“What Percentage Of Murders Are Committed With An AR-15?”

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Can you also list the motor vehicles that killed 40,000 people last year?

You do realize that people who committed suicide killed themselves don't you?
Who used an assault rifle to suicide?

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Who cares?

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Can you also list the motor vehicles that killed 40,000 people last year?

You do realize that people who committed suicide killed themselves don't you?
Who used an assault rifle to suicide?

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Who cares?

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You brought it up, not understanding that this is not a problem.

lol
except the subject is "murders" overall, not mass murders. so your post really makes zero difference.

as usual.
 
Rosy makes a valid point in general, but ignoring valid concerns of parents who are concerned their children may be massacred at school or in a social setting by someone with an AR-15 is frankly not helpful to 2nd amend discussions. It is the "go to" weapon for mass killings. That does not mean it should be "banned."


Yeah, let's just ignore the fact the odds of being shot by an AR on any given day is greater than 4 trillion to one. You have a better chance of hitting the Mega Million and Power Ball lotteries on the same day.


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Yet they are the chosen weapon of mass killers

Why help them get the weapon of choice
It's why they aren't to be taken seriously. They lie. Rosy doesn't have that track record imo. It's a valid point that AR-15s are not the gun used in most killings. But it's disingenuous to ignore the valid concerns of parents who send kids to school and social settings with a real fear some nut will kill a whole lot of them in one setting with an AR-15. Rosy may not have intended that. As I said, banning AR-15s is probably legal, but any benefit would outweigh the cost in terms of alienating AR-15 enthusiasts.

Today, the NRA opposes any laws to temporarily take away guns from people displaying violent, erratic behavior, unless they meet the evidentiary standard for involultary commitment. And that's the same as opposing ALL temporary gun seizures. So, imo, we should focus on areas that might do the most good. And I think this area is more likely to help than a gun ban that affects far many law abiding, sane people than criminals.
A kid wants to shoot up a school and wants the best tool for the job, we sell him an AR 15, 30 round magazines, a bump stock if he wants to impress
And the NRA opposes raising the age to 21 or even allowing an exception to let an 18 year old buy a defensive weapon. Both the Parkland kid and the current Waffle House whacko were easily identified as people who didn't need to have guns without getting a mental health checkup.

But the NRA wants to scare people with "the liberals are coming for YOUR rifle."
Gun control has never been about guns, it always been about control...
 
"What Percentage Of Murders Are Committed With An AR-15?" | Extrano's Alley
Someone came by searching for “what percentage of murders committed with AR[15.”

That number varies with the year, of course, and is in decline along with other gun related murders. Using 2014 FBI number of 11,961 ‘depraved heart murders,’ 39 of 11,961 murders, or very slightly more than 3 in 1,000 murders were reported by the media to have been committed with AR-15, AK-47, and similar firearms.

On the other hand, the number wanted is the percentage of the homicide total, which includes murder, manslaughter, and “official intervention” 91 of 14,249 homicidem> victims were killed with military style semiautomatic rifles; the majority by police SWAT teams. That is a per decimal percentage of 0.00073845 or approximately 7 per 1,000 homicides, or 0.0.7 percent.

Yet in the face of this we most remember that 40100 people were killed in auto accidents last year, and 40100 families were destroyed. So why are you so concerned with the tiny percentage of people killed by AR-15 style weapons?

Start counting by 1 and stop when you get to 40100..........

110 people a day are killed in cars, how can you not want cars and vans banned

You asked the wrong question which should be: What percentage of MASS MURDERS are committed with an AR-15
...and an ar15 is nothing more than just sporting rifle.
 
"What Percentage Of Murders Are Committed With An AR-15?" | Extrano's Alley
Someone came by searching for “what percentage of murders committed with AR[15.”

That number varies with the year, of course, and is in decline along with other gun related murders. Using 2014 FBI number of 11,961 ‘depraved heart murders,’ 39 of 11,961 murders, or very slightly more than 3 in 1,000 murders were reported by the media to have been committed with AR-15, AK-47, and similar firearms.

On the other hand, the number wanted is the percentage of the homicide total, which includes murder, manslaughter, and “official intervention” 91 of 14,249 homicidem> victims were killed with military style semiautomatic rifles; the majority by police SWAT teams. That is a per decimal percentage of 0.00073845 or approximately 7 per 1,000 homicides, or 0.0.7 percent.

Yet in the face of this we most remember that 40100 people were killed in auto accidents last year, and 40100 families were destroyed. So why are you so concerned with the tiny percentage of people killed by AR-15 style weapons?

Start counting by 1 and stop when you get to 40100..........

110 people a day are killed in cars, how can you not want cars and vans banned

You asked the wrong question which should be: What percentage of MASS MURDERS are committed with an AR-15

The largest one was by box cutter

#2 was rental truck

But, lets not get to hung up on the minutia.

#1: Semi automatic handguns - 99 used in 67 incidents
#2: Semi automatic rifles - 43 used in 35 incidents (less than 1/2 as many as handguns)
#3 Shotguns - 29 used in 23 incidents
#4 Revolvers - 23 used in 18 incidents

So Semi auto rifles were used 22.2% of the time

Source: Weapons used in mass shootings in the U.S. 1982-2017 | Statistic

OK, how can we help ya?

We're talking about GUNS now - Not airplanes, box cutters or rental trucks.

Why the AR-15 keeps appearing at America's deadliest mass shootings
Firearms have no control over people, your superstitions are for the foolish
 
We're talking about GUNS now - Not airplanes, box cutters or rental trucks.

Why the AR-15 keeps appearing at America's deadliest mass shootings
It's perfectly relevant to the discussion. People are saying we need to take guns (or certain types of guns, AKA the AR-15) away to reduce the murder rate.

If you want to acknowledge that banning AR-15s would make a tiny impact on the gun murder rate committed with AR-15s and have impacts on others (namely handguns, then other weapons like) knives then i think we could agree. Or, if you want to ban AR-15s cause you don't like the media sensationalizing mass shootings, then ok as well. Both issues could be addressed via other, more effective means that don't directly infringe upon law-abiding citizens' rights. Those are what i prefer to pursue.

I am not interested in banning assault-style rifles - Too many of them out there.

Merely want a 3 day waiting period, raising age to 21 and a VERY thorough, mandatory BG check including mental health.

So please don't look at me as another "gun grabber" - I'm fine with the second amendment but it is not without limits.
Unconstitutional, You don’t understand the issue... you don’t have the mental capacity
 
Why not do the same with refrigerators and toaster ovens? A license is when the government takes away a lawful activity from you, and then sells it back.


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You really think that is the reason for requiring a license?


Yep, it's all about government control. Let's say you want to open a convenience store, how many licenses do you think you'd would need to sell perfectly legal products?


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Fearmongering hysteria. AR's are involved with very few violent crimes. I strongly urge all Americans to read up on what Benjamin Franklin had to say about fear and safety. Folks need to tune out the usual suspect fearmongers, and stay calm. Always err on the side of Freedom & Liberty.
What did Ben have to say about AR 15 s in the hands of crazy people?

More fearmongering hysterics. Benjamin Franklin was Spot On. This banning-craze won't end well for folks. It's only dragging us closer to becoming another Totalitarian Police State.
Ben Franklin never had to deal with mass killings by teenagers

His opinions are irrelevant
Firearms have no control over people most people understand that by grade school
 
Ben Franklin never had to deal with mass killings by teenagers

His opinions are irrelevant
So, focus on the sudden, inexplicable cause of the mass killings, not the instruments used.
:dunno:

They won't because that would be an indictment of their friendly neighborhood pushers. You know, the dudes with a Medical License hanging on the wall and wears White Coats? And, it would expose their undying love of Big Pharma.

Sick really.
Excuse me dipshit, but Republicans are the ones on the take from Big Pharma. They keep extending their patents & prevent importing cheaper drugs to keep prices high to bankrupt medicare.
Big Pharma and Obamacare... same diff. They do stroke each other
 
Use your head. The goal of a mass shooter is to kill as many people as possible. The AR type rifles accomplish that goal.
 
Ben Franklin never had to deal with mass killings by teenagers

His opinions are irrelevant
So, focus on the sudden, inexplicable cause of the mass killings, not the instruments used.
:dunno:

They won't because that would be an indictment of their friendly neighborhood pushers. You know, the dudes with a Medical License hanging on the wall and wears White Coats? And, it would expose their undying love of Big Pharma.

Sick really.
Excuse me dipshit, but Republicans are the ones on the take from Big Pharma. They keep extending their patents & prevent importing cheaper drugs.

Nope, the left loves em. Big Pharma keeps your kiddies in line with all those SSRI antidepressants and ADHD drugs. No need to actually parent the lil tykes, let your buddies in Big Pharma do it for you, and if a few dozen kids get blowed up cuz of them, Oh well, you can blame the NRA

Look, is that a Rabbit?
Hundreds of millions of dollars flow to lobbyists and politicians on Capitol Hill each year to shape laws and policies that keep drug company profits growing. The pharmaceutical industry, which has about two lobbyists for every member of Congress, spent $152m on influencing legislation in 2016, according to the Center for Responsive Politics.

Drug companies also contributed more than $20m directly to political campaigns last year. About 60% went to Republicans. Paul Ryan, the speaker of the House of Representatives, was the single largest beneficiary, with donations from the industry totaling $228,670.
Big Pharma loves Obama care it makes them richer. That’s just a fact
 
Yep, it's all about government control. Let's say you want to open a convenience store, how many licenses do you think you'd would need to sell perfectly legal products?


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Fearmongering hysteria. AR's are involved with very few violent crimes. I strongly urge all Americans to read up on what Benjamin Franklin had to say about fear and safety. Folks need to tune out the usual suspect fearmongers, and stay calm. Always err on the side of Freedom & Liberty.
What did Ben have to say about AR 15 s in the hands of crazy people?

More fearmongering hysterics. Benjamin Franklin was Spot On. This banning-craze won't end well for folks. It's only dragging us closer to becoming another Totalitarian Police State.
Ben Franklin never had to deal with mass killings by teenagers

His opinions are irrelevant

Yeah, all 3 of them in 242 years. Your arguments are getting weaker by the post.


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Ben never had to deal with monthly mass killings or AR 15s
Yes, he had much bigger fish to fry because firearm violence is a non-issue in this country
 
Use your head. The goal of a mass shooter is to kill as many people as possible. The AR type rifles accomplish that goal.
Terrorists much prefer bombs and vehicles, proven in the middle east
 
They won't because that would be an indictment of their friendly neighborhood pushers. You know, the dudes with a Medical License hanging on the wall and wears White Coats? And, it would expose their undying love of Big Pharma.

Sick really.
Excuse me dipshit, but Republicans are the ones on the take from Big Pharma. They keep extending their patents & prevent importing cheaper drugs.

Nope, the left loves em. Big Pharma keeps your kiddies in line with all those SSRI antidepressants and ADHD drugs. No need to actually parent the lil tykes, let your buddies in Big Pharma do it for you, and if a few dozen kids get blowed up cuz of them, Oh well, you can blame the NRA

Look, is that a Rabbit?
Drug companies also contributed more than $20m directly to political campaigns last year. About 60% went to Republicans. Paul Ryan, the speaker of the House of Representatives, was the single largest beneficiary, with donations from the industry totaling $228,670.

Most of those funds coming from parents who put their kiddos's on mood altering, mind bending drugs.

They thank you for the support as do the rapists of the world.
Republicans are the pushers of drugs & guns for profit. They are stealing from the sick & elderly! They all need to be jailed like Pharma Bro.
Career politicians on both sides are equal in the blame, are you too dense to understand that?
 
Simple fact is that Assault weapons are the weapons of choice for mass murderers. Kids that go into their school and kill the kids they went to school with always prefer assault weapons, for the same two reasons that all men like them , they think it makes the cock bigger and you can kill many quickly.
You seem to be infatuated with cock...
Is it a personal issue?
 
"What Percentage Of Murders Are Committed With An AR-15?" | Extrano's Alley
Someone came by searching for “what percentage of murders committed with AR[15.”

That number varies with the year, of course, and is in decline along with other gun related murders. Using 2014 FBI number of 11,961 ‘depraved heart murders,’ 39 of 11,961 murders, or very slightly more than 3 in 1,000 murders were reported by the media to have been committed with AR-15, AK-47, and similar firearms.

On the other hand, the number wanted is the percentage of the homicide total, which includes murder, manslaughter, and “official intervention” 91 of 14,249 homicidem> victims were killed with military style semiautomatic rifles; the majority by police SWAT teams. That is a per decimal percentage of 0.00073845 or approximately 7 per 1,000 homicides, or 0.0.7 percent.

Yet in the face of this we most remember that 40100 people were killed in auto accidents last year, and 40100 families were destroyed. So why are you so concerned with the tiny percentage of people killed by AR-15 style weapons?

Start counting by 1 and stop when you get to 40100..........

110 people a day are killed in cars, how can you not want cars and vans banned

Correct.

If you are not a gang member who has a gun in the house, or a drug dealer, who has a gun in the house, or someone who commits suicide by a gun in your house (not sure a suicidal individual would not choose another method than a gun if it were not available), your chance of being accidentally killed via gun is 1.55 in 300,000,000.

As for rifles, not many suicides are committed using rifle and the thought that limiting the clip size would somehow limit the number of suicides????? 99.9% of gun suicides are done with 1 bullet.


Hey Pop! That was a pretty good post. Remind me to put you in a list sometime somewhere! :p

You got the check I mailed I see.......
 

Can you also list the motor vehicles that killed 40,000 people last year?

You do realize that people who committed suicide killed themselves don't you?
Who used an assault rifle to suicide?

next

Who cares?

Next
You brought it up, not understanding that this is not a problem.

lol
When people (idiots) say guns kill 40000 people a year they are including suicides so as to pad their numbers

Suicide is not a crime it is a choice and has no place in the discussion of murders or any other crimes
 
"What Percentage Of Murders Are Committed With An AR-15?" | Extrano's Alley
Someone came by searching for “what percentage of murders committed with AR[15.”

That number varies with the year, of course, and is in decline along with other gun related murders. Using 2014 FBI number of 11,961 ‘depraved heart murders,’ 39 of 11,961 murders, or very slightly more than 3 in 1,000 murders were reported by the media to have been committed with AR-15, AK-47, and similar firearms.

On the other hand, the number wanted is the percentage of the homicide total, which includes murder, manslaughter, and “official intervention” 91 of 14,249 homicidem> victims were killed with military style semiautomatic rifles; the majority by police SWAT teams. That is a per decimal percentage of 0.00073845 or approximately 7 per 1,000 homicides, or 0.0.7 percent.

Yet in the face of this we most remember that 40100 people were killed in auto accidents last year, and 40100 families were destroyed. So why are you so concerned with the tiny percentage of people killed by AR-15 style weapons?

Start counting by 1 and stop when you get to 40100..........

110 people a day are killed in cars, how can you not want cars and vans banned


The gun grabbers do not care about the number of dead......mass shooters murder fewer people each year than are killed by lawn mowers.... except for one year 2017. That is 34 years where lawn mowers killed more people than all mass shooters with guns, so the number killed with a rifle is even lower.

Knives are used to murder more people every single year than all mass public shooting deaths combined for 35 years......no call to ban knives.

Bees and Wasps kill more people than all rifles.....and more people than mass shooters do each year.

It isn't the deaths that bother the anti gunners, in fact, they need those deaths to push gun control. Anti gunners hate guns, and they hate the people who own and carry them...there is nothing rational about their demands, they do not base their demands on facts, truth or reality..... they want to ban the object they have a phobia about...
Yup we have to go through the stupidity of gun deaths compared to lawn mower deaths , that somehow makes the gun deaths acceptable to small minds.
We have much bigger fish to fry, take your pick...
2018 Real Time Death Statistics in America
 
"What Percentage Of Murders Are Committed With An AR-15?" | Extrano's Alley
Someone came by searching for “what percentage of murders committed with AR[15.”

That number varies with the year, of course, and is in decline along with other gun related murders. Using 2014 FBI number of 11,961 ‘depraved heart murders,’ 39 of 11,961 murders, or very slightly more than 3 in 1,000 murders were reported by the media to have been committed with AR-15, AK-47, and similar firearms.

On the other hand, the number wanted is the percentage of the homicide total, which includes murder, manslaughter, and “official intervention” 91 of 14,249 homicidem> victims were killed with military style semiautomatic rifles; the majority by police SWAT teams. That is a per decimal percentage of 0.00073845 or approximately 7 per 1,000 homicides, or 0.0.7 percent.

Yet in the face of this we most remember that 40100 people were killed in auto accidents last year, and 40100 families were destroyed. So why are you so concerned with the tiny percentage of people killed by AR-15 style weapons?

Start counting by 1 and stop when you get to 40100..........

110 people a day are killed in cars, how can you not want cars and vans banned

Cars don't drive themselves and typically don't deliberately kill people. That's the dumbest excuse you could possible use for mass shootings.

Look you can color your AR-15's & AK's, etc. gone. It would be very wise of you to trade them on a gun that you will be able to keep & use, or hope for an invasion.

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March for our Lives march--held on March 18, 2018. This was going on in 800 cities.

There's a blue wave coming this November.

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So remind me of the last time a gun got up shot itself and killed someone.

Go ahead dumbass, lets see this self travelling gun. Hell, sell it to the military, much cheaper than hiring a Soldier to carry one.
 
Simple fact is that Assault weapons are the weapons of choice for mass murderers. Kids that go into their school and kill the kids they went to school with always prefer assault weapons, for the same two reasons that all men like them , they think it makes the cock bigger and you can kill many quickly.

Apparently not. AR style rifles are used in roughly 22%. Pistols are used in many, many many more.
Bullshit almost all mass murders over 10 people are done with assault weapons
An ar15 is not an assault weapon, it’s just a sporting rifle nothing more nothing less. Now run run along
 

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