Why do Democrats Trivialize The Threat From Radical Islam

[AllieBaba]

UH this kind of argument is funny coming from the side that argues taking guns away won't help because the criminals will find a way to get guns. If they are illegal in that country then they are probably transported in an illegal manner. Is that logic really that hard for you to grasp?

Things that are illegal make it into this country all of the time does that make their presence here justified or condoned??

So how is the FACT that criminals breaking the law to commit the crime of slavery a "small detail" in your world?

Did you really compare gun ownership to slavery?

Actually, he compared criminal activities using guns with slavery. Just thought I'd point that out.

You're a moron.

 

[bodecea]

Yeah...there's more than just your way of being a coward. Don't worry. I'm right here. Not going anywhere.

Didn't figure you were.

Sunni is running and hiding because I nailed him to the wall with his lack of faith, I exposed the FACT that he really doesn't believe that Allah is all powerful or even exists.

The goat-herder god is an absurdity, the followers know it, but pretend otherwise.

With Jews and Christians I don't much care - they don't murder people. So I leave them alone. But Muslims are killers, so exposing that they KNOW their religion is a crock of shit is warranted. Sunni is pouting because I exposed him.

So tell us...what have YOU done to stem the tide of radical muslim terrorism?

I exposed Sunni!

Really?

 

[bodecea]

Did you really compare gun ownership to slavery?

Actually, he compared criminal activities using guns with slavery. Just thought I'd point that out.

You're a moron.

Well, calling names when you are caught being wrong sure seems to work for you, doesn't it?


Sure beats actually having reading comprehension, doesn't it?

 

[Uncensored2008]

Ohhh .... please tell us when the last time the muslims had a "superpower" was? Now tell us how they got it and kept it.

The Ottomans were definitely a great power. The Ottomans had secularized Islam - which is the key to any religion being able to interact in a civilized manner. Ataturk certainly knew this. Islam is the cancer it is, because it is fanatical. There is no such thing as "Moderate Islam" in this age, pressure has forced all of Islam to revert to the fundamentalist ideals of the Caliphs and even the Warlord Muhammad himself.

 

[bodecea]

UH this kind of argument is funny coming from the side that argues taking guns away won't help because the criminals will find a way to get guns. If they are illegal in that country then they are probably transported in an illegal manner. Is that logic really that hard for you to grasp?

Things that are illegal make it into this country all of the time does that make their presence here justified or condoned??

So how is the FACT that criminals breaking the law to commit the crime of slavery a "small detail" in your world?

Did you really compare gun ownership to slavery?

Actually, he compared criminal activities using guns with slavery. Just thought I'd point that out.

Highlighted key points to help AllieBaba with his reading comprehension....he needs it apparently.

 

[bodecea]

Ohhh .... please tell us when the last time the muslims had a "superpower" was? Now tell us how they got it and kept it.

The Ottomans were definitely a great power. The Ottomans had secularized Islam - which is the key to any religion being able to interact in a civilized manner. Ataturk certainly knew this. Islam is the cancer it is, because it is fanatical. There is no such thing as "Moderate Islam" in this age, pressure has forced all of Islam to revert to the fundamentalist ideals of the Caliphs and even the Warlord Muhammad himself.

And Turkey today?

 

[drsmith1072]

I was not trying to slant the story. I am aware that Hindus and other far eastern communities participate in slavery.

There are more stories in the news (worldwide) about muslims abusing slaves/servants than what you hear about the Hindus. If it is illegal, how can these "criminals" transport their "slaves" out of country where they are discovered abusing these people in other countries? Again, you do not disagree with the evidence presented, but focus on a small detail that you can twist to ignore the truth. Maybe that is why you chose islam, you don't care to know or live the truth.

UH this kind of argument is funny coming from the side that argues taking guns away won't help because the criminals will find a way to get guns. If they are illegal in that country then they are probably transported in an illegal manner. Is that logic really that hard for you to grasp?

Things that are illegal make it into this country all of the time does that make their presence here justified or condoned??

So how is the FACT that criminals breaking the law to commit the crime of slavery a "small detail" in your world?

Did you really compare gun ownership to slavery?

No, I didn't and if you had any intelligence and could read you would see that i compared the ARGUMENTS about obtaining illegal items.

WOW! You really aren't very bright are you?

BTW I see that you avoided my questions about your own words, so should I take your avoidance as admission that you don't actually have an answer to support your spin?

Face it, your spin was beyond absurd and your best defense is to pretend it never happened which is why you avoided questions about your postion.

 

[AllieBaba]

Bod, all you do is stir shit and jeer from the sidelines. I have never seen you contribute anything of substance to ANY thread since you arrived. You appear dim witted as well, as you are incapable of grasping the finer points of any argument, as well as many of the larger points.

All you do is bounce from thread to thread, spouting irrelevancies and reveling in your ignorance. It's a waste of time to talk to you, so the only thing left is to identify you as the troll and retard that you are, so people aren't distracted by your inanities.

I always hope that ignorant people who come to the boards will express some sort of desire to better their skills and their knowledge. I think you have actually gone backwards. So yeah, until you start contributing something, ANYTHING, other than crap, I'll just point out your ignorance. There's no point in doing anything else. You're so fucking stupid you make me depressed.

 

[Uncensored2008]

Link or evidence?

Moron, idiot.

{Sudan native recounts slavery

A man who said he was captured at age 9 and sold into slavery urged North Jersey’s Jewish community on Sunday to continue speaking out against human trafficking in Sudan.

“Sudan is a country where human beings are still bought and sold into slavery, where genocide is being committed on the black people,” said Simon Deng, now a human rights activist.

He was speaking at the Kaplen JCC on the Palisades in Tenafly, where Jewish groups were marking U.N. Holocaust Commemoration Day.}

Slavery alive and well in muslim countries, as one victim speaks out

I don't care if you hide and ignore me, Sunni - I will continue to expose you as the fraud and scumbag you are, regardless.

 

[Uncensored2008]

I rarely put anyone on ignore.

But Uncensored2008 and Hot Wire.

Are just two loser loons who don't really contribute much of anything to the board.

I suggest that others do the same.

And maybe when they see that no one is responding to their idiotic posts.

They will just move on and infect another board with their childish rants.

And islam is a loser backward deathcult that contributes NOTHING positive in the world.
Terror and murder dominate islam .The criminally insane wildeyed brainwahed savages
are now murdering and beheading U.N. workers in Afghanistan over one burned quran
in Florida!To all muslims in USA do us a favor and leave forever!Freedom and islam are incompatable ans we will NEVER give up our freedoms!

I seriously challenge any of the advocates of Islam to refute what Hot Wire posted.

Attacking him with ad hom is not refutation of his statements.

 

[AllieBaba]

UH this kind of argument is funny coming from the side that argues taking guns away won't help because the criminals will find a way to get guns. If they are illegal in that country then they are probably transported in an illegal manner. Is that logic really that hard for you to grasp?

Things that are illegal make it into this country all of the time does that make their presence here justified or condoned??

So how is the FACT that criminals breaking the law to commit the crime of slavery a "small detail" in your world?

Did you really compare gun ownership to slavery?

No, I didn't and if you had any intelligence and could read you would see that i compared the ARGUMENTS about obtaining illegal items.

WOW! You really aren't very bright are you?

BTW I see that you avoided my questions about your own words, so should I take your avoidance as admission that you don't actually have an answer to support your spin?

Face it, your spin was beyond absurd and your best defense is to pretend it never happened which is why you avoided questions about your postion.

You made the parallel, not me, nitwit. I enjoy watching you guys backpedal, though. It's a stupid parallel.

 

[bodecea]

UH this kind of argument is funny coming from the side that argues taking guns away won't help because the criminals will find a way to get guns. If they are illegal in that country then they are probably transported in an illegal manner. Is that logic really that hard for you to grasp?

Things that are illegal make it into this country all of the time does that make their presence here justified or condoned??

So how is the FACT that criminals breaking the law to commit the crime of slavery a "small detail" in your world?

Did you really compare gun ownership to slavery?

No, I didn't and if you had any intelligence and could read you would see that i compared the ARGUMENTS about obtaining illegal items.

WOW! You really aren't very bright are you?

BTW I see that you avoided my questions about your own words, so should I take your avoidance as admission that you don't actually have an answer to support your spin?

Face it, your spin was beyond absurd and your best defense is to pretend it never happened which is why you avoided questions about your postion.

No, he doesn't read very well...but is quick to just call people morons....how Ironic is that?

 

[bodecea]

I rarely put anyone on ignore.

But Uncensored2008 and Hot Wire.

Are just two loser loons who don't really contribute much of anything to the board.

I suggest that others do the same.

And maybe when they see that no one is responding to their idiotic posts.

They will just move on and infect another board with their childish rants.

And islam is a loser backward deathcult that contributes NOTHING positive in the world.
Terror and murder dominate islam .The criminally insane wildeyed brainwahed savages
are now murdering and beheading U.N. workers in Afghanistan over one burned quran
in Florida!To all muslims in USA do us a favor and leave forever!Freedom and islam are incompatable ans we will NEVER give up our freedoms!

I seriously challenge any of the advocates of Islam to refute what Hot Wire posted.

Attacking him with ad hom is not refutation of his statements.

So you and Hot Wire...... Should have known. Please do hitch your wagon to his star.

 

[Uncensored2008]

Have you followed the conversation from the beginning? Or do you just come in with totally irrelevant insults? Maybe you need to review your own attention span.

You've had this explained, but you keep saying the same stupid thing over and over.

Do you have ADHD?

 

[logical4u]

"Beltrami described the letter as “the words of a person who no longer believes in anything, full of sentences that made no sense and references to Islamic fundamentalism.”"

later in article:

"Roselane de Oliveira, a sister of the attacker, told Rio de Janeiro radio station Band News that the young man “was very strange.”

“He had no friends, and he spent all his time on the internet,” she said.

In recent months, she said, he appeared to have got closer to Islam."

from:
GuelphMercury - At least 11 dead in massacre at Rio de Janeiro school

But let's not look at how islam affects people. As the numbers of murders and suffering compound the lefties will still look the other way.

 

[bodecea]

Bod, all you do is stir shit and jeer from the sidelines. I have never seen you contribute anything of substance to ANY thread since you arrived. You appear dim witted as well, as you are incapable of grasping the finer points of any argument, as well as many of the larger points.

All you do is bounce from thread to thread, spouting irrelevancies and reveling in your ignorance. It's a waste of time to talk to you, so the only thing left is to identify you as the troll and retard that you are, so people aren't distracted by your inanities.

And yet, here you are....failing to read enough to know what is really being said and showing post by post your lack of comprehension. How Ironic is THAT!?!?!

I always hope that ignorant people who come to the boards will express some sort of desire to better their skills and their knowledge. I think you have actually gone backwards. So yeah, until you start contributing something, ANYTHING, other than crap, I'll just point out your ignorance. There's no point in doing anything else. You're so fucking stupid you make me depressed.

How can we ever take you seriously when you quite evidently don't even know how to read posts correctly. When you get a little better at actually comprehending what is going on, get back to us. Maybe then you won't have to rely solely on personal attacks and your signature neg repping. It's not our fault you are currently in over your head.

 

[drsmith1072]

I read it, your turn. When someone tells me that something is in the Bible, I usually verify it.

Sure you do. LOL

The muslims say they were the Lord's chosen people from Abraham. If that is so, why did the Lord follow Isacc's family (the legitimate son)? Why did the Lord show himself, and give the Hebrews the ten Commandments (if Ishmael was the chosen one)? Read about it and then let's have a discussion. It is not very lengthy. I believe you can read it without too much trouble. Sunni is also welcome to join the discussion, since he has claimed he "is" a Biblical scholar.

Any way you spin it, YOU made the claim therefore the burden of proof is on YOU. I am not going to waste my time looking up and searching for BS that you should provide in order to substantiate your claims.
You are basically telling people to go snipe hunting and look for something that you haven't shown to even exist.

Wow! I guess you are "afraid" to open the Bible.

Actualy I have read the bible. I grew up southern baptist. But that wasn't your argument. You made a comparison between the bible and the quran.

You must have not paid that much attention to the Bible, or you would have noticed how the OT stories were twisted to fit the quran.

So prove your argument and stop telling other to do your work for you.

How refreshing that you actually admit it.

See, this is part of the problem with you. You just make shite up as you go along, attribute it to others and then make claims and arguments based on BS that you made up.
Where did I admit anything of the kind??
The sad fact for you is that you know I didn't, which is why you just ignore being called out for you LIES and pretend that it never happened.

I will know in the future that any Biblical quotes you use will have come from somewhere else (as you could not possibly do your own research in the actual Bible).

All quotes come from somewhere else that is the point of QUOTING them. Moron. LOL

BTW, opening the Bible is NEVER a waste of time. It is a great book of learning and it does show that you do not read it.

This isn't about opening the bible. It's about your claim about the OT and the quran and how you continue to avoid proving your own claims as you try desperately to shift and change the subject.

Thanks for your usual dishonesty. I have come to expect nothing more from you.

 

[drsmith1072]

That "muslim" hate crimes are less than other groups and that those that claim the muslims are being targeted simply because of their religion, is greatly exaggerated.

Really?? So because it's less than jewish hate crimes that somehow makes the hate crimes against muslims invalid??

Fact is that I answered your question

Can you give evidence where "muslims" are harassed and undermined in this country?

Then you chime in with some non sequitur BS about how hate crimes against jews were higher as if that somehow counters the fact that muslims are being "harassed and undermined" in this country when it doesn't.

Furthermore, how has it been "greatly exaggerated" when most, including me, are only saying that it exists even as the right is trying to pretend that it doesn't?? You even went so far as to claim that the position of only ONE mosque was was being distorted and bod's links countered that line of bs from you.

BTW I am still waiting on you to show how your non sequitur has anything to do with the discussion about muslims being harassed and undermined? Or is your avoidance of that simple question an admission that it has NOTHING to do with the discussion being had?

Please name one group (or a person belonging to said group) that is not/has not been "harrassed and undermined". You are implying it is a large scale problem, not isloated incidents that are comparable to any other "group" in the USA. I never claimed there were no incidents. I just don't see the population as a whole targeting muslims for "harrassment and undermining" as you have repeatedly, implied.

I am waiting on you to actually address anything that I have said. You are asked questions about your own claims and instead of addressing them you try to demand that others jump through hoops as you ignore what has already been posted so you can try to shift the onus back onto the person asking questions of you.

What are you afraid of?? Why don't you just answer the questions instead trying so damn hard to spin every single post? Is it because you know that you've got NOTHING valid to offer??

 

[AllieBaba]

Bod, all you do is stir shit and jeer from the sidelines. I have never seen you contribute anything of substance to ANY thread since you arrived. You appear dim witted as well, as you are incapable of grasping the finer points of any argument, as well as many of the larger points.

All you do is bounce from thread to thread, spouting irrelevancies and reveling in your ignorance. It's a waste of time to talk to you, so the only thing left is to identify you as the troll and retard that you are, so people aren't distracted by your inanities.

And yet, here you are....failing to read enough to know what is really being said and showing post by post your lack of comprehension. How Ironic is THAT!?!?!

I always hope that ignorant people who come to the boards will express some sort of desire to better their skills and their knowledge. I think you have actually gone backwards. So yeah, until you start contributing something, ANYTHING, other than crap, I'll just point out your ignorance. There's no point in doing anything else. You're so fucking stupid you make me depressed.

How can we ever take you seriously when you quite evidently don't even know how to read posts correctly. When you get a little better at actually comprehending what is going on, get back to us. Maybe then you won't have to rely solely on personal attacks and your signature neg repping. It's not our fault you are currently in over your head.

I don't care if you take me seriously or not, because I have zero respect for you and see you as an intellectual dwarf.

I neg rep you because you add nothing to the discussion. And neg repping is only my signature with you. My signature with many, many others is pos repping. Including those who are on the other side of the aisle.

 

[Uncensored2008]

King is a demogogic bigot. As you are, Willow.

If we want to tally up horrors done in the name of religion, both Christianity and Islam come out looking pretty bad.

And Communism comes out much worse. What is that, 300 million dead in the name of Leftism in the 20th century?