Why anti gun people are so angry.....

[Brain357]

No a lot of them were drugged or drunk. Many are not yet adults. Many are taken advantage of by someone they know. But no all women are not defenseless.

Well..since most states require you to be 21 to own and carry a gun....they would all be adults.....and at 17, they can carry a rifle and pistol in a combat zone for their country...but they can't carry a gun to stop a rape......really?

No they can carry a gun if they choose obviously. But very few rapes are defendable with a gun.

That is not true. According to statistics, 200,000 women have used guns to defend themselves from rape, and some didn't even have to fire a shot, just brandishing the weapon was enough to scare off the perpetrator. More dishonesty from the brainless.

Not statistics, a bad survey. Statics show there are about 80,000 rapes a year. Most of which aren't defendable with a gun.

80,000 rapes per year. Those 200,000 women would not be included in those stats because they were NOT raped. More lies from you. Thank you for proving to everyone what a lying sack of shit you are.

Yes and maybe 25% of women own guns. So gun owning women who are a minority defended 200k, while the majority of women had 80k? That is obviously ridiculous.

 

[ChrisL]

I wonder why Brainless wants women to be defenseless? I've asked him several times, and the only response I get is that "women are not defenseless without a gun against a man that is twice her size."

Now, he keeps making the bogus claim that the majority of women can physically fight off a male attacker.

Everyone knows that if a man is persistent and punches that woman in the face, she is going down with broken facial bones.

 

[ChrisL]

Well..since most states require you to be 21 to own and carry a gun....they would all be adults.....and at 17, they can carry a rifle and pistol in a combat zone for their country...but they can't carry a gun to stop a rape......really?

No they can carry a gun if they choose obviously. But very few rapes are defendable with a gun.

That is not true. According to statistics, 200,000 women have used guns to defend themselves from rape, and some didn't even have to fire a shot, just brandishing the weapon was enough to scare off the perpetrator. More dishonesty from the brainless.

Not statistics, a bad survey. Statics show there are about 80,000 rapes a year. Most of which aren't defendable with a gun.

80,000 rapes per year. Those 200,000 women would not be included in those stats because they were NOT raped. More lies from you. Thank you for proving to everyone what a lying sack of shit you are.

Yes and maybe 25% of women own guns. So gun owning women who are a minority defended 200k, while the majority of women had 80k? That is obviously ridiculous.

No, those are legitimate statistics taken from legitimate studies. One being the Kleck study. You have provided nothing at all to negate these statistics other than statistics on women who WERE raped. You're a foolish dickhead. I hope you get raped someday and then you would know how it feels, loser.

 

[2aguy]

What is this? Some kind of a joke to you? I suppose ALL of those women who have been raped just allowed it to happen then, huh brainless.

No a lot of them were drugged or drunk. Many are not yet adults. Many are taken advantage of by someone they know. But no all women are not defenseless.

Well..since most states require you to be 21 to own and carry a gun....they would all be adults.....and at 17, they can carry a rifle and pistol in a combat zone for their country...but they can't carry a gun to stop a rape......really?

No they can carry a gun if they choose obviously. But very few rapes are defendable with a gun.

That is not true. According to statistics, 200,000 women have used guns to defend themselves from rape, and some didn't even have to fire a shot, just brandishing the weapon was enough to scare off the perpetrator. More dishonesty from the brainless.

Not statistics, a bad survey. Statics show there are about 80,000 rapes a year. Most of which aren't defendable with a gun.

Those are rapes that succeed...guns stop them from succeeding and save other women from being raped....so if a rape is stopped, it doesn't get counted......

 

[Brain357]

No they can carry a gun if they choose obviously. But very few rapes are defendable with a gun.

That is not true. According to statistics, 200,000 women have used guns to defend themselves from rape, and some didn't even have to fire a shot, just brandishing the weapon was enough to scare off the perpetrator. More dishonesty from the brainless.

Not statistics, a bad survey. Statics show there are about 80,000 rapes a year. Most of which aren't defendable with a gun.

80,000 rapes per year. Those 200,000 women would not be included in those stats because they were NOT raped. More lies from you. Thank you for proving to everyone what a lying sack of shit you are.

Yes and maybe 25% of women own guns. So gun owning women who are a minority defended 200k, while the majority of women had 80k? That is obviously ridiculous.

No, those are legitimate statistics taken from legitimate studies. One being the Kleck study. You have provided nothing at all to negate these statistics other than statistics on women who WERE raped. You're a foolish dickhead. I hope you get raped someday and then you would know how it feels, loser.

Kleck is a survey. They are not statistics.

 

[Brain357]

No a lot of them were drugged or drunk. Many are not yet adults. Many are taken advantage of by someone they know. But no all women are not defenseless.

Well..since most states require you to be 21 to own and carry a gun....they would all be adults.....and at 17, they can carry a rifle and pistol in a combat zone for their country...but they can't carry a gun to stop a rape......really?

No they can carry a gun if they choose obviously. But very few rapes are defendable with a gun.

That is not true. According to statistics, 200,000 women have used guns to defend themselves from rape, and some didn't even have to fire a shot, just brandishing the weapon was enough to scare off the perpetrator. More dishonesty from the brainless.

Not statistics, a bad survey. Statics show there are about 80,000 rapes a year. Most of which aren't defendable with a gun.

Those are rapes that succeed...guns stop them from succeeding and save other women from being raped....so if a rape is stopped, it doesn't get counted......

So 25% of women defend 200k rapes and 75% of women are victims to 80k rapes? Are guns an attempted rape magnet? That would be the only explanation and I'm not buying it.

 

[pismoe]

excellent points '2aguy' , thing is that many of these anti gunner , anti Rights people have the same mentality as the subjects in England .

 

[ChrisL]

That is not true. According to statistics, 200,000 women have used guns to defend themselves from rape, and some didn't even have to fire a shot, just brandishing the weapon was enough to scare off the perpetrator. More dishonesty from the brainless.

Not statistics, a bad survey. Statics show there are about 80,000 rapes a year. Most of which aren't defendable with a gun.

80,000 rapes per year. Those 200,000 women would not be included in those stats because they were NOT raped. More lies from you. Thank you for proving to everyone what a lying sack of shit you are.

Yes and maybe 25% of women own guns. So gun owning women who are a minority defended 200k, while the majority of women had 80k? That is obviously ridiculous.

No, those are legitimate statistics taken from legitimate studies. One being the Kleck study. You have provided nothing at all to negate these statistics other than statistics on women who WERE raped. You're a foolish dickhead. I hope you get raped someday and then you would know how it feels, loser.

Kleck is a survey. They are not statistics.

Yes, there are statistics. Where do you think statistics come from? Man, oh man, you are a complete and utter moron.

 

[ChrisL]

Well..since most states require you to be 21 to own and carry a gun....they would all be adults.....and at 17, they can carry a rifle and pistol in a combat zone for their country...but they can't carry a gun to stop a rape......really?

No they can carry a gun if they choose obviously. But very few rapes are defendable with a gun.

That is not true. According to statistics, 200,000 women have used guns to defend themselves from rape, and some didn't even have to fire a shot, just brandishing the weapon was enough to scare off the perpetrator. More dishonesty from the brainless.

Not statistics, a bad survey. Statics show there are about 80,000 rapes a year. Most of which aren't defendable with a gun.

Those are rapes that succeed...guns stop them from succeeding and save other women from being raped....so if a rape is stopped, it doesn't get counted......

So 25% of women defend 200k rapes and 75% of women are victims to 80k rapes? Are guns an attempted rape magnet? That would be the only explanation and I'm not buying it.

Where are you getting these statistics? Post a link.

 

[pismoe]

I mean I had a free country to grow up in , these gun control , anti freedom guys , dems , libs are creating a he11 for their children, or just the generic youngsters in the country !!

 

[ChrisL]

According to stats by RAINN, there are more than 250,000 SUCCESSFUL sexual assaults on women, not 80,000.

Sexual Assault Numbers

• Every 107 seconds, another American is sexually assaulted
• There is an average of 293,000 victims (age 12 or older) of sexual assault each year

 

[Brain357]

According to stats by RAINN, there are more than 250,000 SUCCESSFUL sexual assaults on women, not 80,000.

Sexual Assault Numbers

• Every 107 seconds, another American is sexually assaulted
• There is an average of 293,000 victims (age 12 or older) of sexual assault each year

80,000
United States Crime Rates1960 - 2013

But let's pretend there are 293,000. If that is the case then 25% of women are defending 200k and unarmed women only 93k. Why are armed women attracting so many more assaults? According to that having a gun makes you much more likely to be assaulted. Clearly that isn't true.

 

[ChrisL]

According to stats by RAINN, there are more than 250,000 SUCCESSFUL sexual assaults on women, not 80,000.

Sexual Assault Numbers

• Every 107 seconds, another American is sexually assaulted
• There is an average of 293,000 victims (age 12 or older) of sexual assault each year

80,000
United States Crime Rates1960 - 2013

But let's pretend there are 293,000. If that is the case then 25% of women are defending 200k and unarmed women only 93k. Why are armed women attracting so many more assaults? According to that having a gun makes you much more likely to be assaulted. Clearly that isn't true.

There are some stats in your link that bring the levels of violent forcible rape to over 100,000. Again, lies.

How do you figure that 200,000 women defending themselves with weapons attracts rapists. That is a bogus claim.

Explain how having a gun would make a woman MORE likely to be attacked?

 

[ChrisL]

According to stats by RAINN, there are more than 250,000 SUCCESSFUL sexual assaults on women, not 80,000.

Sexual Assault Numbers

• Every 107 seconds, another American is sexually assaulted
• There is an average of 293,000 victims (age 12 or older) of sexual assault each year

80,000
United States Crime Rates1960 - 2013

But let's pretend there are 293,000. If that is the case then 25% of women are defending 200k and unarmed women only 93k. Why are armed women attracting so many more assaults? According to that having a gun makes you much more likely to be assaulted. Clearly that isn't true.

Everyone better take note of this idiot's dishonesty.

 

[Brain357]

According to stats by RAINN, there are more than 250,000 SUCCESSFUL sexual assaults on women, not 80,000.

Sexual Assault Numbers

• Every 107 seconds, another American is sexually assaulted
• There is an average of 293,000 victims (age 12 or older) of sexual assault each year

80,000
United States Crime Rates1960 - 2013

But let's pretend there are 293,000. If that is the case then 25% of women are defending 200k and unarmed women only 93k. Why are armed women attracting so many more assaults? According to that having a gun makes you much more likely to be assaulted. Clearly that isn't true.

There are some stats in your link that bring the levels of violent forcible rape to over 100,000. Again, lies.

How do you figure that 200,000 women defending themselves with weapons attracts rapists. That is a bogus claim.

Explain how having a gun would make a woman MORE likely to be attacked?

I'm clearly claiming it doesn't. But it would have to in order to believe the 200k. This is why 200k is obviously wrong.

 

[ChrisL]

According to stats by RAINN, there are more than 250,000 SUCCESSFUL sexual assaults on women, not 80,000.

Sexual Assault Numbers

• Every 107 seconds, another American is sexually assaulted
• There is an average of 293,000 victims (age 12 or older) of sexual assault each year

80,000
United States Crime Rates1960 - 2013

But let's pretend there are 293,000. If that is the case then 25% of women are defending 200k and unarmed women only 93k. Why are armed women attracting so many more assaults? According to that having a gun makes you much more likely to be assaulted. Clearly that isn't true.

There are some stats in your link that bring the levels of violent forcible rape to over 100,000. Again, lies.

How do you figure that 200,000 women defending themselves with weapons attracts rapists. That is a bogus claim.

Explain how having a gun would make a woman MORE likely to be attacked?

I'm clearly claiming it doesn't. But it would have to in order to believe the 200k. This is why 200k is obviously wrong.

No, it isn't wrong, and you have posted nothing to prove that it is.

http://www.bjs.gov/content/pub/pdf/vvcs9310.pdf

In 2010, strangers committed about 38% of nonfatal violent crimes, including rape/sexual assault, robbery, aggravated assault, and simple assault. „ There was no statistical difference between the percentage decline for violence by strangers (81%) and by offenders known to the victims (73%) from 1993 to 2010. „ In 2005-10, more than half (52%) of all robberies were committed by strangers, down from nearly two-thirds (64%) in 1993-98. „ In 2005-10, strangers committed 62% of violent victimizations occurring in public places. „ In 2005-10, about 9% of violent victimizations that occurred in victims’ homes were committed by strangers. „ In 2005-10, about 10% of violent victimizations committed by strangers involved a firearm, compared to 5% committed by offenders known to the victim. „ In 2005-10, about 22% of victims of violence committed by strangers were injured, compared to 31% of victims who knew the offender. „ In 2010, more than half (55%) of violent victimizations by strangers were reported to police, although the percentage fluctuated from 1993 to 2010. „ From 2005 to 2008, about 43% of homicides known to have been committed by a stranger occurred during a robbery or argument.

 

[ChrisL]

According to stats by RAINN, there are more than 250,000 SUCCESSFUL sexual assaults on women, not 80,000.

Sexual Assault Numbers

• Every 107 seconds, another American is sexually assaulted
• There is an average of 293,000 victims (age 12 or older) of sexual assault each year

80,000
United States Crime Rates1960 - 2013

But let's pretend there are 293,000. If that is the case then 25% of women are defending 200k and unarmed women only 93k. Why are armed women attracting so many more assaults? According to that having a gun makes you much more likely to be assaulted. Clearly that isn't true.

There are some stats in your link that bring the levels of violent forcible rape to over 100,000. Again, lies.

How do you figure that 200,000 women defending themselves with weapons attracts rapists. That is a bogus claim.

Explain how having a gun would make a woman MORE likely to be attacked?

I'm clearly claiming it doesn't. But it would have to in order to believe the 200k. This is why 200k is obviously wrong.

No, it doesn't mean what you are claiming it means. That is your own "addition." No statistics say that women who are armed are MORE likely to be assaulted. Liar.

 

[Brain357]

According to stats by RAINN, there are more than 250,000 SUCCESSFUL sexual assaults on women, not 80,000.

Sexual Assault Numbers

• Every 107 seconds, another American is sexually assaulted
• There is an average of 293,000 victims (age 12 or older) of sexual assault each year

80,000
United States Crime Rates1960 - 2013

But let's pretend there are 293,000. If that is the case then 25% of women are defending 200k and unarmed women only 93k. Why are armed women attracting so many more assaults? According to that having a gun makes you much more likely to be assaulted. Clearly that isn't true.

There are some stats in your link that bring the levels of violent forcible rape to over 100,000. Again, lies.

How do you figure that 200,000 women defending themselves with weapons attracts rapists. That is a bogus claim.

Explain how having a gun would make a woman MORE likely to be attacked?

I'm clearly claiming it doesn't. But it would have to in order to believe the 200k. This is why 200k is obviously wrong.

No, it isn't wrong, and you have posted nothing to prove that it is.

http://www.bjs.gov/content/pub/pdf/vvcs9310.pdf

In 2010, strangers committed about 38% of nonfatal violent crimes, including rape/sexual assault, robbery, aggravated assault, and simple assault. „ There was no statistical difference between the percentage decline for violence by strangers (81%) and by offenders known to the victims (73%) from 1993 to 2010. „ In 2005-10, more than half (52%) of all robberies were committed by strangers, down from nearly two-thirds (64%) in 1993-98. „ In 2005-10, strangers committed 62% of violent victimizations occurring in public places. „ In 2005-10, about 9% of violent victimizations that occurred in victims’ homes were committed by strangers. „ In 2005-10, about 10% of violent victimizations committed by strangers involved a firearm, compared to 5% committed by offenders known to the victim. „ In 2005-10, about 22% of victims of violence committed by strangers were injured, compared to 31% of victims who knew the offender. „ In 2010, more than half (55%) of violent victimizations by strangers were reported to police, although the percentage fluctuated from 1993 to 2010. „ From 2005 to 2008, about 43% of homicides known to have been committed by a stranger occurred during a robbery or argument.

Sorry but math shows it to be ridiculous. 25% of women can't defend 200k when 75% are victims of 80k.

 

[ChrisL]

According to stats by RAINN, there are more than 250,000 SUCCESSFUL sexual assaults on women, not 80,000.

Sexual Assault Numbers

• Every 107 seconds, another American is sexually assaulted
• There is an average of 293,000 victims (age 12 or older) of sexual assault each year

80,000
United States Crime Rates1960 - 2013

But let's pretend there are 293,000. If that is the case then 25% of women are defending 200k and unarmed women only 93k. Why are armed women attracting so many more assaults? According to that having a gun makes you much more likely to be assaulted. Clearly that isn't true.

There are some stats in your link that bring the levels of violent forcible rape to over 100,000. Again, lies.

How do you figure that 200,000 women defending themselves with weapons attracts rapists. That is a bogus claim.

Explain how having a gun would make a woman MORE likely to be attacked?

I'm clearly claiming it doesn't. But it would have to in order to believe the 200k. This is why 200k is obviously wrong.

No, it isn't wrong, and you have posted nothing to prove that it is.

http://www.bjs.gov/content/pub/pdf/vvcs9310.pdf

In 2010, strangers committed about 38% of nonfatal violent crimes, including rape/sexual assault, robbery, aggravated assault, and simple assault. „ There was no statistical difference between the percentage decline for violence by strangers (81%) and by offenders known to the victims (73%) from 1993 to 2010. „ In 2005-10, more than half (52%) of all robberies were committed by strangers, down from nearly two-thirds (64%) in 1993-98. „ In 2005-10, strangers committed 62% of violent victimizations occurring in public places. „ In 2005-10, about 9% of violent victimizations that occurred in victims’ homes were committed by strangers. „ In 2005-10, about 10% of violent victimizations committed by strangers involved a firearm, compared to 5% committed by offenders known to the victim. „ In 2005-10, about 22% of victims of violence committed by strangers were injured, compared to 31% of victims who knew the offender. „ In 2010, more than half (55%) of violent victimizations by strangers were reported to police, although the percentage fluctuated from 1993 to 2010. „ From 2005 to 2008, about 43% of homicides known to have been committed by a stranger occurred during a robbery or argument.

Sorry but math shows it to be ridiculous. 25% of women can't defend 200k when 75% are victims of 80k.

The 200,000 women would NOT be included in the raped category because they were NOT raped. They defended against rape with the use of a firearm.

 

[Brain357]

80,000
United States Crime Rates1960 - 2013

But let's pretend there are 293,000. If that is the case then 25% of women are defending 200k and unarmed women only 93k. Why are armed women attracting so many more assaults? According to that having a gun makes you much more likely to be assaulted. Clearly that isn't true.

There are some stats in your link that bring the levels of violent forcible rape to over 100,000. Again, lies.

How do you figure that 200,000 women defending themselves with weapons attracts rapists. That is a bogus claim.

Explain how having a gun would make a woman MORE likely to be attacked?

I'm clearly claiming it doesn't. But it would have to in order to believe the 200k. This is why 200k is obviously wrong.

No, it isn't wrong, and you have posted nothing to prove that it is.

http://www.bjs.gov/content/pub/pdf/vvcs9310.pdf

In 2010, strangers committed about 38% of nonfatal violent crimes, including rape/sexual assault, robbery, aggravated assault, and simple assault. „ There was no statistical difference between the percentage decline for violence by strangers (81%) and by offenders known to the victims (73%) from 1993 to 2010. „ In 2005-10, more than half (52%) of all robberies were committed by strangers, down from nearly two-thirds (64%) in 1993-98. „ In 2005-10, strangers committed 62% of violent victimizations occurring in public places. „ In 2005-10, about 9% of violent victimizations that occurred in victims’ homes were committed by strangers. „ In 2005-10, about 10% of violent victimizations committed by strangers involved a firearm, compared to 5% committed by offenders known to the victim. „ In 2005-10, about 22% of victims of violence committed by strangers were injured, compared to 31% of victims who knew the offender. „ In 2010, more than half (55%) of violent victimizations by strangers were reported to police, although the percentage fluctuated from 1993 to 2010. „ From 2005 to 2008, about 43% of homicides known to have been committed by a stranger occurred during a robbery or argument.

Sorry but math shows it to be ridiculous. 25% of women can't defend 200k when 75% are victims of 80k.

The 200,000 women would NOT be included in the raped category because they were NOT raped. They defended against rape with the use of a firearm.

Why would armed women who represent 25% of population defend 200k, while unarmed women who are defenseless as you say and 75% of population fall victim to only 80k? If they are assaulted at the same rate the unarmed must be defending 500k. Not so defenseless I guess.