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sorry DUUUUUUUDe, its a business that serves the public ... it's not a private business ... if you serve the public then you have to accept all of the public not just the public you like... thats the law... where you get this idea thats its a private business is beyond me ... you have no Idea what you are saying or talking about when it come to doing business with the public
When it comes to services; I think the conservatives have a point; when it comes to goods, they have no point. What if every pharmacy decided they wouldn't sell heart medicine to blacks? This is what the hateful conservatives see as a "tough shit" proposition.
However, when you are talking about services such as photography for a wedding or a sitting or someone to do write resumes or what have you, unless you have a contract and THEN decide you don't want to work with blacks, you should have a right to simply refuse to do business in my view. I mean, I may want Taylor Swift to play at my graduation party. If I came up with her asking price, would she be bound to play? I hope not.
And an exceptional point on Taylor Swift. In JoeB's view, Taylor Swift has a "contract with the public" and thus should be forced to play at your graduation party.
Not according to your initial post. According to you - refusal is legal so long as their is a "little sign" (your words chief). I blinded them in red above. You keep contradicting your own position.
Furthermore, I will note your belief that poor children should die in the street because they can't afford shoes so that they can enter McDonald's.
Typical greedy/heartless liberal....
There is a difference in the eyes of the law
A person cannot help being black or gay. They are born that way. But Redneck Conservatives are that way by CHOICE. So "No Shirt, no Shoes, no Service" signs are a legal and effective way of keeping them out of your establishment
Besides, paying customers find it objectionable being forced to dine with them. You know how they are
Dude, what are you talking about?!? There are tons of children out there who can't afford shoes. They can't help that. But you think they should be denied food and die in the streets?
You keep contradicting yourself. I feel sorry for you (when I'm not laughing at you)
The solution is very simple. Christian bakers should do what muslim bakers do. Stop making wedding cakes unless the person is known to them. If wedding cakes are not offered to the general public as a service, gays will not be able to say they are victims of discrimination.
The problem is that there are those so ignorant and hateful that they feel the need to go to such lengths to discriminate.
Who knew that there are so many homophobic bakeries out there? I didn't.
What ever happened to the baker that wanted to increase the business and expand the customer base and provide the highest quality product or service to their paying clientele?
Bake a cake with salt and icing with vinegar. How fucking stupid.
A satisfied customer tells three people or so how satisfied they were with a company or service.
A dissatisfied customer tell how many how badly they were treated? 12? 15 people. Anybody that will listen?
That right there is how fucking smart Republicans who run small business's are. Piss off the good paying customers to satisfy some weird moral belief that gay people shouldn't be able to buy a cake from a publicly run business. And the business owner is willing to give up future business and risk a poor reputation...........for what? A moral victory.
Good god republicans are stupid.
There are those who prefer morality to profits. I will not condemn them and neither should you.
Yes...after giving it some more thought, I think it is better to wait until all the bigots aren't bigots any longer. Then gay people can have equal rights. It shouldn't take very long. We can change hearts and minds by allowing bigots to be bigots. Let's leave them alone! The more we ignore their bigotry, the faster they will come around to supporting gay rights.
If a guy is a bigot why on earth would you want to patronize his store?
Find another person who wants your business and values you as a customer.
True.Your religion is not a special privilege that exempts you from obeying the law.
Who knew that there are so many homophobic bakeries out there? I didn't.
What ever happened to the baker that wanted to increase the business and expand the customer base and provide the highest quality product or service to their paying clientele?
Bake a cake with salt and icing with vinegar. How fucking stupid.
A satisfied customer tells three people or so how satisfied they were with a company or service.
A dissatisfied customer tell how many how badly they were treated? 12? 15 people. Anybody that will listen?
That right there is how fucking smart Republicans who run small business's are. Piss off the good paying customers to satisfy some weird moral belief that gay people shouldn't be able to buy a cake from a publicly run business. And the business owner is willing to give up future business and risk a poor reputation...........for what? A moral victory.
Good god republicans are stupid.
Agreed.Yes...after giving it some more thought, I think it is better to wait until all the bigots aren't bigots any longer. Then gay people can have equal rights. It shouldn't take very long. We can change hearts and minds by allowing bigots to be bigots. Let's leave them alone! The more we ignore their bigotry, the faster they will come around to supporting gay rights.
If a guy is a bigot why on earth would you want to patronize his store?
Find another person who wants your business and values you as a customer.
Not the point. I want people to be treated equally. The law says they must be treated equally. I don't want a business who does not treat people equally fucking up the community I live in. I don't think segregation is cool. Don't want it in this country.
You want it.....work to get the laws changed. You don't want it? Then remaining silent is working against you.
I am not a "live and let live" kind of guy when it comes to bigotry. I will work to end it until I take my last breath. Ignoring it is counterproductive.
They have some sick form of inferiority complex which causes them to want to control everything and everyone.
Who knew that there are so many homophobic bakeries out there? I didn't.
What ever happened to the baker that wanted to increase the business and expand the customer base and provide the highest quality product or service to their paying clientele?
Bake a cake with salt and icing with vinegar. How fucking stupid.
A satisfied customer tells three people or so how satisfied they were with a company or service.
A dissatisfied customer tell how many how badly they were treated? 12? 15 people. Anybody that will listen?
That right there is how fucking smart Republicans who run small business's are. Piss off the good paying customers to satisfy some weird moral belief that gay people shouldn't be able to buy a cake from a publicly run business. And the business owner is willing to give up future business and risk a poor reputation...........for what? A moral victory.
Good god republicans are stupid.
No, dude, a dissatisfied customer goes on Yelp, Google Places, your company facebook page, and just about every place else they can find and tells people how much your service sucks.
I'm wondering if Rottie would be so understanding if someone said, "We don't serve Christians here."
I would say - GOOD! I don't want to do business with you then. Just as the gay community should with a baker who doesn't want to make a cake for a gay wedding. And then both sides can go about their lives in FREEDOM and let the chips fall where they may.
Simple..."Tyranny of the MINORITY" ...Forced acceptance. It's an affront to liberty. NO ONE has the right to force you to do business with anyone.Who knew that there are so many homophobic bakeries out there? I didn't.
What ever happened to the baker that wanted to increase the business and expand the customer base and provide the highest quality product or service to their paying clientele?
Bake a cake with salt and icing with vinegar. How fucking stupid.
A satisfied customer tells three people or so how satisfied they were with a company or service.
A dissatisfied customer tell how many how badly they were treated? 12? 15 people. Anybody that will listen?
That right there is how fucking smart Republicans who run small business's are. Piss off the good paying customers to satisfy some weird moral belief that gay people shouldn't be able to buy a cake from a publicly run business. And the business owner is willing to give up future business and risk a poor reputation...........for what? A moral victory.
Good god republicans are stupid.
If your contention is so effective, why didn't these two "gals" go out and tell 12-15 of their besties how badly they were treated and leave it at that? Why use the government cudgel to force anyone else to comply with their agenda? Why do their "rights" trump the baker's rights?
Quote: Originally Posted by JoeB131 View Post
I'm wondering if Rottie would be so understanding if someone said, "We don't serve Christians here."
I guarantee he would be just as understanding.
In my opinion he would denounce the person, refuse to do business with the person and tell his friends not to do business with them. But he would respect their right to their beliefs. He wouldn't try and get a law passed to stop the person from believing what they believe. But that is just my opinion.
I guarantee you I would respect and defend their right to hate Christians. And then I would tell Christians that I know that they hate Christians so that those people could decide for themselves whether or not they want to do business with someone like that.
Freedom and choice....incomprehensible concepts to little Nazi liberals.
Simple..."Tyranny of the MINORITY" ...Forced acceptance. It's an affront to liberty. NO ONE has the right to force you to do business with anyone.Who knew that there are so many homophobic bakeries out there? I didn't.
What ever happened to the baker that wanted to increase the business and expand the customer base and provide the highest quality product or service to their paying clientele?
Bake a cake with salt and icing with vinegar. How fucking stupid.
A satisfied customer tells three people or so how satisfied they were with a company or service.
A dissatisfied customer tell how many how badly they were treated? 12? 15 people. Anybody that will listen?
That right there is how fucking smart Republicans who run small business's are. Piss off the good paying customers to satisfy some weird moral belief that gay people shouldn't be able to buy a cake from a publicly run business. And the business owner is willing to give up future business and risk a poor reputation...........for what? A moral victory.
Good god republicans are stupid.
If your contention is so effective, why didn't these two "gals" go out and tell 12-15 of their besties how badly they were treated and leave it at that? Why use the government cudgel to force anyone else to comply with their agenda? Why do their "rights" trump the baker's rights?
Your religion is not a special privilege that exempts you from obeying the law.
The gay community and the liberals have lost their little Nazi minds. A privately owned business has the right to refuse to conduct business with anybody they want. Period. It's not even open for debate.
Further still, the 1st Amendment affords you the right to practice your religious belief. And the little liberal/gay Nazi community is working so hard to trample on that right as well.
All I can say is that I hope these companies deliver the most dreadful products and services when they are unconstitutionally forced to by the liberal Nazi's. If you're a bakery and you're forced to bake a cake for a gay wedding, I hope you put 70lbs of salt in the cake and make the frosting primarily out of vinegar so that they vomit when they eat it. Then maybe word will spread in their little gay circles that your bakery isn't any good and you can be left the hell alone to conduct your private business as you see fit.
*Note - desperate Nazi liberals will try to spin this as "homophobia" because they need to justify their anti-constitutional Nazi beliefs. However, it is not. I couldn't care less if someone is gay. What I do care about however is when they unconstitutionally force someone to do their bidding because they think being gay makes them special and entitled.
It's an agenda of reeducation
Carbonated could care less about the Constitution. He is like his savior, Obama that has as much distain for it as well.Your religion is not a special privilege that exempts you from obeying the law.
Like everything else in life, you have it completely backwards...
The law does not get to impede on my religion. You would know that if you ever actually read the U.S. Constitution.
Quote: Originally Posted by JoeB131 View Post
I'm wondering if Rottie would be so understanding if someone said, "We don't serve Christians here."
I guarantee he would be just as understanding.
In my opinion he would denounce the person, refuse to do business with the person and tell his friends not to do business with them. But he would respect their right to their beliefs. He wouldn't try and get a law passed to stop the person from believing what they believe. But that is just my opinion.
I guarantee you I would respect and defend their right to hate Christians. And then I would tell Christians that I know that they hate Christians so that those people could decide for themselves whether or not they want to do business with someone like that.
Freedom and choice....incomprehensible concepts to little Nazi liberals.
You would do what now? You'd tell your friends? Why? Why not just forget it altogether? No big deal, right?
There is no way that you would just let it go, bro. No way in hell.
The gay community and the liberals have lost their little Nazi minds. A privately owned business has the right to refuse to conduct business with anybody they want. Period. It's not even open for debate.
Further still, the 1st Amendment affords you the right to practice your religious belief. And the little liberal/gay Nazi community is working so hard to trample on that right as well.
All I can say is that I hope these companies deliver the most dreadful products and services when they are unconstitutionally forced to by the liberal Nazi's. If you're a bakery and you're forced to bake a cake for a gay wedding, I hope you put 70lbs of salt in the cake and make the frosting primarily out of vinegar so that they vomit when they eat it. Then maybe word will spread in their little gay circles that your bakery isn't any good and you can be left the hell alone to conduct your private business as you see fit.
*Note - desperate Nazi liberals will try to spin this as "homophobia" because they need to justify their anti-constitutional Nazi beliefs. However, it is not. I couldn't care less if someone is gay. What I do care about however is when they unconstitutionally force someone to do their bidding because they think being gay makes them special and entitled.
It's an agenda of reeducation
My avatar on here used to be a wimpy, whining guy waving his hands in the air with "Scared White People" written over his head. I think it's time to get that one back.
