Who's best at leading the country, democrats or republicans....

[Mad Scientist]

Yes.

 

[tigerred59]

There's already a documentary about it....PBS, inside the meltdown.....talks all about past and future policies that took our economy to the brink in the early days of our own great depression

I'll look it up. I have yet to see a documentary on the Meltdown that wasn't skewed in one way or the other, but I'm always hopeful.
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Trust me, its informative, unbias and accurate in every sense and it points blame where blame is due.

Those Evil Banks?
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No, not evil banks...greedy people that work for banks!!

You mean run/own the banks.

Yes, yes yes!!

 

[Wildman]

considering the past 7 years, i do not think it is that hard to figger out, demorats along with the help of RINOS have nearly destroyed what was once a really great country.

 

[Harry Dresden]

Just about all the participants on these threads kinda look down on Tiggered, but guys, I have a real debate purposed here and I want serious discussion.

Who has a better track record of bringing this country forward, Dem's or Rep's?

Forget about Obama and even Bush, lets go with records of accomplishments and let the chips fall were they may, shall we......

On your march, get set, lets go....and I promise to come correct, without cursing and being ghetto, lets stick with the facts and see how it plays out and please be honest and forthright...fantasy has no place here......

last century i would give the democrats the edge.....this century they both suck pretty bad....and under EVERY president, we have had some things affecting people positively as well as negatively........

 

[Mac1958]

Just about all the participants on these threads kinda look down on Tiggered, but guys, I have a real debate purposed here and I want serious discussion.

Who has a better track record of bringing this country forward, Dem's or Rep's?

Forget about Obama and even Bush, lets go with records of accomplishments and let the chips fall were they may, shall we......

On your march, get set, lets go....and I promise to come correct, without cursing and being ghetto, lets stick with the facts and see how it plays out and please be honest and forthright...fantasy has no place here......

last century i would give the democrats the edge.....this century they both suck pretty bad....and under EVERY president, we have had some things affecting people positively as well as negatively........

Hey, you're supposed to point the finger at one party and scream "it's all THEIR fault, ALL of it!"

What the hell is wrong with you?


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[Harry Dresden]

Just about all the participants on these threads kinda look down on Tiggered, but guys, I have a real debate purposed here and I want serious discussion.

Who has a better track record of bringing this country forward, Dem's or Rep's?

Forget about Obama and even Bush, lets go with records of accomplishments and let the chips fall were they may, shall we......

On your march, get set, lets go....and I promise to come correct, without cursing and being ghetto, lets stick with the facts and see how it plays out and please be honest and forthright...fantasy has no place here......

last century i would give the democrats the edge.....this century they both suck pretty bad....and under EVERY president, we have had some things affecting people positively as well as negatively........

Hey, you're supposed to point the finger at one party and scream "it's all THEIR fault, ALL of it!"

What the hell is wrong with you?


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i dont have the dreaded dean or edgetho syndrome.....

 

[Mac1958]

Just about all the participants on these threads kinda look down on Tiggered, but guys, I have a real debate purposed here and I want serious discussion.

Who has a better track record of bringing this country forward, Dem's or Rep's?

Forget about Obama and even Bush, lets go with records of accomplishments and let the chips fall were they may, shall we......

On your march, get set, lets go....and I promise to come correct, without cursing and being ghetto, lets stick with the facts and see how it plays out and please be honest and forthright...fantasy has no place here......

last century i would give the democrats the edge.....this century they both suck pretty bad....and under EVERY president, we have had some things affecting people positively as well as negatively........

Hey, you're supposed to point the finger at one party and scream "it's all THEIR fault, ALL of it!"

What the hell is wrong with you?


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i dont have the dreaded dean or edgetho syndrome.....

As well as a few dozen others here...
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[tigerred59]

Just about all the participants on these threads kinda look down on Tiggered, but guys, I have a real debate purposed here and I want serious discussion.

Who has a better track record of bringing this country forward, Dem's or Rep's?

Forget about Obama and even Bush, lets go with records of accomplishments and let the chips fall were they may, shall we......

On your march, get set, lets go....and I promise to come correct, without cursing and being ghetto, lets stick with the facts and see how it plays out and please be honest and forthright...fantasy has no place here......

last century i would give the democrats the edge.....this century they both suck pretty bad....and under EVERY president, we have had some things affecting people positively as well as negatively........

I'd say from what I've seen thus far, the democrats got a pretty good record, this century too....face it, the GOP just sucks, its just fact, I'm sorry

 

[Sun Devil 92]

Who has a better track record of bringing this country forward, Dem's or Rep's?

There's really no way to answer that honestly, since there are two unknowable variables in the equation.

First would be the definition of "bringing this country forward", as I guarantee you the two sides of the ideological spectrum would disagree wildly on that.

Second, it could be very reasonably argued that the actions and term of a current President and/or Congress aren't fully realized right away. It could be that a good or a bad economy, for example, could be traced to one or two or three administrations earlier.

It's a good question for a standard silly partisan slap fight, but impossible for an honest person to answer.
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Not if you deal with facts, silly rabbit!!

Yeah, both sides say that.
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You can not argue or dispute facts and both side have them, but what side triumphs from it? Democrats do.

That is beyond funny.

 

[tigerred59]

Who has a better track record of bringing this country forward, Dem's or Rep's?

There's really no way to answer that honestly, since there are two unknowable variables in the equation.

First would be the definition of "bringing this country forward", as I guarantee you the two sides of the ideological spectrum would disagree wildly on that.

Second, it could be very reasonably argued that the actions and term of a current President and/or Congress aren't fully realized right away. It could be that a good or a bad economy, for example, could be traced to one or two or three administrations earlier.

It's a good question for a standard silly partisan slap fight, but impossible for an honest person to answer.
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Not if you deal with facts, silly rabbit!!

Yeah, both sides say that.
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You can not argue or dispute facts and both side have them, but what side triumphs from it? Democrats do.

That is beyond funny.

When faced with facts, I'd laugh too....ha ha ha ha ha

 

[Sun Devil 92]

There's really no way to answer that honestly, since there are two unknowable variables in the equation.

First would be the definition of "bringing this country forward", as I guarantee you the two sides of the ideological spectrum would disagree wildly on that.

Second, it could be very reasonably argued that the actions and term of a current President and/or Congress aren't fully realized right away. It could be that a good or a bad economy, for example, could be traced to one or two or three administrations earlier.

It's a good question for a standard silly partisan slap fight, but impossible for an honest person to answer.
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Not if you deal with facts, silly rabbit!!

Yeah, both sides say that.
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You can not argue or dispute facts and both side have them, but what side triumphs from it? Democrats do.

That is beyond funny.

When faced with facts, I'd laugh too....ha ha ha ha ha

What you call facts, most of us call used toilet paper.....

Laughs on you.

 

[TheGreatGatsby]

Leading the country where? Down the tubes? I think both parties are sufficiently good at that.

 

[candycorn]

His allowing the market to dictate economic policies for the country led to the failure of it. As did Bush in 2007.

Bush didn't control the two biggest culprits, Fanny Mae and Freddie Mac. Barney Frank lied publicly that things were going well, he had to have known better. Nor was Bush the one pressuring banks to make high risk loans to get lower income folks into their own homes.

You incessant bleating about how fucked up Republicans are and complete blindness to anything Democrats screw up isn't going to accomplish anything except raise your blood pressure.

Lets get real for a minute, long before the market started effin with these mortgages, the first time homeowners deal was a win win for everybody and you know this. It wasn't until the banks began trying to figure out a way to maximize profits (thanks to deregulations, ie Bush) that all hell broke lose in the lending market and anybody and everybody was getting into the homeowners market. Also understand that it wasn't just the low income that caused banks to fail, it was much much more involved in this and PBS back in the day, did an extensive review of this story, I suggest you view it. Its called "Inside the Meltdown"

No, I don't know that. It was/is a mistake to take on more than you can afford. Bankers played fast and loose and home flipping was a national sport, but they were taking advantage of the system demanded by government. That isn't a free market.

Demanded by the government? Can you quote a government official demanding the banks lend more or describe exactly how the government "demanded" the banks lend more money?

 

[Iceweasel]

His allowing the market to dictate economic policies for the country led to the failure of it. As did Bush in 2007.

Bush didn't control the two biggest culprits, Fanny Mae and Freddie Mac. Barney Frank lied publicly that things were going well, he had to have known better. Nor was Bush the one pressuring banks to make high risk loans to get lower income folks into their own homes.

You incessant bleating about how fucked up Republicans are and complete blindness to anything Democrats screw up isn't going to accomplish anything except raise your blood pressure.

Lets get real for a minute, long before the market started effin with these mortgages, the first time homeowners deal was a win win for everybody and you know this. It wasn't until the banks began trying to figure out a way to maximize profits (thanks to deregulations, ie Bush) that all hell broke lose in the lending market and anybody and everybody was getting into the homeowners market. Also understand that it wasn't just the low income that caused banks to fail, it was much much more involved in this and PBS back in the day, did an extensive review of this story, I suggest you view it. Its called "Inside the Meltdown"

No, I don't know that. It was/is a mistake to take on more than you can afford. Bankers played fast and loose and home flipping was a national sport, but they were taking advantage of the system demanded by government. That isn't a free market.

Demanded by the government? Can you quote a government official demanding the banks lend more or describe exactly how the government "demanded" the banks lend more money?

That was already mentioned. Read the posts.

 

[AvgGuyIA]

Just about all the participants on these threads kinda look down on Tiggered, but guys, I have a real debate purposed here and I want serious discussion.

Who has a better track record of bringing this country forward, Dem's or Rep's?

Forget about Obama and even Bush, lets go with records of accomplishments and let the chips fall were they may, shall we......

On your march, get set, lets go....and I promise to come correct, without cursing and being ghetto, lets stick with the facts and see how it plays out and please be honest and forthright...fantasy has no place here......

Define forward. Obama and the progressives sent race relations back 60 years. This same regime spent 10 Trillion dollars we don't have.

 

[AvgGuyIA]

The reality is;

No political party advances the economy or the country. Americans do.

the more freedom we have (less government) the better we perform. So claiming one party saved the day is bullshit since they all have had a hand in creating the problem in the first place.

I have always been curious, and please be specific....just what does the government do that stops progress in this country. We all experienced the Bush years of deregulations and what it brought to the nations and world economy, please what do they do?

This thread is a waste of time and effort. You're not looking for honest debate. You think the Democrats are the best at leading this country and nothing anyone can say will change your mind. Bush didn't destroy the economy, it was Democrats insisting that people who don't have a job qualify for loans they can't possibly afford.

 

[candycorn]

His allowing the market to dictate economic policies for the country led to the failure of it. As did Bush in 2007.

Bush didn't control the two biggest culprits, Fanny Mae and Freddie Mac. Barney Frank lied publicly that things were going well, he had to have known better. Nor was Bush the one pressuring banks to make high risk loans to get lower income folks into their own homes.

You incessant bleating about how fucked up Republicans are and complete blindness to anything Democrats screw up isn't going to accomplish anything except raise your blood pressure.

Lets get real for a minute, long before the market started effin with these mortgages, the first time homeowners deal was a win win for everybody and you know this. It wasn't until the banks began trying to figure out a way to maximize profits (thanks to deregulations, ie Bush) that all hell broke lose in the lending market and anybody and everybody was getting into the homeowners market. Also understand that it wasn't just the low income that caused banks to fail, it was much much more involved in this and PBS back in the day, did an extensive review of this story, I suggest you view it. Its called "Inside the Meltdown"

No, I don't know that. It was/is a mistake to take on more than you can afford. Bankers played fast and loose and home flipping was a national sport, but they were taking advantage of the system demanded by government. That isn't a free market.

Demanded by the government? Can you quote a government official demanding the banks lend more or describe exactly how the government "demanded" the banks lend more money?

That was already mentioned. Read the posts.

Translation: Never happened.

 

[Iceweasel]

Bush didn't control the two biggest culprits, Fanny Mae and Freddie Mac. Barney Frank lied publicly that things were going well, he had to have known better. Nor was Bush the one pressuring banks to make high risk loans to get lower income folks into their own homes.

You incessant bleating about how fucked up Republicans are and complete blindness to anything Democrats screw up isn't going to accomplish anything except raise your blood pressure.

Lets get real for a minute, long before the market started effin with these mortgages, the first time homeowners deal was a win win for everybody and you know this. It wasn't until the banks began trying to figure out a way to maximize profits (thanks to deregulations, ie Bush) that all hell broke lose in the lending market and anybody and everybody was getting into the homeowners market. Also understand that it wasn't just the low income that caused banks to fail, it was much much more involved in this and PBS back in the day, did an extensive review of this story, I suggest you view it. Its called "Inside the Meltdown"

No, I don't know that. It was/is a mistake to take on more than you can afford. Bankers played fast and loose and home flipping was a national sport, but they were taking advantage of the system demanded by government. That isn't a free market.

Demanded by the government? Can you quote a government official demanding the banks lend more or describe exactly how the government "demanded" the banks lend more money?

That was already mentioned. Read the posts.

Translation: Never happened.

...to an idiot like you.

 

[candycorn]

Lets get real for a minute, long before the market started effin with these mortgages, the first time homeowners deal was a win win for everybody and you know this. It wasn't until the banks began trying to figure out a way to maximize profits (thanks to deregulations, ie Bush) that all hell broke lose in the lending market and anybody and everybody was getting into the homeowners market. Also understand that it wasn't just the low income that caused banks to fail, it was much much more involved in this and PBS back in the day, did an extensive review of this story, I suggest you view it. Its called "Inside the Meltdown"

No, I don't know that. It was/is a mistake to take on more than you can afford. Bankers played fast and loose and home flipping was a national sport, but they were taking advantage of the system demanded by government. That isn't a free market.

Demanded by the government? Can you quote a government official demanding the banks lend more or describe exactly how the government "demanded" the banks lend more money?

That was already mentioned. Read the posts.

Translation: Never happened.

...to an idiot like you.

I see.

The government can't "demand" the banks lend more money. Otherwise, Obama would have ordered it about 0.2 seconds after he came into office.

That you cannot back up your fraudulent claim is your problem beeotch.

 

[Iceweasel]

No, I don't know that. It was/is a mistake to take on more than you can afford. Bankers played fast and loose and home flipping was a national sport, but they were taking advantage of the system demanded by government. That isn't a free market.

Demanded by the government? Can you quote a government official demanding the banks lend more or describe exactly how the government "demanded" the banks lend more money?

That was already mentioned. Read the posts.

Translation: Never happened.

...to an idiot like you.

I see.

The government can't "demand" the banks lend more money. Otherwise, Obama would have ordered it about 0.2 seconds after he came into office.

That you cannot back up your fraudulent claim is your problem beeotch.

You aren't my problem, retard. I mentioned Fanny and Freddie, you are still clueless a decade later. Go talk to your guardian about what the grownups on the computer said.