Where is the Christian compassion for immigrant children?

[kaz]

Any notion of the "The Public Good" is seen as "Socialism" (socialism being anything the government does for the non-wealthy)

First, you are wrong about what the public good means. You think it means redistribution of wealth. Actually, it means it benefits everyone. Roads, police, defense, fire, civil and criminal courts, those things benefit everyone. Confiscating wealth from one person and giving it to another is not "the public good," it is plunder.

So you are wrong that non-liberals don't support the common good, we do. We don't support government using force to plunder it's citizens.

Thanks for proving my point.

Ah, so you were trying to say you're an idiot? My bad, I missed that...

 

[Chris]

First, you are wrong about what the public good means. You think it means redistribution of wealth. Actually, it means it benefits everyone. Roads, police, defense, fire, civil and criminal courts, those things benefit everyone. Confiscating wealth from one person and giving it to another is not "the public good," it is plunder.

So you are wrong that non-liberals don't support the common good, we do. We don't support government using force to plunder it's citizens.

Thanks for proving my point.

Ah, so you were trying to say you're an idiot? My bad, I missed that...

Apology accepted, Captain Needa.

 

[beagle9]

For Republicans America is a platform for individual fulfillment. But here's the catch: the Individual is defined in the narrowest possible terms. Any notion of the "The Public Good" is seen as "Socialism" (socialism being anything the government does for the non-wealthy). The Free Market will fix New Orleans levees. The Free Market will effectively control the amount of derivative based risk Wall Street will take. The Free Market will get us off imported oil(rather than spending decades making terrorists stronger). The Free Market will keep our rivers clean. The Free Market will make healthcare more efficient. The Free Market won't bribe Washington in order to increase it's profit margin. We don't need to worry about "The Public Good", individual selfishness driven by short term profit is a utopian reflex.

But the world doesn't work that way. Selfishness harms society....tears it apart....destroys the world economy....spills millions of barrels of oil in the Gulf of Mexico.....tears a hole in the ozone...creates a garbage patch in the Pacific Ocean twice the size of Texas...melts the North Polar ice cap.....creates massive deficits by giving huge tax breaks to the wealthy....

But the Republicans celebrate this selfishness. It is their core value. For them greed is good.

Republicans eh ? Well where were all the democrats while all this has been going on for the last 60 years ?

I can think of many places they were, so talk about not giving a care as long as their bread was being buttered too or their tummy's were being tickled (LOL). There is no one party to blame, because one hides it hand while the others don't, but they are both involved in the problem.

 

[beagle9]

Any notion of the "The Public Good" is seen as "Socialism" (socialism being anything the government does for the non-wealthy)

First, you are wrong about what the public good means. You think it means redistribution of wealth. Actually, it means it benefits everyone. Roads, police, defense, fire, civil and criminal courts, those things benefit everyone. Confiscating wealth from one person and giving it to another is not "the public good," it is plunder.

So you are wrong that non-liberals don't support the common good, we do. We don't support government using force to plunder it's citizens.

Good post..

 

[Chris]

For Republicans America is a platform for individual fulfillment. But here's the catch: the Individual is defined in the narrowest possible terms. Any notion of the "The Public Good" is seen as "Socialism" (socialism being anything the government does for the non-wealthy). The Free Market will fix New Orleans levees. The Free Market will effectively control the amount of derivative based risk Wall Street will take. The Free Market will get us off imported oil(rather than spending decades making terrorists stronger). The Free Market will keep our rivers clean. The Free Market will make healthcare more efficient. The Free Market won't bribe Washington in order to increase it's profit margin. We don't need to worry about "The Public Good", individual selfishness driven by short term profit is a utopian reflex.

But the world doesn't work that way. Selfishness harms society....tears it apart....destroys the world economy....spills millions of barrels of oil in the Gulf of Mexico.....tears a hole in the ozone...creates a garbage patch in the Pacific Ocean twice the size of Texas...melts the North Polar ice cap.....creates massive deficits by giving huge tax breaks to the wealthy....

But the Republicans celebrate this selfishness. It is their core value. For them greed is good.

Republicans eh ? Well where were all the democrats while all this has been going on for the last 60 years ?

I can think of many places they were, so talk about not giving a care as long as their bread was being buttered too or their tummy's were being tickled (LOL). There is no one party to blame, because one hides it hand while the others don't, but they are both involved in the problem.

Democrats and Republicans are not equivalent.

It was Republicans that allowed a deregulated Wall Street to destroy the world economy in 2008.

It was Republicans on the Supreme Court that voted to allow unlimited secret campaign contributions.

It was Republicans in Congress that voted against infrastructure spending that would have lowered unemployment.

It was Republicans in Congress who shut down the government and threatened the country with default.

 

[Theowl32]

Nothing new has happened in these countries to cause a crisis. The crisis is obama.

Yes it should be investigated as to what has changed in these countries over the last decade or more, and then it should be walked back up to the current events in order to see exactly why now ?

Why now do we see all of this attempt at flooding our border in the ways that they are doing it all of a sudden? It has to be all due to the policies or weakness that this President is showing when it comes to upholding the laws of this nation, and this is because of him placing his middle finger up at the laws we have in this nation. The illegals are not the only ones doing this, but many groups are on board the band wagon of breaking the laws while it last for them.

It can be traced and it more than likely involves this woman.

Cecilia Munoz, appointed by the liar in chief.

Cecilia Muñoz (born July 27, 1962) is director of the White House Domestic Policy Council. Prior to that, she served as the White House Director of Intergovernmental Affairs. A longtime civil rights advocate, she worked as Senior Vice President for the Office of Research, Advocacy and Legislation at the National Council of La Raza (NCLR), a nonprofit organization established to improve opportunities for Hispanic Americans, overseeing advocacy activities that cover issues of importance to immigrants


Ever hear of La Raza (the race?) It is a radical group and the equivalent of any white power group. As we know, the left......oh....never mind.

http://www.discoverthenetworks.org/printgroupProfile.asp?grpid=153

The words “La Raza” (Spanish for “The Race&#8221 in NCLR's name have long been a source of considerable controversy. Critics claim that the name reflects an organizational commitment to racial separatism and race-based grievance mongering. By NCLR's telling, however, such critics have mistranslated the word “Raza.” “The term 'La Raza,'” says the organization, “has its origins in early 20th century Latin American literature and translates into English most closely as 'the people' or, according to some scholars, 'the Hispanic people of the New World.'” According to NCLR, “the full term,” which was coined by the Mexican scholar José Vasconcelos, is “la raza cósmica,” meaning “the cosmic people.” NCLR describes this as “an inclusive concept” whose purpose is to express the fact that “Hispanics share with all other peoples of the world a common heritage and destiny.”


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In this very important election year, the democrats as usual are using their divisive tactics in order to edify all of the minority vote. They have a lock on the black vote for obvious reasons.

This woman, appointed by Obama organized all of this. Her intentions are her intentions. A complete radical, and as we know anyone that is not white and democrat can never have ulterior motives.

No, they systematically sent CHILDREN in order vilify the right. Knowing they would make endless protests in order to uphold the law. Just like every other country would do around the world.

They counted on it, and media being complicate with the destruction of white right wing America and pushing the socialist agenda gladly paints the law abiding citizens as mean. They paint "Christians" as turning their backs on these poor suffering people.

They hardly report the vast Christian groups providing the children with provisions. The feds actually would not allow Christian groups to help out for curious reasons. I think we all know....at least those of us that do not have our heads buried in our asses.

This is an organized move by this fucking pathetic president, whose goal has been to take down the capitalist system he hates, and make the US Constitution irrelevant. It is pretty much a coup that we are seeing. This is just another example.

You think I am being paranoid?

 

[Chris]

The William Wilberforce Trafficking Victims Protection Reauthorization Act of 2008, passed the House and Senate unanimously and was signed into law by President George W. Bush states that we cannot just send these children back.

 

[beagle9]

For Republicans America is a platform for individual fulfillment. But here's the catch: the Individual is defined in the narrowest possible terms. Any notion of the "The Public Good" is seen as "Socialism" (socialism being anything the government does for the non-wealthy). The Free Market will fix New Orleans levees. The Free Market will effectively control the amount of derivative based risk Wall Street will take. The Free Market will get us off imported oil(rather than spending decades making terrorists stronger). The Free Market will keep our rivers clean. The Free Market will make healthcare more efficient. The Free Market won't bribe Washington in order to increase it's profit margin. We don't need to worry about "The Public Good", individual selfishness driven by short term profit is a utopian reflex.

But the world doesn't work that way. Selfishness harms society....tears it apart....destroys the world economy....spills millions of barrels of oil in the Gulf of Mexico.....tears a hole in the ozone...creates a garbage patch in the Pacific Ocean twice the size of Texas...melts the North Polar ice cap.....creates massive deficits by giving huge tax breaks to the wealthy....

But the Republicans celebrate this selfishness. It is their core value. For them greed is good.

Republicans eh ? Well where were all the democrats while all this has been going on for the last 60 years ?

I can think of many places they were, so talk about not giving a care as long as their bread was being buttered too or their tummy's were being tickled (LOL). There is no one party to blame, because one hides it hand while the others don't, but they are both involved in the problem.

Democrats and Republicans are not equivalent.

It was Republicans that allowed a deregulated Wall Street to destroy the world economy in 2008.

It was Republicans on the Supreme Court that voted to allow unlimited secret campaign contributions.

It was Republicans in Congress that voted against infrastructure spending that would have lowered unemployment.

It was Republicans in Congress who shut down the government and threatened the country with default.

And why would they deliberately do all of that ? Could it be that they were forced into these ways of thinking, and all because of what the democrats were doing to the nation ? It may have been this thought they were having - You know hey we better get all we can get before these people destroy the American dream in which they are after big time now to destroy.

Now who pushed the repubs into becoming who they are when looking back now ? Think about it, and think about all that has taken place over the years since.

 

[Theowl32]

The William Wilberforce Trafficking Victims Protection Reauthorization Act of 2008, passed the House and Senate unanimously and was signed into law by President George W. Bush states that we cannot just send these children back.

Yeah, we all know they use the law that was meant to protect children from one aspect in order to take advantage of this situation. Typical of liberals, and typical of a piece of shit like you. The 2008 law was about "sex trafficking" of children. That's not what is happening today. They are voluntarily coming today because Obama told them they could. The 2008 legislation has nothing to do with the flood coming across our border during this past year. The liberal press/media fails to mention this as they attempt to blame all this on George W. Bush. Sorry....but Obama's been in office for almost 6 years. This has all happened under his watch.

 

[Chris]

The William Wilberforce Trafficking Victims Protection Reauthorization Act of 2008, passed the House and Senate unanimously and was signed into law by President George W. Bush states that we cannot just send these children back.

Yeah, we all know they use the law that was meant to protect children from one aspect in order to take advantage of this situation. Typical of liberals, and typical of a piece of shit like you. The 2008 law was about "sex trafficking" of children. That's not what is happening today. They are voluntarily coming today because Obama told them they could. The 2008 legislation has nothing to do with the flood coming across our border during this past year. The liberal press/media fails to mention this as they attempt to blame all this on George W. Bush. Sorry....but Obama's been in office for almost 6 years. This has all happened under his watch.

Obama deported 2 millions illegals in 6 years, more than any other president.

 

[beagle9]

The William Wilberforce Trafficking Victims Protection Reauthorization Act of 2008, passed the House and Senate unanimously and was signed into law by President George W. Bush states that we cannot just send these children back.

Different time period, different circumstances, so the law should be revisited and amended as so not to be exploited in these ways.

 

[Chris]

The William Wilberforce Trafficking Victims Protection Reauthorization Act of 2008, passed the House and Senate unanimously and was signed into law by President George W. Bush states that we cannot just send these children back.

Different time period, different circumstances, so the law should be revisited and amended as so not to be exploited in these ways.

In the meantime Republicans refuse to help these poor people who are trying to escape poverty and gang violence.

 

[Care4all]

Nothing new has happened in these countries to cause a crisis. The crisis is obama.

Yes it should be investigated as to what has changed in these countries over the last decade or more, and then it should be walked back up to the current events in order to see exactly why now ?

Why now do we see all of this attempt at flooding our border in the ways that they are doing it all of a sudden? It has to be all due to the policies or weakness that this President is showing when it comes to upholding the laws of this nation, and this is because of him placing his middle finger up at the laws we have in this nation. The illegals are not the only ones doing this, but many groups are on board the band wagon of breaking the laws while it last for them.

It can be traced and it more than likely involves this woman.

Cecilia Munoz, appointed by the liar in chief.

Cecilia Muñoz (born July 27, 1962) is director of the White House Domestic Policy Council. Prior to that, she served as the White House Director of Intergovernmental Affairs. A longtime civil rights advocate, she worked as Senior Vice President for the Office of Research, Advocacy and Legislation at the National Council of La Raza (NCLR), a nonprofit organization established to improve opportunities for Hispanic Americans, overseeing advocacy activities that cover issues of importance to immigrants


Ever hear of La Raza (the race?) It is a radical group and the equivalent of any white power group. As we know, the left......oh....never mind.

http://www.discoverthenetworks.org/printgroupProfile.asp?grpid=153

The words “La Raza” (Spanish for “The Race”) in NCLR's name have long been a source of considerable controversy. Critics claim that the name reflects an organizational commitment to racial separatism and race-based grievance mongering. By NCLR's telling, however, such critics have mistranslated the word “Raza.” “The term 'La Raza,'” says the organization, “has its origins in early 20th century Latin American literature and translates into English most closely as 'the people' or, according to some scholars, 'the Hispanic people of the New World.'” According to NCLR, “the full term,” which was coined by the Mexican scholar José Vasconcelos, is “la raza cósmica,” meaning “the cosmic people.” NCLR describes this as “an inclusive concept” whose purpose is to express the fact that “Hispanics share with all other peoples of the world a common heritage and destiny.”


-----------------------------------

In this very important election year, the democrats as usual are using their divisive tactics in order to edify all of the minority vote. They have a lock on the black vote for obvious reasons.

This woman, appointed by Obama organized all of this. Her intentions are her intentions. A complete radical, and as we know anyone that is not white and democrat can never have ulterior motives.

No, they systematically sent CHILDREN in order vilify the right. Knowing they would make endless protests in order to uphold the law. Just like every other country would do around the world.

They counted on it, and media being complicate with the destruction of white right wing America and pushing the socialist agenda gladly paints the law abiding citizens as mean. They paint "Christians" as turning their backs on these poor suffering people.

They hardly report the vast Christian groups providing the children with provisions. The feds actually would not allow Christian groups to help out for curious reasons. I think we all know....at least those of us that do not have our heads buried in our asses.

This is an organized move by this fucking pathetic president, whose goal has been to take down the capitalist system he hates, and make the US Constitution irrelevant. It is pretty much a coup that we are seeing. This is just another example.

You think I am being paranoid?

This woman, appointed by Obama organized all of this. Her intentions are her intentions. A complete radical, and as we know anyone that is not white and democrat can never have ulterior motives.

PROVE IT, LINK IT or it didn't happen and it once again is just ANOTHER made up, cry wolf, LIE from the right wing....

This refugee imigration crisis, nor the money it takes to process them, nor the publicity, does not help Obama, who is running for nothing in the future, nor does it help Democrats....they already have the support of Hispanics that are legal citizens and can vote, and NONE of these refugees would be eligible for the Dream act, because they would need to have lived here for a minimum of 5 years BEFORE the bill passes congress, and would have needed to already have been here before the age of 15, would have already have attended school or colleges here etc etc etc.........

THESE REFUGEES, were never eligible for the dream act, never.....

so, logic says, no way Jose on it being this woman you are now trying to point the finger at....

and according to La Raza, it does NOT MEAN the RACE....they would know better than you....it means the people, or the cosmic people if you use its full name

 

[beagle9]

The William Wilberforce Trafficking Victims Protection Reauthorization Act of 2008, passed the House and Senate unanimously and was signed into law by President George W. Bush states that we cannot just send these children back.

Yeah, we all know they use the law that was meant to protect children from one aspect in order to take advantage of this situation. Typical of liberals, and typical of a piece of shit like you. The 2008 law was about "sex trafficking" of children. That's not what is happening today. They are voluntarily coming today because Obama told them they could. The 2008 legislation has nothing to do with the flood coming across our border during this past year. The liberal press/media fails to mention this as they attempt to blame all this on George W. Bush. Sorry....but Obama's been in office for almost 6 years. This has all happened under his watch.

Obama deported 2 millions illegals in 6 years, more than any other president.

Yeah and he did this under pressure to do the right thing or else lose even more percentage points on his record as President over the years. Again Obama is supposed to work for all Americans, even though he hates in when he does or when he has too.

 

[C_Clayton_Jones]

The William Wilberforce Trafficking Victims Protection Reauthorization Act of 2008, passed the House and Senate unanimously and was signed into law by President George W. Bush states that we cannot just send these children back.

Correct.

And rather than displaying their ignorance of, and contempt for, the rule of law, conservatives need to either obey the law or seek its repeal.

Of course, for most on the partisan right, they couldn't care less about the welfare of the children, or finding a solution to the problem, as they seek only to use the issue as a partisan weapon against the president.

 

[XPostFacto]

Christianity begins at home. Where is the Christian compassion in their home country? It's so absent that these children are being forced to come here for freebies. My Christian compassion falls short when freeloaders want to come here and take something for nothing.

 

[beagle9]

The William Wilberforce Trafficking Victims Protection Reauthorization Act of 2008, passed the House and Senate unanimously and was signed into law by President George W. Bush states that we cannot just send these children back.

Different time period, different circumstances, so the law should be revisited and amended as so not to be exploited in these ways.

In the meantime Republicans refuse to help these poor people who are trying to escape poverty and gang violence.

There are ways to help them, but helping them by putting a band aid on the situation is not helping them at all, but rather it is mentally abusing them instead. The dems don't mind abusing poor people mentally, just as long as it makes the repubs look bad if they can somehow blame it on them.

 

[Theowl32]

It was Republicans that allowed a deregulated Wall Street to destroy the world economy in 2008.

I find it hilarious how you stupid ignorant fucks do not see the bipartisan fingerprints all over that. Do know or care who repealed Glass Steagall which led to the deregulation?

I also find it funny how all of those CEOs were busted under Bush.

You stupid fuck.

Fact Check: Obama Had More to Do With 2008 Economic Meltdown Than Bush Ever Did | The Gateway Pundit

In 1994, Barack Obama was one of the plaintiffs in a class action lawsuit, alleging that Citibank had engaged in practices that discriminated against minorities. The lawsuit forced the bank to ease its lending practices.
The Daily Caller reported:

President Barack Obama was a pioneering contributor to the national subprime real estate bubble, and roughly half of the 186 African-American clients in his landmark 1995 mortgage discrimination lawsuit against Citibank have since gone bankrupt or received foreclosure notices…

…Obama has pursued the same top-down mortgage lending policies in the White House.

Obama’s lawsuit was one element of a national “anti-redlining” campaign led by Chicago’s progressive groups, who argued that banks unfairly refused to lend money to people living within so-called “redlines” around African-American communities. The campaign was powered by progressives’ moral claim that their expertise could boost home ownership among the United States’ most disadvantaged minority, African-Americans.

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Briefing Room | The White House

President Bush warned the Democratic Congress 17 times in 2008 alone about the systemic consequences of financial turmoil at Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac.

The White House released this list of attempts by President Bush to reform Freddie Mae and Freddie Mac since he took office in 2001.
Unfortunately, Congress did not act on the president’s warnings:

** 2001

April: The Administration’s FY02 budget declares that the size of Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac is “a potential problem,” because “financial trouble of a large GSE could cause strong repercussions in financial markets, affecting Federally insured entities and economic activity.”

** 2002

May: The President calls for the disclosure and corporate governance principles contained in his 10-point plan for corporate responsibility to apply to Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac. (OMB Prompt Letter to OFHEO, 5/29/02)

** 2003

January: Freddie Mac announces it has to restate financial results for the previous three years.

February: The Office of Federal Housing Enterprise Oversight (OFHEO) releases a report explaining that “although investors perceive an implicit Federal guarantee of [GSE] obligations,” “the government has provided no explicit legal backing for them.” As a consequence, unexpected problems at a GSE could immediately spread into financial sectors beyond the housing market. (“Systemic Risk: Fannie Mae, Freddie Mac and the Role of OFHEO,” OFHEO Report, 2/4/03)

September: Fannie Mae discloses SEC investigation and acknowledges OFHEO’s review found earnings manipulations.

September: Treasury Secretary John Snow testifies before the House Financial Services Committee to recommend that Congress enact “legislation to create a new Federal agency to regulate and supervise the financial activities of our housing-related government sponsored enterprises” and set prudent and appropriate minimum capital adequacy requirements.

October: Fannie Mae discloses $1.2 billion accounting error.

November: Council of the Economic Advisers (CEA) Chairman Greg Mankiw explains that any “legislation to reform GSE regulation should empower the new regulator with sufficient strength and credibility to reduce systemic risk.” To reduce the potential for systemic instability, the regulator would have “broad authority to set both risk-based and minimum capital standards” and “receivership powers necessary to wind down the affairs of a troubled GSE.” (N. Gregory Mankiw, Remarks At The Conference Of State Bank Supervisors State Banking Summit And Leadership, 11/6/03)

** 2004

February: The President’s FY05 Budget again highlights the risk posed by the explosive growth of the GSEs and their low levels of required capital, and called for creation of a new, world-class regulator: “The Administration has determined that the safety and soundness regulators of the housing GSEs lack sufficient power and stature to meet their responsibilities, and therefore…should be replaced with a new strengthened regulator.” (2005 Budget Analytic Perspectives, pg. 83)

February: CEA Chairman Mankiw cautions Congress to “not take [the financial market's] strength for granted.” Again, the call from the Administration was to reduce this risk by “ensuring that the housing GSEs are overseen by an effective regulator.” (N. Gregory Mankiw, Op-Ed, “Keeping Fannie And Freddie’s House In Order,” Financial Times, 2/24/04)

June: Deputy Secretary of Treasury Samuel Bodman spotlights the risk posed by the GSEs and called for reform, saying “We do not have a world-class system of supervision of the housing government sponsored enterprises (GSEs), even though the importance of the housing financial system that the GSEs serve demands the best in supervision to ensure the long-term vitality of that system. Therefore, the Administration has called for a new, first class, regulatory supervisor for the three housing GSEs: Fannie Mae, Freddie Mac, and the Federal Home Loan Banking System.” (Samuel Bodman, House Financial Services Subcommittee on Oversight and Investigations Testimony, 6/16/04)

** 2005

April: Treasury Secretary John Snow repeats his call for GSE reform, saying “Events that have transpired since I testified before this Committee in 2003 reinforce concerns over the systemic risks posed by the GSEs and further highlight the need for real GSE reform to ensure that our housing finance system remains a strong and vibrant source of funding for expanding homeownership opportunities in America… Half-measures will only exacerbate the risks to our financial system.” (Secretary John W. Snow, “Testimony Before The U.S. House Financial Services Committee,” 4/13/05)

** 2007

July: Two Bear Stearns hedge funds invested in mortgage securities collapse.

August: President Bush emphatically calls on Congress to pass a reform package for Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac, saying “first things first when it comes to those two institutions. Congress needs to get them reformed, get them streamlined, get them focused, and then I will consider other options.” (President George W. Bush, Press Conference, The White House, 8/9/07)

September: RealtyTrac announces foreclosure filings up 243,000 in August – up 115 percent from the year before.

September: Single-family existing home sales decreases 7.5 percent from the previous month – the lowest level in nine years. Median sale price of existing homes fell six percent from the year before.

December: President Bush again warns Congress of the need to pass legislation reforming GSEs, saying “These institutions provide liquidity in the mortgage market that benefits millions of homeowners, and it is vital they operate safely and operate soundly. So I’ve called on Congress to pass legislation that strengthens independent regulation of the GSEs – and ensures they focus on their important housing mission. The GSE reform bill passed by the House earlier this year is a good start. But the Senate has not acted. And the United States Senate needs to pass this legislation soon.” (President George W. Bush, Discusses Housing, The White House, 12/6/07)

** 2008

January: Bank of America announces it will buy Countrywide.

January: Citigroup announces mortgage portfolio lost $18.1 billion in value.

February: Assistant Secretary David Nason reiterates the urgency of reforms, says “A new regulatory structure for the housing GSEs is essential if these entities are to continue to perform their public mission successfully.” (David Nason, Testimony On Reforming GSE Regulation, Senate Committee On Banking, Housing And Urban Affairs, 2/7/08)

March: Bear Stearns announces it will sell itself to JPMorgan Chase.

March: President Bush calls on Congress to take action and “move forward with reforms on Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac. They need to continue to modernize the FHA, as well as allow State housing agencies to issue tax-free bonds to homeowners to refinance their mortgages.” (President George W. Bush, Remarks To The Economic Club Of New York, New York, NY, 3/14/08)

April: President Bush urges Congress to pass the much needed legislation
and “modernize Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac. [There are] constructive things Congress can do that will encourage the housing market to correct quickly by … helping people stay in their homes.” (President George W. Bush, Meeting With Cabinet, the White House, 4/14/08)

May: President Bush issues several pleas to Congress to pass legislation reforming Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac before the situation deteriorates further.

“Americans are concerned about making their mortgage payments and keeping their homes. Yet Congress has failed to pass legislation I have repeatedly requested to modernize the Federal Housing Administration that will help more families stay in their homes, reform Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac to ensure they focus on their housing mission, and allow State housing agencies to issue tax-free bonds to refinance sub-prime loans.” (President George W. Bush, Radio Address, 5/3/08)

“[T]he government ought to be helping creditworthy people stay in their homes. And one way we can do that – and Congress is making progress on this – is the reform of Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac. That reform will come with a strong, independent regulator.” (President George W. Bush, Meeting With The Secretary Of The Treasury, the White House, 5/19/08)

“Congress needs to pass legislation to modernize the Federal Housing Administration, reform Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac to ensure they focus on their housing mission, and allow State housing agencies to issue tax-free bonds to refinance subprime loans.” (President George W. Bush, Radio Address, 5/31/08)

June: As foreclosure rates continued to rise in the first quarter, the President once again asks Congress to take the necessary measures to address this challenge, saying “we need to pass legislation to reform Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac.” (President George W. Bush, Remarks At Swearing In Ceremony For Secretary Of Housing And Urban Development, Washington, D.C., 6/6/08)

July: Congress heeds the President’s call for action and passes reform of Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac as it becomes clear that the institutions are failing.

In 2005– Senator John McCain partnered with three other Senate Republicans to reform the government’s involvement in lending.
Democrats blocked this reform, too.

It was Republicans in Congress who shut down the government and threatened the country with default.

You stupid fucking hack.

Barack Obama says Congress owns sequestration cuts | PolitiFact

Obama said that the sequester -- and the defense cuts that would result from it -- was not his proposition. "It is something that Congress has proposed," he said in the debate.

But it was Obama’s negotiating team that came up with the idea for defense cuts in 2011, though they were intended to prod Congress to come up with a better deal for reining in the deficit, not as an effort to make those cuts reality.

Meanwhile, members of both parties in Congress voted for the legislation that set up the possibility of sequestration. Obama’s position is that Congress should now act to avoid those across-the-board cuts.

Obama can’t rightly say the sequester isn’t his, but he did need cooperation from Congress to get to this point. We rate the statement Mostly False.


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Liberals are the scourge on human liberty. They are liars, and ignorant. Nothing more, nothing less.

Little pawns as they cheer loudly at the demise of capitalism and most of all white America.

 

[LadyGunSlinger]

Feds: Pastors not welcome at immigration camps | Fox News

e said churches are not even allowed bring soccer balls or play ping pong with the illegal immigrant children.

Pastor Coffin even asked if they could provide the children with toys, blankets and food. But the federal government’s response was the same – no donations allowed.

“We just wanted to go down there and have a presence because we care about people,” he said. “That’s all we wanted to do. For the church to be available sends a message that the church cares.”

Religious folks in San Antonio had a similar experience. One professional counselor at a camp run by BCFS, an organization previously known as Baptist Child and Family Services, said there were no clergy at all.


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[kaz]

For Republicans America is a platform for individual fulfillment. But here's the catch: the Individual is defined in the narrowest possible terms. Any notion of the "The Public Good" is seen as "Socialism" (socialism being anything the government does for the non-wealthy). The Free Market will fix New Orleans levees. The Free Market will effectively control the amount of derivative based risk Wall Street will take. The Free Market will get us off imported oil(rather than spending decades making terrorists stronger). The Free Market will keep our rivers clean. The Free Market will make healthcare more efficient. The Free Market won't bribe Washington in order to increase it's profit margin. We don't need to worry about "The Public Good", individual selfishness driven by short term profit is a utopian reflex.

But the world doesn't work that way. Selfishness harms society....tears it apart....destroys the world economy....spills millions of barrels of oil in the Gulf of Mexico.....tears a hole in the ozone...creates a garbage patch in the Pacific Ocean twice the size of Texas...melts the North Polar ice cap.....creates massive deficits by giving huge tax breaks to the wealthy....

But the Republicans celebrate this selfishness. It is their core value. For them greed is good.

Republicans eh ? Well where were all the democrats while all this has been going on for the last 60 years ?

I can think of many places they were, so talk about not giving a care as long as their bread was being buttered too or their tummy's were being tickled (LOL). There is no one party to blame, because one hides it hand while the others don't, but they are both involved in the problem.

Democrats and Republicans are not equivalent.

It was Republicans that allowed a deregulated Wall Street to destroy the world economy in 2008.

It was Republicans on the Supreme Court that voted to allow unlimited secret campaign contributions.

It was Republicans in Congress that voted against infrastructure spending that would have lowered unemployment.

It was Republicans in Congress who shut down the government and threatened the country with default.

LOL. You and Republicans did that together, Homey. Republicans and Democrats are like male and female dung beetles. No one else can tell you apart, but obviously you can tell each other apart...