Said1
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j07950 said:PS: What are you waiting for to kill your sheep?
In a way, yes, we are wainting. Waiting for you to quote more spoodge from the Global Policy Forum.
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j07950 said:PS: What are you waiting for to kill your sheep?
manu1959 said:couple of points for our young friends
calling some one intelligent because you agree with what they say is not a sign of intelligenc or maturity you are the sheep following a false lion and the lions led by the sheep will win for they will ignor their weak leader and kill their oposistion''
Thanks for beating me to it manu , that little utopian crap about the lions and sheep is just another example of the unrealistic , naive mindset these kids have . There is a quote that has been attributed to a number of people , I believe it was Churchill . . . .When you are 18 , if you aren't liberal , you have no heart . . . once you turn 40 if you aren't conservative you have no brain . It is astounding how true this is , I was the same way when I was living off of the hard work of my parents and was influenced by the type of pied piper professor that Donald Sutherland played in Animal House . Once LIFE hit me with rent , electricity , car notes , etc. that needed to be paid , I understood a great deal more . The lions would eat the leader sheep and then hunt down the other army of sheep and eat them also unless the sheep would arm themselves with M-16s and kill the lions first . . . that is reality.
sitarro said:manu1959 said:couple of points for our young friends
calling some one intelligent because you agree with what they say is not a sign of intelligenc or maturity you are the sheep following a false lion and the lions led by the sheep will win for they will ignor their weak leader and kill their oposistion''
Thanks for beating me to it manu , that little utopian crap about the lions and sheep is just another example of the unrealistic , naive mindset these kids have . There is a quote that has been attributed to a number of people , I believe it was Churchill . . . .When you are 18 , if you aren't liberal , you have no heart . . . once you turn 40 if you aren't conservative you have no brain . It is astounding how true this is , I was the same way when I was living off of the hard work of my parents and was influenced by the type of pied piper professor that Donald Sutherland played in Animal House . Once LIFE hit me with rent , electricity , car notes , etc. that needed to be paid , I understood a great deal more . The lions would eat the leader sheep and then hunt down the other army of sheep and eat them also unless the sheep would arm themselves with M-16s and kill the lions first . . . that is reality.
Sitarro, right on the money. Here is what I found of the Churchill quote:
If a man is not a socialist by the time he is 20, he has no heart.
If he is not a conservative by the time he is 40, he has no brain.
- Winston Churchill
sitarro said:manu1959 said:couple of points for our young friends
calling some one intelligent because you agree with what they say is not a sign of intelligenc or maturity you are the sheep following a false lion and the lions led by the sheep will win for they will ignor their weak leader and kill their oposistion''
Thanks for beating me to it manu , that little utopian crap about the lions and sheep is just another example of the unrealistic , naive mindset these kids have . There is a quote that has been attributed to a number of people , I believe it was Churchill . . . .When you are 18 , if you aren't liberal , you have no heart . . . once you turn 40 if you aren't conservative you have no brain . It is astounding how true this is , I was the same way when I was living off of the hard work of my parents and was influenced by the type of pied piper professor that Donald Sutherland played in Animal House . Once LIFE hit me with rent , electricity , car notes , etc. that needed to be paid , I understood a great deal more . The lions would eat the leader sheep and then hunt down the other army of sheep and eat them also unless the sheep would arm themselves with M-16s and kill the lions first . . . that is reality.
I guess you were lucky to have been able to live off of your parents money, I have had to pay for my own education, which includes tuition fees, bills, food and everything else for that matter for the past 3 years. I live in another country, away from my family and from my roots. So I don't see how I ressemble you in anyway when you were 18, I'm 22 anyhow. You don't know me, don't generalize, I think I've hard as hard a life as you can have by the time your 22 and owe everything to myself, which includes education and who I am. I'm a self made man, I only count on myself. Save your wisdom for someone else.
Thanks Kathianne for the help , I thought it was Churchill .Kathianne said:Sitarro, right on the money. Here is what I found of the Churchill quote:
If a man is not a socialist by the time he is 20, he has no heart.
If he is not a conservative by the time he is 40, he has no brain.
- Winston Churchill
j07950 said:I guess you were lucky to have been able to live off of your parents money, I have had to pay for my own education, which includes tuition fees, bills, food and everything else for that matter for the past 3 years. I live in another country, away from my family and from my roots. So I don't see how I ressemble you in anyway when you were 18, I'm 22 anyhow. You don't me, don't generalize, I think I've hard as hard a life as you can have by the time your 22 and owe everything to myself, which includes education and who I am. I'm a self made man, I only count on myself. Save your wisdom for someone else.
There is nothing wrong with being a socialist...not having had much to live on for these past few years it's made me aware a lot of people are in the same case, all over the world for that matter, socialists programs do a lot of good, I've benefited from them in the past, I don't see why you find socialists so evil. I'd actually like you to explain to me the main differences between you and socialists...sitarro said:If what you say is true then it is even more proof of the thick fog you walk around in . You claim that you have worked very hard for what you have and yet you still agree with an idiot socialist . . .grow up kid .
j07950 said:There is nothing wrong with being a socialist...not having had much to live on for these past few years it's made me aware a lot of people are in the same case, all over the world for that matter, socialists programs do a lot of good, I've benefited from them in the past, I don't see why you find socialists so evil. I'd actually like you to explain to me the main differences between you and socialists...
j07950 said:So basically being socialist at 40 means your stupid? Is that an opinion or a fact? Just wondering...
I know a lot of socialists who aren't lazy...they have great jobs and have a great education. Don't see how that applies to socialists. Politicians which are socialists are lazy than?freeandfun1 said:I would suggest it means you are lazy and wanting somebody that is willing to work harder (the money has to come from some place for those social programs) take care of you.
j07950 said:I know a lot of socialists who aren't lazy...they have great jobs and have a great education. Don't see how that applies to socialists. Politicians which are socialists are lazy than?
freeandfun1 said:Politicians that are socialist are trying to confine power within a small group of "elites". Think about it, socialism spawns no incentives to work hard. Therefore, the only ones that get "rich" are the ones that were rich in the first place.
j07950 said:Maybee that's true but than again whats wrong with setting up programs for the poor, as the rich are still going to be rich not matter what.
I'll agree with you on that. Thats why it's not a perfect thing...But there is the need for basic help, which socialist programs offer. But they should also set up programs that help poor people make a life for themselves. I'd also like to add that we shouldn't generalize this again, a lot of people that benefit from those programs do go on and work hard and make a better life for themselves.Shattered said:Setting up too many programs for the poor gives them no incentive to get off their tails and work hard to better their own lives.. At that point, why should they? Everything is readily available for their disposal.
j07950 said:I'll agree with you on that. Thats why it's not a perfect thing...But there is the need for basic help, which socialist programs offer. But they should also set up programs that help poor people make a life for themselves. I'd also like to add that we shouldn't generalize this again, a lot of people that benefit from those programs do go on and work hard and make a better life for themselves.
j07950 said:I didn't say he was intelligent, I said some of the things he's said were intelligent, as in they are well thought of and well writen..don't know what is wrong with that. Oh and I don't agree with everything he's said but on a general note he couldn't have put it down better. You're going to attack me because I agree with someone that has said some very interesting things? which by the way kind of shut all of you up because I didn't see any interesting or plausible responses to what he's said...
PS: What are you waiting for to kill your sheep?
yeah, but you can still only use one at a time! :teeth:freeandfun1 said:From what even you have said in the past, you don't have much to live on because you are a student. That is all part of the growing process. There was a time in my life when, as my dad would have put it, I didn't have a pot to piss in or even a window to throw it out of". But I worked hard, persevered and now I have several pots and several windows.
LOL...Damn true...MissileMan said:yeah, but you can still only use one at a time! :teeth:
j07950 said:There is nothing wrong with being a socialist...not having had much to live on for these past few years it's made me aware a lot of people are in the same case, all over the world for that matter, socialists programs do a lot of good, I've benefited from them in the past, I don't see why you find socialists so evil. I'd actually like you to explain to me the main differences between you and socialists...