When You Go to the Emergency Room in California, You’ll Have Obamacare to Thank

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When You Go to the Emergency Room in California, You’ll Have Obamacare to Thank for New Problems

Oh my more problems for Obamacare
According to Dr. Jay Kaplin of the American College of Emergency Physicians, almost half of emergency physicians are reporting that their emergency department visits have risen since Obamacare went into effect.
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One emergency center in Fresno, California, at Community Regional Medical Center, is currently taking in 300-400 patients a day.

Wait times are up to 5 hours right now
 
When You Go to the Emergency Room in California, You’ll Have Obamacare to Thank for New Problems

Oh my more problems for Obamacare
According to Dr. Jay Kaplin of the American College of Emergency Physicians, almost half of emergency physicians are reporting that their emergency department visits have risen since Obamacare went into effect.
*
One emergency center in Fresno, California, at Community Regional Medical Center, is currently taking in 300-400 patients a day.

Wait times are up to 5 hours right now
Hey, maybe, just maybe, we need a better health care system? Now I wonder what that might be, hmmmm..., maybe Universal Single-Payer with a few private plans like so many other nations have? Could be I guess...
 
When You Go to the Emergency Room in California, You’ll Have Obamacare to Thank for New Problems

Oh my more problems for Obamacare
According to Dr. Jay Kaplin of the American College of Emergency Physicians, almost half of emergency physicians are reporting that their emergency department visits have risen since Obamacare went into effect.
*
One emergency center in Fresno, California, at Community Regional Medical Center, is currently taking in 300-400 patients a day.

Wait times are up to 5 hours right now

Gee, wonder why.

Oh yeah, in the past what these patients did was go to the County hospital, get the same treatment they are now getting and walked out of the Hospital a few days later. And the Taxpayers usually cough up 100% of the costs.

The difference is today that they go to the hospital, their insurance--THAT THEY ARE PAYING FOR--pays part of the bill, they pay the rest (or not) and the taxpayers pay $0.00. Now there are plans that are subsidized....that is true. But not all are.

The costs to the taxpayer is still much lower.

Yes, I think I will thank Mr. Obama for that.
 
When You Go to the Emergency Room in California, You’ll Have Obamacare to Thank for New Problems

Oh my more problems for Obamacare
According to Dr. Jay Kaplin of the American College of Emergency Physicians, almost half of emergency physicians are reporting that their emergency department visits have risen since Obamacare went into effect.
*
One emergency center in Fresno, California, at Community Regional Medical Center, is currently taking in 300-400 patients a day.

Wait times are up to 5 hours right now
wait times before ACA was about the same.
 
When You Go to the Emergency Room in California, You’ll Have Obamacare to Thank for New Problems

Oh my more problems for Obamacare
According to Dr. Jay Kaplin of the American College of Emergency Physicians, almost half of emergency physicians are reporting that their emergency department visits have risen since Obamacare went into effect.
*
One emergency center in Fresno, California, at Community Regional Medical Center, is currently taking in 300-400 patients a day.
Wait times are up to 5 hours right now
Hey, maybe, just maybe, we need a better health care system? Now I wonder what that might be, hmmmm..., maybe Universal Single-Payer with a few private plans like so many other nations have? Could be I guess...

Which would get people out of the ER how, exactly?
 
When You Go to the Emergency Room in California, You’ll Have Obamacare to Thank for New Problems

Oh my more problems for Obamacare
According to Dr. Jay Kaplin of the American College of Emergency Physicians, almost half of emergency physicians are reporting that their emergency department visits have risen since Obamacare went into effect.
*
One emergency center in Fresno, California, at Community Regional Medical Center, is currently taking in 300-400 patients a day.
Wait times are up to 5 hours right now

Gee, wonder why.

Oh yeah, in the past what these patients did was go to the County hospital, get the same treatment they are now getting and walked out of the Hospital a few days later. And the Taxpayers usually cough up 100% of the costs.

The difference is today that they go to the hospital, their insurance--THAT THEY ARE PAYING FOR--pays part of the bill, they pay the rest (or not) and the taxpayers pay $0.00. Now there are plans that are subsidized....that is true. But not all are.

The costs to the taxpayer is still much lower.

Yes, I think I will thank Mr. Obama for that.

The difference is that taxpayers are still picking up the tab, you just get to pretend they aren't because you believe in magic money.
 
When You Go to the Emergency Room in California, You’ll Have Obamacare to Thank for New Problems

Oh my more problems for Obamacare
According to Dr. Jay Kaplin of the American College of Emergency Physicians, almost half of emergency physicians are reporting that their emergency department visits have risen since Obamacare went into effect.
*
One emergency center in Fresno, California, at Community Regional Medical Center, is currently taking in 300-400 patients a day.
Wait times are up to 5 hours right now
wait times before ACA was about the same.

They were not, but thanks for demonstrating your complete ignorance of reality.
 
wait times before ACA was about the same.

They were not, but thanks for demonstrating your complete ignorance of reality.

yes they were...since you know i had to go and the wait time was 5 hours.

Was that in a relatively small city, like Fresno, with a population of roughly 500,000, or a large city with more people in it?

Your problem is you ignore reality in favor of your bias. Even HuffPo is saying wait times are increasing, and blaming it in Obamacare.

Obamacare Could Cause Longer Wait Times At ERs, Doctors Say

Pull your head out of your fucking ass for once in your pathetic excuse for defending the government no matter how bad it is.
 
Hey, maybe, just maybe, we need a better health care system? Now I wonder what that might be, hmmmm..., maybe Universal Single-Payer with a few private plans like so many other nations have? Could be I guess...

Which would get people out of the ER how, exactly?

Cheap local clinics with lots of PAs, tons of nurses, and a few docs just to check on the serious stuff. No need for ERs if you can just walk in down the street, and it's paid for communally, as it should be...
 
They were not, but thanks for demonstrating your complete ignorance of reality.

yes they were...since you know i had to go and the wait time was 5 hours.

Was that in a relatively small city, like Fresno, with a population of roughly 500,000, or a large city with more people in it?

Your problem is you ignore reality in favor of your bias. Even HuffPo is saying wait times are increasing, and blaming it in Obamacare.

Obamacare Could Cause Longer Wait Times At ERs, Doctors Say

Pull your head out of your fucking ass for once in your pathetic excuse for defending the government no matter how bad it is.

it was san diego. See here is the problem. You can't read. When the title says COULD lead to X y and Z that doesnt mean its happening.

you people do this all the time. you treat this shit as fact when its just speculation.
 
When You Go to the Emergency Room in California, You’ll Have Obamacare to Thank for New Problems

Oh my more problems for Obamacare
According to Dr. Jay Kaplin of the American College of Emergency Physicians, almost half of emergency physicians are reporting that their emergency department visits have risen since Obamacare went into effect.
*
One emergency center in Fresno, California, at Community Regional Medical Center, is currently taking in 300-400 patients a day.

Wait times are up to 5 hours right now
Hey, maybe, just maybe, we need a better health care system? Now I wonder what that might be, hmmmm..., maybe Universal Single-Payer with a few private plans like so many other nations have? Could be I guess...
A socialist idiots dream, but you would love that considering you are a socialist idiot.
 

Gee, wonder why.

Oh yeah, in the past what these patients did was go to the County hospital, get the same treatment they are now getting and walked out of the Hospital a few days later. And the Taxpayers usually cough up 100% of the costs.

The difference is today that they go to the hospital, their insurance--THAT THEY ARE PAYING FOR--pays part of the bill, they pay the rest (or not) and the taxpayers pay $0.00. Now there are plans that are subsidized....that is true. But not all are.

The costs to the taxpayer is still much lower.

Yes, I think I will thank Mr. Obama for that.

The difference is that taxpayers are still picking up the tab, you just get to pretend they aren't because you believe in magic money.

Factually incorrect.
 
Ya know I slashed my finger at work today, did i waste time going to a doctor and getting stitches? Hell no, supper glue work's wonders and only cost around $3 bucks.We live in a nation of liberal moma
Boy's.
 
Hey, maybe, just maybe, we need a better health care system? Now I wonder what that might be, hmmmm..., maybe Universal Single-Payer with a few private plans like so many other nations have? Could be I guess...

Which would get people out of the ER how, exactly?

Cheap local clinics with lots of PAs, tons of nurses, and a few docs just to check on the serious stuff. No need for ERs if you can just walk in down the street, and it's paid for communally, as it should be...

Except that they aren't cheap. I know, they are setting that up right here in San Francisco, and it is far from cheap.
 
When You Go to the Emergency Room in California, You’ll Have Obamacare to Thank for New Problems

Oh my more problems for Obamacare
According to Dr. Jay Kaplin of the American College of Emergency Physicians, almost half of emergency physicians are reporting that their emergency department visits have risen since Obamacare went into effect.
*
One emergency center in Fresno, California, at Community Regional Medical Center, is currently taking in 300-400 patients a day.

Wait times are up to 5 hours right now

Doubtful, and the reason is urgent care facilities.

"If you’re experiencing an illness or injury that is serious, but not an emergency, consider visiting an urgent care center to receive care that is typically faster and costs less than an emergency room visit.

Urgent care centers provide many of the same basic medical services as a doctor's office, often with extended hours for delivering services and lower out-of-pocket costs. Staffed with qualified professionals, urgent care centers are ideal for non-emergency care when your doctor is not available: "

https://www.blueshieldca.com/bsca/find-a-provider/urgent-care-centers.sp

I cut my thumb open and needed stitches. Urgent care was the way to go. Same day appointments when it can wait a couple of hours. And 'emergency' visits when it just can't wait.

If don't need an ambulance, you don't need the emergency room.

Oh, and by the way, it's not an "Obamacare" problem. It's a supply problem. The problem was always there. You just weren't paying attention. Before, people just didn't get anycare. Their ware time was infinity.
 
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yes they were...since you know i had to go and the wait time was 5 hours.

Was that in a relatively small city, like Fresno, with a population of roughly 500,000, or a large city with more people in it?

Your problem is you ignore reality in favor of your bias. Even HuffPo is saying wait times are increasing, and blaming it in Obamacare.

Obamacare Could Cause Longer Wait Times At ERs, Doctors Say

Pull your head out of your fucking ass for once in your pathetic excuse for defending the government no matter how bad it is.

it was san diego. See here is the problem. You can't read. When the title says COULD lead to X y and Z that doesnt mean its happening.

you people do this all the time. you treat this shit as fact when its just speculation.

I can read, I just used PuffHo to make a point.

ERs are getting more crowded, leading to longer wait times.*-*Los Angeles Times
 
Gee, wonder why.

Oh yeah, in the past what these patients did was go to the County hospital, get the same treatment they are now getting and walked out of the Hospital a few days later. And the Taxpayers usually cough up 100% of the costs.

The difference is today that they go to the hospital, their insurance--THAT THEY ARE PAYING FOR--pays part of the bill, they pay the rest (or not) and the taxpayers pay $0.00. Now there are plans that are subsidized....that is true. But not all are.

The costs to the taxpayer is still much lower.

Yes, I think I will thank Mr. Obama for that.

The difference is that taxpayers are still picking up the tab, you just get to pretend they aren't because you believe in magic money.

Factually incorrect.

Absolutely true, where the fuck do you think all those subsidies come and the expansion of Medicare come from if it isn't taxpayers?
 
When You Go to the Emergency Room in California, You’ll Have Obamacare to Thank for New Problems

Oh my more problems for Obamacare
According to Dr. Jay Kaplin of the American College of Emergency Physicians, almost half of emergency physicians are reporting that their emergency department visits have risen since Obamacare went into effect.
*
One emergency center in Fresno, California, at Community Regional Medical Center, is currently taking in 300-400 patients a day.
Wait times are up to 5 hours right now

Doubtful, and the reason is urgent care facilities.

"If you’re experiencing an illness or injury that is serious, but not an emergency, consider visiting an urgent care center to receive care that is typically faster and costs less than an emergency room visit.

Urgent care centers provide many of the same basic medical services as a doctor's office, often with extended hours for delivering services and lower out-of-pocket costs. Staffed with qualified professionals, urgent care centers are ideal for non-emergency care when your doctor is not available: "

https://www.blueshieldca.com/bsca/find-a-provider/urgent-care-centers.sp

I cut my thumb open and needed stitches. Urgent care was the way to go. Same day appointments when it can wait a couple of hours. And 'emergency' visits when it just can't wait.

If don't need an ambulance, you don't need the emergency room.

That only works if there are urgent care facilities available, but thanks for pretending that you know what you are talking about.

By the way, Blue Cross doesn't cover the urgent care center nearest my house, which just proves that Obamacare is perfect.
 

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