Why Do People Celebrate the Confederacy?

[Batcat]

Confederate Memorial Day (called Confederate Heroes Day in Texas and Florida, and Confederate Decoration Day in Tennessee) is a cultural holiday observed in several Southern U.S. states on various dates since the end of the Civil War to remember the estimated 258,000 Confederate soldiers who died in military service.

It is an official state holiday in Alabama, Mississippi, and South Carolina; while it is commemorated in Kentucky, Florida, North Carolina, Texas, and Tennessee.It was also formerly recognized in Georgia, Louisiana, and Virginia. For most states, the official date is or was April 26, when the last major Confederate field army surrendered at Bennett Place, North Carolina in 1865.

Confederate Memorial Day - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

Why do people remember this and celebrate it?

Most likely because their ancestors fought for the Confederacy and they have pride in their ancestors. (My ancestors in this nation all lived in New York State and Pennsylvania and if they were here during the Civil War they might have fought for the North.)

I know a lady who right now is flying an American Stars and Bars flag in her front yard and a Confederate flag in her back yard.

Not surprisingly her favorite novel of all time is ‘Gone With the Wind.’

 

[bodecea]

Confederate Memorial Day (called Confederate Heroes Day in Texas and Florida, and Confederate Decoration Day in Tennessee) is a cultural holiday observed in several Southern U.S. states on various dates since the end of the Civil War to remember the estimated 258,000 Confederate soldiers who died in military service.

It is an official state holiday in Alabama, Mississippi, and South Carolina; while it is commemorated in Kentucky, Florida, North Carolina, Texas, and Tennessee.It was also formerly recognized in Georgia, Louisiana, and Virginia. For most states, the official date is or was April 26, when the last major Confederate field army surrendered at Bennett Place, North Carolina in 1865.

Confederate Memorial Day - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

Why do people remember this and celebrate it?

Losers...trying to cover up the loser reason why they fought.

 

[Augustine_]

Why don't you go back and study why folks argued, at the founding, between a strong central government, and letting those most affected by government control their own destinies.

In the confederacy's case, their being affected by government not letting them continue enslaving people.

Today. . . we all agree that slavery is backward and wrong.

There are many things that folks did back then that we feel are loathsome. Hell, no one batted an eye to have small children work fifty hours a week.

Raping women was no big deal. Folks were gunned down for cheating at cards.

It was a savage time.

The fact is, the individual states, according to law, had sovereignty to determine that sort of thing, within their own borders.

Likewise, if the Federal government was not going to uphold that right. . . which was agreed upon in the founding, it was the South's right to withdraw. The federal elites forced them to, and then invaded over it.


One of that nation's most notable abolitionists, Lysander Spooner abhorred slavery, and was one of the intellectuals that helped develop the Non-Aggression principle. It is, with out a doubt, uncontroversial that all human beings deserve dignity, respect, and sovereignty. . . and slavery is an aggression against their person, yes?

So, whose job is it to contest that aggression? The federal and global elites? Or the black man?

If the black man did not free himself at that point in history? Spooner knew, not only would the black man forever be slaves, but the nation too, would also be slaves to those who forced war on all of us.


The best course of action for the dedicated abolitionist, was to let the South go. . . Protest war for the horror and scam it is, and to support Northern underground railroad efforts, clandestine shipment of arms to black revolutionaries, and separatists, ect. But armed invasion? Nope, that clearly would have undermined the black man's struggle to change the culture in the south in the long run.

. . . and clearly? He was right. Now we just have the federal elites that oppress us all.

Secession is still an option. You don't even have to defend enslaving human beings to fight for it. I can think of several states I wouldn't mind letting go.

 

[Meathead]

Confederate Memorial Day (called Confederate Heroes Day in Texas and Florida, and Confederate Decoration Day in Tennessee) is a cultural holiday observed in several Southern U.S. states on various dates since the end of the Civil War to remember the estimated 258,000 Confederate soldiers who died in military service.

It is an official state holiday in Alabama, Mississippi, and South Carolina; while it is commemorated in Kentucky, Florida, North Carolina, Texas, and Tennessee.It was also formerly recognized in Georgia, Louisiana, and Virginia. For most states, the official date is or was April 26, when the last major Confederate field army surrendered at Bennett Place, North Carolina in 1865.

Confederate Memorial Day - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

Why do people remember this and celebrate it?

Why not? No one is stopping you from celebrating welfare check day?

 

[$ecular#eckler]

I've lived in the south for three passings of that date and never encountered any memorial announcements.

 

[Polishprince]

Confederate Memorial Day (called Confederate Heroes Day in Texas and Florida, and Confederate Decoration Day in Tennessee) is a cultural holiday observed in several Southern U.S. states on various dates since the end of the Civil War to remember the estimated 258,000 Confederate soldiers who died in military service.

It is an official state holiday in Alabama, Mississippi, and South Carolina; while it is commemorated in Kentucky, Florida, North Carolina, Texas, and Tennessee.It was also formerly recognized in Georgia, Louisiana, and Virginia. For most states, the official date is or was April 26, when the last major Confederate field army surrendered at Bennett Place, North Carolina in 1865.

Confederate Memorial Day - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

Why do people remember this and celebrate it?

Losers...trying to cover up the loser reason why they fought.

All of the people on both sides who fought died a long time ago.

 

[MisterBeale]

Why don't you go back and study why folks argued, at the founding, between a strong central government, and letting those most affected by government control their own destinies.

In the confederacy's case, their being affected by government not letting them continue enslaving people.

Today. . . we all agree that slavery is backward and wrong.

There are many things that folks did back then that we feel are loathsome. Hell, no one batted an eye to have small children work fifty hours a week.

Raping women was no big deal. Folks were gunned down for cheating at cards.

It was a savage time.

The fact is, the individual states, according to law, had sovereignty to determine that sort of thing, within their own borders.

Likewise, if the Federal government was not going to uphold that right. . . which was agreed upon in the founding, it was the South's right to withdraw. The federal elites forced them to, and then invaded over it.


One of that nation's most notable abolitionists, Lysander Spooner abhorred slavery, and was one of the intellectuals that helped develop the Non-Aggression principle. It is, with out a doubt, uncontroversial that all human beings deserve dignity, respect, and sovereignty. . . and slavery is an aggression against their person, yes?

So, whose job is it to contest that aggression? The federal and global elites? Or the black man?

If the black man did not free himself at that point in history? Spooner knew, not only would the black man forever be slaves, but the nation too, would also be slaves to those who forced war on all of us.


The best course of action for the dedicated abolitionist, was to let the South go. . . Protest war for the horror and scam it is, and to support Northern underground railroad efforts, clandestine shipment of arms to black revolutionaries, and separatists, ect. But armed invasion? Nope, that clearly would have undermined the black man's struggle to change the culture in the south in the long run.

. . . and clearly? He was right. Now we just have the federal elites that oppress us all.

Secession is still an option. You don't even have to defend enslaving human beings to fight for it. I can think of several states I wouldn't mind letting go.

Sure it is .. .

 

[Dekster]

Confederate Memorial Day (called Confederate Heroes Day in Texas and Florida, and Confederate Decoration Day in Tennessee) is a cultural holiday observed in several Southern U.S. states on various dates since the end of the Civil War to remember the estimated 258,000 Confederate soldiers who died in military service.

It is an official state holiday in Alabama, Mississippi, and South Carolina; while it is commemorated in Kentucky, Florida, North Carolina, Texas, and Tennessee.It was also formerly recognized in Georgia, Louisiana, and Virginia. For most states, the official date is or was April 26, when the last major Confederate field army surrendered at Bennett Place, North Carolina in 1865.

Confederate Memorial Day - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

Why do people remember this and celebrate it?

I liked my 4 day Lee-Jackson-King holiday but Gov. Coondog took Fridays off away. I didn't celebrate Lee, Jackson, or King. I just liked having a 4 day weekend. Having spent most of my life in VA, can't say that I have ever heard of this confederate memorial day though so I am not sure how remembered or celebrated it was in modern times.

 

[lennypartiv]

Because those people hate America and think the confederacy was doing all the right things

Hypocritical liberals only believe in state's rights when it helps an issue they support.

 

[Circe]

IOW, one could make the reasoned argument, that. . . in the long run? The folks that were most hurt by the civil war, were going to be the very folks it claimed to help.

If you are saying blacks are better off being slaves, prolly not ---- it's true they never progressed much, but it's still better to be free even if you don't want to be very prosperous. I figured that out reading about sugar slavery in the Caribbean --- the maroons that ran off never prospered, but when the sugar plantations paid wages eventually after slavery was abolished, they could never get anyone to do the work. (So the Caribbean Islands don't do sugar now. And are solid black. Was this really a GOOD idea? To lose the whole Caribbean to them?) The ex-slaves were okay with a subsistence lifestyle, just like they still are in Africa. They aren't into prosperity. But they don't want to be slaves, either.

 

[Circe]

Secession is still an option. You don't even have to defend enslaving human beings to fight for it. I can think of several states I wouldn't mind letting go.

Sure it is .. .

Oh, it is. All big political systems break up. Roman Empire. Great Britain. Soviet Union. We will too. I'm AMAZED this huge country has lasted so long. Abnormal.

 

[Lysistrata]

Posting this thread in race relations? Is a primary reason why you do not get it.

Why don't you go back and study why folks argued, at the founding, between a strong central government, and letting those most affected by government control their own destinies.

Why don't you study why folks distrust and loath global institutions and corporations, versus small farms, small business, and local government.

The further business and government drift from the folks it serves, the more corruption and waste move into the system.

The war of northern aggression is no exception. The northern federal and global elites used the abolitionists and the slavery issues as an excuse to strip southern, and individual state sovereignty, and government schools have pushed that paradigm ever since.

If they had no, more than likely, within another few decades in the south, slavery would have become both financially and logistically untenable, and most states, more than likely, would have moved to integrate on their own. . . but who can say? No other industrialized part of the planet kept slavery, and all quit it peacefully.

. . . but now? Not only is the black man mentally and financially in debt to the oligarchy of this nation, but all the poor of this nation are mental and financial debt slaves.

No one has control over their destiny or has freedom any longer.


Just as the elites of this nation betrayed the reason we went to war for freedom when the put down the whiskey rebellion, so too, they betrayed the spirit of '76 when the Feds' invaded the south.

Explain how people who were held as slaves had a right to control their own destiny. They couldn't just take their families, collect their back wages, and walk away, right?

If anyone has ancestors who fought for the confederacy, why not just visit their graves and throw a party to remember the late great-great uncle Frank.

People all over the world remember and honor their ancestors, but that is for the family to do, not the general public.

My ancestors came from Europe, but neither of my families had any involvement with the confederacy. There is no reason for my family to celebrate it, with a state holiday or anything else. I can't think that a black American would want to celebrate it.

 

[Bootney Lee Farnsworth]

The Vietnam War was lost, yet they still have a monument in Washington DC.

The soldiers in Vietnam fought for America, not against it.

The confederate soldiers fought for Mexico, right? Or was it France?

That's easy info to find. Look it up sometime.

See, that's your problem. You see the Northern states as America, but not the Southern states. YOU are the problem.

 

[Bootney Lee Farnsworth]

Why don't you go back and study why folks argued, at the founding, between a strong central government, and letting those most affected by government control their own destinies.

In the confederacy's case, their being affected by government not letting them continue enslaving people.

Today. . . we all agree that slavery is backward and wrong.

There are many things that folks did back then that we feel are loathsome. Hell, no one batted an eye to have small children work fifty hours a week.

Raping women was no big deal. Folks were gunned down for cheating at cards.

It was a savage time.

The fact is, the individual states, according to law, had sovereignty to determine that sort of thing, within their own borders.

Likewise, if the Federal government was not going to uphold that right. . . which was agreed upon in the founding, it was the South's right to withdraw. The federal elites forced them to, and then invaded over it.


One of that nation's most notable abolitionists, Lysander Spooner abhorred slavery, and was one of the intellectuals that helped develop the Non-Aggression principle. It is, with out a doubt, uncontroversial that all human beings deserve dignity, respect, and sovereignty. . . and slavery is an aggression against their person, yes?

So, whose job is it to contest that aggression? The federal and global elites? Or the black man?

If the black man did not free himself at that point in history? Spooner knew, not only would the black man forever be slaves, but the nation too, would also be slaves to those who forced war on all of us.


The best course of action for the dedicated abolitionist, was to let the South go. . . Protest war for the horror and scam it is, and to support Northern underground railroad efforts, clandestine shipment of arms to black revolutionaries, and separatists, ect. But armed invasion? Nope, that clearly would have undermined the black man's struggle to change the culture in the south in the long run.

. . . and clearly? He was right. Now we just have the federal elites that oppress us all.

Secession is still an option. You don't even have to defend enslaving human beings to fight for it. I can think of several states I wouldn't mind letting go.

And we can count on your support when we do leave?

 

[Flash]

Confederate Memorial Day (called Confederate Heroes Day in Texas and Florida, and Confederate Decoration Day in Tennessee) is a cultural holiday observed in several Southern U.S. states on various dates since the end of the Civil War to remember the estimated 258,000 Confederate soldiers who died in military service.

It is an official state holiday in Alabama, Mississippi, and South Carolina; while it is commemorated in Kentucky, Florida, North Carolina, Texas, and Tennessee.It was also formerly recognized in Georgia, Louisiana, and Virginia. For most states, the official date is or was April 26, when the last major Confederate field army surrendered at Bennett Place, North Carolina in 1865.

Confederate Memorial Day - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

Why do people remember this and celebrate it?

Why do assholes like you give a shit what I celebrate?

My great, great, great grandfather was a Confederate solder from Florida that fought to keep the Yankee shit from invading, killing and destroying his home.

If me honoring him and the Confederacy bothers you then you can just kiss my Cracker ass Moon Bat.

 

[MisterBeale]

Posting this thread in race relations? Is a primary reason why you do not get it.

Why don't you go back and study why folks argued, at the founding, between a strong central government, and letting those most affected by government control their own destinies.

Why don't you study why folks distrust and loath global institutions and corporations, versus small farms, small business, and local government.

The further business and government drift from the folks it serves, the more corruption and waste move into the system.

The war of northern aggression is no exception. The northern federal and global elites used the abolitionists and the slavery issues as an excuse to strip southern, and individual state sovereignty, and government schools have pushed that paradigm ever since.

If they had no, more than likely, within another few decades in the south, slavery would have become both financially and logistically untenable, and most states, more than likely, would have moved to integrate on their own. . . but who can say? No other industrialized part of the planet kept slavery, and all quit it peacefully.

. . . but now? Not only is the black man mentally and financially in debt to the oligarchy of this nation, but all the poor of this nation are mental and financial debt slaves.

No one has control over their destiny or has freedom any longer.


Just as the elites of this nation betrayed the reason we went to war for freedom when the put down the whiskey rebellion, so too, they betrayed the spirit of '76 when the Feds' invaded the south.

Explain how people who were held as slaves had a right to control their own destiny. They couldn't just take their families, collect their back wages, and walk away, right?

If anyone has ancestors who fought for the confederacy, why not just visit their graves and throw a party to remember the late great-great uncle Frank.

People all over the world remember and honor their ancestors, but that is for the family to do, not the general public.

My ancestors came from Europe, but neither of my families had any involvement with the confederacy. There is no reason for my family to celebrate it, with a state holiday or anything else. I can't think that a black American would want to celebrate it.

I love how you just compare the experience we have living in today's society, and try to pigeon hole folks back then, and shoe horn them into the consciousness of folks today. . . like that has any meaning or relevance today.

Your only concern is that of your stake holders.

Only those with low IQ's take your propaganda seriously.

Next you will be telling us. . . to explain how folks that don't take vaccines have any rights. . . . Or that folks who don't believe the lies of politicians or billionaire own corporate media have any rights. . .



Natural Rights are natural rights. Exercising them? Well, that is a matter of courage and will power.

. . . but folks managed to use the underground rail, so. . . only the timid need governments and authority.

BUT, . . . . YOU would like folks to believe that they need authority, wouldn't you?

 

[Augustine_]

The Vietnam War was lost, yet they still have a monument in Washington DC.

The soldiers in Vietnam fought for America, not against it.

The confederate soldiers fought for Mexico, right? Or was it France?

That's easy info to find. Look it up sometime.

See, that's your problem. You see the Northern states as America, but not the Southern states. YOU are the problem.

When the southern states formed their own country and tried to defeat the U.S., they were not part of the U.S. anymore. Surely, that can't be too hard for you to grasp.

 

[Augustine_]

Why don't you go back and study why folks argued, at the founding, between a strong central government, and letting those most affected by government control their own destinies.

In the confederacy's case, their being affected by government not letting them continue enslaving people.

Today. . . we all agree that slavery is backward and wrong.

There are many things that folks did back then that we feel are loathsome. Hell, no one batted an eye to have small children work fifty hours a week.

Raping women was no big deal. Folks were gunned down for cheating at cards.

It was a savage time.

The fact is, the individual states, according to law, had sovereignty to determine that sort of thing, within their own borders.

Likewise, if the Federal government was not going to uphold that right. . . which was agreed upon in the founding, it was the South's right to withdraw. The federal elites forced them to, and then invaded over it.


One of that nation's most notable abolitionists, Lysander Spooner abhorred slavery, and was one of the intellectuals that helped develop the Non-Aggression principle. It is, with out a doubt, uncontroversial that all human beings deserve dignity, respect, and sovereignty. . . and slavery is an aggression against their person, yes?

So, whose job is it to contest that aggression? The federal and global elites? Or the black man?

If the black man did not free himself at that point in history? Spooner knew, not only would the black man forever be slaves, but the nation too, would also be slaves to those who forced war on all of us.


The best course of action for the dedicated abolitionist, was to let the South go. . . Protest war for the horror and scam it is, and to support Northern underground railroad efforts, clandestine shipment of arms to black revolutionaries, and separatists, ect. But armed invasion? Nope, that clearly would have undermined the black man's struggle to change the culture in the south in the long run.

. . . and clearly? He was right. Now we just have the federal elites that oppress us all.

Secession is still an option. You don't even have to defend enslaving human beings to fight for it. I can think of several states I wouldn't mind letting go.

And we can count on your support when we do leave?

Mine, absolutely.

 

[Circe]

When the southern states formed their own country and tried to defeat the U.S., they were not part of the U.S. anymore. Surely, that can't be too hard for you to grasp.

No, we were not part of the U.S. then. However, the Southern states unified in the Confederacy did NOT try to defeat the Yankees! Nothing was clearer on either side than that the Union was determined they were not to be allowed to leave: the Union formed an Army and marched on the South. It was indeed the War of Northern Aggression.

 

[Bootney Lee Farnsworth]

The Vietnam War was lost, yet they still have a monument in Washington DC.

The soldiers in Vietnam fought for America, not against it.

The confederate soldiers fought for Mexico, right? Or was it France?

That's easy info to find. Look it up sometime.

See, that's your problem. You see the Northern states as America, but not the Southern states. YOU are the problem.

When the southern states formed their own country and tried to defeat the U.S., they were not part of the U.S. anymore. Surely, that can't be too hard for you to grasp.

Oh, no. I would call that restorative action. It was the U.S. that left the U.S.

Was the South pardoned and allowed to re-join the union or not?

Were the men who fought for their states honorable for doing their duty or not?