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What makes Christie such a "liberal"?
Clearly, it's because he had the nerve to "touch" this black man.
this coming from a guy who made fun of Christies weight numerous times before the Republicans started bad mouthing him.....then all of a sudden he is now an ok guy.....
Why is Christie widely considered by many republicans to be a no-good liberal?
I'm not disagreeing mind you, I'm merely asking the question because I don't know enough about his politics to endorse or rebut the notion.
But given what little I do know about him, I can say with a high degree of confidence that I'd vote for him over either Clinton or Biden.
Can anyone cite some concrete examples of his record as Governor of New Jersey that indicate he's a liberal in (over-sized) conservative clothing?
All the yaw yawing aside, imo Vox does make an interesting pt in saying it's not that Christie is a liberal, but rather his personality will not go over well outide the NE. I'm not totally sure what he means by personality. Guliani creeped me out in that I'm a southerner, and he seemed creepy. Christie doesn't do that at all. He's load, and oft times almost bullying, but he could be from Illinois or even Fla, and he wouldn't look out of his place. Rudy was strictly NYC. And so is Bloomberg.
If Vox is saying his persoanlity of accepting compromise won't play well in deeply red states, lke SC, the deep south, Utah/Idaho/Wyo ... then I thnk he's right. The other problem Christie has is that purple and blue states also have gop primaries ... and delegates.
I realize the right here is spinning the elections just as the left is, but VA nominated a guy for governor who wanted a law to let one biz owner sue another for employing illegal aliens. And, people espouse to be surprised the biz community didn't give the guy money? LOL The gop can't win these states without compromising on immigration and gay rights, but the common belief amongst the right is "no compromise." Christie supports banning psychological treatement to turn gays straight. This is a weakness to the Right! Cuchinelli supports discrimination against gays. That flies with the VA gop.
Is North Carolina really any different? I doubt it.
And, in a place like Colorado, you have basically three parties: treehugging pot smokers/microbrewers, christian fundamenalists who want a const amend defining life at conception, and pseudo-libertarians like Rand Paul. I think it will be hard for a guy like Christie to motivate the base, because basically he's a big corporate biz conservative. Jack Welch would like the guy. So would the Bushs.
I think Christie woudl be ok in a state with a big biz element, like Mich and Chi, but look what happed to Dick Luger in Indiana. If Christie can't win a primary in Indiana, can he be the nominee?
Christie is not a liberal.
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. What Governor Christie has just done is admit that if he were to become the nations 45th President, entitlement reform would be hands-off. In fact, an actual expansion would not be beyond the realm of possibility. A pattern has emerged and it is not flattering: Chris Christie is a compassionate conservative.
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repeating - I don't waste my words on leftards.^ winning hearts and minds...
It's futile
To each his own I suppose.
Personally, I find discussions with people whose views differ from my own to be more fruitful than a like-minded circle-jerk, but I'm crazy like that.
repeating - I don't waste my words on leftards.
It's futile
To each his own I suppose.
Personally, I find discussions with people whose views differ from my own to be more fruitful than a like-minded circle-jerk, but I'm crazy like that.
fruitful for WHAT?
you are not going to vote right/republican ever as I am never ever going to vote dimocrap.
what is there to discuss?
Christie is not a liberal.
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. What Governor Christie has just done is admit that if he were to become the nations 45th President, entitlement reform would be hands-off. In fact, an actual expansion would not be beyond the realm of possibility. A pattern has emerged and it is not flattering: Chris Christie is a compassionate conservative.
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He has NEVER threatened to eliminate the welfare/warfare state.
His demo publican credentials are solid.
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PS: I voted for Ron Paul in the last presidential primary and Gary Johnson in the general.
To each his own I suppose.
Personally, I find discussions with people whose views differ from my own to be more fruitful than a like-minded circle-jerk, but I'm crazy like that.
fruitful for WHAT?
you are not going to vote right/republican ever as I am never ever going to vote dimocrap.
what is there to discuss?
You know how I'm going to vote in perpetuity based on a couple of threads?
I'd like to think you're not that stupid, unfortunately I've come to learn I don't always get what I'd like.
fruitful for WHAT?
you are not going to vote right/republican ever as I am never ever going to vote dimocrap.
what is there to discuss?
You know how I'm going to vote in perpetuity based on a couple of threads?
I'd like to think you're not that stupid, unfortunately I've come to learn I don't always get what I'd like.
both of the guys, having my respect, will not have my vote as I am a very practical person and I don't waste my vote on unelectable candidate.
so, as I predicted - you will never ever vote republican
what is there to discuss?
how to lure you into the pool?
I don't see it happening.
. What Governor Christie has just done is admit that if he were to become the nations 45th President, entitlement reform would be hands-off. In fact, an actual expansion would not be beyond the realm of possibility. A pattern has emerged and it is not flattering: Chris Christie is a compassionate conservative.
.
He has NEVER threatened to eliminate the welfare/warfare state.
His demo publican credentials are solid.
.
.
you, purists, are hilarious.
He is a governor of a blue state with heavily welfare-dependent population and his first aim was to get reelected as a governor of that state. Which he achieved.
He is a politician.
He does not have to declare a war in a medieval way in order to do something when he actually gets a chance.
Have you ever played poker?
Do you show your cards to everybody playing before the game even starts?
You know how I'm going to vote in perpetuity based on a couple of threads?
I'd like to think you're not that stupid, unfortunately I've come to learn I don't always get what I'd like.
both of the guys, having my respect, will not have my vote as I am a very practical person and I don't waste my vote on unelectable candidate.
so, as I predicted - you will never ever vote republican
what is there to discuss?
how to lure you into the pool?
I don't see it happening.
I already said I'd vote for Christie over Clinton or Biden.
Oh yeah I forgot, he's not a republican either.
He has NEVER threatened to eliminate the welfare/warfare state.
His demo publican credentials are solid.
.
.
you, purists, are hilarious.
He is a governor of a blue state with heavily welfare-dependent population and his first aim was to get reelected as a governor of that state. Which he achieved.
He is a politician.
He does not have to declare a war in a medieval way in order to do something when he actually gets a chance.
Have you ever played poker?
Do you show your cards to everybody playing before the game even starts?
The Republican Party surrender caucus have been saying the same thing since 1935.
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both of the guys, having my respect, will not have my vote as I am a very practical person and I don't waste my vote on unelectable candidate.
so, as I predicted - you will never ever vote republican
what is there to discuss?
how to lure you into the pool?
I don't see it happening.
I already said I'd vote for Christie over Clinton or Biden.
Oh yeah I forgot, he's not a republican either.
you can say whatever you want I do not see it happening - based on your precise wordings on different issues. By 2016 if christie runs you will have a bunch of talking points form the left which will brainwash you in the needed direction.
you, purists, are hilarious.
He is a governor of a blue state with heavily welfare-dependent population and his first aim was to get reelected as a governor of that state. Which he achieved.
He is a politician.
He does not have to declare a war in a medieval way in order to do something when he actually gets a chance.
Have you ever played poker?
Do you show your cards to everybody playing before the game even starts?
The Republican Party surrender caucus have been saying the same thing since 1935.
.
excuse me, Grandpa, I don't care what they were saying even in 1992
it is important what the cards are playing now.
Why is Christie widely considered by many republicans to be a no-good liberal??
He's not. Some fools who would rather stomp their feet and go sit in the corner watching the democrats fuck up the country than deviate from what they consider their political 'purity' are trying to paint him as a "liberal," no matter how ridiculous and self-destructive such nonsense is.
That's definitely true.
But there is a flip side as well. Christie will likely be treated like a darling moderate republican in the press... right up until he actually wins the GOP nomination. Then they'll turn on him like you read about.
I agree completely. The problem is that the far right calls him a RINO any time he agrees with Democrats on ANYTHING. It causes them to lose credibility when they try to accuse all Democrats of marching lockstep with their party.
That is what you get from a party that doesnt try to rigerously force the party line. Democrats are far better at reigning in both thier moderates to fall in step when the party wants them to, and quieting down thier hardcores when they feel the need to. Of course they have most of the MSM quieting down any hints of democratic schism while highlighting the slightest Republican kerfluffle, so you got that as well.
The big difference is that the crazies on the left are not nearly as crazy as the crazies on the right. There is a much bigger gap between a far right conservative and a moderate Republican compared to a far left liberal and a moderate Democrat, and the reason is that far left liberals are much closer to the center than the far right conservative who is standing on the edge of the earth about to fall off.
but you will waste your vote....voting for the same old shit.....sounds practical to me....fruitful for WHAT?
you are not going to vote right/republican ever as I am never ever going to vote dimocrap.
what is there to discuss?
You know how I'm going to vote in perpetuity based on a couple of threads?
I'd like to think you're not that stupid, unfortunately I've come to learn I don't always get what I'd like.
both of the guys, having my respect, will not have my vote as I am a very practical person and I don't waste my vote on unelectable candidate.
so, as I predicted - you will never ever vote republican
what is there to discuss?
how to lure you into the pool?
I don't see it happening.
