Zone1 What to Do with Gaza?

[The Sage of Main Street]

I was always a two state solution Man, however from what we are looking at from the Rabid far right Zionist state unless there is a moderate Regime in Israel i think Israel has to go, because it's a fascist jewish supremacist Regime engaged in Genocide, period.

How Indiana Got Its Name

Few Americans are taught about the English King's two-state solution for his American colonies in 1763, which must have been the real cause of our War for Independence. The King wanted to give all the land west of the coastal states, from the Great Lakes to the Gulf of Mexico, to the unproductive savages. Whites were forbidden to go there.

If the truth could be told instead of sold, this is another example of how the history of Israel is exactly like the real history of the United States, including the fact that, for almost 100 years, Israel has been the training ground for Islam's desire for world domination.

 

[The Sage of Main Street]

Your hatred of Jews clearly renders you incapable of coherent thought.

Zionism Is Like the Coming Reversal of White Replacement

To be consistent, anyone who hates Israelis has to hate the American pioneers, who were our real Founding Fathers. Any Jew who wants to move to Israel is the same type as the Europeans who moved to America.

 

[Kruska]

https://peacemaker.un.org/sites/peacemaker.un.org/files/IL%20JO_941026_PeaceTreatyIsraelJordan.pdf

Article 3, re: Annex IA:

Maybe you should first read up upon your cited/posted articles - sources
You are citing the Border agreement between Jordan and Israel of 1994 - nothing else.

That agreement confirms that the border will return to the status of before 1967 - since the West-Bank had been occupied by Jordan since 1948/9 and Israel had occupied it in 1967. Therefore both Israel and Jordan acknowledging the original border that had already been subject to the UN partitioning plan of 1947. Since Jordan had received it's independence and it's border in 1946 from Britain. And the West-Bank therefore being shown as Palestinian territory in the remaining British Mandate of Palestine.

The boundary, as set out in Annex I (a), is the permanent, secure and recognized international boundary between Israel and Jordan, without prejudice to the status of any territories that came under Israeli military government control in 1967.
This Treaty does not affect and shall not be interpreted as affecting, in any way, the rights and obligations of the Parties under the Charter of the United Nations.
As for the West-Bank see below as to what had happened already 6 years prior in 1988.

An emergency meeting of the Arab League in June 1988 gave the PLO financial control of support for the Palestinians, thereby virtually acknowledging Arafat as their spokesman. In response, Hussein renounced all Jordanian claims to the West Bank, allowing the PLO to assume full responsibility there.

As such - Israel and Jordan had agreed in 1994 to reset and acknowledge their borders to the 1948 status. The West-Bank had already received an independent status by Jordan in 1988.

Israel is the one, who does not acknowledge the 1988 renunciation by Jordan - but continued sending illegal settlers into the West-Bank, which they had occupied since 1967.

 

[Kruska]

Zionism Is Like the Coming Reversal of White Replacement

To be consistent, anyone who hates Israelis has to hate the American pioneers, who were our real Founding Fathers. Any Jew who wants to move to Israel is the same type as the Europeans who moved to America.

Silly statement and irrational example

There was no UN or international law when the Europeans settled the Americas.

This is also (at least on my part) not about hate - but the fact that Israel has defied the UN and international law since 1948. Only being able to do so, due to US support. The previous and present establishment of Jewish settlements in Gaza, Golan-Heights and the West-Bank is in defiance of international law.

The present "retribution" against Hamas in Gaza by the IDF beholds war-crimes - just as the Hamas attack constitutes a war-crime - since Gaza is not a sovereign country - the crimes of Hamas do not constitute a war-crime but a crime towards humanity. (basically the same - only politically different terms).

 

[surada]

Your hatred of Jews clearly renders you incapable of coherent thought.

Along the Syria border there were no farms and no refugee camps -- there was only the Syrian army... the kibbutzim saw the good agricultural land... and they dreamed about it... They didn't even try to hide their greed for the land... We would send a tractor to plow some area where it wasn't possible to do anything, in the demilitarized area, and knew in advance that the Syrians would start to shoot. If they didn't shoot, we would tell the tractor to advance further, until in the end the Syrians would get annoyed and shoot. And then we would use artillery and later the air force also, and that's how it was." 1976

Already a battle hardened by the end of his teens, Moshe Dayan gained his trademark eyepatch while fighting the Vichy French in Syria during WWII after a bullet struck his binoculars. Dayan's activities in the 1948 War of Independence began when he commanded the defense of Jewish settlements in the Jordan Valley. He later commanded the battalion that attacked the city of Lydda and helped halt Egyptian forces on the southern front. In August 1948, he was appointed commander on the Jerusalem front. In 1949, he participated in armistice talks with Jordanian officials at Rhodes. Dayan's military prowess allowed him to rise to the rank of chief of operations at General Headquarters in 1952, and, in 1953, he was elected Chief of Staff of the armed forces3.

Dayan became Chief of Staff during a time of severe Arab belligerence. Despite the military armistice of 1949, the surrounding Arab nations remained hostile, using maritime blockades, reinforcing an economic boycott, promoting political and propaganda warfare and supporting terrorism in Israel. Dayan insisted on strong retaliation operations. His view was that the Arabs saw terrorism as a stage of war, and the longer the terrorist attacks continued, the longer the Arabs had to build up their military strength. He wanted to force the Arabs into open battle before they gained full military power3. In 1957, Dayan led the Israeli Defense Forces in the Suez Canal incident.

Moshe Dayan

 

[surada]

Zionism Is Like the Coming Reversal of White Replacement

To be consistent, anyone who hates Israelis has to hate the American pioneers, who were our real Founding Fathers. Any Jew who wants to move to Israel is the same type as the Europeans who moved to America.

It's illegal now to colonize occupied territory. Everyone knows that.

Our treatment of the native Americans is a dark blot on our history. Not something to be proud of.

 

[expat500]

Along the Syria border there were no farms and no refugee camps -- there was only the Syrian army... the kibbutzim saw the good agricultural land... and they dreamed about it... They didn't even try to hide their greed for the land... We would send a tractor to plow some area where it wasn't possible to do anything, in the demilitarized area, and knew in advance that the Syrians would start to shoot. If they didn't shoot, we would tell the tractor to advance further, until in the end the Syrians would get annoyed and shoot. And then we would use artillery and later the air force also, and that's how it was." 1976

Already a battle hardened by the end of his teens, Moshe Dayan gained his trademark eyepatch while fighting the Vichy French in Syria during WWII after a bullet struck his binoculars. Dayan's activities in the 1948 War of Independence began when he commanded the defense of Jewish settlements in the Jordan Valley. He later commanded the battalion that attacked the city of Lydda and helped halt Egyptian forces on the southern front. In August 1948, he was appointed commander on the Jerusalem front. In 1949, he participated in armistice talks with Jordanian officials at Rhodes. Dayan's military prowess allowed him to rise to the rank of chief of operations at General Headquarters in 1952, and, in 1953, he was elected Chief of Staff of the armed forces3.

Dayan became Chief of Staff during a time of severe Arab belligerence. Despite the military armistice of 1949, the surrounding Arab nations remained hostile, using maritime blockades, reinforcing an economic boycott, promoting political and propaganda warfare and supporting terrorism in Israel. Dayan insisted on strong retaliation operations. His view was that the Arabs saw terrorism as a stage of war, and the longer the terrorist attacks continued, the longer the Arabs had to build up their military strength. He wanted to force the Arabs into open battle before they gained full military power3. In 1957, Dayan led the Israeli Defense Forces in the Suez Canal incident.

Moshe Dayan

Your daily tutorial?

Yes......and?

 

[DudleySmith]

Our treatment of the native Americans is a dark blot on our history. Not something to be proud of.

lol rubbish. They got treated very well by historical standards anywhere else on Planet Earth, far better than they deserved in fact. Your Islamists certainly have no moral high ground to stand on and wag fingers at anybody. You're still in the slave trading business, after all.

 

[surada]

Your daily tutorial?

Yes......and?

The Zionists were always about more land.

Netanyahu: Money to Hamas part of strategy to keep Palestinians divided

“Now that we are supervising, we know it’s going to humanitarian causes,” the source said, paraphrasing Netanyahu.

m.jpost.com

 

[expat500]

The Zionists were always about more land.

Netanyahu: Money to Hamas part of strategy to keep Palestinians divided

“Now that we are supervising, we know it’s going to humanitarian causes,” the source said, paraphrasing Netanyahu.

m.jpost.com

They didn’t end up with much, did they?

After what had been promised.

 

[surada]

They didn’t end up with much, did they?

After what had been promised.

The Brits also made promises to the Arabs.

The difference is that Arab Christians and Muslims were the majority in the for 2000 years.

Why would European Jews force themselves into that situation?

 

[expat500]

The Brits also made promises to the Arabs.

The difference is that Arab Christians and Muslims were the majority in the for 2000 years.

Why would European Jews force themselves into that situation?

I don’t know what you are talking about.

 

[surada]

They didn’t end up with much, did they?

After what had been promised.

Greed is never a good thing. It's better in the long run to do the right thing. You can't expect people to welcome the theft of their ancestral home.

 

[expat500]

Greed is never a good thing. It's better in the long run to do the right thing. You can't expect people to welcome the theft of their ancestral home.

The Ottomans you mean?

 

[surada]

I don’t know what you are talking about.

Have you never heard of the Sykes Picot agreement?

 

[expat500]

Have you never heard of the Sykes Picot agreement?

Another tutorial coming up?

 

[surada]

The Ottomans you mean?

The Ottomans left the three groups to govern themselves. They didn't interfere. Palestine was a sleepy, apolitical backwater. ..and it was peaceful.. until Jewish Nationalism arrived from Europe. Theodore Hertzl was a secular Jew. They began abusing the Palestinians by 1920 and formed the Jewish terror gangs in 1920-22. It's nothing to be proud of. They killed over 600 British peacekeepers including Count Folke Bernadotte.

 

[surada]

Your daily tutorial?

Yes......and?

I'm really surprised that you're so ignorant of your history.

Sykes–Picot Agreement - Wikipedia

en.m.wikipedia.org

 

[surada]

I am stumped by what to do with the two million Palestinians living in Gaza. A simple idea is to leave them alone, but this has resulted in endless war with Israel. On the other hand, no other country appears willing to assume responsibility for this area. A third possibility would to resettle these people elsewhere, but who would want to accept them? My biggest fear is that the US might try to do this.

Any thoughts/solutions?

Like they settled European Jews in Arab Palestine?

 

[M14 Shooter]

Along the Syria border there were no farms and no refugee camps...

Having nothing at all to do with my post...