What REAL Christians look like

[Luddly Neddite]

I suggest that you look up the definition of the term apolitical. The rest of your response derives from your inability to comprehend the terminology.

I would suggest you read the book of Acts before you try to tell us what the church "advocates". I have heard that mindless meme of yours too many times.

The rest of your response derives from your lack of education on either subject.

The book of Acts advocates socialism. Your inability to admit to the facts clearly stated in your own bible says volumes. You are incapable of admitting that it does advocate socialism because then you would have to admit to supporting socialism. You egregiously conflate socialism with communism and that is why you have this kneejerk response.

Isn't the most basic dichotomy of "christianity"?

Jesus was a liberal socialist. He believed in helping your fellow man, taking care of each other. He didn't care about wealth and in fact, used a whip to throw out the money changers. He said you can't simultaneously serve god and money but most rw's serve money first and god is way down the list.

If there was/is a god, jesus, christ, he would be horrified at those who say they follow him because its exactly the opposite. We read the hatred here every day - hatred for the poor, for children, for the elderly, disabled, our vets and their families. A lot of the "christians" here hate those people and would cheerfully let them starve on the streets.

This is what I'm talking about when I say "fake christians".

 

[koshergrl]

I find it ludicrous that assholes who start a thread about "this is what REAL christians look like" think anybody gives a shit what they think about them.

It comes down to this: You're hypocritical and you're liars. You think the state should dictate religion, hence your desire to tie religion and politics. Under our current system, the state exerts little to no control over religion...unhappy with that state, you seek to tie religion to politics, in order to facilitate the prosecution and silencing of huge swaths of the American christian population.

I've been accused of preaching REPEATEDLY in this thread...which is a thread DEDICATED to asshole progressives telling other Christians how they must behave...and citing scripture at them! PREACHING.

So you seem to believe ONLY progressives should be allowed to tell others how to believe, and how to express their faith. Everybody else must be silenced.

Which is not news to me...but I do like to see you own it.

 

[Quantum Windbag]

I don't need to cross-post. Being a dishonest hack, you (and luds) would just claim that it doesn't prove anything or carry on as if you never saw it. The people I care about know it's true. The rest...meh, you're just...well, dishonest hacks.

Since I am the primary one making the socialism case and you cannot provide a single link backing up your allegation against me about Bundy I am going to take that as your admission of being wrong even if you cannot bring yourself to admit as much.

Even if it is true that you are the one primarily making the asinine claim, does that somehow create a magic exemption for the rest of the people making that claim?

 

[Quantum Windbag]

I said people immediately point the finger at me as if that excuses the rejection of the Fruits by them when these are their scriptures, not mine.
You fell right in line.
Perfect 100% record, and I didn't even direct this at you.
You volunteered to be my exemplar.

I don't reject the fruits of the Spirit, I just haven't reached that level of beatification. Neither have you, so I don't know where you get off judging me. I don't even think you understand what Paul was talking about. You don't understand much else about the faith.

Of all the Jewish laws and all the commands of Jesus, you have to pick something from Paul, which I thought was a little odd. If you want to quote Paul, why don't we talk about what Paul said about homosexuality? You wouldn't like that at all, would you? Is this just more cherry picking?

More tortured avoidance.
It is like a Pavlov experiment.
Mention the Fruits to a professed Christian and it is like pouring salt on a snail.
You attack me, not the argument. You first say that the Fruits are something that will happen to you, rather than a reflection of your relationship to god. You pretend I don't understand the verse. You denigrate Paul as a lesser scriptural voice. Then you seek to change the topic to avoid it.
All without this ever being directed at you.
Hilarious.

Funny how you haven't actually dealt with anything I said to you. Is there a reason for that, other than the fact that I proved you were a lying sack of shit?

 

[koshergrl]

Oh and here we go with the "Christ was progressive"...the Nazis claimed that Christ was a Nazi. You're no different.

 

[Mertex]

Never fails....all that most conservatives can do is go vitriolic and call names because they can't even act civil in a debate. And then you are trying to proclaim Christianity. That is hilarious. Calling people nutwads, loons, libtards, and dumb, just makes you and Clement a perfect example of who should not proclaim to be Christians.

I am going to listen to YOUR advice on Christian living? It's really simple - if you come in here and act like a jackass you're going to get treated like one. Act like a lady or a gentleman and you'll get treated like one of those.

Yes, because that is what Jesus taught us, right? Jesus said, when someone treats you bad, you treat them bad right back, and if they say something you don't agree with, you go ahead and treat them bad. Call them scum, loons, libtards, moonbats, etc., because that is what a Christian is supposed to do. I get you, loud and clear.

Look at the title of the thread, then go back over your posts and see how you match up.

 

[Quantum Windbag]

Which proves how undisciplined a thinker, and how stupid you really are.

I didn't refer just to you. And I admit no such thing. You loons blatantly lie and post crap threads like this, pretending to be serious...but it's just a ploy to engage your opponents in meaningless and time consuming searches...and when all the material is presented (as it always is) and you are made to look a fool, you just change the subject.

It's like dealing with children. I wish just one of you was my intellectual equal. As it is, I could put my 10 year old on this garbage, if I wasn't afraid for his safety online, and HE'D route your ass.

If you check the thread you will find that I was the only person to provide any substance in the form of direct quotations from the books of Acts. Neither you nor anyone else was able to refute that they were advocating socialism. Instead the responses ranged from baseless allegations about not having read the book of Acts to outright ludicrous hyperbole about taxation being theft by the government.

You then made a baseless allegation that those who were posting about the Bible's advocacy of socialism, namely myself, had "screeched that Bundy should have been shot". When challenged to prove that you accused me of dishonesty followed by a further allegation of stupidity.

The thread speaks for itself. No one has refuted anything that I have posted and none of the allegations against me have been substantiated either.

Instead I have made a point of sticking to the OP and pointing out how the socialism in the book of Acts is in full accordance with the actions of the Sisters themselves.

Now this is where you neg rep me because you cannot refute anything that I have just posted.

Believe it or not, the universe doesn't revolve around your pea sized brain. If you check the entire board you will see that you are far from the only moron to have made that claim.

 

[thebrucebeat]

I don't reject the fruits of the Spirit, I just haven't reached that level of beatification. Neither have you, so I don't know where you get off judging me. I don't even think you understand what Paul was talking about. You don't understand much else about the faith.

Of all the Jewish laws and all the commands of Jesus, you have to pick something from Paul, which I thought was a little odd. If you want to quote Paul, why don't we talk about what Paul said about homosexuality? You wouldn't like that at all, would you? Is this just more cherry picking?

More tortured avoidance.
It is like a Pavlov experiment.
Mention the Fruits to a professed Christian and it is like pouring salt on a snail.
You attack me, not the argument. You first say that the Fruits are something that will happen to you, rather than a reflection of your relationship to god. You pretend I don't understand the verse. You denigrate Paul as a lesser scriptural voice. Then you seek to change the topic to avoid it.
All without this ever being directed at you.
Hilarious.

Funny how you haven't actually dealt with anything I said to you. Is there a reason for that, other than the fact that I proved you were a lying sack of shit?

But I did.
I asked you to cite the lie.
Have you?

 

[koshergrl]

"Do this" "Do that"

 

[thebrucebeat]

I wonder how many of these people go into a church and pick fights with the minister, go to functions where Christians are, go to parties and start arguments, or act like jackasses in real life. The answer is none, because they know if they did they'd get shown the door or otherwise get knocked on their asses.

They are just so small and impotent they can't make themselves feel powerful any other way but to come here and start trouble. I've had it, they're too nuts for me.

You've had it because you have been shown up very badly.
See ya.

 

[Clement]

I am going to listen to YOUR advice on Christian living? It's really simple - if you come in here and act like a jackass you're going to get treated like one. Act like a lady or a gentleman and you'll get treated like one of those.

Yes, because that is what Jesus taught us, right? Jesus said, when someone treats you bad, you treat them bad right back, and if they say something you don't agree with, you go ahead and treat them bad. Call them scum, loons, libtards, moonbats, etc., because that is what a Christian is supposed to do. I get you, loud and clear.

Look at the title of the thread, then go back over your posts and see how you match up.

Jesus wasn't above telling liars and hypocrites off. Ask the Pharisees. It's simple: act like a lady/gentleman and you won't have any trouble from us.

 

[Clement]

I wonder how many of these people go into a church and pick fights with the minister, go to functions where Christians are, go to parties and start arguments, or act like jackasses in real life. The answer is none, because they know if they did they'd get shown the door or otherwise get knocked on their asses.

They are just so small and impotent they can't make themselves feel powerful any other way but to come here and start trouble. I've had it, they're too nuts for me.

You've had it because you have been shown up very badly.
See ya.

Not by you, Quantum maybe, he's shown me how it's done.

 

[thebrucebeat]

Contemplatives live a life of prayer. A lot of people think prayer is the most powerful service there is. To call them "selfish" is idiotic, but then, we don't get a lot of theological geniuses here.

You mean like Quantum Windbag, who clearly takes the Fruits to heart in his dealings with posters he sees as disposable creatures, using profanity as his theological baseline.
This is your ally.

I do not see that but where is the fruit of the Spirit in your life? Love, Joy, Peace, Patience, Kindness, Gentleness, Long Suffering, hardly noticing when others get it wrong? Sound familiar? You are like the morality police here, Bruce. Who appointed you? The accuser of the brethren. That's who.

Still at 100%!
Another who attacks me by trying to hold me accountable to their scriptures, while excusing the rejection of them by those who profess them to be god's word.
You guys never, EVER fail to embarrass yourselves.

 

[Quantum Windbag]

The premise of Christianity is that each man chooses to surrender.

Individually.

In the name of God, personally, and to God...not the state. Christ flogged the money changers, remember.

Christ never touched the money changers.
Read it again.
If you can cite the verse, do it.
Otherwise, retract and apologize to your god.

Define touch.

Mathew 21:12 and Mark 11:15 uses the verb ekballō, which is translated as cast out, which implies the use of force. They also use the verb katastrephō, and I bet even you can figure out what English word we derive from that. Sounds like a peaceful protest to me.

Then we have John 2:15, which clearly says he made a scourge of small ropes and drove them out of the temple. But, by all means, keep pretending you were a minister at some point in your life filled with pathetic lies.

 

[Clement]

You mean like Quantum Windbag, who clearly takes the Fruits to heart in his dealings with posters he sees as disposable creatures, using profanity as his theological baseline.
This is your ally.

I do not see that but where is the fruit of the Spirit in your life? Love, Joy, Peace, Patience, Kindness, Gentleness, Long Suffering, hardly noticing when others get it wrong? Sound familiar? You are like the morality police here, Bruce. Who appointed you? The accuser of the brethren. That's who.

Still at 100%!
Another who attacks me by trying to hold me accountable to their scriptures, while excusing the rejection of them by those who profess them to be god's word.
You guys never, EVER fail to embarrass yourselves.

Baghdad Bruce. I like the sound of that.

 

[Quantum Windbag]

I said people immediately point the finger at me as if that excuses the rejection of the Fruits by them when these are their scriptures, not mine.
You fell right in line.
Perfect 100% record, and I didn't even direct this at you.
You volunteered to be my exemplar.

I am a smart ass fuckwad, that doesn't change the fact that you are a lying sack of shit scumbag Sadducee, does it?

What was the lie?

Are you telling me that you have never told a lie? Please make that claim s I can laugh at you because everyone lies.

The specific one I was thinking of in this post is your lie that Jeremiah was using Scriptures to make a political point.

 

[thebrucebeat]

Which proves how undisciplined a thinker, and how stupid you really are.

I didn't refer just to you. And I admit no such thing. You loons blatantly lie and post crap threads like this, pretending to be serious...but it's just a ploy to engage your opponents in meaningless and time consuming searches...and when all the material is presented (as it always is) and you are made to look a fool, you just change the subject.

It's like dealing with children. I wish just one of you was my intellectual equal. As it is, I could put my 10 year old on this garbage, if I wasn't afraid for his safety online, and HE'D route your ass.

Would your 10 year old have the intellectual courage to support their argument with what should be a very easily cited quotation?
If so go get him.
Daddy is humiliating himself.

Oh, you mean like I already did? As I said, you ignore the truth and you lie.Yes my 10 year old son would pwn you, but as his MOTHER I feel obligated to protect him from the perverts (who oddly, are also progressive) who haunt these forums.

Where is the cited quote? I can't find it.
Happy Mother's Day!

 

[thebrucebeat]

I don't reject the fruits of the Spirit, I just haven't reached that level of beatification. Neither have you, so I don't know where you get off judging me. I don't even think you understand what Paul was talking about. You don't understand much else about the faith.

Of all the Jewish laws and all the commands of Jesus, you have to pick something from Paul, which I thought was a little odd. If you want to quote Paul, why don't we talk about what Paul said about homosexuality? You wouldn't like that at all, would you? Is this just more cherry picking?

More tortured avoidance.
It is like a Pavlov experiment.
Mention the Fruits to a professed Christian and it is like pouring salt on a snail.
You attack me, not the argument. You first say that the Fruits are something that will happen to you, rather than a reflection of your relationship to god. You pretend I don't understand the verse. You denigrate Paul as a lesser scriptural voice. Then you seek to change the topic to avoid it.
All without this ever being directed at you.
Hilarious.

Quit whining, Brucie, nobody "attacked" you. I am just sick of your dishonesty, and so is everybody else. I asked you a question, why don't you answer it?

So give me your Baghdad Bob answer: "I win - there are no Americans in Baghdad!

Haven't been the least bit dishonest. Can you cite where I have been?
Or are you just tired of being shown up as an intellectual toddler?

 

[thebrucebeat]

You mean like Quantum Windbag, who clearly takes the Fruits to heart in his dealings with posters he sees as disposable creatures, using profanity as his theological baseline.
This is your ally.

I do not see that but where is the fruit of the Spirit in your life? Love, Joy, Peace, Patience, Kindness, Gentleness, Long Suffering, hardly noticing when others get it wrong? Sound familiar? You are like the morality police here, Bruce. Who appointed you? The accuser of the brethren. That's who.

And we know who that is, don't we? You should explain in to Brucie, he has little to no religious education.

We're lucky that progressive scum still don't have the power to punish us for not adhering to their idea of what our faith should be then, aren't we?

Eat glass. You people are scum and we are past feeling obligated to spare your feelings. You're a menace, a threat, and we are fed up with trying to accomodate your perverted sense of how people should live and worship

It isn't what we say.
It is what your scriptures say.
Forgive 7x70 times.
Let the Frits guide your behavior.
Or don't.
But don't blame those that know what is expected of you, or notice how unconcerned you are about abiding by it.

I do forgive you.

But I don't have to tolerate your rhetoric, or support your depravity. I don't have to fail to notice that you're lying, disgusting, and a threat to all humanity. I can forgive you and still decry your behavior.

So don't worry, I forgive you. That doesn't mean I will stand by and do nothing while you trample human rights.

PS...I don't answer to you. You loons expend a lot of energy on message boards telling Christians how they're supposed to tow the progressive line. It means nothing to us. We don't answer to you.

And that makes you crazy. As this thread proves. Over and over again.

What is really amazing, and I never get tired of watching...is that as you're preaching about *proper* christian behavior and belief, you're criticizing us for preaching to YOU.

I never get tired of it. Which is good, because it happens continually.

So Clement thinks I am Satan's spawn and the Kosher Queen thinks I am a threat to all humanity!
My, my!
And you guys think I'm crazy?
LOL!

 

[Clement]

I do not see that but where is the fruit of the Spirit in your life? Love, Joy, Peace, Patience, Kindness, Gentleness, Long Suffering, hardly noticing when others get it wrong? Sound familiar? You are like the morality police here, Bruce. Who appointed you? The accuser of the brethren. That's who.

And we know who that is, don't we? You should explain in to Brucie, he has little to no religious education.

It isn't what we say.
It is what your scriptures say.
Forgive 7x70 times.
Let the Frits guide your behavior.
Or don't.
But don't blame those that know what is expected of you, or notice how unconcerned you are about abiding by it.

I do forgive you.

But I don't have to tolerate your rhetoric, or support your depravity. I don't have to fail to notice that you're lying, disgusting, and a threat to all humanity. I can forgive you and still decry your behavior.

So don't worry, I forgive you. That doesn't mean I will stand by and do nothing while you trample human rights.

PS...I don't answer to you. You loons expend a lot of energy on message boards telling Christians how they're supposed to tow the progressive line. It means nothing to us. We don't answer to you.

And that makes you crazy. As this thread proves. Over and over again.

What is really amazing, and I never get tired of watching...is that as you're preaching about *proper* christian behavior and belief, you're criticizing us for preaching to YOU.

I never get tired of it. Which is good, because it happens continually.

So Clement thinks I am Satan's spawn...

No, I think you're just another message board jerk with an exaggerated opinion of himself who was probably bullied as a child.