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I'm not blaming all the worlds' problems on the GOP.You are NOT as dumb as you act. If you really believe all the worlds problems can be easily blamed on GOP policy, you are not critically thinking. It's understandable because it's easier to think that way, but its not excusable.
That led to the main problem in the ME, which eventually led to 9/11; and that was the creation of Israel, their treatment of the Palestinian's and our unconditional support of their tyranny.Look up Sykes-Picot. This is the root of almost all of the wests wrong doings in the Middle East. You can critically think, don't throw that away to make your life easier. Ignorance is not bliss.
Except he didn't say that, you did.No, I didn't. I said I thought HE thought that.
Man up about what? Maybe you should stop commenting on her? I mentioned her once, as an after-thought. Then you fuckers started trashing her and kept saying shit about her. You think I'm going to let that shit go? Stop talking about her and I won't have to say anything.Again, perhaps you should either man the fuck up or not mention her.
How many poor people did GW kill?Oh please, how many terrorist attacks have we had under DumBama than GW? GW only had one.....one.
So what are you saying, that it is okay to kill over a million poor people just so we can take their oil?The middle-east is oil, and oil is the lifeblood of our economy and country. It doesn't matter if you're Donald Trump flying on your own jetliner or a guy that empties garbage cans for a living. We all use oil, and without it, the country suffers greatly.
The "bomber", was right wing militia. How many poor people did he kill in that bombing?Republicans responsible? Who was President during the first attack on the WTC? Who was President during the Oklahoma City bombing?
No, it had to do with theirs.So 911 had nothing to do with our so-called poor people.
There isn't a poor person on the planet that isn't subjected to republican cruelty.
Which is understandable.
Now the issue here is what morals and virtues do you think are necessary in the modern world? Surely these would be morals shared by a large percentage of the country, so why aren't these morals a part of every kid's education? I mean, kids need to learn how to be adults and schools are in a position to shape kids to become the sort of adults society wants them to be.
So the morals of the majority should be indoctrinated into the children of the minority? You don't see how that's a problem?
Parents are the biggest shaper of their children, and should be completely responsible for it, not schools. Especially since A. No one loves their own children more than parents B. A school cannot give sufficient means of shaping their students, since they are not capable of giving the required time, patience, resources, to every single students individual needs.
Schools should be working with parents as parents take the lead in raising their children. Schools should definitely not be in the business of indoctrination. Only business in teaching our youth is how to learn, not what to learn, and doing so along with parents, not against them.
Not really, no. It already happens, it's called being a part of society.
Parents are the biggest shaper of their own children, and many of them aren't shaping their kids into respectable members of society.
We make laws, we demand that people abide by these rules. You don't see how that's a problem?
Perhaps schools should be working with parents to help shape their kids. Problem is that being a parent doesn't come with many must dos, one of those is getting them an education, and often it's left to teachers to try and shape those kids into decent human beings because their parents won't.
Now, if their parents won't, chances are when they become parents they won't either, do you see the problem here?
And BC some aren't good parents, schools should replace all parents roles? I can't stand this argument, because of one bad apple government has to fix the entire bunch. Do you really want trump in charge of indoctrinating you're children? Let's say trump somehow ends presidential term limits and becomes a 4 term president...that doesn't sound like a nightmare for America? We need to take away this power that is already being abused by our schools, who think they know better than all parents. We want kids who are objective free thinkers, not the Hitler youth. To stop hitler youth and other forms, we need to decentralize. It's only in a centralized infrastructure we get widespread indoctrination.
No, I don't want "indoctrination". I want education to be intelligent and politics to keep away from education.
The problem is the education system led to Trump. This whole "let kids be ignorant, otherwise it's indoctrination" is what is leading the US to pick leaders who shouldn't be leaders.
Uh-huh and the right would say the exact thing. With probably more evidence than you.
The real reason it's so easy to get A's in college
Is this not a worrying trend to you? That our "higher educational" systems aren't actually educating, just herding kids through.
I believe kids should be taught how to think, not what to think. I think there should be a wide range of teaching techniques presented, as well as a wide range of ideas presented. Centralizing education directly endangers this, and is put even more at risk when Demagogues from the right or left are elected. We need to teach critical thinking, the common logical fallacies, and self reliance. Not reliance on teachers.
No, I don't want "indoctrination". I want education to be intelligent and politics to keep away from education.
The problem is the education system led to Trump. This whole "let kids be ignorant, otherwise it's indoctrination" is what is leading the US to pick leaders who shouldn't be leaders.
Shouldn't be leaders by your standards? Of course only your standards on the left counts.
No, I don't want "indoctrination". I want education to be intelligent and politics to keep away from education.
The problem is the education system led to Trump. This whole "let kids be ignorant, otherwise it's indoctrination" is what is leading the US to pick leaders who shouldn't be leaders.
Shouldn't be leaders by your standards? Of course only your standards on the left counts.
Oh, now I'm not allowed to have an opinion. Thanks Ray, nice argument.
That led to the main problem in the ME, which eventually led to 9/11; and that was the creation of Israel, their treatment of the Palestinian's and our unconditional support of their tyranny.
So what are you saying, that it is okay to kill over a million poor people just so we can take their oil?
No, I don't want "indoctrination". I want education to be intelligent and politics to keep away from education.
The problem is the education system led to Trump. This whole "let kids be ignorant, otherwise it's indoctrination" is what is leading the US to pick leaders who shouldn't be leaders.
Shouldn't be leaders by your standards? Of course only your standards on the left counts.
Oh, now I'm not allowed to have an opinion. Thanks Ray, nice argument.
That doesn't sound like an opinion, that sounds like a judgement call.
You didn't notice all the bombs we've been dropping on poor countries over the last 3 decades? All the deaths we caused with medieval sanctions, are support of Israeli war crimes against the Palestinian's, our support of the Saudi regime, etc. All that stuff adds up. After a while, after enough deaths, people decide they're going to do something about it.Oh boy. I can't wait to hear this explanation. By all means, entertain us this Friday night.
It's not like you had a bunch of guys sitting around in a room when one of them jumps up and says, "Hey, I know, lets get some visas, go to the US, take some flying lessons and..."
You have to have a real hate-on to do what happened on 9/11 and that "hate" is, in part, directly related to our foreign policy. And that foreign policy, doesn't give a shit about poor people. So it is no coincidence, that many of those bombings were done with a republican administration.
Siding with Israel is a perfect example of how cruel you are to the poor, because you have to go all the back to Germany in the 30's to see an entire population of people treated worse than the Palestinian's.Good point. Why would the leader of the free world support the only real Democracy in the entire middle-east? Those Israelis have no right to defend themselves from terrorists, suicide bombers and missiles. They should just sit there and take it.
YOUR evidence showed over a million dead. But I understand why you didn't see that, the suffering of the poor never registers on your radar.Still sticking with that lie in spite of me providing evidence that a million people is not even close?
It is kind interesting at the time of our illegal and immoral invasion, Iraq was about to come out from under UN sanctions and be able to sell oil on the international market once again. But since we were the country to force those sanctions on Iraq, which resulted in half the poor people babies to die, there is no way they would sell to us.We don't "take" oil, we pay for it. But there are conflicts involved with some of the people in the middle-east with those negotiations.
Actually, regime change in Iraq started with the PNAC letters to Clinton. And just who were members of the PNAC?The planning for 911 started a lot earlier than 2001, which was a Democrat President, add to that Clinton did a lot of bombing of poor during his administration. So I think you are full of it on this point, but nice try.
Siding with Israel is a perfect example of how cruel you are to the poor, because you have to go all the back to Germany in the 30's to see an entire population of people treated worse than the Palestinian's.Good point. Why would the leader of the free world support the only real Democracy in the entire middle-east? Those Israelis have no right to defend themselves from terrorists, suicide bombers and missiles. They should just sit there and take it.
Israel is a fascist, apartheid regime, that is the cause of all the state terrorism in that area. Palestinian's are poor and have endured more cruelty than anyone can imagine and posts like yours prove it.
How many poor people did GW kill?Oh please, how many terrorist attacks have we had under DumBama than GW? GW only had one.....one.
So what are you saying, that it is okay to kill over a million poor people just so we can take their oil?The middle-east is oil, and oil is the lifeblood of our economy and country. It doesn't matter if you're Donald Trump flying on your own jetliner or a guy that empties garbage cans for a living. We all use oil, and without it, the country suffers greatly.
The "bomber", was right wing militia. How many poor people did he kill in that bombing?Republicans responsible? Who was President during the first attack on the WTC? Who was President during the Oklahoma City bombing?
No, it had to do with theirs.So 911 had nothing to do with our so-called poor people.
There isn't a poor person on the planet that isn't subjected to republican cruelty.
Capitalism has brought 2 billion of the worlds population out of poverty. Communism has killed 100 million people in the past century alone.
In the countries where socialism is rampant, Venezuela, Crete, Greece, Italy, Spain, Germany, and plenty of other unmentioned, standard of living has sharply decreased.
In countries where capitalism has been a priority, we'll take Switzerland as an example... it is the oldest government in the world, been around 500 years, ours is largely based off of their government. They consistently rank in the top 3 of standard of living, overall happiness, safety, education, healthcare, etc. huh maybe they're are and have been doing something right all these years. And oh by the way, the invented and still practice the 2nd amendment, to the point your practically issued an assault rifle as a citizen. Kind of hard to argue with their track record isn't it?
Palestinian's are not terrorists, they are the victims.Sorry, but I don't have empathy for any terrorists. Those "poor" people could be wiped out in less than three days, but Israel is too compassionate in my opinion for them to do that. In spite of the attacks Israel has to suffer from those cave men, they give them jobs and allow them to earn money for their families.
You see, those poor people wouldn't be so poor if they were not criminals. But Arafat died a billionaire because all the money that was given to his people he kept for himself and banked that money. If I remember correctly, his wife moved to Europe and is living like a queen.
Palestinians are terrorists by any definition of the word, and while they are also victims, they are victims of their own leaderships.Palestinian's are not terrorists, they are the victims.Sorry, but I don't have empathy for any terrorists. Those "poor" people could be wiped out in less than three days, but Israel is too compassionate in my opinion for them to do that. In spite of the attacks Israel has to suffer from those cave men, they give them jobs and allow them to earn money for their families.
You see, those poor people wouldn't be so poor if they were not criminals. But Arafat died a billionaire because all the money that was given to his people he kept for himself and banked that money. If I remember correctly, his wife moved to Europe and is living like a queen.
This is how you are not cruel to poor people, by expecting them to be thankful for not being wiped out in 3 days?
It is kind interesting at the time of our illegal and immoral invasion, Iraq was about to come out from under UN sanctions and be able to sell oil on the international market once again. But since we were the country to force those sanctions on Iraq, which resulted in half the poor people babies to die, there is no way they would sell to us.
YOUR evidence showed over a million dead. But I understand why you didn't see that, the suffering of the poor never registers on your radar.
