Why do democrats hate poor black people and want them permanently on welfare?

[Brain357]

Too much of it already is international. Hence the slow economy.

Did you have any ideas that would actually increase economic growth?

I've already given several.

You gave one that reduced GDP by as much as it increased GDP.

Try again?

No I've given several. Increasing consumer spending here in the US with increased ages vs business investment in other countries. While decreasing corporate taxes and keeping more money in the economy. While decreasing inequality which slows the economy...

No I've given several. Increasing consumer spending here in the US with increased ages vs business investment in other countries.

You should stop doing things that cause companies to want to invest overseas versus here.

While decreasing corporate taxes and keeping more money in the economy.

You recommend reducing corporate taxes?

While decreasing inequality which slows the economy...

I've never understood the logic behind this claim....can you explain it?

Giving a corporate tax break for increasing wages makes companies want to invest overseas?

It should be obvious why. Suppose you own a restaurant. You need lots of customers obviously. Well with lots of inequality only the rich can afford to go out to eat. While they have lots of money, the few rich still only eat 3 times a day so your restaurant fails. The restaurant doesn't need lots of rich people, it just needs lots of people rich enough to eat out regularly.

Now I can of course find you a link too, but that's the easy to understand explanation.

 

[danielpalos]

Henry Ford doubled autoworker wages, not minimum wages, for a reason.

To reduce turnover.
It was an expensive pain in the ass to constantly train new workers.

A fifteen dollar an hour minimum wage competes favorably with the cost of social services.

So what?

rational choice theory applies to markets.

That's why your "unemployment for quitters and never workers" is bad for the economy.

how socialist of you, to not want to compete for labor.

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

You mean we don't????? We are not setting records in the stock market???

Maybe I'm watching the wrong news sources.

Stock market isn't GDP.

Correct. Stock market is a reflection of business success or failure.

So businesses are succeeding and our economy is slow? You should think about that.

I have, I've thought about it a lot. And my conclusion is we had a President for eight years promoting government dependency. It's still happening today. As Rush Limbaugh said so many times "If you pay people not to work, don't be surprised when they don't!"

We have industry begging people to take jobs, and people not taking them. What does that tell you? We also have record high rates of people not participating in the workforce.

You can never get an economy going with so many people on the dole. There are no raises on welfare. There are no promotions on welfare. You get X amount of money, and that's all you'll ever get. You are poor and will always be poor.

We have very low unemployment. Ever heard of the baby boomers? We've known they were retiring for sometime, participation is no surprise. More people are going to college and delaying going into the workforce.

Which is all bull because for one, many people of retirement age went back to work, and two, the baby boom could never spike the participation rate that drastically anyway. Next is the fact that many kids in college always worked. It's the only way to survive to pay for things not covered by school loans.

Unemployment numbers are affected by the labor participation rate. If you are surveyed and tell the poll worker you are not working nor looking for work, you are not considered unemployed. Therefore, if you have huge numbers of people unemployed and not looking for work, of course it gives you phony unemployment numbers.

 

[MaryL]

The long standing policy of democrats is to create a permanent dependent underclass. Is being in power the only thing that matters to democrats?

I wondered about that in 1968. Where did all the honkeys go? They live in a universe far far away. I used to live with whites once upon a time, But now whites are scarce as hen's teeth, Now all we get is a bunch of poor poor mesicans or Blacks telling me I am bad because I was born white. Silly me, not choosing my ethinicy or sex, it's all my fault. Shame on me.

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

You mean we don't????? We are not setting records in the stock market???

Maybe I'm watching the wrong news sources.

Stock market isn't GDP.

Correct. Stock market is a reflection of business success or failure.

So businesses are succeeding and our economy is slow? You should think about that.

I have, I've thought about it a lot. And my conclusion is we had a President for eight years promoting government dependency. It's still happening today. As Rush Limbaugh said so many times "If you pay people not to work, don't be surprised when they don't!"

The rich are getting a capital gains tax preference to create Jobs Booms, but don't.

I have no idea WTF that even means. Nobody is getting a tax preference to create jobs. Are you using recreational narcotics or something?

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

Did you have any ideas that would actually increase economic growth?

I've already given several.

You gave one that reduced GDP by as much as it increased GDP.

Try again?

No I've given several. Increasing consumer spending here in the US with increased ages vs business investment in other countries. While decreasing corporate taxes and keeping more money in the economy. While decreasing inequality which slows the economy...

No I've given several. Increasing consumer spending here in the US with increased ages vs business investment in other countries.

You should stop doing things that cause companies to want to invest overseas versus here.

While decreasing corporate taxes and keeping more money in the economy.

You recommend reducing corporate taxes?

While decreasing inequality which slows the economy...

I've never understood the logic behind this claim....can you explain it?

Giving a corporate tax break for increasing wages makes companies want to invest overseas?

It should be obvious why. Suppose you own a restaurant. You need lots of customers obviously. Well with lots of inequality only the rich can afford to go out to eat. While they have lots of money, the few rich still only eat 3 times a day so your restaurant fails. The restaurant doesn't need lots of rich people, it just needs lots of people rich enough to eat out regularly.

Now I can of course find you a link too, but that's the easy to understand explanation.

Giving a corporate tax break for increasing wages

You'll have to explain this idea of yours.

Well with lots of inequality only the rich can afford to go out to eat.

Do we have lots of inequality? Because I see no shortage of people going out to eat.

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

Stock market isn't GDP.

Correct. Stock market is a reflection of business success or failure.

So businesses are succeeding and our economy is slow? You should think about that.

I have, I've thought about it a lot. And my conclusion is we had a President for eight years promoting government dependency. It's still happening today. As Rush Limbaugh said so many times "If you pay people not to work, don't be surprised when they don't!"

The rich are getting a capital gains tax preference to create Jobs Booms, but don't.

I have no idea WTF that even means. Nobody is getting a tax preference to create jobs. Are you using recreational narcotics or something?

He smokes a lot of weed.

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

To reduce turnover.
It was an expensive pain in the ass to constantly train new workers.

A fifteen dollar an hour minimum wage competes favorably with the cost of social services.

So what?

rational choice theory applies to markets.

That's why your "unemployment for quitters and never workers" is bad for the economy.

how socialist of you, to not want to compete for labor.

Everyone competes for labor. You want to create a shortage by making it more lucrative to not work.

 

[danielpalos]

Stock market isn't GDP.

Correct. Stock market is a reflection of business success or failure.

So businesses are succeeding and our economy is slow? You should think about that.

I have, I've thought about it a lot. And my conclusion is we had a President for eight years promoting government dependency. It's still happening today. As Rush Limbaugh said so many times "If you pay people not to work, don't be surprised when they don't!"

The rich are getting a capital gains tax preference to create Jobs Booms, but don't.

I have no idea WTF that even means. Nobody is getting a tax preference to create jobs. Are you using recreational narcotics or something?

this is why i don't take the right wing seriously about economics or the law.

 

[thereisnospoon]

follow up question: why do democrats support the organized murder of unborn black children through planned parenthood?

Limit their numbers and keep them on the plantation. Sounds like something from the KKK democrats of the 1800s.

So Redfish you want the black babies to be born, but don't want to feed, or cloth them until they are able to themselves..I am a pro life democrat who also believes in what happens after the baby is born..

Maybe you can throw them a crumb every now and then..

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Ah..The old all or nothing straw man argument. ....Nonsense. Do you really believe that if social entitlements were reduced, there would be starving people in the streets?
How little faith you have in your fellow human being.
The problem with social entitlements is not the entitlements themselves. The problems are many. One, the methods by which they are administered. Administration of the programs accounts for more than half of the funding. That's absurd.
Next, there is little or no enforcement of the rules that govern who receives benefits and who does not. There are millions of people gaming the system. And with this so many who are most in need, get shut out and get nothing.
The amount of waste fraud and abuse has reached stratospheric levels.
Finally, these programs were developed to END poverty and get people back on their feet. They have turned into handouts. The programs offer little in the way incentive to move out of the programs.

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

Correct. Stock market is a reflection of business success or failure.

So businesses are succeeding and our economy is slow? You should think about that.

I have, I've thought about it a lot. And my conclusion is we had a President for eight years promoting government dependency. It's still happening today. As Rush Limbaugh said so many times "If you pay people not to work, don't be surprised when they don't!"

The rich are getting a capital gains tax preference to create Jobs Booms, but don't.

I have no idea WTF that even means. Nobody is getting a tax preference to create jobs. Are you using recreational narcotics or something?

He smokes a lot of weed.

Either that or I'm drinking too much beer to understand hm. LOL!

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

Correct. Stock market is a reflection of business success or failure.

So businesses are succeeding and our economy is slow? You should think about that.

I have, I've thought about it a lot. And my conclusion is we had a President for eight years promoting government dependency. It's still happening today. As Rush Limbaugh said so many times "If you pay people not to work, don't be surprised when they don't!"

The rich are getting a capital gains tax preference to create Jobs Booms, but don't.

I have no idea WTF that even means. Nobody is getting a tax preference to create jobs. Are you using recreational narcotics or something?

this is why i don't take the right wing seriously about economics or the law.

Maybe you should. You might learn something for a change.

 

[SmokeALib]

I've already given several.

You gave one that reduced GDP by as much as it increased GDP.

Try again?

No I've given several. Increasing consumer spending here in the US with increased ages vs business investment in other countries. While decreasing corporate taxes and keeping more money in the economy. While decreasing inequality which slows the economy...

No I've given several. Increasing consumer spending here in the US with increased ages vs business investment in other countries.

You should stop doing things that cause companies to want to invest overseas versus here.

While decreasing corporate taxes and keeping more money in the economy.

You recommend reducing corporate taxes?

While decreasing inequality which slows the economy...

I've never understood the logic behind this claim....can you explain it?

Giving a corporate tax break for increasing wages makes companies want to invest overseas?

It should be obvious why. Suppose you own a restaurant. You need lots of customers obviously. Well with lots of inequality only the rich can afford to go out to eat. While they have lots of money, the few rich still only eat 3 times a day so your restaurant fails. The restaurant doesn't need lots of rich people, it just needs lots of people rich enough to eat out regularly.

Now I can of course find you a link too, but that's the easy to understand explanation.

Giving a corporate tax break for increasing wages

You'll have to explain this idea of yours.

Well with lots of inequality only the rich can afford to go out to eat.

Do we have lots of inequality? Because I see no shortage of people going out to eat.

Apparently the poster has never been to a Texas Roadhouse on a Friday night. Or a Wednesday night for that matter. I usually don't go there because I can't get in the place.

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

You gave one that reduced GDP by as much as it increased GDP.

Try again?

No I've given several. Increasing consumer spending here in the US with increased ages vs business investment in other countries. While decreasing corporate taxes and keeping more money in the economy. While decreasing inequality which slows the economy...

No I've given several. Increasing consumer spending here in the US with increased ages vs business investment in other countries.

You should stop doing things that cause companies to want to invest overseas versus here.

While decreasing corporate taxes and keeping more money in the economy.

You recommend reducing corporate taxes?

While decreasing inequality which slows the economy...

I've never understood the logic behind this claim....can you explain it?

Giving a corporate tax break for increasing wages makes companies want to invest overseas?

It should be obvious why. Suppose you own a restaurant. You need lots of customers obviously. Well with lots of inequality only the rich can afford to go out to eat. While they have lots of money, the few rich still only eat 3 times a day so your restaurant fails. The restaurant doesn't need lots of rich people, it just needs lots of people rich enough to eat out regularly.

Now I can of course find you a link too, but that's the easy to understand explanation.

Giving a corporate tax break for increasing wages

You'll have to explain this idea of yours.

Well with lots of inequality only the rich can afford to go out to eat.

Do we have lots of inequality? Because I see no shortage of people going out to eat.

Apparently the poster has never been to a Texas Roadhouse on a Friday night. Or a Wednesday night for that matter. I usually don't go there because I can't get in the place.

No kidding....Chili's is constantly packed.
Not a lot of rich people going there on a Friday night.

 

[thereisnospoon]

With how fast the middle class is shrinking you should be concerned for everyone. I don't hear real answers from either party.

what??? Republicans want to eliminate taxes regulations unions illegals to bring back 40 million jobs that liberals offshored. Now do you understand?

We've trIed that. It all goes to the rich. Taxes are at historic lows. Unions are in deep decline. The middle class shrinks. The rich sent jobs to china. The rich hire immigrants. How dumb are you?

Make American great again? We need strong unions.

Nonsense. There is no need for collectives which encourage group think and discourage individual achievement. Unions are the quintessential form of socialism. Good for slackers. Bad for the achievers.
Unions have reduced membership because they did that to themselves.
"It all goes to the rich"....Define "It"...
Just what did you expect with tax reductions? A windfall amount written on a check to arrive at your house?
Newsflash. When taxes are lowered across the board, those who pay the most, benefit the most. And you wan it that way. You claim those who earn more shoudl pay more. In the even of the tax reduction, the reverse applies. You cannot have it both ways.
I find it amazing that you liberals never saw a tax you did not like.

 

[Brain357]

Stock market isn't GDP.

Correct. Stock market is a reflection of business success or failure.

So businesses are succeeding and our economy is slow? You should think about that.

I have, I've thought about it a lot. And my conclusion is we had a President for eight years promoting government dependency. It's still happening today. As Rush Limbaugh said so many times "If you pay people not to work, don't be surprised when they don't!"

We have industry begging people to take jobs, and people not taking them. What does that tell you? We also have record high rates of people not participating in the workforce.

You can never get an economy going with so many people on the dole. There are no raises on welfare. There are no promotions on welfare. You get X amount of money, and that's all you'll ever get. You are poor and will always be poor.

We have very low unemployment. Ever heard of the baby boomers? We've known they were retiring for sometime, participation is no surprise. More people are going to college and delaying going into the workforce.

Which is all bull because for one, many people of retirement age went back to work, and two, the baby boom could never spike the participation rate that drastically anyway. Next is the fact that many kids in college always worked. It's the only way to survive to pay for things not covered by school loans.

Unemployment numbers are affected by the labor participation rate. If you are surveyed and tell the poll worker you are not working nor looking for work, you are not considered unemployed. Therefore, if you have huge numbers of people unemployed and not looking for work, of course it gives you phony unemployment numbers.

Who do you know that can just choose to not work? People who can afford to retire. Those who can't afford to retire keep working. I know several who have happily retired in recent years, baby boomers.

 

[Brain357]

I've already given several.

You gave one that reduced GDP by as much as it increased GDP.

Try again?

No I've given several. Increasing consumer spending here in the US with increased ages vs business investment in other countries. While decreasing corporate taxes and keeping more money in the economy. While decreasing inequality which slows the economy...

No I've given several. Increasing consumer spending here in the US with increased ages vs business investment in other countries.

You should stop doing things that cause companies to want to invest overseas versus here.

While decreasing corporate taxes and keeping more money in the economy.

You recommend reducing corporate taxes?

While decreasing inequality which slows the economy...

I've never understood the logic behind this claim....can you explain it?

Giving a corporate tax break for increasing wages makes companies want to invest overseas?

It should be obvious why. Suppose you own a restaurant. You need lots of customers obviously. Well with lots of inequality only the rich can afford to go out to eat. While they have lots of money, the few rich still only eat 3 times a day so your restaurant fails. The restaurant doesn't need lots of rich people, it just needs lots of people rich enough to eat out regularly.

Now I can of course find you a link too, but that's the easy to understand explanation.

Giving a corporate tax break for increasing wages

You'll have to explain this idea of yours.

Well with lots of inequality only the rich can afford to go out to eat.

Do we have lots of inequality? Because I see no shortage of people going out to eat.

It's already been explained several times.

That really depends where you are. Restaurants fail quite often.

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

You gave one that reduced GDP by as much as it increased GDP.

Try again?

No I've given several. Increasing consumer spending here in the US with increased ages vs business investment in other countries. While decreasing corporate taxes and keeping more money in the economy. While decreasing inequality which slows the economy...

No I've given several. Increasing consumer spending here in the US with increased ages vs business investment in other countries.

You should stop doing things that cause companies to want to invest overseas versus here.

While decreasing corporate taxes and keeping more money in the economy.

You recommend reducing corporate taxes?

While decreasing inequality which slows the economy...

I've never understood the logic behind this claim....can you explain it?

Giving a corporate tax break for increasing wages makes companies want to invest overseas?

It should be obvious why. Suppose you own a restaurant. You need lots of customers obviously. Well with lots of inequality only the rich can afford to go out to eat. While they have lots of money, the few rich still only eat 3 times a day so your restaurant fails. The restaurant doesn't need lots of rich people, it just needs lots of people rich enough to eat out regularly.

Now I can of course find you a link too, but that's the easy to understand explanation.

Giving a corporate tax break for increasing wages

You'll have to explain this idea of yours.

Well with lots of inequality only the rich can afford to go out to eat.

Do we have lots of inequality? Because I see no shortage of people going out to eat.

It's already been explained several times.

That really depends where you are. Restaurants fail quite often.

It's already been explained several times.

So explain it again. Currently, if a company spends an extra $100 on salary, they pay $35 less in tax.
You want to give them a break larger than $35?

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

Correct. Stock market is a reflection of business success or failure.

So businesses are succeeding and our economy is slow? You should think about that.

I have, I've thought about it a lot. And my conclusion is we had a President for eight years promoting government dependency. It's still happening today. As Rush Limbaugh said so many times "If you pay people not to work, don't be surprised when they don't!"

We have industry begging people to take jobs, and people not taking them. What does that tell you? We also have record high rates of people not participating in the workforce.

You can never get an economy going with so many people on the dole. There are no raises on welfare. There are no promotions on welfare. You get X amount of money, and that's all you'll ever get. You are poor and will always be poor.

We have very low unemployment. Ever heard of the baby boomers? We've known they were retiring for sometime, participation is no surprise. More people are going to college and delaying going into the workforce.

Which is all bull because for one, many people of retirement age went back to work, and two, the baby boom could never spike the participation rate that drastically anyway. Next is the fact that many kids in college always worked. It's the only way to survive to pay for things not covered by school loans.

Unemployment numbers are affected by the labor participation rate. If you are surveyed and tell the poll worker you are not working nor looking for work, you are not considered unemployed. Therefore, if you have huge numbers of people unemployed and not looking for work, of course it gives you phony unemployment numbers.

Who do you know that can just choose to not work? People who can afford to retire. Those who can't afford to retire keep working. I know several who have happily retired in recent years, baby boomers.

If you can get on some sort of government program, you don't have to work. That's the problem.

 

[thereisnospoon]

You mean we don't????? We are not setting records in the stock market???

Maybe I'm watching the wrong news sources.

Stock market isn't GDP.

Correct. Stock market is a reflection of business success or failure.

So businesses are succeeding and our economy is slow? You should think about that.

I have, I've thought about it a lot. And my conclusion is we had a President for eight years promoting government dependency. It's still happening today. As Rush Limbaugh said so many times "If you pay people not to work, don't be surprised when they don't!"

The rich are getting a capital gains tax preference to create Jobs Booms, but don't.

Wow. You know very little then.....Hey genius. Even small account holders of stocks, mutual funds, 401ks, etc. are affected by the cap gains tax cuts. Also, when one sells real property or other tangible asset, they realize a capital gain. You want a second full bite at that apple. You may curse the wealthy and wish they were the victims of confiscatory taxation, but in your zeal to steal, you sweep up everyone who is trying to build a nest egg, no matter how small, into your money grab schemes.