What To Do With the Jewish People?

[USAF 2023]

This isn't about Jews, you moron. The problem is the Israeli government.

YAWN… Could have had their State in 2008 SPECIFICALLY, please tell us what was wrong with Olmert’s proposal

 

[USAF 2023]

Israel attacked Egypt in 1967. Nasser had called for a summit to discuss the straits of Tiran issue. Israel wanted more land. Read Moishe Dayan.

Are you an American? Do you care what they did to the USS Liberty?

Why do you always deflect? Nasser closed the Straits because of the USiS Liberty ( Being Sarcastic). The UN tried intervene with no resolution Why call for a “ summit?” In the meantime, Israel couldn’t import or export goods Egypt blocked Israel’s right to INTERNATIONAL WATERS; looking for a fight and they got it
Stupid analogy; If your neighbors hated you and your family; not letting you out or anything in, and the police actually LEFT the area what would you do?
It was before my time, but wasn’t the incident with the USS Liberty AFTER Egypt closed Israel’s right to International Waters?
Stop deflecting

 

[Richard-H]

Israel is colonizing occupied territory which is illegal under under international law.

The U.N. recognized Israel long ago, so your assertion that Israel is illegal under international law is just plain wrong.

The only exception is the Jewish settlements in the West Bank.

But the current war is not about the West Bank.

 

[Richard-H]

In any argument – say, for an example, an argument between children – you want to hear from both sides what’s the root cause of the problem and offer a solution.

Some people say what do we do with the Palestinian people? Well, why not turn that question around and see from their side as if it were possible what to do with the other people, you know, the Jewish people. Since the whole world is presently siding with the Palestinians and going against Israel, I thought, let’s just do what the whole world is doing, ignore Israel's concerns, and adhere only to the Palestinian side, which of course is not an actual side since for a while now there’s been no real Palestinian authority as they’ve been hijacked by terrorists (but let’s not get into that here).

Rather, let’s just ask what Palestinians want from Israel and then, more interestingly, go from there. Obviously, you would suppose, Palestinians want to live in peace just like anybody normally would. But with Israel as their neighbor? Is this what they want?

Maybe, and if that’s the case then you don’t really have a problem, but if they don’t want to live in that area with Israel as their neighbor now you have a problem because Israel is not going to leave.

Now, according to the Washington Institute for Near East Policy, Palestinians “who support permanent peace with Israel are in the minority.” Also, a recent Gallup poll found that only 24% of Palestinians want a two-state solution. There are more polls and much more responses from Palestinians who claim they do not want a two-state solution, but I'm not going to cite them all here. In fact, you need only watch the worldwide massive protests in support of Palestinians and against Israel and hear “from the river to the sea, Palestine will be free!”

That slogan dates back to 1948, but was echoed again in 2012 by a Palestinian terrorist leader who called for resistance, NOT negotiation.

Well, it seems that most Palestinians do not want to live beside Israel and as the sentiment behind that slogan insinuates, prefer that Israel just not exist there at all, because presently from the river to the sea there is a nation there called Israel.

Don't overreact. Remember, we are siding with the Palestinians and imagining that we can give them what they want, which as we’ve seen is all of Palestine and no Israel in their vicinity.

So, now if this were possible, it brings up an interesting question: WHAT TO DO WITH THE JEWISH PEOPLE?

Why does this question sound so familiar?

There are approximately six million Jews in Israel. Shall we move them all to England, to France…to Germany?

Yup, been there, done that. Didn’t turn out so well, at least not for the Jews. But do not be mistaken, just as the holocaust did not happen in a vacuum but within a world war, the new holocaust that people all around the world are salivating for will only happen in the context of World War III. That means the world doesn’t get to nearly exterminate the Jews again without bringing upon itself its own destruction. For some reason, that’s just the way it works. Perhaps it’s divine.

…which means, Israel doesn’t have to use all those nuclear weapons it has (enough to obliterate the entire Middle East, if it were as evil as Iran) because when America is gone Israel will still be around and still be protected.

And by the way, if you say protesting Israel and supporting Palestine does not lead to exterminating Jews and WWIII, well, I didn’t even have to say it because it was already being said after October 7 when talk of WWIII echoed here and there and 1400 exterminated Jews splattered throughout the media all in that brief moment when the world felt a smattering of sympathy for Israel’s plight and some people even worried about what more could happen to the Jews if terrorists continued attacking them and other nations got involved. Not so much sympathy anymore. That's the first step.

And this is just the beginning.

It may be a few months, a year, 10 years, but not much longer than that and you will see where this is all leading to.

Don't mean to sound flippant about future horrifying events. As an observer of history, just speaking truth about historical trends and the logical outcome of where we're at.

The strange thing is that Pro-Palestinian people are threatening Jews all over the world.

If Pro-Palestinians want Jews out of Israel, why are they threatening Jews who are outside of Israel?

They should be writing these Jews notes that say: "Thank You for Not Living in Israel!"

It just seems to be a mindless antisemitic frenzy.

 

[Richard-H]

This isn't about Jews, you moron. The problem is the Israeli government.

Wrong again! Starting with the 1948 war, the Arab League, and all subsequent Pro-Palestinian militant groups have made it clear that their intentions were to kill ALL Jews in Israel. That extended to Jews outside of Israel as well.

The concept of making war against a government, but not a people, is a very Western concept. It is completely alien to other cultures. They are primitives who believe war mean the extermination or enslavement of their enemies.

The Oct. 7 Hamas attack absolutely proved it. 1400 unarmed civilians were murdered.

Civilized nations do not even allow killing unarmed enemy soldiers.

 

[Richard-H]

The only Arabs who have constantly had problems with the Israelis are their immediate neighbors Syria and Lebanon because of the ongoing land theft.

They aren't otherwise important.

Boundary Stones and Unfair Competition in Jewish Law - NJOP

In parshat Shoftim in the book of Deuteronomy, the Torah teaches that, “You shall not move your fellow’s landmarks, set up by previous generations, in the property that will be allotted to you in the land that the Lord your God is giving you to possess” (Deuteronomy 19:14). The initial…

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The initial prohibition here is against moving the boundaries of your and your neighbor’s property, in order to expand your property at your neighbor’s expense. Rashi asks what new form of theft is introduced with this verse, since the Torah has already prohibited stealing (Leviticus 19:13).

He answered that moving a boundary stone causes one to violate two Biblical prohibitions, not just stealing. In fact, shifting a boundary is such a serious form of embezzlement that it warranted a separate Biblical prohibition. Rashi also notes that since the verse references “dwelling in the Land of Israel,” moving a boundary stone outside of the Land of Israel would only be a single prohibition, that of stealing.

Nobody could give a shit about Leviticus.

 

[Richard-H]

You mean continued Israeli expansion?

This war isn't about Israeli expansion, it's about the unprovoked murder of 1400 unarmed people.

 

[Richard-H]

Israel attacked Egypt in 1967. Nasser had called for a summit to discuss the straits of Tiran issue. Israel wanted more land. Read Moishe Dayan.

Are you an American? Do you care what they did to the USS Liberty?

Who cares what happened 50 years ago. I knew one of the crewmen killed on the USS Liberty. President Johnson should have taken some action against Israel at that time. He did not.

What matters is that Israel was not only behaving peacefully towards the Gaza Palestinians, but supplying them with water and electricity - and giving the billions of $$$ every year to help improve their economy.

The Gaza Palestinians responded by murdering 1400 people in Israel. It was absolutely barbaric.

If we are to still remember the USS Liberty, should we also remember the British attack on Washington in 1814?

 

[USAF 2023]

Who cares what happened 50 years ago. I knew one of the crewmen killed on the USS Liberty. President Johnson should have taken some action against Israel at that time. He did not.

What matters is that Israel was not only behaving peacefully towards the Gaza Palestinians, but supplying them with water and electricity - and giving the billions of $$$ every year to help improve their economy.

The Gaza Palestinians responded by murdering 1400 people in Israel. It was absolutely barbaric.

If we are to still remember the USS Liberty, should we also remember the British attack on Washington in 1814?

Have you noticed STILL no response RE; Nasser’s closing the Straits to Israel and sending the UN “ PEACEKEEPERS “ away ?

 

[expat500]

This isn't about Jews, you moron. The problem is the Israeli government.

 

[fncceo]

The idea for Israel was to make a national Jewish state, in my opinion very outdated

For many centuries, the majority of the world's Jewish population lived as guests in a host state. This is fine with the state is benevolent or at least well-disposed to The Jews.

But, that benevolence is never permanent and when times are hard or a government needs a scapegoat, they will turn on The Jews. This has been aptly demonstrated in several hundreds of examples.

Only an autonomous Jewish State can guarantee that Jews don't get thrown into boxcars again.

 

[xyz]

Only an autonomous Jewish State can guarantee that Jews don't get thrown into boxcars again.

You may be right in a way. I could even see something like this popping up even in the US, "the Jews will not replace us" chants, for example.

And the idea that they would move somewhere else, like the Jewish Autonomous Region in Russia (near China), or something like Alaska or Patagonia would simply be an insult.

I just think the way it was done, in particular the hardline approach, has had the opposite effect and sown more hate. Now if Rabin was still alive, it would be different.

I don't think Jews should leave Israel. I just think there can be a better way.

 

[fncceo]

And the idea that they would move somewhere else, like the Jewish Autonomous Region in Russia (near China), or something like Alaska or Patagonia would simply be an insult.

The world has forever been telling Jews where they could and could not live.

The world has lost that right. Where the Jews are now is where the Jews will stay.

 

[Kondor3]

Israel is colonizing occupied territory which is illegal under under international law.

Vae victus.

 

[USAF 2023]

The world says, "we don't like what Israel is doing" and your response is that the world hates Jews.

There's no end to the carnage and Israel is still on the dole.

WATCH: Hamas Vows to Repeat October 7 Attack Until Israel’s Annihilation | United with Israel

Hamas makes it clear why Israel needs to wipe the terror organization off of the earth.

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Thanks again for showing your bias and stupidity. It has nothing to do with the " carnage " and what Israel is doing. They made it extremely plain they don't believe Israel has the right to exist EVEN IF they gave in to every single demand

 

[expat500]

The world has forever been telling Jews where they could and could not live.

They still think they can tell them what to do. As though they have the divine right.

Look at this site for instance.

 

[expat500]

The world says, "we don't like what Israel is doing" and your response is that the world hates Jews.

There's no end to the carnage and Israel is still on the dole.

Who do you think you are?

 

[surada]

The U.N. recognized Israel long ago, so your assertion that Israel is illegal under international law is just plain wrong.

The only exception is the Jewish settlements in the West Bank.

But the current war is not about the West Bank.

Israel wasn't satisfied with the land they were given by the UN.

 

[surada]

WATCH: Hamas Vows to Repeat October 7 Attack Until Israel’s Annihilation | United with Israel

Hamas makes it clear why Israel needs to wipe the terror organization off of the earth.

unitedwithisrael.org

Thanks again for showing your bias and stupidity. It has nothing to do with the " carnage " and what Israel is doing. They made it extremely plain they don't believe Israel has the right to exist EVEN IF they gave in to every single demand

That's why Israel supports Hamas.

 

[surada]

Should have thought of that before ‘67

Israel deceived the world in 1967, and paid the price for it in 1973

Israel pretended to be the victim during the Six-Day War, and succeeded in deceiving the world. But it failed to prepare properly for the Yom Kippur War, fearing it would be blamed for starting the next war

www.haaretz.com