What should the wealthy do? Libs How should they be sharing there wealth?

[Vox]

No such thing as exploited workers?!? Climbing down from the ivory tower or, alternatively pulling your head from whatever orifice it is firmly planted in will reveal some stark truths i.e. pension plans eroded, hours cut, safety equipment missing or broken or never obtained are all examples of how the greedy accumulate wealth by exploiting workers. It happens every day in every corner of the country to every group except the workers in the executive suite.

Nope. no such thing. Forget Marx and his Capital. It is XXI century, dude.

I cannot make a rational argument to an ostrich.

which you are YOURSELF.

if you want to have a reasonable argument do not start with bogus claims if you want to be taken seriously.
It is not an OWS payed rally

 

[Political Junky]

They kept it?

To do what with it? Can you sleep with money?

Can you eat it?

Can you jump in your money and drive around town in it?

Can you drink it?

Can you kiss it or have it kiss you back?

Can you stick up your ass and whistle Dixie with it?

I just don't understand how some people think.

Or don't think

Ask Mitt Romney how he keeps his money

Hint: It doesn't involve hiring millions of Americans

His wealth does
That money is invested into places that creates wealth, thence creates jobs
what would have Mitt do?
give it away
at some point in time that wealth was income and was taxed accordingly

The only reason you and I are not rich?
we do not have enough wealth to get started

Again do you want Mitt to give away hiis wealth?

The money that Mitt hides offshore creates no jobs. It just takes money out of circulation.

 

[Nosmo King]

Nope. no such thing. Forget Marx and his Capital. It is XXI century, dude.

I cannot make a rational argument to an ostrich.

which you are YOURSELF.

if you want to have a reasonable argument do not start with bogus claims if you want to be taken seriously.
It is not an OWS payed rally

Exploiting the environment:

A three-judge panel in Wheeling, West Virginia yesterday denied Massey Energy’s requests to dismiss a law suit alleging that the company contaminated multiple water supplies by dumping more than 1 billion gallons of toxic coal slurry into worked-out underground coal mines between 1978 and 1987. After a “contentious day-long hearing,” the judges denied requests to sanction the coal company for taking too long to produce evidence but allowed the trial to continue despite a detailed request for dismissal from the company.

More than 700 residents of four West Virginia towns allege that Massey and one of its subsidiaries dumped 1.4 billion gallons of slurry — the by-product of washing coal to make it “cleaner” — into the abandoned underground mines. The residents’ lead attorney, Van Bunch, claimed that Massey continued pumping the slurry underground even though the company knew it would leak into the water supply.

Exploiting workers:

The National Labor Relations Board has ordered coal mine operator Massey Energy Co. to hire dozens of union workers who were refused employment after the company took over a West Virginia site from a bankrupt rival.

NLRB administrative law Judge Paul Bogas ruled on Monday that Massey subsidiary Mammoth Coal Co. had discriminated against the miners on the basis of their affiliation with the United Mine Workers of America union.

The judge ruled that Mammoth violated federal employment laws by refusing to hire the unionized employees after it bought the Cannelton mine from Horizon Natural Resources Company. About 250 mine workers lost their job when Massey took over.

Judge Bogas said there was direct evidence that Mammoth was motivated by its parent company's anti-union bias. Sworn testimony of a Mammoth official showed that Massey made it known that its subsidiary's operations would be “union free.”

“The evidence demonstrates the existence of an undisguised culture of animosity towards the union and union activity at Mammoth and Massey and shows that this anti-union animus influenced hiring decisions at Mammoth,” Judge Bogas said.

Exploiting worker safety:

Kenny Dobbins was hired by the Monfort Beef Company in 1979. He was 24 years old, and 6 foot 5, and had no fear of the hard work in a slaughterhouse. He seemed invincible. Over the next two decades he suffered injuries working for Monfort that would have crippled or killed lesser men. He was struck by a falling 90-pound box of meat and pinned against the steel lip of a conveyor belt. He blew out a disc and had back surgery. He inhaled too much chlorine while cleaning some blood tanks and spent a month in the hospital, his lungs burned, his body covered in blisters. He damaged the rotator cuff in his left shoulder when a 10,000-pound hammer-mill cover dropped too quickly and pulled his arm straight backward. He broke a leg after stepping into a hole in the slaughterhouse's concrete floor. He got hit by a slow-moving train behind the plant, got bloodied and knocked right out of his boots, spent two weeks in the hospital, then returned to work. He shattered an ankle and had it mended with four steel pins. He got more bruises and cuts, muscle pulls and strains than he could remember.

Despite all the injuries and the pain, the frequent trips to the hospital and the metal brace that now supported one leg, Dobbins felt intensely loyal to Monfort and Con-Agra, its parent company. He'd left home at the age of 13 and never learned to read; Monfort had given him a steady job, and he was willing to do whatever the company asked. He moved from Grand Island, Nebraska, to Greeley, Colorado, to help Monfort reopen its slaughterhouse there without a union. He became an outspoken member of a group formed to keep union organizers out. He saved the life of a fellow worker—and was given a framed certificate of appreciation. And then, in December 1995, Dobbins felt a sharp pain in his chest while working in the plant. He thought it was a heart attack. According to Dobbins, the company nurse told him it was a muscle pull and sent him home. It was a heart attack, and Dobbins nearly died. While awaiting compensation for his injuries, he was fired. The company later agreed to pay him a settlement of $35,000.

But saying there is absolutely nothing to exploitation anymore is primarily irresponsible and wholly ignorant of the state of the workplace today. But I suspect that such stories serve to erode the confidence you have in the beneficence of the executive suite. Their infallibility is shattered by the truth.

 

[Vox]

I cannot make a rational argument to an ostrich.

which you are YOURSELF.

if you want to have a reasonable argument do not start with bogus claims if you want to be taken seriously.
It is not an OWS payed rally

Exploiting the environment:



Exploiting workers:

The National Labor Relations Board has ordered coal mine operator Massey Energy Co. to hire dozens of union workers who were refused employment after the company took over a West Virginia site from a bankrupt rival.

NLRB administrative law Judge Paul Bogas ruled on Monday that Massey subsidiary Mammoth Coal Co. had discriminated against the miners on the basis of their affiliation with the United Mine Workers of America union.

The judge ruled that Mammoth violated federal employment laws by refusing to hire the unionized employees after it bought the Cannelton mine from Horizon Natural Resources Company. About 250 mine workers lost their job when Massey took over.

Judge Bogas said there was direct evidence that Mammoth was motivated by its parent company's anti-union bias. Sworn testimony of a Mammoth official showed that Massey made it known that its subsidiary's operations would be “union free.”

“The evidence demonstrates the existence of an undisguised culture of animosity towards the union and union activity at Mammoth and Massey and shows that this anti-union animus influenced hiring decisions at Mammoth,” Judge Bogas said.

Exploiting worker safety:

Kenny Dobbins was hired by the Monfort Beef Company in 1979. He was 24 years old, and 6 foot 5, and had no fear of the hard work in a slaughterhouse. He seemed invincible. Over the next two decades he suffered injuries working for Monfort that would have crippled or killed lesser men. He was struck by a falling 90-pound box of meat and pinned against the steel lip of a conveyor belt. He blew out a disc and had back surgery. He inhaled too much chlorine while cleaning some blood tanks and spent a month in the hospital, his lungs burned, his body covered in blisters. He damaged the rotator cuff in his left shoulder when a 10,000-pound hammer-mill cover dropped too quickly and pulled his arm straight backward. He broke a leg after stepping into a hole in the slaughterhouse's concrete floor. He got hit by a slow-moving train behind the plant, got bloodied and knocked right out of his boots, spent two weeks in the hospital, then returned to work. He shattered an ankle and had it mended with four steel pins. He got more bruises and cuts, muscle pulls and strains than he could remember.

Despite all the injuries and the pain, the frequent trips to the hospital and the metal brace that now supported one leg, Dobbins felt intensely loyal to Monfort and Con-Agra, its parent company. He'd left home at the age of 13 and never learned to read; Monfort had given him a steady job, and he was willing to do whatever the company asked. He moved from Grand Island, Nebraska, to Greeley, Colorado, to help Monfort reopen its slaughterhouse there without a union. He became an outspoken member of a group formed to keep union organizers out. He saved the life of a fellow worker—and was given a framed certificate of appreciation. And then, in December 1995, Dobbins felt a sharp pain in his chest while working in the plant. He thought it was a heart attack. According to Dobbins, the company nurse told him it was a muscle pull and sent him home. It was a heart attack, and Dobbins nearly died. While awaiting compensation for his injuries, he was fired. The company later agreed to pay him a settlement of $35,000.

But saying there is absolutely nothing to exploitation anymore is primarily irresponsible and wholly ignorant of the state of the workplace today. But I suspect that such stories serve to erode the confidence you have in the beneficence of the executive suite. Their infallibility is shattered by the truth.

libtard blah-blah-blah

stop exploiting the Internet !

 

[Vox]

The money that Mitt hides offshore creates no jobs. It just takes money out of circulation.

It's HIS money. Stop being envious. Earn your own and hide it offshore.

 

[DiamondDave]

Refusing to hire is not exploitation... whether you, or the pandering morons in DC, or the unions, or whomever else thinks people are entitled to a job, you simply are not... using unions as a strike against exploitation is laughable..

Oh.. and the use of winger sites like motherjones, stinkprogress, etc is not going to boost your stance..

 

[Nosmo King]

1) Yet you attribute greed to illegal activity.. and this is not inherently true
2) You are assuming greed is easy or makes it easier to succeed.. also not inherently true
3) When one is free to work somewhere else, shop somewhere else, invest somewhere else.. they are not being 'exploited'

I would hope that responsible Americans could all agree that the old way of making a fortune by inventing something or producing something is preferable to the new way of making a fortune: making a killing on Wall Street. Because the new way does not provide jobs and opportunity, it only provides wealth for the very, very few.

How do you make a 'Killing On Wall Street"?

Is it some deep, dark mysterious secret that only the gnomes deep in the bowels of Broad Street know about?

Are these people schooled by Magic Elves?

How, exactly, do you do that?

You have no clue, do you?

About much of anything.

A couple pages ago, someone was complaining that there was no way he (or she) could ever get rich because he had no money to invest.

Money isn't that tough to get a hold of.

What's tough to get hold of is ideas.

If you have an idea, and you put it on paper, you take the idea to a Venture Capital Firm. Like Romney's old Firm, Bain.

If they like it, they'll front you the money. They'll help you find engineers, marketing, manufacturing and distribution.

A lot of times, in China.

I'll tell you how that works in China some time soon.

The problem is, something like 75% of all Venture Capital start-ups fail, so the people lending the money take a big bite.

Still, it's better than nothing.

You people on the left? You don't get it.

Because you don't WANT to get it.

Because, frankly, you're stupid.

Don't take that personal-like.

You just are.

It's your choice. You don't have to be. You CHOOSE to be

If you can bag the patronizing and the unfounded screeds about stupidity (something you are no doubt highly familiar with) perhaps you can consider this:

You enter the commodities market with the notion to buy crude oil. Your trading and speculating makes the price of oil rise. You have no facilities to store the oil you bought. In fact you never intended to take delivery. All you wanted was to use the market as one might use a casino. Your actions effect millions who now see rising gasoline prices. Your actions produced NOTHING but profit for yourself while those in your wake are made to suffer. `

And that's greed. That's marketplace exploitation. And that's something some ill-begotten Conservatives think is just great for the economy! I wonder why that is?

 

[Edgetho]

Who was the libtard douche-nozzle that said something like, "I don't believe in hunting. That's why I buy my meat at the Grocery store because no animals have to be hurt in the process."

Remember that one?

I'm not kidding, libtards are....

 

[Vox]

Refusing to hire is not exploitation... whether you, or the pandering morons in DC, or the unions, or whomever else thinks people are entitled to a job, you simply are not... using unions as a strike against exploitation is laughable..

Oh.. and the use of winger sites like motherjones, stinkprogress, etc is not going to boost your stance..

the guy has problems with English words

 

[Edgetho]

I would hope that responsible Americans could all agree that the old way of making a fortune by inventing something or producing something is preferable to the new way of making a fortune: making a killing on Wall Street. Because the new way does not provide jobs and opportunity, it only provides wealth for the very, very few.

How do you make a 'Killing On Wall Street"?

Is it some deep, dark mysterious secret that only the gnomes deep in the bowels of Broad Street know about?

Are these people schooled by Magic Elves?

How, exactly, do you do that?

You have no clue, do you?

About much of anything.

A couple pages ago, someone was complaining that there was no way he (or she) could ever get rich because he had no money to invest.

Money isn't that tough to get a hold of.

What's tough to get hold of is ideas.

If you have an idea, and you put it on paper, you take the idea to a Venture Capital Firm. Like Romney's old Firm, Bain.

If they like it, they'll front you the money. They'll help you find engineers, marketing, manufacturing and distribution.

A lot of times, in China.

I'll tell you how that works in China some time soon.

The problem is, something like 75% of all Venture Capital start-ups fail, so the people lending the money take a big bite.

Still, it's better than nothing.

You people on the left? You don't get it.

Because you don't WANT to get it.

Because, frankly, you're stupid.

Don't take that personal-like.

You just are.

It's your choice. You don't have to be. You CHOOSE to be

If you can bag the patronizing and the unfounded screeds about stupidity (something you are no doubt highly familiar with) perhaps you can consider this:

You enter the commodities market with the notion to buy crude oil. Your trading and speculating makes the price of oil rise. You have no facilities to store the oil you bought. In fact you never intended to take delivery. All you wanted was to use the market as one might use a casino. Your actions effect millions who now see rising gasoline prices. Your actions produced NOTHING but profit for yourself while those in your wake are made to suffer. `

And that's greed. That's marketplace exploitation. And that's something some ill-begotten Conservatives think is just great for the economy! I wonder why that is?

Then do it yourself.

Become a Day-Trader.

Short some stocks.

You can short Oil, too. But that ones a little tougher. More than a little tougher, but it can be done.

Oil Futures trading is almost always buying 'long'. That kind of speculation is different and is probably a little rich for your blood, but you can still do it if you're willing to risk everything you own, everything your parents own, everything your wife owns and everything her parents and everything you will ever own.

Go for it.

Oil Futures guarantee a price to the end user who has to figure out the cost of production -- Now, for use down the road. Oil Futures are sold as much as twelve years into the future.

If it's so easy... Do it yourself.

You're so fucking smart, do it.

Let me know how you make out. Don't call collect.

And if you think it's all just about 'gambling' odds are you'll not only end up broke but in Prison as well.

 

[Wyatt earp]

I would hope that responsible Americans could all agree that the old way of making a fortune by inventing something or producing something is preferable to the new way of making a fortune: making a killing on Wall Street. Because the new way does not provide jobs and opportunity, it only provides wealth for the very, very few.

How do you make a 'Killing On Wall Street"?

Is it some deep, dark mysterious secret that only the gnomes deep in the bowels of Broad Street know about?

Are these people schooled by Magic Elves?

How, exactly, do you do that?

You have no clue, do you?

About much of anything.

A couple pages ago, someone was complaining that there was no way he (or she) could ever get rich because he had no money to invest.

Money isn't that tough to get a hold of.

What's tough to get hold of is ideas.

If you have an idea, and you put it on paper, you take the idea to a Venture Capital Firm. Like Romney's old Firm, Bain.

If they like it, they'll front you the money. They'll help you find engineers, marketing, manufacturing and distribution.

A lot of times, in China.

I'll tell you how that works in China some time soon.

The problem is, something like 75% of all Venture Capital start-ups fail, so the people lending the money take a big bite.

Still, it's better than nothing.

You people on the left? You don't get it.

Because you don't WANT to get it.

Because, frankly, you're stupid.

Don't take that personal-like.

You just are.

It's your choice. You don't have to be. You CHOOSE to be

If you can bag the patronizing and the unfounded screeds about stupidity (something you are no doubt highly familiar with) perhaps you can consider this:

You enter the commodities market with the notion to buy crude oil. Your trading and speculating makes the price of oil rise. You have no facilities to store the oil you bought. In fact you never intended to take delivery. All you wanted was to use the market as one might use a casino. Your actions effect millions who now see rising gasoline prices. Your actions produced NOTHING but profit for yourself while those in your wake are made to suffer. `

And that's greed. That's marketplace exploitation. And that's something some ill-begotten Conservatives think is just great for the economy! I wonder why that is?

Law cannot prescribe morality, it can prescribe only external actions and therefore it should prescribe only those actions whose mere fulfillment, from whatever motive, the state adjudges to be conducive to welfare. What actions are these? Obviously such actions as promote the physical and social conditions requisite for the expression and development of free—or moral—personality.... Law does not and cannot cover all the ground of morality. To turn all moral obligations into legal obligations would be to destroy morality. Happily it is impossible. No code of law can envisage the myriad changing situations that determine moral obligations. Moreover, there must be one legal code for all, but moral codes vary as much as the individual characters of which they are the expression. To legislate against the moral codes of one’s fellows is a very grave act, requiring for its justification the most indubitable and universally admitted of social gains, for it is to steal their moral codes, to suppress their characters. ~R.M. MacIver (1882–1970), Scottish sociologist, educator.

 

[Vox]

Law cannot prescribe morality, it can prescribe only external actions and therefore it should prescribe only those actions whose mere fulfillment, from whatever motive, the state adjudges to be conducive to welfare. What actions are these? Obviously such actions as promote the physical and social conditions requisite for the expression and development of free—or moral—personality.... Law does not and cannot cover all the ground of morality. To turn all moral obligations into legal obligations would be to destroy morality. Happily it is impossible. No code of law can envisage the myriad changing situations that determine moral obligations. Moreover, there must be one legal code for all, but moral codes vary as much as the individual characters of which they are the expression. To legislate against the moral codes of one’s fellows is a very grave act, requiring for its justification the most indubitable and universally admitted of social gains, for it is to steal their moral codes, to suppress their characters. ~R.M. MacIver (1882–1970), Scottish sociologist, educator.

I do not think he will understand. Somebody somewhere brainwashed him that he can be "exploited" when not hired or he is "exploited" when he willingly stays at his job and is not looking elsewhere, or that building a plant in an open space is "exploiting the environment" or any other BS of the like.
The guy doesn't want to involve his mental abilities just parrots the nonsense of the brainwashers.
As if everybody around owes him anything.
The other one of the same mentality is complaining about "evil" Walmart but is not moving a pinkie to change his life HIMSELF

 

[boedicca]

Wealthy Libs who advocate for Sharing The Wealth should donate their own money to whatever causes they support. If they advocate for increased taxes, they should pay more than they legally owe.

 

[Edgetho]

Law cannot prescribe morality, it can prescribe only external actions and therefore it should prescribe only those actions whose mere fulfillment, from whatever motive, the state adjudges to be conducive to welfare. What actions are these? Obviously such actions as promote the physical and social conditions requisite for the expression and development of free—or moral—personality.... Law does not and cannot cover all the ground of morality. To turn all moral obligations into legal obligations would be to destroy morality. Happily it is impossible. No code of law can envisage the myriad changing situations that determine moral obligations. Moreover, there must be one legal code for all, but moral codes vary as much as the individual characters of which they are the expression. To legislate against the moral codes of one’s fellows is a very grave act, requiring for its justification the most indubitable and universally admitted of social gains, for it is to steal their moral codes, to suppress their characters. ~R.M. MacIver (1882–1970), Scottish sociologist, educator.

I do not think he will understand. Somebody somewhere brainwashed him that he can be "exploited" when not hired or he is "exploited" when he willingly stays at his job and is not looking elsewhere, or that building a plant in an open space is "exploiting the environment" or any other BS of the like.
The guy doesn't want to involve his mental abilities just parrots the nonsense of the brainwashers.
As if everybody around owes him anything.
The other one of the same mentality is complaining about "evil" Walmart but is not moving a pinkie to change his life HIMSELF

And they wonder why they can't get anywhere in life?

I feel badly for their family, if they have one.

But not for them.

Pathetic

 

[g5000]

How do you make a 'Killing On Wall Street"?

Is it some deep, dark mysterious secret that only the gnomes deep in the bowels of Broad Street know about?

Are these people schooled by Magic Elves?

How, exactly, do you do that?

You have no clue, do you?

About much of anything.

A couple pages ago, someone was complaining that there was no way he (or she) could ever get rich because he had no money to invest.

Money isn't that tough to get a hold of.

What's tough to get hold of is ideas.

If you have an idea, and you put it on paper, you take the idea to a Venture Capital Firm. Like Romney's old Firm, Bain.

If they like it, they'll front you the money. They'll help you find engineers, marketing, manufacturing and distribution.

A lot of times, in China.

I'll tell you how that works in China some time soon.

The problem is, something like 75% of all Venture Capital start-ups fail, so the people lending the money take a big bite.

Still, it's better than nothing.

You people on the left? You don't get it.

Because you don't WANT to get it.

Because, frankly, you're stupid.

Don't take that personal-like.

You just are.

It's your choice. You don't have to be. You CHOOSE to be

If you can bag the patronizing and the unfounded screeds about stupidity (something you are no doubt highly familiar with) perhaps you can consider this:

You enter the commodities market with the notion to buy crude oil. Your trading and speculating makes the price of oil rise. You have no facilities to store the oil you bought. In fact you never intended to take delivery. All you wanted was to use the market as one might use a casino. Your actions effect millions who now see rising gasoline prices. Your actions produced NOTHING but profit for yourself while those in your wake are made to suffer. `

And that's greed. That's marketplace exploitation. And that's something some ill-begotten Conservatives think is just great for the economy! I wonder why that is?

Then do it yourself.

Become a Day-Trader.

Short some stocks.

You can short Oil, too. But that ones a little tougher. More than a little tougher, but it can be done.

Oil Futures trading is almost always buying 'long'. That kind of speculation is different and is probably a little rich for your blood, but you can still do it if you're willing to risk everything you own, everything your parents own, everything your wife owns and everything her parents and everything you will ever own.

Go for it.

Oil Futures guarantee a price to the end user who has to figure out the cost of production -- Now, for use down the road. Oil Futures are sold as much as twelve years into the future.

If it's so easy... Do it yourself.

You're so fucking smart, do it.

Let me know how you make out. Don't call collect.

And if you think it's all just about 'gambling' odds are you'll not only end up broke but in Prison as well.

I've been piggybacking on high frequency traders and speculators for years, and have made handsome bank from it.

It does take nerves of steel. Not for the weak of heart.

However, there is certainly a great deal of criminal activity now taking place in the commodities markets. Wide open, broad daylight robbery. And the regulators have had their hands held and led straight to the crimes, and they do NOTHING about it. It is gotten beyond outrageous. These criminals are destroying the DNA of our capitalist system. Every right thinking capitalist should be pounding down the doors of the regulators and Congress to stop these assholes.

Unfortunately, regulatory capture occurred long ago. Congress is owned. The SEC is captured. The OCC is captured, and Dodd-Frank was throttled in the cradle.

 

[Edgetho]

Wealthy Libs who advocate for Sharing The Wealth should donate their own money to whatever causes they support. If they advocate for increased taxes, they should pay more than they legally owe.

I'm not a Shrink, but I think most of them are suffering from what I call a 'Savior Complex'.

They're so out of touch with reality, they're so patronizing, so .... I can't think of the word right now... Like when a King looks down on his subjects with kindness and a little pity because.... They're just so common.

I'll think of the word. But libtards are sick. Or insane. Sometimes both.

libtardism is a mental disorder.

 

[Edgetho]

If you can bag the patronizing and the unfounded screeds about stupidity (something you are no doubt highly familiar with) perhaps you can consider this:

You enter the commodities market with the notion to buy crude oil. Your trading and speculating makes the price of oil rise. You have no facilities to store the oil you bought. In fact you never intended to take delivery. All you wanted was to use the market as one might use a casino. Your actions effect millions who now see rising gasoline prices. Your actions produced NOTHING but profit for yourself while those in your wake are made to suffer. `

And that's greed. That's marketplace exploitation. And that's something some ill-begotten Conservatives think is just great for the economy! I wonder why that is?

Then do it yourself.

Become a Day-Trader.

Short some stocks.

You can short Oil, too. But that ones a little tougher. More than a little tougher, but it can be done.

Oil Futures trading is almost always buying 'long'. That kind of speculation is different and is probably a little rich for your blood, but you can still do it if you're willing to risk everything you own, everything your parents own, everything your wife owns and everything her parents and everything you will ever own.

Go for it.

Oil Futures guarantee a price to the end user who has to figure out the cost of production -- Now, for use down the road. Oil Futures are sold as much as twelve years into the future.

If it's so easy... Do it yourself.

You're so fucking smart, do it.

Let me know how you make out. Don't call collect.

And if you think it's all just about 'gambling' odds are you'll not only end up broke but in Prison as well.

I've been piggybacking on high frequency traders and speculators for years, and have made handsome bank from it.

It does take nerves of steel. Not for the weak of heart.

However, there is certainly a great deal of criminal activity now taking place in the commodities markets. Wide open, broad daylight robbery. And the regulators have had their hands held and led straight to the crimes, and they do NOTHING about it. It is gotten beyond outrageous. These criminals are destroying the DNA of our capitalist system. Every right thinking capitalist should be pounding down the doors of the regulators and Congress to stop these assholes.

Unfortunately, regulatory capture occurred long ago. Congress is owned. The SEC is captured. The OCC is captured, and Dodd-Frank was throttled in the cradle.

The SEC was warned about Madoff how many times?

Franklin Raines (dimocrap) made MILLIONS off of running Fannie Mae into the ground.

Jamie Gore-Lick (What the FUCK was a FUCKING lawyer doing on the Board of FNMA??) who should be shot on general principles alone for the 9/11 'Wall' debacle, also got stinking rich off of Fannie and is also a dimocrap scumbag, douche-nozzle criminal.

Yeah, I agree that much of the financial market is crooked as can be, but that's only because gubmint allows it to be.

And it should not be cause for condemning an entire system

 

[noose4]

I read a joke where the Koch brothers have 12 cookies
take 11
give 1/2 of one to a Conservative
and then tell the same "look at that person on wellfare, he is trying to take half of your cookie"

What would you have them do?
Do you understand why I cannot ever become "rich"

Pay a tax rate at least as high as a plumbers tax rate.

 

[DiamondDave]

I read a joke where the Koch brothers have 12 cookies
take 11
give 1/2 of one to a Conservative
and then tell the same "look at that person on wellfare, he is trying to take half of your cookie"

What would you have them do?
Do you understand why I cannot ever become "rich"

Pay a tax rate at least as high as a plumbers tax rate.

Tax rates are not levied by profession.. thank God.. or we would have the libs screaming to raise taxes on executives, lobbyists, preachers, etc

How about this... all pay the same rate on every dollar earned?? Or does making everyone have a stake in the game (like sales tax) not suit a redistribution and 'you pay for my services' agenda??

 

[ShaklesOfBigGov]

Wealthy Libs who advocate for Sharing The Wealth should donate their own money to whatever causes they support. If they advocate for increased taxes, they should pay more than they legally owe.

Never ask a liberal to follow after their own ideological prescription. Rather it's all about controlling the success of others, over what they themselves are not willing to do on their own to obtain. As opposed to seeking to "learn" from the accomplishments of those who benefit from achieving a better lifestyle, they make excuses for their own intellectual laziness and lack of acquiring any personal initiative. The risk may be too great for them to utilize their own financial resources, so they seek to take from those who have put forth the personal sacrifices and knowledge to create wealth.