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LIE on your part...again!

USA Today

5/15/2001

George W. Bush would have won a hand count of Florida's disputed ballots if the standard advocated by Al Gore had been used, the first full study of the ballots reveals. Bush would have won by 1,665 votes — more than triple his official 537-vote margin — if every dimple, hanging chad and mark on the ballots had been counted as votes, a USA TODAY/Miami Herald/Knight Ridder study shows. The study is the first comprehensive review of the 61,195 "undervote" ballots that were at the center of Florida's disputed presidential election.

USATODAY.com - Newspapers' recount shows Bush prevailed
They only counted the undervotes, not all the ballots that were in dispute. It is interesting to note, of the 4 standards for reviewing the votes, Gore would've won one of them.

From your link...
The fourth standard gives Gore a razor-thin win.

So where's the lie, asshole?
 
Because they knew many people would lose their current insurance at the time. If you couldn't find (or afford) a plan on the Commie list that had your doctor, you simply lost your doctor or would have to pay cash for his or her services.
I looked at the exchange for California and there was like 40 different plans you could choose from. And many plans allowed you to pick your doctor.
 
You said there were none you are wrong I don't have to provide any more proof
RW idiocy. We're a RW functional oligarchy/kleptocracy and you dupes blame the Dems. Ay caramba.

It seems Skull Pilot called you out and you are unable to answer the bell. You have been had dumb dumb.
So tell us all the Dem policies that have made us a nightmare society the last 35 years. Dupes somehow believe Obama policies passed during his 2 years of total control (with 200+ GOP filibusters) added to that...

Yes ACA passed DUH.Everyone not paid by GOP billionaires agrees that had no effect on the economy.

ACA is a nightmare dumb dumb, anyone who thinks it is working is a dumb dumb, dumb dumb.
It's working better than it was before ACA. Also irrelevant to this argument. Tell us why our mess of a country is Dems' fault, not the New BS GOP's, dupe. After 30 years of Voodoo: worst min. wage, work conditions, illegal work safeguards, vacations, work week, college costs, rich/poor gap, upward social mobility, % homeless and in prison EVAH, and in the modern world!!

Here is how well it is working. Obamacare company shutdown leaves customers in a lurch, facing higher costs
 
That's because in Florida, all ballots had to be certified in seven days. No if's ands or buts about it.

If you want a recount, fine, have a recount and have your ballots turned in in seven days.

The problem in Florida was leftist judges. The lib judges who were Gore's buddies decided they didn't like the seven day law. So they ruled Gore could take all the time he needed to find ballots in his favor. They created law on the bench also known as judicial legislation.

When the Supreme Court got the case, they sent it back to the Florida courts to ask them WTF in the world they were doing? That's when the race was declared over.
Do you believe in karma?

From what I can recall, it was Scalia who cast the vote to stop the recount. Now he's dead! Maybe if that fucking prick allowed the recount to continue, God wouldn't have taken his life? Scalia was a major scumbag and I'm glad he's gone. I hope he's burning in hell for the shit he did.
 
That's because in Florida, all ballots had to be certified in seven days. No if's ands or buts about it.

If you want a recount, fine, have a recount and have your ballots turned in in seven days.

The problem in Florida was leftist judges. The lib judges who were Gore's buddies decided they didn't like the seven day law. So they ruled Gore could take all the time he needed to find ballots in his favor. They created law on the bench also known as judicial legislation.

When the Supreme Court got the case, they sent it back to the Florida courts to ask them WTF in the world they were doing? That's when the race was declared over.
Do you believe in karma?

From what I can recall, it was Scalia who cast the vote to stop the recount. Now he's dead! Maybe if that fucking prick allowed the recount to continue, God wouldn't have taken his life? Scalia was a major scumbag and I'm glad he's gone. I hope he's burning in hell for the shit he did.

Well I understand how liberals hate the law. After all, most criminal types do. But obeying law is no reason to wish people to burn in hell; that is unless you are Satin himself.

Nobody on the SC stopped the count. They "asked" the Florida court to explain their illegal actions.

To the chagrin of liberals like yourself, judges don't make law, they are only supposed to rule if law was exercised legally and properly. Legislatures make law.
 
That's because in Florida, all ballots had to be certified in seven days. No if's ands or buts about it.

If you want a recount, fine, have a recount and have your ballots turned in in seven days.

The problem in Florida was leftist judges. The lib judges who were Gore's buddies decided they didn't like the seven day law. So they ruled Gore could take all the time he needed to find ballots in his favor. They created law on the bench also known as judicial legislation.

When the Supreme Court got the case, they sent it back to the Florida courts to ask them WTF in the world they were doing? That's when the race was declared over.
Do you believe in karma?

From what I can recall, it was Scalia who cast the vote to stop the recount. Now he's dead! Maybe if that fucking prick allowed the recount to continue, God wouldn't have taken his life? Scalia was a major scumbag and I'm glad he's gone. I hope he's burning in hell for the shit he did.
So is it wrong for me to wish your death and hope you take Ginsburg with you? You'll need some company in hell.
 
Because they knew many people would lose their current insurance at the time. If you couldn't find (or afford) a plan on the Commie list that had your doctor, you simply lost your doctor or would have to pay cash for his or her services.
I looked at the exchange for California and there was like 40 different plans you could choose from. And many plans allowed you to pick your doctor.

Then look at my state of Ohio. There is only ONE insurance company that will cover my provider--the Cleveland Clinic. The plan would cost me 20% of my net pay and has a 7K out of pocket and a 7.1K deductible. No eye coverage, no prescription coverage, and a $50.00 copay doctor visit charge.

In other words, if I joined Commie Care, there is no way for me to keep my doctor or care facility I've been going to all of my life.
 
LIE on your part...again!

USA Today

5/15/2001

George W. Bush would have won a hand count of Florida's disputed ballots if the standard advocated by Al Gore had been used, the first full study of the ballots reveals. Bush would have won by 1,665 votes — more than triple his official 537-vote margin — if every dimple, hanging chad and mark on the ballots had been counted as votes, a USA TODAY/Miami Herald/Knight Ridder study shows. The study is the first comprehensive review of the 61,195 "undervote" ballots that were at the center of Florida's disputed presidential election.

USATODAY.com - Newspapers' recount shows Bush prevailed
They only counted the undervotes, not all the ballots that were in dispute. It is interesting to note, of the 4 standards for reviewing the votes, Gore would've won one of them.

From your link...
The fourth standard gives Gore a razor-thin win.

So where's the lie, asshole?


In Florida, the law is that you can't recount ballots in favored areas. If you have recounts in three Democrat areas, you must have three recounts in Republican areas as well.

It was yet another violation of the Florida laws when the court said Gore could have recounts in his districts only.
 
You can keep your doctor was an out and out lie to get support from the country as most were against the health bill.
Explain why it was a lie. I've already explained why it would not be. And most of the country was NOT against this bill. 70% of Americans wanted this bill passed. How could most of the country be against this bill when, at the time, 51% of all bankruptcies in the country were due to medical costs?

Bush stole nothing the recounts had Bush ahead and so nothing was stolen, just a left wing nutters lie.
How do you know, the one in Florida was not able to finish.

No proof Bush lied to get us into a war.
I already posted the proof, if you don't want to believe it, that's your business.

When most of his opposition at the time supported him based on the information they had all received.
I was part of the opposition. Still am. I knew it was bullshit the moment he started talking about it. Why would anyone think a country of goat herders, with barely any running water or electricity, 9000 miles away with no navy, is a threat to a country with the most technologically advanced military this planet has ever seen?

Nobody wants dirty anything, they are looking to balance the needs vs the environment. Who is starving?
They are looking to deconstruct basic services just to feed that obscene defense budget.

Who are they starving? The people who were receiving meals on wheels.

When Obamacare was passed in 2009, 60% of Americans did not approve. Obamacare

Bush would have won Florida. The Florida Recount of 2000 - FactCheck.org

Where did the WMDs go that Sadaam had in January of 2001 when Clinton was President. Clinton, Gore, Kerry all claimed Iraq had WMDs. Did they lie also?

Are the people not getting meals on wheels starving or are they getting their meals through a private source?
 
You really are a blind Progressive, aren't you?

Again, not a lie. In addition, WMD's WERE FOUND, as well as 550 tonnes of yellowcake.

"The community of nations may see more and more of the very kind of threat Iraq poses now: a rogue state with weapons of mass destruction, ready to use them or provide them to terrorists. If we fail to respond today, Saddam and all those who would follow in his footsteps will be emboldened tomorrow."
- President Clinton in 1998

[…], when I say to Saddam Hussein, "You cannot defy the will of the world", and when I say to him, "You have used weapons of mass destruction before; we are determined to deny you the capacity to use them again.”
- President Clinton , Jan. 27, 1998 – State of the Union

"One way or the other, we are determined to deny Iraq the capacity to develop weapons of mass destruction and the missiles to deliver them. That is our bottom line."
- President Clinton, Feb. 4, 1998 .

"If Saddam rejects peace and we have to use force, our purpose is clear. We want to seriously diminish the threat posed by Iraq's weapons of mass destruction program."
- President Bill Clinton, Feb. 17, 1998.

“Earlier today, I ordered America’s armed forces to strike military and security targets in Iraq. They are joined by British forces. Their mission is to attack Iraqis nuclear, chemical and biological weapons programs and its military capacity to threaten its neighbors.”

“Their purpose is to protect the national interest of the United States, and indeed the interests of people throughout the Middle East and around the world.”

“Saddam Hussein must not be allowed to threaten his neighbors or the world with nuclear arms, poison gas or biological weapons.”

- President Bill Clinton, Dec. 16, 1998


"We must stop Saddam from ever again jeopardizing the stability and security of his neighbors with weapons of mass destruction."
- Madeline Albright, Feb 1, 1998 Clinton Secretary of State

"Saddam's goal ... is to achieve the lifting of U.N. sanctions while retaining and enhancing Iraq's weapons of mass destruction programs. We cannot, we must not and we will not let him succeed."
- Madeline Albright, 1998 Clinton Secretary of State

"(Saddam) will rebuild his arsenal of weapons of mass destruction and some day, some way, I am certain he will use those weapons of mass destruction again, as he has ten times since 1983."
- Sandy Berger, Clinton National Security Adviser, Feb, 18, 1998 "

Update: September 8, 2005
- Sandy Berger, Clinton National Security Adviser was sentenced to community service and probation and fined $50,000 for illegally removing highly classified documents from the National Archives and intentionally destroying some of them..

[W]e urge you, after consulting with Congress, and consistent with the U.S. Constitution and laws, to take necessary actions (including, if appropriate, air and missile strikes on suspect Iraqi sites) to respond effectively to the threat posed by Iraq's refusal to end its weapons of mass destruction programs." Letter to President Clinton.
- (D) Senators Carl Levin, Tom Daschle, John Kerry, others, Oct. 9, 1998 .

"As a member of the House Intelligence Committee, I am keenly aware that the proliferation of chemical and biological weapons is an issue of grave importance to all nations. Saddam Hussein has been engaged in the development of weapons of mass destruction technology which is a threat to countries in the region and he has made a mockery of the weapons inspection process."
- Rep. Nancy Pelosi (D, CA), Dec. 16, 1998 .

"Hussein has ... chosen to spend his money on building weapons of mass destruction and palaces for his cronies."
- Madeline Albright, Clinton Secretary of State, Nov. 10, 1999 .


"We begin with the common belief that Saddam Hussein is a tyrant and a threat to the peace and stability of the region. He has ignored the mandate of the United Nations and is building weapons of mass destruction and the means of delivering them."
- Sen. Carl Levin (D, MI), Sept. 19, 2002

"We know that he has stored secret supplies of biological and chemical weapons throughout his country."
- Al Gore, Sept. 23, 2002 .

"Iraq's search for weapons of mass destruction has proven impossible to deter and we should assume that it will continue for as long as Saddam is in power."
- Al Gore, Sept. 23, 2002.

"We have known for many years that Saddam Hussein is seeking and developing weapons of mass destruction."
- Sen. Ted Kennedy (D, MA), Sept. 27, 2002 .

"The last UN weapons inspectors left Iraq in October of 1998. We are confident that Saddam Hussein retains some stockpiles of chemical and biological weapons, and that he has since embarked on a crash course to build up his chemical and biological warfare capabilities. Intelligence reports indicate that he is seeking nuclear weapons but has not yet achieved nuclear capability."
- Sen. Robert Byrd (D, WV), Oct. 3, 2002.

"I will be voting to give the President of the United States the authority to use force -- if necessary -- to disarm Saddam Hussein because I believe that a deadly arsenal of weapons of mass destruction in his hands is a real and grave threat to our security."
- Sen. John F. Kerry (D, MA), Oct. 9, 2002 .

"In the four years since the inspectors left, intelligence reports show that Saddam Hussein has worked to rebuild his chemical and biological weapons stock, his missile delivery capability, and his nuclear program. He has also given aid, comfort, and sanctuary to terrorists, including al Qaeda members ... It is clear, however, that if left unchecked, Saddam Hussein will continue to increase his capacity to wage biological and chemical warfare, and will keep trying to develop nuclear weapons."
- Sen. Hillary Clinton (D, NY), Oct 10, 2002.

"There is unmistakable evidence that Saddam Hussein is working aggressively to develop nuclear weapons and will likely have nuclear weapons within the next five years ... We also should remember we have always underestimated the progress Saddam has made in development of weapons of mass destruction."
- Sen. Jay Rockefeller (D, WV), Oct 10, 2002.

"Saddam Hussein's regime represents a grave threat to America and our allies, including our vital ally, Israel. For more than two decades, Saddam Hussein has sought weapons of mass destruction through every available means. We know that he has chemical and biological weapons. He has already used them against his neighbors and his own people, and is trying to build more. We know that he is doing everything he can to build nuclear weapons, and we know that each day he gets closer to achieving that goal."
- John Edwards, Oct 10, 2002

"The debate over Iraq is not about politics. It is about national security. It should be clear that our national security requires Congress to send a clear message to Iraq and the world: America is united in its determination to eliminate forever the threat of Iraq's weapons of mass destruction."
- John Edwards, Oct 10, 2002

“We are in possession of what I think to be compelling evidence that Saddam Hussein has, and has had for a number of years, a developing capacity for the production and storage of weapons of mass destruction."
- Sen. Bob Graham (D, FL), Dec. 8, 2002 .

"Without question, we need to disarm Saddam Hussein. He is a brutal, murderous dictator, leading an oppressive regime ... He presents a particularly grievous threat because he is so consistently prone to miscalculation ... And now he is miscalculating America’s response to his continued deceit and his consistent grasp for weapons of mass destruction. That is why the world, through the United Nations Security Council, has spoken with one voice, demanding that Iraq disclose its weapons programs and disarm. So the threat of Saddam Hussein with weapons of mass destruction is real, but it is not new. It has been with us since the end of the Persian Gulf War."
- Sen. John F. Kerry (D, MA), Jan. 23. 2003" (Currently President Barack Hussein Obama’s Secretary of State)

I am absolutely convinced that there are weapons...I saw evidence back in 1998 when we would see the inspectors being barred from gaining entry into a warehouse for three hours with trucks rolling up and then moving those trucks out."
- Clinton's Secretary of Defense William Cohen in April of 2003


"Saddam is gone and good riddance," former President Bill Clinton said yesterday, but he urged President Bush to resist trying to get even with nations that opposed the war.


"There are German and French soldiers in Afghanistan today. Does the President want them to come home?" Clinton said at a Manhattan forum on corporate integrity.


Democrats on Iraq + WMD's (Weapons of Mass Destruction)




He [President Clinton] praised Bush and Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld for their handling of the war, but said Bush should have waited longer before attacking for the "chance that either [Saddam Hussein] would have disarmed or . . . we would have had far more members of the Security Council with us."


Clinton also said Bush should not be faulted if banned weapons of mass destruction aren't found.


"I don't think you can criticize the President for trying to act on the belief that they have a substantial amount of chemical and biological stock. . . . That is what I was always told," Clinton said.

- Former President Clinton Wednesday, April 16, 2003

"Could Be One of the Great Achievements of This Administration" The vice president said he’d been to Iraq 17 times and visits the country every three months or so. "I know every one of the major players in all the segments of that society" he said. "It's impressed me. I've been impressed how they have been deciding to use the political process rather than guns to settle their differences."


- Vice President Joe Biden (D) Feb. 10, 2010

How has the war President Barack Hussein Obama said we SHOULD have been fighting going? How is the Middle East going now that President Obama is President? Oh, Afghanistan just crossed 2,330 American fatalities. Seventy percent of whom died since President Obama took office.






And now the Obama administration wants to TAKE CREDIT for the Iraq war…whew….

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Blah blah blah......

.....I read all those statements long before you ever did and none of them prove Iraq had WMD's. There was only one man whose job it was to determine if Iraq had WMD's and he was Hans Blix. And he said just before the war started...

February 14, 2003 - Blix and ElBaradei brief the UN Security Council. Blix reports that the inspectors have not yet found any weapons of mass destruction in Iraq.
Later that year, David Kay said the same thing...

October 2, 2003 - David Kay, who heads the US search, reports to intelligence committees for both the House and Senate that the Iraq Survey Group has found no weapons of mass destruction in Iraq.
A year later, a Bush Commission said the same thing...

October 6, 2004 - The final Iraq Survey Group report is released. The report concludes that Saddam Hussein did not possess weapons of mass destruction.
And a year after that, they STOPPED FUCKING LOOKING!

December 2005 - US inspectors end their search for weapons of mass destruction in Iraq.
Quite frankly, with all the media coverage this topic has had, if they had found WMD's, this is what you would see the next day...

https://postimage.org/

BTW, a bunch of old, decaying cans of sarin buried and forgotten in the middle of the desert, does not constitute a WMD.
 
When Obamacare was passed in 2009, 60% of Americans did not approve. Obamacare

Bush would have won Florida. The Florida Recount of 2000 - FactCheck.org

Where did the WMDs go that Sadaam had in January of 2001 when Clinton was President. Clinton, Gore, Kerry all claimed Iraq had WMDs. Did they lie also?

Are the people not getting meals on wheels starving or are they getting their meals through a private source?
You piss me off more than Lorenzo Ball, because you should know better. So I'll tell ya what I'm gonna do, I'm going to have a few of these...

https://postimage.org/

...then I'm going to tear your little post a new asshole!

Back in a few...
 
When Obamacare was passed in 2009, 60% of Americans did not approve. Obamacare
Newt Gingrich? You gotta be shitting me! I never considered Newt an un-biased source. And neither were the polls he was referring to. According to the poll takers, when they asked the question, "What do you think about Obamacare?", the favorable response was considerately less than when they asked the question, "What do you think about the Affordable Care Act?"

From your link...
"When pollsters ask the public about individual elements of Obamacare, like coverage for pre-existing conditions, the majority favors them..."


"In those studies that ask more generally about health care reform, Republicans respond more favorably."

It depends on how you ask the question. So to make a long story short, your link sides with me, not you.

From your link...
"Gingrich eliminates the context of other polls, which show that a majority of people do approve of individual components of Obamacare."

Now before I continue...

https://postimage.org/

...damn, that's good beer!

From your own link...

"...the study also found that Gore probably would have won, by a range of 42 to 171 votes out of 6 million cast, had there been a broad recount of all disputed ballots statewide."

...nuff said there.

Where did the WMDs go that Sadaam had in January of 2001 when Clinton was President. Clinton, Gore, Kerry all claimed Iraq had WMDs. Did they lie also?
He didn't have any in January of 2001. He hadn't had any since 1993. And after we bombed him back to the stone age, he had no ability to make any.

When Bush and Cheney stood up in front of the entire country and said, "We know Iraq has WMD's", that is a lie. When you say you know something and don't, that's a deliberate lie.

Are the people not getting meals on wheels starving or are they getting their meals through a private source?
Who knows? They're not getting their meals from wheels and that's good enough for this argument.

Let's have a drink...
 
Well I understand how liberals hate the law. After all, most criminal types do.
Like Tom Delay, Richard Cunningham, Scooter Libby, Richard Nixon and now Bill O' Reilly?

But obeying law is no reason to wish people to burn in hell; that is unless you are Satin himself.
Scalia didn't obey the law. He was a partisan piece of shit. And no, I'm not satin. Although my jammies might be.

Nobody on the SC stopped the count. They "asked" the Florida court to explain their illegal actions.
Wrong! The Supreme Court stopped the recount on Scalia's vote.

To the chagrin of liberals like yourself, judges don't make law, they are only supposed to rule if law was exercised legally and properly. Legislatures make law.
Well, Scalia didn't even do that.
 
So is it wrong for me to wish your death and hope you take Ginsburg with you? You'll need some company in hell.
I don't know why you're so mad at Ruth, but it is perfectly okay for you to wish anything you want. I'm pretty sure God is not up there with a Sharpie, waiting for you to wish stuff.
 
Then look at my state of Ohio. There is only ONE insurance company that will cover my provider--the Cleveland Clinic. The plan would cost me 20% of my net pay and has a 7K out of pocket and a 7.1K deductible. No eye coverage, no prescription coverage, and a $50.00 copay doctor visit charge.

In other words, if I joined Commie Care, there is no way for me to keep my doctor or care facility I've been going to all of my life.
I'm sorry to hear that.

Boston will come out of the east.
 
In Florida, the law is that you can't recount ballots in favored areas. If you have recounts in three Democrat areas, you must have three recounts in Republican areas as well.

It was yet another violation of the Florida laws when the court said Gore could have recounts in his districts only.
It doesn't matter if there was a law or not, if they counted all the disputed votes, it might have been a different story.
 
Scalia didn't obey the law. He was a partisan piece of shit. And no, I'm not satin. Although my jammies might be.

Once again, the Florida law states that all ballots must be certified in seven days. I understand you are a liberal and probably pretty slow, but what don't you understand about this law? It's rather simplistic.

Wrong! The Supreme Court stopped the recount on Scalia's vote.

Yes, because the recount was illegal. The recount violated Florida election laws.


Well, Scalia didn't even do that.

That's exactly what he did.
 
In Florida, the law is that you can't recount ballots in favored areas. If you have recounts in three Democrat areas, you must have three recounts in Republican areas as well.

It was yet another violation of the Florida laws when the court said Gore could have recounts in his districts only.
It doesn't matter if there was a law or not, if they counted all the disputed votes, it might have been a different story.

Now that's a typical liberal statement: It doesn't matter if there was a law.........

That's the problem right there. Liberals don't care about laws. Again, the criminal element.
 
You said there were none you are wrong I don't have to provide any more proof
RW idiocy. We're a RW functional oligarchy/kleptocracy and you dupes blame the Dems. Ay caramba.

It seems Skull Pilot called you out and you are unable to answer the bell. You have been had dumb dumb.
So tell us all the Dem policies that have made us a nightmare society the last 35 years. Dupes somehow believe Obama policies passed during his 2 years of total control (with 200+ GOP filibusters) added to that...

Yes ACA passed DUH.Everyone not paid by GOP billionaires agrees that had no effect on the economy.
move the goalposts again why don't ya?
You chumps believe Dems wrecked our society, while they've passed no policies that did that. ALL GOP, dupes. A giveaway to the rich, cuts for everything the nonrich need, a corrupt GOP world depression, allowed 9/11 thru sheer incompetence, and the stupidest wars ever. And most GOPers don't believe any of that and blame Dems thru pure misinformation repeated endlessly.
I never said anyone wrecked our society

I do think you people put too much emphasis on society and not on the individual
 
You said there were none you are wrong I don't have to provide any more proof
RW idiocy. We're a RW functional oligarchy/kleptocracy and you dupes blame the Dems. Ay caramba.

It seems Skull Pilot called you out and you are unable to answer the bell. You have been had dumb dumb.
So tell us all the Dem policies that have made us a nightmare society the last 35 years. Dupes somehow believe Obama policies passed during his 2 years of total control (with 200+ GOP filibusters) added to that...

Yes ACA passed DUH.Everyone not paid by GOP billionaires agrees that had no effect on the economy.
move the goalposts again why don't ya?
Congrats, you remembered ACA which I thought was a given, and IRRELEVANT to the argument of who ruined the middle class and the country the last 35 years.
The middle class isn't "ruined

If you look at the third quintile of earners which is the middle you will see that both the mean income and the upper limit of the income of the middle quintile have both risen steadily
 

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