What would happen to the economy if minimum wages are raised?

[danielpalos]

You are simply ignorant and resort to diversion. Employment at will is a legal relationship, recognized in at-will employment States. That is why, no one takes the right seriously about economics or the law.

It depends on the price. Unemployment compensation could pay the equivalent to fourteen dollars an hour. Anyone who is unemployed and needs capital to function in our economy, could simply apply for it. The alternative would be to find a job at a minimum wage of fifteen dollars an hour. It really is that simple for socialism to bailout capitalism, like usual.

Then be honest and admit you want a guaranteed income, provided by welfare. Stop trying to call it something else.

Ok. It is providing for the general welfare; through equal protection of the law.

Completely unsustainable. It's been tried and millions died.

only in right wing fantasy. we resort to Yankee forms of ingenuity. we have the Best form of Socialism in the Entire World (and some on the left are proud of it); not Only can the rich keep their mulitmillion dollar bonuses while on means tested corporate welfare, but even the least wealthy can still have steak and lobster on their EBT cards.

That can only be done when a nation is tremendously wealthy, and the greater the degree of socialism, the greater the drain on the economy, and the less wealth a nation can generate. Socialism, as always, fails.

this is why, no one takes the right wing seriously about economics. increasing the circulation of money is what eliminating simple poverty means. only the right wing, never gets it.

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

it is violated by a lack of unemployment benefits

Which law is violated? Post the text of the law, I'll point out your error.

employment at will. EDD should have to prove for-cause employment to deny benefits.

Which law is violated? Post the text of the law, I'll point out your error.

employment at will.

That law isn't violated when workers who quit get no UE benefits.

EDD should have to prove for-cause employment to deny benefits.

Post the California law and I'll point out your error.

that is a violation of equal protection of the law; employment at the will of either party. only the right wing, never gets it.

that is a violation of equal protection of the law;

Post the California law and I'll point out your error.

employment at will is the law. the only error is your ignorance of the law.

Ca Labor Code 2922 is declared the law in California regarding employment relationships. EDD has to prove for-Cause employment to deny benefits.

employment at will is the law.

And the employment at will law doesn't cover unemployment benefits.
So your silly claim is wrong.

EDD has to prove for-Cause employment

Ohhh.....you've invented a new term "For-Cause Employment".

Show me where it is defined in California law.

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

Which makes it arbitrary. We knew that.

fiat money is arbitrary; our Congress can fix the value of it by enacting a Standard. you have no valid point in our First World economy.

They can fix the value of the currency, but they cannot fix the actual costs involved in producing goods and services. Face it, socialism has been tried several times and always fails when enough people realize they don't have to be productive to get paid. Then it all collapses, every time. You can't fight human nature.

yes, they can; it is called, taxation and regulation. this is why, no one takes the right wing seriously about economics.

Socialism worked in Venezuela.....but only for people who don't need food or toilet paper.

just lousy management; socialism works fine in the US.

Lousy socialists, lousy managers. In Venezuela, in the US, everywhere.......

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

They can fix the value of the currency, but they cannot fix the actual costs involved in producing goods and services. Face it, socialism has been tried several times and always fails when enough people realize they don't have to be productive to get paid. Then it all collapses, every time. You can't fight human nature.

yes, they can; it is called, taxation and regulation. this is why, no one takes the right wing seriously about economics.

Taxation and regulation just end up killing the economy and ultimately the nation. You know this to be true, we all do. I have no idea why you continue spouting this line when we've seen untold millions of people die because their leaders are determined to force them to stay in socialist hellholes. When given a choice, people always go for freedom.

price controls. it is a power delegated to Government; why no complaints about our expensive, War on Drugs?

Nixon tried price controls. They didn't work. When price cannot adjust to meet market reality, shortages ensue. We're not talking about any war on drugs, we're talking about the horrors of socialism.

a minimum wage is a price control. so is the cost of money. socialism can be wonderful, if Only we could be moral enough for free, to achieve a Commune of Heaven on Earth. But, that takes a moral of Goodness and not a moral of Badness.

a minimum wage is a price control.

And it doesn't work.

 

[hadit]

Extraordinary circumstances, such as when the nation's entire production needs to be focused on a war, cannot really be successfully compared to what works best in peace time. You really can't argue with the track record. The US and freedom became the world's economic powerhouse. All the socialist nations fell apart or went nowhere (and killed untold millions of their own people either forcing them to stay or starving them to death). Given a choice between the misery of socialism and freedom, people risk their lives to gain freedom.

This is why no one takes the right wing seriously about economics or the law.

If we don't have a warfare-State economic paradigm, why do we have our alleged Wars on Crime, Drugs, Poverty, and Terror?

We don't have a Welfare-State, we have a Warfare-State. Yet, the right wing Only complains about social spending for the poor.

You're wandering off the reservation now, and making even less sense than before. Why is it that when I pin you down on an issue, you wander off onto another subject? Run out of platitudes and talking points?

It takes wartime tax rates to have a necessary and proper warfare-State. Only the fantastical right wing, never gets it.

So, since you advocate such high tax rates, you are advocating constant warfare to justify them?

i am advocating ending our drug war; you only talk about it.

I've not been talking about the drug war. That's something you're trying to inject into the discussion.

 

[hadit]

Then be honest and admit you want a guaranteed income, provided by welfare. Stop trying to call it something else.

Ok. It is providing for the general welfare; through equal protection of the law.

Completely unsustainable. It's been tried and millions died.

only in right wing fantasy. we resort to Yankee forms of ingenuity. we have the Best form of Socialism in the Entire World (and some on the left are proud of it); not Only can the rich keep their mulitmillion dollar bonuses while on means tested corporate welfare, but even the least wealthy can still have steak and lobster on their EBT cards.

That can only be done when a nation is tremendously wealthy, and the greater the degree of socialism, the greater the drain on the economy, and the less wealth a nation can generate. Socialism, as always, fails.

this is why, no one takes the right wing seriously about economics. increasing the circulation of money is what eliminating simple poverty means. only the right wing, never gets it.

You're just slapping a bunch of labels on ideas that have been tried and have repeatedly failed. No wonder you think no one gets it, you're spouting nonsense. In fact, a random socialist phrase generator could do as well, if not better.

 

[danielpalos]

You are simply ignorant and resort to diversion. Employment at will is a legal relationship, recognized in at-will employment States. That is why, no one takes the right seriously about economics or the law.

It depends on the price. Unemployment compensation could pay the equivalent to fourteen dollars an hour. Anyone who is unemployed and needs capital to function in our economy, could simply apply for it. The alternative would be to find a job at a minimum wage of fifteen dollars an hour. It really is that simple for socialism to bailout capitalism, like usual.

Then be honest and admit you want a guaranteed income, provided by welfare. Stop trying to call it something else.

Ok. It is providing for the general welfare; through equal protection of the law.

Completely unsustainable. It's been tried and millions died.

only in right wing fantasy. we resort to Yankee forms of ingenuity. we have the Best form of Socialism in the Entire World (and some on the left are proud of it); not Only can the rich keep their mulitmillion dollar bonuses while on means tested corporate welfare, but even the least wealthy can still have steak and lobster on their EBT cards.

That can only be done when a nation is tremendously wealthy, and the greater the degree of socialism, the greater the drain on the economy, and the less wealth a nation can generate. Socialism, as always, fails.

We Only have our first world economy due to Socialism, not Capitalism. 1929 proved it.

 

[danielpalos]

employment at will. EDD should have to prove for-cause employment to deny benefits.

Which law is violated? Post the text of the law, I'll point out your error.

employment at will.

That law isn't violated when workers who quit get no UE benefits.

EDD should have to prove for-cause employment to deny benefits.

Post the California law and I'll point out your error.

that is a violation of equal protection of the law; employment at the will of either party. only the right wing, never gets it.

that is a violation of equal protection of the law;

Post the California law and I'll point out your error.

employment at will is the law. the only error is your ignorance of the law.

Ca Labor Code 2922 is declared the law in California regarding employment relationships. EDD has to prove for-Cause employment to deny benefits.

employment at will is the law.

And the employment at will law doesn't cover unemployment benefits.
So your silly claim is wrong.

EDD has to prove for-Cause employment

Ohhh.....you've invented a new term "For-Cause Employment".

Show me where it is defined in California law.

dude read the law for yourself and stop appealing to ignorance.

there is a federal doctrine and State laws regarding the concept of employment at will.

 

[danielpalos]

fiat money is arbitrary; our Congress can fix the value of it by enacting a Standard. you have no valid point in our First World economy.

They can fix the value of the currency, but they cannot fix the actual costs involved in producing goods and services. Face it, socialism has been tried several times and always fails when enough people realize they don't have to be productive to get paid. Then it all collapses, every time. You can't fight human nature.

yes, they can; it is called, taxation and regulation. this is why, no one takes the right wing seriously about economics.

Socialism worked in Venezuela.....but only for people who don't need food or toilet paper.

just lousy management; socialism works fine in the US.

Lousy socialists, lousy managers. In Venezuela, in the US, everywhere.......

even Hostess had that problem.

 

[danielpalos]

yes, they can; it is called, taxation and regulation. this is why, no one takes the right wing seriously about economics.

Taxation and regulation just end up killing the economy and ultimately the nation. You know this to be true, we all do. I have no idea why you continue spouting this line when we've seen untold millions of people die because their leaders are determined to force them to stay in socialist hellholes. When given a choice, people always go for freedom.

price controls. it is a power delegated to Government; why no complaints about our expensive, War on Drugs?

Nixon tried price controls. They didn't work. When price cannot adjust to meet market reality, shortages ensue. We're not talking about any war on drugs, we're talking about the horrors of socialism.

a minimum wage is a price control. so is the cost of money. socialism can be wonderful, if Only we could be moral enough for free, to achieve a Commune of Heaven on Earth. But, that takes a moral of Goodness and not a moral of Badness.

a minimum wage is a price control.

And it doesn't work.

yes, it does; we have one of the highest standards of living in the world.

 

[danielpalos]

This is why no one takes the right wing seriously about economics or the law.

If we don't have a warfare-State economic paradigm, why do we have our alleged Wars on Crime, Drugs, Poverty, and Terror?

We don't have a Welfare-State, we have a Warfare-State. Yet, the right wing Only complains about social spending for the poor.

You're wandering off the reservation now, and making even less sense than before. Why is it that when I pin you down on an issue, you wander off onto another subject? Run out of platitudes and talking points?

It takes wartime tax rates to have a necessary and proper warfare-State. Only the fantastical right wing, never gets it.

So, since you advocate such high tax rates, you are advocating constant warfare to justify them?

i am advocating ending our drug war; you only talk about it.

I've not been talking about the drug war. That's something you're trying to inject into the discussion.

it is about lowering Taxes; only right, never gets it.

 

[danielpalos]

Ok. It is providing for the general welfare; through equal protection of the law.

Completely unsustainable. It's been tried and millions died.

only in right wing fantasy. we resort to Yankee forms of ingenuity. we have the Best form of Socialism in the Entire World (and some on the left are proud of it); not Only can the rich keep their mulitmillion dollar bonuses while on means tested corporate welfare, but even the least wealthy can still have steak and lobster on their EBT cards.

That can only be done when a nation is tremendously wealthy, and the greater the degree of socialism, the greater the drain on the economy, and the less wealth a nation can generate. Socialism, as always, fails.

this is why, no one takes the right wing seriously about economics. increasing the circulation of money is what eliminating simple poverty means. only the right wing, never gets it.

You're just slapping a bunch of labels on ideas that have been tried and have repeatedly failed. No wonder you think no one gets it, you're spouting nonsense. In fact, a random socialist phrase generator could do as well, if not better.

it is not, nonsense simply because you are ignorant of economics, and should not be taken seriously, as a result.

What problems would Persons have, if they have recourse to unemployment compensation simply for being unemployed?

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

Which law is violated? Post the text of the law, I'll point out your error.

employment at will.

That law isn't violated when workers who quit get no UE benefits.

EDD should have to prove for-cause employment to deny benefits.

Post the California law and I'll point out your error.

that is a violation of equal protection of the law; employment at the will of either party. only the right wing, never gets it.

that is a violation of equal protection of the law;

Post the California law and I'll point out your error.

employment at will is the law. the only error is your ignorance of the law.

Ca Labor Code 2922 is declared the law in California regarding employment relationships. EDD has to prove for-Cause employment to deny benefits.

employment at will is the law.

And the employment at will law doesn't cover unemployment benefits.
So your silly claim is wrong.

EDD has to prove for-Cause employment

Ohhh.....you've invented a new term "For-Cause Employment".

Show me where it is defined in California law.

dude read the law for yourself and stop appealing to ignorance.

there is a federal doctrine and State laws regarding the concept of employment at will.

dude read the law for yourself

Post it. I'll be happy to show you your error.

stop appealing to ignorance.

You made a claim, of course I appeal to you for proof.
Your inability to provide it speaks volumes.

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

They can fix the value of the currency, but they cannot fix the actual costs involved in producing goods and services. Face it, socialism has been tried several times and always fails when enough people realize they don't have to be productive to get paid. Then it all collapses, every time. You can't fight human nature.

yes, they can; it is called, taxation and regulation. this is why, no one takes the right wing seriously about economics.

Socialism worked in Venezuela.....but only for people who don't need food or toilet paper.

just lousy management; socialism works fine in the US.

Lousy socialists, lousy managers. In Venezuela, in the US, everywhere.......

even Hostess had that problem.

They're doing better now that they eliminated their socialists.

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

Taxation and regulation just end up killing the economy and ultimately the nation. You know this to be true, we all do. I have no idea why you continue spouting this line when we've seen untold millions of people die because their leaders are determined to force them to stay in socialist hellholes. When given a choice, people always go for freedom.

price controls. it is a power delegated to Government; why no complaints about our expensive, War on Drugs?

Nixon tried price controls. They didn't work. When price cannot adjust to meet market reality, shortages ensue. We're not talking about any war on drugs, we're talking about the horrors of socialism.

a minimum wage is a price control. so is the cost of money. socialism can be wonderful, if Only we could be moral enough for free, to achieve a Commune of Heaven on Earth. But, that takes a moral of Goodness and not a moral of Badness.

a minimum wage is a price control.

And it doesn't work.

yes, it does; we have one of the highest standards of living in the world.

A wage that impacts 2% of workers is the reason for our high standards? LOL!
You're hilarious!

 

[danielpalos]

that is a violation of equal protection of the law; employment at the will of either party. only the right wing, never gets it.

that is a violation of equal protection of the law;

Post the California law and I'll point out your error.

employment at will is the law. the only error is your ignorance of the law.

Ca Labor Code 2922 is declared the law in California regarding employment relationships. EDD has to prove for-Cause employment to deny benefits.

employment at will is the law.

And the employment at will law doesn't cover unemployment benefits.
So your silly claim is wrong.

EDD has to prove for-Cause employment

Ohhh.....you've invented a new term "For-Cause Employment".

Show me where it is defined in California law.

dude read the law for yourself and stop appealing to ignorance.

there is a federal doctrine and State laws regarding the concept of employment at will.

dude read the law for yourself

Post it. I'll be happy to show you your error.

stop appealing to ignorance.

You made a claim, of course I appeal to you for proof.
Your inability to provide it speaks volumes.

It really is as simple as employment, at the will of either party; your appeal to ignorance speaks volumes.

An employment, having no specified term, may be terminated at the will of either party on notice to the other.  Employment for a specified term means an employment for a period greater than one month.

 

[danielpalos]

yes, they can; it is called, taxation and regulation. this is why, no one takes the right wing seriously about economics.

Socialism worked in Venezuela.....but only for people who don't need food or toilet paper.

just lousy management; socialism works fine in the US.

Lousy socialists, lousy managers. In Venezuela, in the US, everywhere.......

even Hostess had that problem.

They're doing better now that they eliminated their socialists.

lousy management, you mean.

 

[danielpalos]

price controls. it is a power delegated to Government; why no complaints about our expensive, War on Drugs?

Nixon tried price controls. They didn't work. When price cannot adjust to meet market reality, shortages ensue. We're not talking about any war on drugs, we're talking about the horrors of socialism.

a minimum wage is a price control. so is the cost of money. socialism can be wonderful, if Only we could be moral enough for free, to achieve a Commune of Heaven on Earth. But, that takes a moral of Goodness and not a moral of Badness.

a minimum wage is a price control.

And it doesn't work.

yes, it does; we have one of the highest standards of living in the world.

A wage that impacts 2% of workers is the reason for our high standards? LOL!
You're hilarious!

yes; we have those Standards, third world economies do not. Only the right, never gets it.

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

that is a violation of equal protection of the law;

Post the California law and I'll point out your error.

employment at will is the law. the only error is your ignorance of the law.

Ca Labor Code 2922 is declared the law in California regarding employment relationships. EDD has to prove for-Cause employment to deny benefits.

employment at will is the law.

And the employment at will law doesn't cover unemployment benefits.
So your silly claim is wrong.

EDD has to prove for-Cause employment

Ohhh.....you've invented a new term "For-Cause Employment".

Show me where it is defined in California law.

dude read the law for yourself and stop appealing to ignorance.

there is a federal doctrine and State laws regarding the concept of employment at will.

dude read the law for yourself

Post it. I'll be happy to show you your error.

stop appealing to ignorance.

You made a claim, of course I appeal to you for proof.
Your inability to provide it speaks volumes.

It really is as simple as employment, at the will of either party; your appeal to ignorance speaks volumes.

An employment, having no specified term, may be terminated at the will of either party on notice to the other.  Employment for a specified term means an employment for a period greater than one month.

It really is as simple as.....

Your failure to post the law that supposedly is not protecting equally.

may be terminated at the will of either party on notice to the other.

That's weird, no mention there of unemployment benefits.

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

Socialism worked in Venezuela.....but only for people who don't need food or toilet paper.

just lousy management; socialism works fine in the US.

Lousy socialists, lousy managers. In Venezuela, in the US, everywhere.......

even Hostess had that problem.

They're doing better now that they eliminated their socialists.

lousy management, you mean.

Lousy economics, lousy management....that's socialism.