Who's the conspiracy theorist?

[wihosa]

It is freaking impossible for a conspiracy to blow up the symbol of capitalism to have been authorized through three political administrations. The tin foil hats are careful not to implicate sleaze bag Clinton but he would have been at the center of the criminal conspiracy. The WTC was attacked the first time during the Clinton administration. Why didn't the conspiracy succeed back then? The terrorists tried conventional explosives instead of planes at time and the sleaze bag in the WH came out from under the desk with Monica long enough to call it a "foolish act by foolish people" instead of taking it seriously. The ironic thing is that Clinton was busy bombing a defenseless country in Europe while the 9-11 terrorists were attending flight school in the US.

So, like many of the defenders of the official conspiracy theory you are mostly concerned with the fact that if it wasn't all cooked up in a cave in Afghanistan then GW Bush might be implicated.

For the record it is possible that Bush was duped like so many others.

bahahahahaha!

Got a point or are you just going to continue to burp?

 

[daws101]

Theory is part of the scientific method. It is an attempt to explain the known facts. Since the evidence was not ever tested in a court of law a theory cannot be formed. I have been pointing out what appear to be contradictions in the official conspiracy theory, like for instance a forty seven story modern steel framed high rise building completely collapsing to the ground in seconds, exactly like controlled demolition and its inconsistency with what would be expected of a fire damaged building.

Go on and keep up with your ridicule, I will not be deterred and your position will not be bolstered.

Why would I want to deter you? You're the one sinking your own position by contradicting facts. For example, there are pictures of plane wreckage at the Pentagon. Tell us how it got there. You won't. This is what destroys any credibility you had sonny.

Again...
4 planes missing
4 plane crashes
4 plane hijackings
4 groups of passengers never heard from again.

No ambiguity there except between your ears.

Please dont stop posting. Its enjoyable.

and none of it explains the collapse especially wtc 7 and none of it rules out he use of explosives of prior knowledge in the events of 9/11

only to you, of all the towers 7 is the simplest and the most meaningless.
there is no evidence of explosive use, no matter how much you whine about it.
as to prior knowledge you have only the assumptive conjecture of a unproved premise.no facts.

 

[daws101]

So, like many of the defenders of the official conspiracy theory you are mostly concerned with the fact that if it wasn't all cooked up in a cave in Afghanistan then GW Bush might be implicated.

For the record it is possible that Bush was duped like so many others.

bahahahahaha!

Got a point or are you just going to continue to burp?

that what's known as derisive laughter it is the point.

 

[SAYIT]

Yeah. You've never advanced a conspiracy theory. Noooooo. Not you wihosa...

Proof of thermite? Angled cuts just like controlled demolition? The Deception? "Paid to refute"? The deception was well planned?

Right. I can see how you claim you've never advanced a conspiracy theory...

Most of the 9/11 CTs here seem to be backtracking lately, now claiming they have proffered no CTs but rather have just rejected the official account. The effort is so widespread I suspect some collusion among them. Hey ... could it be a conspiracy?

Maybe they realize that advancing theories without a way to test them is not very scientific.

Many of this board's CTs have been at it for years and backtracking is backtracking. You can't put your little CT worms back in the can so stiffen your pecker and stand behind your silly CT.

 

[wihosa]

Most of the 9/11 CTs here seem to be backtracking lately, now claiming they have proffered no CTs but rather have just rejected the official account. The effort is so widespread I suspect some collusion among them. Hey ... could it be a conspiracy?

When you ask someone what they "think" happened and they hesitate to tell you what they "think" happened, they are disqualified from being taken seriously.

You walk into your house and see your TV missing, broken glass on the floor and a window that is broken, you can draw the conclusion that someone broke into your house through the window and took your TV.

That is exactly the same circumstance that we have in 9/11. We have 4 planes missing, 4 plane crashes, four hijackings, and 4 groups of passengers who were never heard from again. When someone wants to inject some sort of "unknown" into these facts, they are to be ridiculed because they are being ridiculous.

Theory is part of the scientific method. It is an attempt to explain the known facts. Since the evidence was not ever tested in a court of law a theory cannot be formed. I have been pointing out what appear to be contradictions in the official conspiracy theory, like for instance a forty seven story modern steel framed high rise building completely collapsing to the ground in seconds, exactly like controlled demolition and its inconsistency with what would be expected of a fire damaged building.

Go on and keep up with your ridicule, I will not be deterred and your position will not be bolstered.

Why would I want to deter you? You're the one sinking your own position by contradicting facts. For example, there are pictures of plane wreckage at the Pentagon. Tell us how it got there. You won't. This is what destroys any credibility you had sonny.

Again...
4 planes missing
4 plane crashes
4 plane hijackings
4 groups of passengers never heard from again.

No ambiguity there except between your ears.

Please dont stop posting. Its enjoyable.

Again without facts I can't form a theory but are you denying that phony evidence could have been planted? It would have been impossible? And why would you accept at face value any evidence without it being tested in a court of law, especially when the crime is mass murder?

 

[wihosa]

bahahahahaha!

Got a point or are you just going to continue to burp?

that what's known as derisive laughter it is the point.

Oh, we'll aren't you clever.

 

[wihosa]

Most of the 9/11 CTs here seem to be backtracking lately, now claiming they have proffered no CTs but rather have just rejected the official account. The effort is so widespread I suspect some collusion among them. Hey ... could it be a conspiracy?

Maybe they realize that advancing theories without a way to test them is not very scientific.

Many of this board's CTs have been at it for years and backtracking is backtracking. You can't put your little CT worms back in the can so stiffen your pecker and stand behind your silly CT.

As I pointed out, you are the one with the conspiracy theory to defend.

 

[SAYIT]

Theory is part of the scientific method. It is an attempt to explain the known facts. Since the evidence was not ever tested in a court of law a theory cannot be formed. I have been pointing out what appear to be contradictions in the official conspiracy theory, like for instance a forty seven story modern steel framed high rise building completely collapsing to the ground in seconds, exactly like controlled demolition and its inconsistency with what would be expected of a fire damaged building.

Go on and keep up with your ridicule, I will not be deterred and your position will not be bolstered.

Why would I want to deter you? You're the one sinking your own position by contradicting facts. For example, there are pictures of plane wreckage at the Pentagon. Tell us how it got there. You won't. This is what destroys any credibility you had sonny.

Again...
4 planes missing
4 plane crashes
4 plane hijackings
4 groups of passengers never heard from again.

No ambiguity there except between your ears.

Please dont stop posting. Its enjoyable.

Again without facts I can't form a theory but are you denying that phony evidence could have been planted? It would have been impossible? And why would you accept at face value any evidence without it being tested in a court of law, especially when the crime is mass murder?

He posted the facts but you have the right to close your eyes and your ears and you have formed a controlled demo (conspiracy) theory, remember?
4 planes missing
4 plane crashes
4 plane hijackings
4 groups of passengers never heard from again.

 

[daws101]

And I particularly enjoy the defenders of the official conspiracy theory who are so gullible that they can't tell the difference between controlled demolition and fire damage.

that would be you guys.... if it were a CD, why the planes?
there is no evidence of explosives or thermite or any other exotic substances.
there were no video or audio capture of blast waves a sure sign of a CD.
there was no forensic evidence of their use either.
if you shit heads are claiming cover up then you must prove WHO ,what HOW AND WHY.
in 11 years you've done none of those.

We know what the official conspiracy theory is, why repeat it?
There is evidence of thermite in every sample of the 911 dust.
Have you even bothered to look at building seven collapsing? Or the building which raged in fire for two days in Spain in 2006 ( I think, might have the wrong year) finally resulting in a partial collapse?
Again, it would only be speculation without established facts to try to answer WHO, HOW or WHY.
This is after all a mass murder and there is no statute of limitations on murder so the fact that no criminal investigation has been done for 11 years is immaterial.

I've read everything you've posted many many times before you ever posted it here.. you're just regurgitating the same false info that every other twoofer has posted..

 

[daws101]

Got a point or are you just going to continue to burp?

that what's known as derisive laughter it is the point.

Oh, we'll aren't you clever.

I could be dead and be more clever then you.. I've found that guys like you are kinda slow and easily lead if you weren't then you wouldn't be twoofers,

 

[SAYIT]

you have calmed many times you dont believe the NIST theory and tend to sort of favor the popular mechanics version but dont really offer any clear alternative theory

You've got the wrong guy.

oh so now you support the NIST theory..good I will hold you to that

Stiil got the wrong guy. Instead of pretending you actually know something, why not ask me again?

 

[SAYIT]

Maybe they realize that advancing theories without a way to test them is not very scientific.

Many of this board's CTs have been at it for years and backtracking is backtracking. You can't put your little CT worms back in the can so stiffen your pecker and stand behind your silly CT.

As I pointed out, you are the one with the conspiracy theory to defend.

Uh-huh, and not the CT loon who said this:
"And I particularly enjoy the defenders of the official conspiracy theory who are so gullible that they can't tell the difference between controlled demolition and fire damage."

 

[daws101]

Maybe they realize that advancing theories without a way to test them is not very scientific.

Many of this board's CTs have been at it for years and backtracking is backtracking. You can't put your little CT worms back in the can so stiffen your pecker and stand behind your silly CT.

As I pointed out, you are the one with the conspiracy theory to defend.

that's false and it's been tried before. the fact is the onus is on you to disprove it's validity.
since your theory is based on a false premise before you can even begin to disprove the official story you must first prove you're conjecture has merit and is verifiable.
as yet you done none of those things.

 

[eots]

You've got the wrong guy.

oh so now you support the NIST theory..good I will hold you to that

Stiil got the wrong guy. Instead of pretending you actually know something, why not ask me again?

so you support the NIST collapse theory ??

 

[candycorn]

Theory is part of the scientific method. It is an attempt to explain the known facts. Since the evidence was not ever tested in a court of law a theory cannot be formed. I have been pointing out what appear to be contradictions in the official conspiracy theory, like for instance a forty seven story modern steel framed high rise building completely collapsing to the ground in seconds, exactly like controlled demolition and its inconsistency with what would be expected of a fire damaged building.

Go on and keep up with your ridicule, I will not be deterred and your position will not be bolstered.

Why would I want to deter you? You're the one sinking your own position by contradicting facts. For example, there are pictures of plane wreckage at the Pentagon. Tell us how it got there. You won't. This is what destroys any credibility you had sonny.

Again...
4 planes missing
4 plane crashes
4 plane hijackings
4 groups of passengers never heard from again.

No ambiguity there except between your ears.

Please dont stop posting. Its enjoyable.

Again without facts I can't form a theory but are you denying that phony evidence could have been planted? It would have been impossible? And why would you accept at face value any evidence without it being tested in a court of law, especially when the crime is mass murder?

All of the above are facts...

4 planes missing
4 plane crashes
4 plane hijackings
4 groups of passengers never heard from again.

Which of that is not a fact?

Yes it would have been impossible to have the wreckage planted at the Pentagon with nobody seeing it. Nobody reported seeing anyone plant wreckage. Much less in so many different places in broad daylight.

Then there are the matters of the five light poles. Nobody saw them get planted either.

Then there is the matter of the enormous generator being knocked off of it's moorings and having an airplane engine shaped dent in it's corner.

Then there is the matter of the eye witnesses--that saw the plane and didn't see your phantom airplane wreckage planters.

There there is the matter of the air traffic controllers tracking it into Pentagon airspace but not leaving the airspace.

Again, this is what I love; you climb out on the limb and the only way off is to deny facts exist.

 

[candycorn]

that what's known as derisive laughter it is the point.

Oh, we'll aren't you clever.

I could be dead and be more clever then you.. I've found that guys like you are kinda slow and easily lead if you weren't then you wouldn't be twoofers,

He's as about a sharp as an eraser.

 

[SAYIT]

oh so now you support the NIST theory..good I will hold you to that

Stiil got the wrong guy. Instead of pretending you actually know something, why not ask me again?

so you support the NIST collapse theory ??

Support it? That's a strange way to put it but I'll answer anyway because you bore me, Princess.
Its blems notwithstanding, given what I saw on 9/11 (on TV) the NIST findings are still by far the best explanation of what happened.
What I find absurd are the "findings" of 9/11 CT "experts" like Alex Jones whose self-serving silliness seems an excuse to "earn a living" from gullible not-too-bright CT loons.

 

[SFC Ollie]

Of its 3,000 acres, 175 were secured on September 11, 2001, to receive the remains of the World Trade Center. Those acres became a New York Police Department crime scene while the other fields were left to return to a natural state.

The operation at Fresh Kills had three objectives: to find human remains, personal effects, and any evidence of the terrorist attack such as a highjacker’s box cutter, cell phones from the planes, and the black boxes. The recovery operation evolved from simple hand-sorting into an elaborate machine-sifting and sorting process. All the material was carefully sorted to find objects down to one-quarter of an inch in size.

The recovery operation at the Fresh Kills facility was under the management of Federal Bureau of Investigation Special Agent Richard Marx, New York Police Department Inspector James Luongo, and New York Police Department Lieutenant Bruce Bovino.

Recovery — Fresh Kills


RECOVERY
On the night of September
12, 2001
the Fresh Kills
Landfill on Staten Island
was designated a crime
scene and trucks began
arriving from Ground Zero
with steel and
crushed
debris that was
once
the World Trade Center.
Over the next ten months,
an operation to recover
human remains, personal
effects and the objects
of everyday life from 1.8
million tons of material was
undertaken by the New
York Police Department,
an FBI evidence recovery
team, twenty-five state
and federal agencies, and
fourteen private contractors.
The story of this operation
unfolds in many rare images
and compelling objects that
are now preserved for history.
Thousands of detectives,
agents, and forensic evidence
specialists worked around
the clock to recover rem-
nants of the lives lost
at the World Trade Center.
Over 1.7 million hours were
spent working at the landfill.
The exhibition photographs,
taken over several months,
document the immense
task

http://www.nysm.nysed.gov/exhibits/longterm/documents/recovery.pdf



But remember, there was no investigation.......

 

[eots]

Stiil got the wrong guy. Instead of pretending you actually know something, why not ask me again?

so you support the NIST collapse theory ??

Support it? That's a strange way to put it but I'll answer anyway because you bore me, Princess.

Its blems notwithstanding,

and they would be what ?

given what I saw on 9/11 (on TV) the NIST findings are still by far the best explanation of what happened.
What I find absurd are the "findings" of 9/11 CT "experts" like Alex Jones whose self-serving silliness seems an excuse to "earn a living" from gullible not-too-bright CT loons.

WHAT ABOUT THESE FELLOWS ?


Dwain Deets, MS Physics, MS Eng – Former Director, Aerospace Projects, NASA Dryden Flight Research Center. Before this appointment, he served as Director, Research Engineering Division at Dryden. Recipient of the NASA Exceptional Service Award and the Presidential Meritorious Rank Award in the Senior Executive Service (1988). Selected presenter of the Wright Brothers Lectureship in Aeronautics, a distinguished speaking engagement sponsored by the American Institute of Aeronautics and Astronautics (AIAA) (1986). Included in "Who's Who in Science and Engineering" 1993 - 2000. Former Chairman of the Aerospace Control and Guidance Systems Committee of the Society of Automotive Engineers. Former Member, AIAA Committee on Society and Aerospace Technology. 37 year NASA career.
Statement in support of Architects and Engineers petition:

"The many visual images (massive structural members being hurled horizontally, huge pyroclastic clouds, etc.) leave no doubt in my mind explosives were involved [in the destruction of the World Trade Center]." World Trade Center Building 7 Demolished on 9/11? | AE911Truth


Signatory: Petition requesting a reinvestigation of 9/11, signed by more than 1,500 Architects and Engineers:

Patriots Question 9/11 - Responsible Criticism of the 9/11 Commission Report

 

[eots]

of its 3,000 acres, 175 were secured on september 11, 2001, to receive the remains of the world trade center. Those acres became a new york police department crime scene while the other fields were left to return to a natural state.

The operation at fresh kills had three objectives: To find human remains, personal effects, and any evidence of the terrorist attack such as a highjacker’s box cutter, cell phones from the planes, and the black boxes. The recovery operation evolved from simple hand-sorting into an elaborate machine-sifting and sorting process. All the material was carefully sorted to find objects down to one-quarter of an inch in size.

The recovery operation at the fresh kills facility was under the management of federal bureau of investigation special agent richard marx, new york police department inspector james luongo, and new york police department lieutenant bruce bovino.

recovery — fresh kills


recovery
on the night of september
12, 2001
the fresh kills
landfill on staten island
was designated a crime
scene and trucks began
arriving from ground zero
with steel and
crushed
debris that was
once
the world trade center.
Over the next ten months,
an operation to recover
human remains, personal
effects and the objects
of everyday life from 1.8
million tons of material was
undertaken by the new
york police department,
an fbi evidence recovery
team, twenty-five state
and federal agencies, and
fourteen private contractors.
The story of this operation
unfolds in many rare images
and compelling objects that
are now preserved for history.
Thousands of detectives,
agents, and forensic evidence
specialists worked around
the clock to recover rem-
nants of the lives lost
at the world trade center.
Over 1.7 million hours were
spent working at the landfill.
The exhibition photographs,
taken over several months,
document the immense
task

http://www.nysm.nysed.gov/exhibits/longterm/documents/recovery.pdf



but remember, there was no investigation.......

no there was not a proper investigation.. shifting through debris for trinkets is hardly relevant are you trying to imply they would of found visible evidence of explosives they where not even looking for ???...is that the irrational thought you trying to imply???