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"In the 1970s, Justices William H. Rehnquist and Byron R. White said business corporations were 'creatures of the law,' capable of amassing wealth but due none of the rights of voters."Corporations are associations of citizens. What do you think they are, disembodied spirits or evil robots?Except for whether corporations are "creatures of law" or "associations of citizens?"Let's compare unions and corporations.
A union is a group of people united by a common purpose.
A orporation is a group of people united by a common purpose.
Yet you, in your own private reality, insist one group is evil and should have no say in the political process, while the other group is beneficent and should have a say in the political process.
That pretty much cover it?
Are unions corporations?
Then the same applies to unions."In the 1970s, Justices William H. Rehnquist and Byron R. White said business corporations were 'creatures of the law,' capable of amassing wealth but due none of the rights of voters."Corporations are associations of citizens. What do you think they are, disembodied spirits or evil robots?Except for whether corporations are "creatures of law" or "associations of citizens?"
Are unions corporations?
Corporate Free Speech | Corporate free-speech ruling speaks of shift in Supreme Court - Los Angeles Times
Anybody remember Archie and Edith?
"Everybody pulled his weight.
Didn't need no welfare state...
Those were the days!"
Archie Bunker, protagonist of the popular 1970s TV sitcom "All in the Family" and today's Tea Party movement seem to share a misconception of just how "conservative" the 1930s, 40s and 50s actually were.
Were those decades a time when hard-working Americans pulled themselves up by their own bootstraps?
"It's true that Americans worked hard during these years.
"But the bootstraps stuff is nonsense.
"The 30s through 50s were the time of the New Deal, low-cost loans from the Federal Housing Administration, the GI Bill, huge subsidies for defense contractors during the Cold War and other industries that employed millions of people, massive transfer of funding from cities to the burgeoning suburbs, federal projects like interstate highway construction and the space program, generous investment in public schools, record union membership, high tax rates for corporations and the wealthy, good job benefits, and Social Security, Medicare, and Medicaid, which ensured financial stability in old age and medical crises...
"On the evidence of history, calling today's Republican Party and their Tea Party supporters 'conservative' is as absurd as calling supporters of civil rights and racial justice 'reactionary' because they invoke the values of the Reconstruction Era."
Which Side Are You On? New Language for a New Political Reality | Common Dreams
Of course it does. So why does the left ignore such corruption? Is it because it benefits them personally and to hell with everybody else?Then the same applies to unions.
So perhaps you need to tell the unions to stop spending their members' dues on Democrat politicians and telling their members how to vote.
Because then, you know, you wouldn't be a flaming hypocrite.
wouldn't your point be power corrupts Dave?
That our government is out of control isn't really debatable anymore.
The real question is who is benefitting from it?
Perh usual I'll suggest that the problem isn't government but BAD government.
Of course it does. So why does the left ignore such corruption? Is it because it benefits them personally and to hell with everybody else?Then the same applies to unions.
So perhaps you need to tell the unions to stop spending their members' dues on Democrat politicians and telling their members how to vote.
Because then, you know, you wouldn't be a flaming hypocrite.
wouldn't your point be power corrupts Dave?
Ultimately, you have to decide what benefits people more.Of course it does. So why does the left ignore such corruption? Is it because it benefits them personally and to hell with everybody else?Then the same applies to unions.
So perhaps you need to tell the unions to stop spending their members' dues on Democrat politicians and telling their members how to vote.
Because then, you know, you wouldn't be a flaming hypocrite.
wouldn't your point be power corrupts Dave?
Ok, examples that come to mind are: HR800 , the employee free choice act, as well as it's HR1409 follow up, both rather orwellian in thier confliction with union doctrine, and self serving in many respects Dave
That, along with the chamber of commerce's penchant for soliciting what is no more than legal payola , from aliens at that, is well documented , and has hardly been ignored
So how is it partisanship fits your corruption stance? well, it appears you're saying the Rep's are openly for corporatism, while the Dem's are also , yet pretend to be for the people
Not a grand leap , but one i wish more would come to the conclusion of imho....
Don't they?Ultimately, you have to decide what benefits people more.
well that would insist choices to do so exist Dave
Clarence Thomas and Antonin Scalia come to my mind whenever the word "hypocrite" arises.Then the same applies to unions."In the 1970s, Justices William H. Rehnquist and Byron R. White said business corporations were 'creatures of the law,' capable of amassing wealth but due none of the rights of voters."Corporations are associations of citizens. What do you think they are, disembodied spirits or evil robots?
Corporate Free Speech | Corporate free-speech ruling speaks of shift in Supreme Court - Los Angeles Times
So perhaps you need to tell the unions to stop spending their members' dues on Democrat politicians and telling their members how to vote.
Because then, you know, you wouldn't be a flaming hypocrite.
Seems to be working out pretty well for Meredith and Michael.and we see how that's workin' out>
Our Government Is Corrupt Through and Through -- Where's the Outrage? | News & Politics | AlterNet
"A limited number of options (usually two) is given, while in reality there are more options.Anybody remember Archie and Edith?
"Everybody pulled his weight.
Didn't need no welfare state...
Those were the days!"
Archie Bunker, protagonist of the popular 1970s TV sitcom "All in the Family" and today's Tea Party movement seem to share a misconception of just how "conservative" the 1930s, 40s and 50s actually were.
Were those decades a time when hard-working Americans pulled themselves up by their own bootstraps?
"It's true that Americans worked hard during these years.
"But the bootstraps stuff is nonsense.
"The 30s through 50s were the time of the New Deal, low-cost loans from the Federal Housing Administration, the GI Bill, huge subsidies for defense contractors during the Cold War and other industries that employed millions of people, massive transfer of funding from cities to the burgeoning suburbs, federal projects like interstate highway construction and the space program, generous investment in public schools, record union membership, high tax rates for corporations and the wealthy, good job benefits, and Social Security, Medicare, and Medicaid, which ensured financial stability in old age and medical crises...
"On the evidence of history, calling today's Republican Party and their Tea Party supporters 'conservative' is as absurd as calling supporters of civil rights and racial justice 'reactionary' because they invoke the values of the Reconstruction Era."
Which Side Are You On? New Language for a New Political Reality | Common Dreams
false dilemma
One percent of us seem to benefit very well, thank you very much, regardless of which party controls government:That our government is out of control isn't really debatable anymore.
The real question is who is benefitting from it?
Perh usual I'll suggest that the problem isn't government but BAD government.
Which five percent of Americans doubled its share of returns to wealth in less than one generation?That our government is out of control isn't really debatable anymore.
The real question is who is benefitting from it?
Perh usual I'll suggest that the problem isn't government but BAD government.
Who got stimulus checks? Who's getting Obamacare waivers?
That's who benefits currently. Democrat special-interest groups.
Oooh, there's that famous leftist homophobia.Clarence Thomas and Antonin Scalia come to my mind whenever the word "hypocrite" arises.Then the same applies to unions."In the 1970s, Justices William H. Rehnquist and Byron R. White said business corporations were 'creatures of the law,' capable of amassing wealth but due none of the rights of voters."
Corporate Free Speech | Corporate free-speech ruling speaks of shift in Supreme Court - Los Angeles Times
So perhaps you need to tell the unions to stop spending their members' dues on Democrat politicians and telling their members how to vote.
Because then, you know, you wouldn't be a flaming hypocrite.
Especially when it's offered by a "proud" conservative.
Are you especially proud of Clarence and Antonin attending fundraisers for the American Spectator? How about the two SCOTUS Justices mapping out strategy and fundraising for Charles and David Koch?
Think any of those lucrative sidelines might have influenced their rejection of Reinquist's and White's "corporations are creatures of law" in favor of the current majority's description of corps as "associations of citizens"?
All power corrupts and its potential for corruption is determined by the amount of dollars it has at its disposal. Since for-profit corporations like those found on Wall Street have infinitely more money than non-profit unions, your view would be less hypocritical if you called for removing all corporate financing from US elections.
Because then, you know, you wouldn't be a flaming faggot for Wall Street.
Corporate Free Speech | Corporate free-speech ruling speaks of shift in Supreme Court - Los Angeles Times
Which five percent of Americans doubled its share of returns to wealth in less than one generation?That our government is out of control isn't really debatable anymore.
The real question is who is benefitting from it?
Perh usual I'll suggest that the problem isn't government but BAD government.
Who got stimulus checks? Who's getting Obamacare waivers?
That's who benefits currently. Democrat special-interest groups.
Why do "Proud Conservatives" suck up to private wealth?
Something in their DNA?
Michael Hudson: Obama's Greatest Betrayal
