about it.

 

[The Rabbi]

The shemale goes negative rep. I guess you realize you have nothing in your head and nothing in your pants, so you lash out with the only machismo you can find, -1331 rep points. LOL. How can I survive this devastation?

You're in my usless bitch category now with Seawytch.

I hate to tell you this but RMKBrown is a libertarian. I'd say like you but I like you too much for that.

LOL. He's definitely not exactly like me. We actually generally agree, not always. It's his little sniveling resort to going to negative rep to lash out instead of backing up his arguments with content that I have no respect for.

Its because he can't. When confronted with contrary evidence he focuses on the irrelevant or deflects to some other talking point. It's classic low information/low intelligence stuff.

 

[Luddly Neddite]

What is "Trickle Down Economics"?

Its an economic system whereby the rich get richer, the middle class gets poor and the poor lose their homes.

 

[Mr Natural]

I didn't grasp all your questions, but as I keep pointing out, offshoring is not just moving a job offshore, it's redesigning processes and creating typically better paying, higher end jobs here and offshoring the lower end grunt work.

You didn't really read my list of benefits, I'd prefer you address the points I made rather than my repeating them again and you ignoring them again. If you respond to what I already argued, we can go from there.

The first wave of IT offshoring was for customer service calls. The second wave was for fixing the issues identified by the customer service calls. The third wave was for replacing the engineers that build the products sold to Customers. The fourth wave, just starting is moving management and head quarters.

Halliburton moved its HQ to Dubai in 07

And when things go south in Dubai, who is Halliburton going to look to bail them out?

 

[Siete]

When it comes to fools, I bow to your expertise

I hand you your ass and you discredit ME ?

take your MBA to a comedy club and enjoy the laughter ... (at your expense) Bow to the crowd.

Hand me my ass? Um...OK... I have experience and education, you quoted one person who agrees with you. Wow, I'm humbled. Then you do have no nuts RKMBrown on your side.

you have experience and training ? Funny it doesn't show.

I RAN a company that posted 7 figure quarters EVERY quarter for over 15 years. I hired/fired dolts that lived on their MBA degree. Stop trying to pump up your credentials and make yourself look superior ... I'll buy your house and turn it into a pig farm.

 

[The Rabbi]

What is "Trickle Down Economics"?

Its an economic system whereby the rich get richer, the middle class gets poor and the poor lose their homes.

You just perfectly described the last 5 years under Obama and the Democrats.

 

[The Rabbi]

I hand you your ass and you discredit ME ?

take your MBA to a comedy club and enjoy the laughter ... (at your expense) Bow to the crowd.

Hand me my ass? Um...OK... I have experience and education, you quoted one person who agrees with you. Wow, I'm humbled. Then you do have no nuts RKMBrown on your side.

you have experience and training ? Funny it doesn't show.

I RAN a company that posted 7 figure quarters EVERY quarter for over 15 years. I hired/fired dolts that lived on their MBA degree. Stop trying to pump up your credentials and make yourself look superior ... I'll buy your house and turn it into a pig farm.

The only thing you ever ran was your mouth.

 

[kaz]

The first wave of IT offshoring was for customer service calls. The second wave was for fixing the issues identified by the customer service calls. The third wave was for replacing the engineers that build the products sold to Customers. The fourth wave, just starting is moving management and head quarters.

Oh fear, fear. What a coward. It is you who is destroying us, not companies that offshore.

Fear? I'm not afraid of the offshoring. I'm just not happy about it.

So we spurn economic efficiency and all go down in a suicide pact where we all protect the jobs we have until our companies go out of business.

Yeah, you're a coward. There is no status quo choice. You either embrace the future and thrive or cling to the past and fail. The socialists pick the latter, I hoped you would pick the former. I stand corrected.

 

[kaz]

I hand you your ass and you discredit ME ?

take your MBA to a comedy club and enjoy the laughter ... (at your expense) Bow to the crowd.

Hand me my ass? Um...OK... I have experience and education, you quoted one person who agrees with you. Wow, I'm humbled. Then you do have no nuts RKMBrown on your side.

you have experience and training ? Funny it doesn't show.

I RAN a company that posted 7 figure quarters EVERY quarter for over 15 years. I hired/fired dolts that lived on their MBA degree. Stop trying to pump up your credentials and make yourself look superior ... I'll buy your house and turn it into a pig farm.

I mentioned it once, you're the one who obsessed on it.

LOL, you ran a company, talk about not showing it. And that taught you to be a socialist? Sure you did...

 

[The Rabbi]

Oh fear, fear. What a coward. It is you who is destroying us, not companies that offshore.

Fear? I'm not afraid of the offshoring. I'm just not happy about it.

So we spurn economic efficiency and all go down in a suicide pact where we all protect the jobs we have until our companies go out of business.

Yeah, you're a coward. There is no status quo choice. You either embrace the future and thrive or cling to the past and fail. The socialists pick the latter, I hoped you would pick the former. I stand corrected.

If job and industry protection produced strong economies East Germany would be an economic powerhouse.

 

[Siete]

The first wave of IT offshoring was for customer service calls. The second wave was for fixing the issues identified by the customer service calls. The third wave was for replacing the engineers that build the products sold to Customers. The fourth wave, just starting is moving management and head quarters.

Halliburton moved its HQ to Dubai in 07

And when things go south in Dubai, who is Halliburton going to look to bail them out?

they're bullet proof... the Feds can't subpoena Halliburton's books now ...

 

[kaz]

Fear? I'm not afraid of the offshoring. I'm just not happy about it.

So we spurn economic efficiency and all go down in a suicide pact where we all protect the jobs we have until our companies go out of business.

Yeah, you're a coward. There is no status quo choice. You either embrace the future and thrive or cling to the past and fail. The socialists pick the latter, I hoped you would pick the former. I stand corrected.

If job and industry protection produced strong economies East Germany would be an economic powerhouse.

Exactly. You either embrace the future and thrive, or you fight it and die. There is no status quo option.

 

[RKMBrown]

I hand you your ass and you discredit ME ?

take your MBA to a comedy club and enjoy the laughter ... (at your expense) Bow to the crowd.

Hand me my ass? Um...OK... I have experience and education, you quoted one person who agrees with you. Wow, I'm humbled. Then you do have no nuts RKMBrown on your side.

you have experience and training ? Funny it doesn't show.

I RAN a company that posted 7 figure quarters EVERY quarter for over 15 years. I hired/fired dolts that lived on their MBA degree. Stop trying to pump up your credentials and make yourself look superior ... I'll buy your house and turn it into a pig farm.

I had over 500 people working for me at one time. I've run two of my own companies. I've watched and worked for the IT companies who have gone through these phases of layoffs. I've read the long term plans for how the jobs would be moved at large IT corporations. I don't feel the need to provide evidence when it's not asked for and quite frankly is widely known and published data.

I don't blame Kaz, that's his job. I've also been in the same job of training replacements for my team so we could do "more interesting" work. Only to eventually see them get laid off in the thousands when the recession hit, while the foreign workers were kept on board.

The answer to offshoring is to leave the companies who are doing it and to bury them with better products.

 

[kaz]

Halliburton moved its HQ to Dubai in 07

And when things go south in Dubai, who is Halliburton going to look to bail them out?

they're bullet proof... the Feds can't subpoena Halliburton's books now ...

Good for them. The path back to US world leadership is through a return to freedom, not oppression. Our increasingly belligerent tax code and IRS are going to take us down.