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Zone1 What to Do with Gaza?

Jordan ceded the West Bank to Israel in 1994.
Israel cannot "occupy", illegally or otherwise, territory within its borders.
The opinion of the UN to the contrary does not matter; Israel can no more "occupy" the West Bank than the US can "occupy" Puerto Rico.
The West Bank, East Jerusalem, and Gaza belong to the Palestinians, according to the UN and most of the world. The two-state solution, might have worked, but you destroyed your opportunity to apply it, hence now you're left with nothing. Palestine will be freed soon, watch and see.
 
The Oslo Accords ...
... do not change the fact Jordan ceded the West Bank to Israel in 1994.
The UN's resolutions do matter...
The opinion of the UN with regard to Treaty Law - voluntary agreements between two or more states- does not matter any more than yours.
The UN has no power to invalidate such agreements.
 
The incoherence of the post I responded to proves my claim.
The Palestinians, who are the indigenous people of Palestine, are going to take back their land and kick you xenophobic, ZioNazis out. Your genocidal bombing campaign in Gaza is essentially the nail in the nationhood coffin for the Jewish Ethno-State. Your asses are toast.
 
... do not change the fact Jordan ceded the West Bank to Israel in 1994.

The opinion of the UN with regard to Treaty Law - voluntary agreements between two or more states- does not matter any more than yours.
The UN has no power to invalidate such agreements.

Jordan doesn't determine whether the Palestinians get back their homes and lands. You're quite delusional.
 
Jordan doesn't determine...
Jordan, does, however through treaty and international law, get to determine its borders.

In 1967, the West Bank was part of Jordan.
In the 6-day war, Israel invaded the West Bank, part of Jordan..
Thus began the "illegal" occupation Jordanian territory, and the controversy under international law.
In 1994, in ts peace treaty with Israel, Jordan ceded the West Bank to Israel.
This ended the controversy under international law, and the "illegal" occupation of the West Bank.

Your opinion doesn't matter.
 
Jordan, does, however through treaty and international law, get to determine its borders.

In 1967, the West Bank was part of Jordan.
In the 6-day war, Israel invaded the West Bank, part of Jordan..
Thus began the "illegal" occupation Jordanian territory, and the controversy under international law.
In 1994, in ts peace treaty with Israel, Jordan ceded the West Bank to Israel.
This ended the controversy under international law, and the "illegal" occupation of the West Bank.

Your opinion doesn't matter.
The indigenous Palestinian population was once willing to accept only 20% of the land in a two-state solution, but you destroyed that by expanding settlements in the West Bank and now with your latest genocidal bombing campaign and siege of Gaza. Israhell is now, before the whole world, committing suicide. You ZioNazis are your own worst enemy.
 
How about looking at both sides of this?

How Benjamin Netanyahu empowered Hamas ... and broke Israel
Polling shows majority blame the PM not just for military failures but for ‘propping up’ the terrorist group in the first place


There is a reasonable chance Benjamin Netanyahu will be remembered as both Hamas’s nemesis and its enabler.

Today, and for however long it takes the Israel Defense Force (IDF) to neuter the military wing of the Islamist group in Gaza, the great bulk of the country’s body politic will stand behind its leader. In Gaza at least, Hamas’s capacity to wage jihad will be crushed, together with much of the political and paramilitary infrastructure through which it governs, analysts expect. Although sharply cognisant of the attendant risks, few in the Israeli mainstream believe they have much choice given the terrible events of Oct 7.

Yet national unity is being delivered through gritted teeth. Recent polling shows a significant majority of Israelis blame Mr Netanyahu not just for the military and intelligence failures that allowed the attack but for “propping up” the terrorist group in the first place.

“For years, the various governments led by Benjamin Netanyahu took an approach that divided power between the Gaza Strip and the West Bank – bringing Palestinian Authority president Mahmoud Abbas to his knees while making moves that propped up the Hamas terror group”, wrote political correspondent Tal Schneider in the Times of Israel last week. “The idea was to prevent Abbas – or anyone else in the Palestinian Authority’s West Bank government – from advancing toward the establishment of a Palestinian state”.

Dmitry Shumsky, a columnist for Haaretz, took a similar line, arguing that Mr Netanyahu had pursued a policy of “diplomatic paralysis” in order to avoid negotiations with the Palestinians over a two-state solution – a solution despised by the country’s extreme Right.
This flawed strategy turned Hamas from “a minor terrorist group into an efficient, lethal army with bloodthirsty killers who mercilessly slaughtered innocent Israeli civilians”, said Mr Shumsky.



Hamas is Muslim Brotherhood and MB is considered a terrorist group by the Arabs.

 

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Our case is quite simple: For nearly 2,000 years Palestine has been almost 100 per cent Arab. It is still preponderantly Arab today, in spite of enormous Jewish immigration. But if this immigration continues we shall soon be outnumbered—a minority in our home.

Palestine is a small and very poor country, about the size of your state of Vermont. Its Arab population is only about 1,200,000. Already we have had forced on us, against our will, some 600,000 Zionist Jews. We are threatened with many hundreds of thousands more.

Our position is so simple and natural that we are amazed it should even be questioned. It is exactly the same position you in America take in regard to the unhappy European Jews. You are sorry for them, but you do not want them in your country.

We do not want them in ours, either. Not because they are Jews, but because they are foreigners. We would not want hundreds of thousands of foreigners in our country, be they Englishmen or Norwegians or Brazilians or whatever.

Think for a moment: In the last 25 years we have had one third of our entire population forced upon us. In America that would be the equivalent of 45,000,000 complete strangers admitted to your country, over your violent protest, since 1921. How would you have reacted to that?

Because of our perfectly natural dislike of being overwhelmed in our own homeland, we are called blind nationalists and heartless anti-Semites. This charge would be ludicrous were it not so dangerous.

No people on earth have been less “anti-Semitic” than the Arabs. The persecution of the Jews has been confined almost entirely to the Christian nations of the West. Jews, themselves, will admit that never since the Great Dispersion did Jews develop so freely and reach such importance as in Spain when it was an Arab possession. With very minor exceptions, Jews have lived for many centuries in the Middle East, in complete peace and friendliness with their Arab neighbours.

Damascus, Baghdad, Beirut and other Arab centres have always contained large and prosperous Jewish colonies. Until the Zionist invasion of Palestine began, these Jews received the most generous treatment—far, far better than in Christian Europe. Now, unhappily, for the first time in history, these Jews are beginning to feel the effects of Arab resistance to the Zionist assault. Most of them are as anxious as Arabs to stop it. Most of these Jews who have found happy homes among us resent, as we do, the coming of these strangers.
Who Is Behind This Contempt for Productivity and Progress?

All that can be said about the American Indigians. Should we give America back to those backward savages? The iron law of evolution is "Use It or Lose It."

Progress is not from being in the right place at the right time; it's from the right people being in the right place, which had been wasted previously on the wrong people.
 
Source - for your ridiculous and unsubstantiated statement?
Article 3, re: Annex IA:

1. It is agreed that, in accordance with Article 3 of the Treaty, the international bound-
ary between the two states
consists of the following sectors:
A. The Jordan and Yarmouk Rivers.
B. The Dead Sea.
C. The Emek Ha'arava/Wadi Araba.
D. The Gulf of Aqaba.
2. The boundary is delimited as follows:

Per the treaty
Jordan/Israel border 1950-1994

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Jordan/Israel border 1994-present

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If some foreign immigrants walk into your country - then presenting 40% of the total population (before less than 10%) and forwarding a two- state solution via claiming 60% of your territory - would you be willing to sign or walk away?
Comparing Apples to Orangutans

Think back to what degenerate feralphiles, a poison within the Western World, could have said to Columbus, the Pilgrim Fathers, and Daniel Boone. Besides, it's suicidal for the Israelis to allow any hostile state on their borders, and any hostile residents within Israel itself.
 
I am stumped by what to do with the two million Palestinians living in Gaza. A simple idea is to leave them alone, but this has resulted in endless war with Israel. On the other hand, no other country appears willing to assume responsibility for this area. A third possibility would to resettle these people elsewhere, but who would want to accept them? My biggest fear is that the US might try to do this.

Any thoughts/solutions?
What should happen is that the free world should tell them in no uncertain terms that Israel has every right to exist and they are not to interfere with Israel or threaten them or harm them in any way. That Israel has every right to protect and defend itself and if they fire rockets into Israel or send terrorist bombers/saboteurs into Israel, Israel has every right to retaliate as it needs to eliminate the danger, threat, or aggression.

And the free world will give Israel whatever it needs to protect and defend itself.

If they don't want to live under those conditions, move. Otherwise if they continue to make war on Israel nobody will feel sorry for them when Israel reacts.

The Palestinian leadership must understand that it is their responsibility and not Israel's to provide for the Palestinians or make possible for them to produce what they need for quality of life.

Israel has never been the aggressor, but it will understand that while it has no responsibility to the Palestinian citizens in any regard, it should not deliberately provoke hostile actions from the Palestinians or their government.
 
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