Why Are Police Shootings Dominating the News?

[Esmeralda]

Democrats are using the police as a scapegoat for their corruption and failure. Did you know that Baltimore received $1.8 billion in stimulus money from Obama? Take a guess who got the lions share of this money...yes public employee unions the Democratic party's cash cow for campaign contributions. Guess how many jobs they created for $1.8 billion, 290 that's $2.9 million spent per job. Hundreds of millions were siphoned off by the public employee unions, this left an embarrassing $3 million for jobs training for poor black neighborhoods.

How about citing a source for this. Facts are facts. Prove your knowledge claims are facts.

 

[Sonny Clark]

The only reason that we even have a police force is because a percentage of people won't behave. Probably the same percentage of police that won't behave. Address brutality in general if you want to be taken seriously.

Big difference. John Q. Public is held accountable for brutality, murder, rape, stealing, and other crimes, and 99% of the time, cops walk. Our courts generally give cops a free pass, where you and I would be serving time in the big house for doing what they do.

99% of the time ? Really ? Got a link for that please ?

Nope, no link. But, I do know, and get you a link, showing how many cops are in our prisons and jails. There have been several articles written on this subject over the years. It's been awhile since I've read one, but I'm sure that I can research it and get you a link if you really doubt that cops are rarely arrested, tried, convicted and sentenced for the same crimes that they arrest us for. Basically, it's common knowledge. Cops rarely go to prison for brutality, rape, stealing, murder, taking bribes from drug dealers and pimps, lying in court, planting evidence, and covering for other bad cops.

Blah blah blah---seriously. I think your point is to somehow tell us how much worse cops are than the general population. You are failing. Mighty easy to criticize someone else ain't it ?

Nope, you're very wrong. I have never ever said nor implied that cops were worse than the general public, and certainly they're not. Obviously, you've misunderstood everything that I've said.

 

[Asclepias]

Big difference. John Q. Public is held accountable for brutality, murder, rape, stealing, and other crimes, and 99% of the time, cops walk. Our courts generally give cops a free pass, where you and I would be serving time in the big house for doing what they do.

99% of the time ? Really ? Got a link for that please ?

Nope, no link. But, I do know, and get you a link, showing how many cops are in our prisons and jails. There have been several articles written on this subject over the years. It's been awhile since I've read one, but I'm sure that I can research it and get you a link if you really doubt that cops are rarely arrested, tried, convicted and sentenced for the same crimes that they arrest us for. Basically, it's common knowledge. Cops rarely go to prison for brutality, rape, stealing, murder, taking bribes from drug dealers and pimps, lying in court, planting evidence, and covering for other bad cops.

Blah blah blah---seriously. I think your point is to somehow tell us how much worse cops are than the general population. You are failing. Mighty easy to criticize someone else ain't it ?

Great argument. Blah blah blah? You are running out of deflections.

it sums up your argument quite nicely since you have offered nothing in the ways of facts.

Kind of hard to give you facts to an argument you claim someone made but they didnt.

 

[Asclepias]

The only reason that we even have a police force is because a percentage of people won't behave. Probably the same percentage of police that won't behave. Address brutality in general if you want to be taken seriously.

Big difference. John Q. Public is held accountable for brutality, murder, rape, stealing, and other crimes, and 99% of the time, cops walk. Our courts generally give cops a free pass, where you and I would be serving time in the big house for doing what they do.

99% of the time ? Really ? Got a link for that please ?

Nope, no link. But, I do know, and get you a link, showing how many cops are in our prisons and jails. There have been several articles written on this subject over the years. It's been awhile since I've read one, but I'm sure that I can research it and get you a link if you really doubt that cops are rarely arrested, tried, convicted and sentenced for the same crimes that they arrest us for. Basically, it's common knowledge. Cops rarely go to prison for brutality, rape, stealing, murder, taking bribes from drug dealers and pimps, lying in court, planting evidence, and covering for other bad cops.

Blah blah blah---seriously. I think your point is to somehow tell us how much worse cops are than the general population. You are failing. Mighty easy to criticize someone else ain't it ?

Nope, you're very wrong. I have never ever said nor implied that cops were worse than the general public, and certainly they're not. Obviously, you've misunderstood everything that I've said.

He is trying out all of his deflections since he cant support his own arguments.

 

[Sonny Clark]

Big difference. John Q. Public is held accountable for brutality, murder, rape, stealing, and other crimes, and 99% of the time, cops walk. Our courts generally give cops a free pass, where you and I would be serving time in the big house for doing what they do.

99% of the time ? Really ? Got a link for that please ?

Stop deflecting. You know its true.

because you say so ? you're getting funnier

No because the records say so. You are getting more hilarious!

Show us the records that "prove" cops commit more brutality than civilians. You found a scape goat. Nothing more.

Cops do NOT commit more brutality than John Q. Public, and I have never ever said nor implied such. It would be very stupid to say or to imply such nonsense.

 

[Esmeralda]

TIME to wake up folks, these far and few Incidents they are picking and choosing TO PROTEST OVER. all of this is being PLANNED by, (guess who) and being used Against YOU by the Democrat party, Unions, etc FOR THEIR AGENDAS. they are also using BLACK people (the rioters and looters) in all this AS PAWNS.
wake the hell up

snip:
olice shootings and other tales of alleged police abuse (e.g., Eric Garner) dominate the news these days. You can hardly open a newspaper or turn on a television set without seeing protesters, rioters and looters, along with earnest talking heads debating the issue. Why is this? Why has violence on the part of policemen become the story du jour?

One possible answer is that police violence is a terrible problem that presumably has been with us for quite a while, but is just now coming to light. Some respectable commentators support this view. Reason, for example, links to KilledByPolice.net and concludes that “more than 1,000 people have been killed by police in 2014.” KilledByPolice.net is an interesting, bare bones database that collects stories about fatal incidents involving law enforcement from a wide variety of sources.

But it isn’t really a shock that, in a country of 320 million, there are a perceptible number of fatal encounters with policemen. If you follow the links on the KilledByPolice site, it is immediately obvious that in the overwhelming majority of cases, no possible blame can be attached to the officers in question. Most often the person they shoot is a criminal, and they shoot the criminal because the criminal fired first. The second most common fatal incident is commonly referred to as “suicide by cop.” This happens often, and one can argue that better means of dealing with would-be suicides could be developed. But this is not the issue that consumes our news shows. (A digression: an astonishing number of people commit suicide by standing in front of trains. No one blames the railroads for this.)

I haven’t attempted an exhaustive analysis of the cases linked at KilledByPolice, but if you spend some time reviewing the linked stories, I think you will conclude, as I did, that the percentage of cases in which police officers could reasonably be blamed is very small–somewhere between 1 and 5 percent. So maybe there are somewhere between 10 and 50 cases a year where a serious claim could be made that improper police conduct–not just homicide, but any sort of questionable judgment–resulted in a fatality. (From what we know so far, I would say that the Freddie Gray case is probably one of them.) Is this enough to explain the current obsession with the police?

I don’t think so. To draw a simple comparison, every year something like 390 children, most of them younger than five years old, drown in swimming pools. If our news media were to take on swimming pool safety as a cause, and give every one of these drownings–more than one per day–front page, above the fold coverage, and if our television talking heads were to devote a large portion of their time to debating swimming pool safety and the ins and outs of each individual drowning, many people would no doubt be convinced that we are living in the midst of a swimming pool crisis. That crisis would be an order of magnitude greater than the police abuse scandal, and a large majority of the victims would be small children, not the sketchy characters that police officers so often encounter.

But that isn’t happening. Given the comparative insignificance of the police abuse issue, quantitatively speaking, one might suspect that its current dominance of public discourse fits someone’s agenda.

Which, of course, it does. The police abuse story, which began in a nascent form with Trayvon Martin and continued, more fully developed, with Eric Garner, Michael Brown and Freddie Gray, is part of the Democratic Party’s effort to divide America along racial lines, in expectation of political gain. Leftists say “Black lives matter,” as though there were some people who say they don’t. Rarely has paranoia been more ruthlessly, or more dishonestly, promoted.

But a more specific left-wing agenda may also be in play. Al Sharpton–as buffoonish as Harry Reid and as corrupt as Hillary Clinton, with more blood on his hands than Democratic National Committeeman Bull Connor–is one of his party’s most authentic spokesmen. And Sharpton wants to place the nation’s police forces under federal control: “We need the Justice Department to step in and take over policing in this country.” Here he is:

ALL of it here:
Why Are Police Shootings Dominating the News Power Line

Police Brutality The Free Thought Project

the free thought project is a BLOG, why are we suppose to take them as a serious source?
I checked them and it is a DISGUSTING lowlife place folks. DO NOT GO TO THIS SITE unless you want garbage

Dummy.

YOU posted a far right blog.

Admit it - you don't want facts. You only want rabid RW racism.

I think we should be looking at all sides of any given issue.

Can you dispute any of the stories? If so, please do it.

It's a rightwing blog. Can the OP prove any of these stories? Where is the evidence? The concrete, empirical evidence to support such claims?

 

[mudwhistle]

TIME to wake up folks, these far and few Incidents they are picking and choosing TO PROTEST OVER. all of this is being PLANNED by, (guess who) and being used Against YOU by the Democrat party, Unions, etc FOR THEIR AGENDAS. they are also using BLACK people (the rioters and looters) in all this AS PAWNS.
wake the hell up

snip:
olice shootings and other tales of alleged police abuse (e.g., Eric Garner) dominate the news these days. You can hardly open a newspaper or turn on a television set without seeing protesters, rioters and looters, along with earnest talking heads debating the issue. Why is this? Why has violence on the part of policemen become the story du jour?

One possible answer is that police violence is a terrible problem that presumably has been with us for quite a while, but is just now coming to light. Some respectable commentators support this view. Reason, for example, links to KilledByPolice.net and concludes that “more than 1,000 people have been killed by police in 2014.” KilledByPolice.net is an interesting, bare bones database that collects stories about fatal incidents involving law enforcement from a wide variety of sources.

But it isn’t really a shock that, in a country of 320 million, there are a perceptible number of fatal encounters with policemen. If you follow the links on the KilledByPolice site, it is immediately obvious that in the overwhelming majority of cases, no possible blame can be attached to the officers in question. Most often the person they shoot is a criminal, and they shoot the criminal because the criminal fired first. The second most common fatal incident is commonly referred to as “suicide by cop.” This happens often, and one can argue that better means of dealing with would-be suicides could be developed. But this is not the issue that consumes our news shows. (A digression: an astonishing number of people commit suicide by standing in front of trains. No one blames the railroads for this.)

I haven’t attempted an exhaustive analysis of the cases linked at KilledByPolice, but if you spend some time reviewing the linked stories, I think you will conclude, as I did, that the percentage of cases in which police officers could reasonably be blamed is very small–somewhere between 1 and 5 percent. So maybe there are somewhere between 10 and 50 cases a year where a serious claim could be made that improper police conduct–not just homicide, but any sort of questionable judgment–resulted in a fatality. (From what we know so far, I would say that the Freddie Gray case is probably one of them.) Is this enough to explain the current obsession with the police?

I don’t think so. To draw a simple comparison, every year something like 390 children, most of them younger than five years old, drown in swimming pools. If our news media were to take on swimming pool safety as a cause, and give every one of these drownings–more than one per day–front page, above the fold coverage, and if our television talking heads were to devote a large portion of their time to debating swimming pool safety and the ins and outs of each individual drowning, many people would no doubt be convinced that we are living in the midst of a swimming pool crisis. That crisis would be an order of magnitude greater than the police abuse scandal, and a large majority of the victims would be small children, not the sketchy characters that police officers so often encounter.

But that isn’t happening. Given the comparative insignificance of the police abuse issue, quantitatively speaking, one might suspect that its current dominance of public discourse fits someone’s agenda.

Which, of course, it does. The police abuse story, which began in a nascent form with Trayvon Martin and continued, more fully developed, with Eric Garner, Michael Brown and Freddie Gray, is part of the Democratic Party’s effort to divide America along racial lines, in expectation of political gain. Leftists say “Black lives matter,” as though there were some people who say they don’t. Rarely has paranoia been more ruthlessly, or more dishonestly, promoted.

But a more specific left-wing agenda may also be in play. Al Sharpton–as buffoonish as Harry Reid and as corrupt as Hillary Clinton, with more blood on his hands than Democratic National Committeeman Bull Connor–is one of his party’s most authentic spokesmen. And Sharpton wants to place the nation’s police forces under federal control: “We need the Justice Department to step in and take over policing in this country.” Here he is:

ALL of it here:
Why Are Police Shootings Dominating the News Power Line

Who controls the media in this country????

 

[dilloduck]

There's nothing to deflect. The general population is far more brutal than the police force. It's why we even have police in the first place. You want them to be nicer but would never be one. Why aren't you addressing the gangs that destroy peoples lives and property on a daily basis ?

 

[Asclepias]

There's nothing to deflect. The general population is far more brutal than the police force. It's why we even have police in the first place. You want them to be nicer but would never be one. Why aren't you addressing the gangs that destroy peoples lives and property on a daily basis ?

The very fact you brought up the general population is a deflection. We are talking about the problem with dirty cops. We arent talking about the gangs because we dont pay them to obey and uphold the law. Do you understand where you got confused now?

 

[dilloduck]

There's nothing to deflect. The general population is far more brutal than the police force. It's why we even have police in the first place. You want them to be nicer but would never be one. Why aren't you addressing the gangs that destroy peoples lives and property on a daily basis ?

The very fact you brought up the general population is a deflection. We are talking about the problem with dirty cops. We arent talking about the gangs because we dont pay them to obey the law. Do you understand where you got confused now?

Again---the ONLY reason we have cops is because fuckheads won't obey the laws. No fuckheads--no cops.

 

[Asclepias]

There's nothing to deflect. The general population is far more brutal than the police force. It's why we even have police in the first place. You want them to be nicer but would never be one. Why aren't you addressing the gangs that destroy peoples lives and property on a daily basis ?

The very fact you brought up the general population is a deflection. We are talking about the problem with dirty cops. We arent talking about the gangs because we dont pay them to obey the law. Do you understand where you got confused now?

Again---the ONLY reason we have cops is because fuckheads won't obey the laws. No fuckheads--no cops.

We arent talking about the reason we have cops either. Try to focus.

 

[Stephanie]

TIME to wake up folks, these far and few Incidents they are picking and choosing TO PROTEST OVER. all of this is being PLANNED by, (guess who) and being used Against YOU by the Democrat party, Unions, etc FOR THEIR AGENDAS. they are also using BLACK people (the rioters and looters) in all this AS PAWNS.
wake the hell up

snip:
olice shootings and other tales of alleged police abuse (e.g., Eric Garner) dominate the news these days. You can hardly open a newspaper or turn on a television set without seeing protesters, rioters and looters, along with earnest talking heads debating the issue. Why is this? Why has violence on the part of policemen become the story du jour?

One possible answer is that police violence is a terrible problem that presumably has been with us for quite a while, but is just now coming to light. Some respectable commentators support this view. Reason, for example, links to KilledByPolice.net and concludes that “more than 1,000 people have been killed by police in 2014.” KilledByPolice.net is an interesting, bare bones database that collects stories about fatal incidents involving law enforcement from a wide variety of sources.

But it isn’t really a shock that, in a country of 320 million, there are a perceptible number of fatal encounters with policemen. If you follow the links on the KilledByPolice site, it is immediately obvious that in the overwhelming majority of cases, no possible blame can be attached to the officers in question. Most often the person they shoot is a criminal, and they shoot the criminal because the criminal fired first. The second most common fatal incident is commonly referred to as “suicide by cop.” This happens often, and one can argue that better means of dealing with would-be suicides could be developed. But this is not the issue that consumes our news shows. (A digression: an astonishing number of people commit suicide by standing in front of trains. No one blames the railroads for this.)

I haven’t attempted an exhaustive analysis of the cases linked at KilledByPolice, but if you spend some time reviewing the linked stories, I think you will conclude, as I did, that the percentage of cases in which police officers could reasonably be blamed is very small–somewhere between 1 and 5 percent. So maybe there are somewhere between 10 and 50 cases a year where a serious claim could be made that improper police conduct–not just homicide, but any sort of questionable judgment–resulted in a fatality. (From what we know so far, I would say that the Freddie Gray case is probably one of them.) Is this enough to explain the current obsession with the police?

I don’t think so. To draw a simple comparison, every year something like 390 children, most of them younger than five years old, drown in swimming pools. If our news media were to take on swimming pool safety as a cause, and give every one of these drownings–more than one per day–front page, above the fold coverage, and if our television talking heads were to devote a large portion of their time to debating swimming pool safety and the ins and outs of each individual drowning, many people would no doubt be convinced that we are living in the midst of a swimming pool crisis. That crisis would be an order of magnitude greater than the police abuse scandal, and a large majority of the victims would be small children, not the sketchy characters that police officers so often encounter.

But that isn’t happening. Given the comparative insignificance of the police abuse issue, quantitatively speaking, one might suspect that its current dominance of public discourse fits someone’s agenda.

Which, of course, it does. The police abuse story, which began in a nascent form with Trayvon Martin and continued, more fully developed, with Eric Garner, Michael Brown and Freddie Gray, is part of the Democratic Party’s effort to divide America along racial lines, in expectation of political gain. Leftists say “Black lives matter,” as though there were some people who say they don’t. Rarely has paranoia been more ruthlessly, or more dishonestly, promoted.

But a more specific left-wing agenda may also be in play. Al Sharpton–as buffoonish as Harry Reid and as corrupt as Hillary Clinton, with more blood on his hands than Democratic National Committeeman Bull Connor–is one of his party’s most authentic spokesmen. And Sharpton wants to place the nation’s police forces under federal control: “We need the Justice Department to step in and take over policing in this country.” Here he is:

ALL of it here:
Why Are Police Shootings Dominating the News Power Line

Police Brutality The Free Thought Project

the free thought project is a BLOG, why are we suppose to take them as a serious source?
I checked them and it is a DISGUSTING lowlife place folks. DO NOT GO TO THIS SITE unless you want garbage

Dummy.

YOU posted a far right blog.

Admit it - you don't want facts. You only want rabid RW racism.

I think we should be looking at all sides of any given issue.

Can you dispute any of the stories? If so, please do it.

It's a rightwing blog. Can the OP prove any of these stories? Where is the evidence? The concrete, empirical evidence to support such claims?

stroking stroking stroking. how cute. but it did get ya a couple atta boys

 

[dilloduck]

There's nothing to deflect. The general population is far more brutal than the police force. It's why we even have police in the first place. You want them to be nicer but would never be one. Why aren't you addressing the gangs that destroy peoples lives and property on a daily basis ?

The very fact you brought up the general population is a deflection. We are talking about the problem with dirty cops. We arent talking about the gangs because we dont pay them to obey the law. Do you understand where you got confused now?

Again---the ONLY reason we have cops is because fuckheads won't obey the laws. No fuckheads--no cops.

We arent talking about the reason we have cops either. Try to focus.

but you should be--instead you are deflecting.

 

[Esmeralda]

Police shootings are this years shark attacks. By July, the public stomach for consuming the stories will be well saturated and the media will move on. Part of that will be the well drying up....I would imagine that in PDs across the nation, the word is being passed down to not use deadly force unless you have to. If, for no other reason, the politics involved; most Chiefs of Police are appointed by elected officials and, knowing this, the mayors will be riding their top cops hard on this front. It will take months to shake it out to the street level.

The reality is that we have a lot of people who think they know where the line is thanks to the Internet and YouTube and will give peace officers who are just trying to do their job a hard time. Every so often a furtive movement will be read wrong and boom, Al Sharpton is in your town for his own idiotic purposes. Al could care less about the victim or their families.

I

Police officers should only ever use deadly force when they have no other choice. That should be a given. It may be that police departments 'across the nation' need to reinforce that fundamental guideline to their people.

I don't think police shootings are flavor of the month: they are obviously happening too often under circumstances that could and should have gone otherwise.

 

[Sonny Clark]

Police Brutality The Free Thought Project

the free thought project is a BLOG, why are we suppose to take them as a serious source?
I checked them and it is a DISGUSTING lowlife place folks. DO NOT GO TO THIS SITE unless you want garbage

Dummy.

YOU posted a far right blog.

Admit it - you don't want facts. You only want rabid RW racism.

I think we should be looking at all sides of any given issue.

Can you dispute any of the stories? If so, please do it.

It's a rightwing blog. Can the OP prove any of these stories? Where is the evidence? The concrete, empirical evidence to support such claims?

stroking stroking stroking. how cute

Ok ... we'll wait until you're finished .... thanks for letting us know what the delay is for ........... you really didn't have to do it ... but take your time .. we'll wait ...

 

[Esmeralda]

Police Brutality The Free Thought Project

the free thought project is a BLOG, why are we suppose to take them as a serious source?
I checked them and it is a DISGUSTING lowlife place folks. DO NOT GO TO THIS SITE unless you want garbage

Dummy.

YOU posted a far right blog.

Admit it - you don't want facts. You only want rabid RW racism.

I think we should be looking at all sides of any given issue.

Can you dispute any of the stories? If so, please do it.

It's a rightwing blog. Can the OP prove any of these stories? Where is the evidence? The concrete, empirical evidence to support such claims?

stroking stroking stroking. how cute. but it did get ya a couple atta boys

Hmmm....still no empirical evidence to support your claims, or, that is, the claims in the blog you used as a source.

 

[Asclepias]

There's nothing to deflect. The general population is far more brutal than the police force. It's why we even have police in the first place. You want them to be nicer but would never be one. Why aren't you addressing the gangs that destroy peoples lives and property on a daily basis ?

The very fact you brought up the general population is a deflection. We are talking about the problem with dirty cops. We arent talking about the gangs because we dont pay them to obey the law. Do you understand where you got confused now?

Again---the ONLY reason we have cops is because fuckheads won't obey the laws. No fuckheads--no cops.

We arent talking about the reason we have cops either. Try to focus.

but you should be--instead you are deflecting.

No. I shoudnt be. I'm talking about the OP. You are the one deflecting. This isnt a comparison between the general public and the cops.

 

[mudwhistle]

There's nothing to deflect. The general population is far more brutal than the police force. It's why we even have police in the first place. You want them to be nicer but would never be one. Why aren't you addressing the gangs that destroy peoples lives and property on a daily basis ?

The very fact you brought up the general population is a deflection. We are talking about the problem with dirty cops. We arent talking about the gangs because we dont pay them to obey the law. Do you understand where you got confused now?

Again---the ONLY reason we have cops is because fuckheads won't obey the laws. No fuckheads--no cops.

Cops need to be respected and feared. There's a reason for that. If they aren't respected they become targets.....if they aren't feared....it won't discourage meatheads from repeatedly breaking the law.

 

[dilloduck]

Why are police shootings dominating the news then ? Who made this decision ?

 

[mudwhistle]