Why does Congress prevent the CDC from studying gun-related violence?

[RetiredGySgt]

So the majority of suicides in all of these countries...their people don't use guns.....you really think that proves your point......they are killing themselves with everything else.....you should try this again......

But they have a LOWER suicide rate than we do, that's the point.

Because they don't have guns.

Wrong as usual the graph provided shows 15 rich Countries with Higher Suicide rates then us and all most all of them do not use firearms to kill themselves.

 

[Maryland Patriot]

Very funny, also ridiculous. So, we can have all gang members turn in their guns? We can have all drug dealers turn in their guns? We can stop individuals from selling guns on the black market? We can stop importing guns? We can stop guns from crossing the border?........ pleeeeeeeeez, give mea break .......... Geez ....... think, just use your head and think ....

Guy, again, if we were just worried about the "Criminals" and "gang members", we wouldn't have problem.

Do you know how many "Gang related" homicides there are in the US out of the 16,000 we have a
year?

In 2011, there were only 1824 homicides (not all committed with guns) that were "Gang Related".

More Gangs, Fewer Gang Homicides

That was out of 16,238 homicides in the US, of which 11608 were committed with guns.

So frankly, if all we had to worry about were the gun homicides committed by gangs, we'd still reduce the gun homicide rate by 84%. The 84% that are probably just people who bought a gun for home protection and it is used to settle that argument over who drank the last can of Milwaukee's Best.

can you provide a link showing that 84% of homicides were committed over a can of Milwaukee's best?
Im have a hard time finding it myself, I assume you have the link at the ready?

 

[Kosh]

What are they afraid of? Is the CDC barred from scientifically examining any other causes of death? Why this?

Quietly, Congress extends a ban on CDC research on gun violenc

In the immediate aftermath of the massacre in Charleston, South Carolina, the US House of Representatives Appropriations Committee quietly rejected an amendment that would have allowed the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention to study the underlying causes of gun violence.

Dr. Fred Rivara, a professor of Pediatrics and Epidemiology at the University of Washington at Seattle Children's Hospital, has been involved with injury research for 30 years. He was part of a team that researched gun violence back in the 1990s and personally saw the chilling effects of the NRA’s lobbying arm. Rivara says that the NRA accused the CDC of trying to use science to promote gun control.

“As a result of that, many, many people stopped doing gun research, [and] the number of publications on firearm violence decreased dramatically," he told The Takeaway in April. "It was really chilling in terms of our ability to conduct research on this very important problem.”

In 2013, some 34,000 Americans died from gunshot wounds. So Takeaway Washington Correspondent Todd Zwillich decided to ask House Speaker John Boehner why his party is trying to block research on gun violence.

“The CDC is there to look at diseases that need to be dealt with to protect public health,” Boehner said at a press conference last week. “I’m sorry, but a gun is not a disease. Guns don’t kill people — people do. And when people use weapons in a horrible way, we should condemn the actions of the individual and not blame the action on some weapon.”

But does the CDC research blame the public health issue of gun violence on the weapons themselves?

“The original concern from the National Rifle Association back in 1996, which Dr. Rivara mentioned, made that very implication,” says Zwillich. “The NRA complained to Congress that the CDC was using the results of its research to essentially advocate for gun control. They called it propaganda. And back at that time, Congress slashed the CDC’s funding by the exact amount that was used for gun-related public health research.”

Rivara and his team discovered that having a gun in the home is associated with a threefold increase in the risk of a homicide — they released this information in a series of peer-reviewed articles that appeared in the New England Journal of Medicine. The CDC both funded Rivara’s original research and stood by the findings.

But after Congress seemingly retaliated against the CDC for publishing Rivara’s findings, Zwillich says researchers with the agency have shied away from conducting gun research.

Well if that is the case this bill needs to be signed by the president, which means you should be saying why does Obama prevent..

So for Congress to ban something, it needs presidential approval.

See how this far left drone story falls flat on it's face when you inject reality into it..

 

[JoeB131]

Yes, we're all sick of it, and have been for a very long time. But, what can anyone do about it? Again, you can not get the guns out of the hands of citizens, period.

Sure you can. Buybacks, licensing, requiring insurance, putting rules on the gun companies as to what they can sell.

Holding gun sellers liable wh en their negligence results in deaths.

You see, the thing is, most guns used in crimes are not ones ones that have been sitting forgotten in closets. They are ones bought in the last few weeks. So stop selling them, you are on the way to removing them.

 

[JoeB131]

can you provide a link showing that 84% of homicides were committed over a can of Milwaukee's best?
Im have a hard time finding it myself, I assume you have the link at the ready?

Wow, you are like really a stupid person, aren't you?

 

[JoeB131]

The British have tons more violent crimes then we do. In fact about 6 European Countries or Canada have more violent crimes then the US.

NO, they don't. Nowhere near.

 

[PaintMyHouse]

I'm perfectly happy to dump the handguns and get that number down a bit...

Notice how many Countries have more suicides then the US and do not use Firearms?I count 15 Countries and only a 3 are Oriental.

Yep, so?

 

[Toro]

What are they afraid of? Is the CDC barred from scientifically examining any other causes of death? Why this?

Quietly, Congress extends a ban on CDC research on gun violenc

In the immediate aftermath of the massacre in Charleston, South Carolina, the US House of Representatives Appropriations Committee quietly rejected an amendment that would have allowed the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention to study the underlying causes of gun violence.

Dr. Fred Rivara, a professor of Pediatrics and Epidemiology at the University of Washington at Seattle Children's Hospital, has been involved with injury research for 30 years. He was part of a team that researched gun violence back in the 1990s and personally saw the chilling effects of the NRA’s lobbying arm. Rivara says that the NRA accused the CDC of trying to use science to promote gun control.

“As a result of that, many, many people stopped doing gun research, [and] the number of publications on firearm violence decreased dramatically," he told The Takeaway in April. "It was really chilling in terms of our ability to conduct research on this very important problem.”

In 2013, some 34,000 Americans died from gunshot wounds. So Takeaway Washington Correspondent Todd Zwillich decided to ask House Speaker John Boehner why his party is trying to block research on gun violence.

“The CDC is there to look at diseases that need to be dealt with to protect public health,” Boehner said at a press conference last week. “I’m sorry, but a gun is not a disease. Guns don’t kill people — people do. And when people use weapons in a horrible way, we should condemn the actions of the individual and not blame the action on some weapon.”

But does the CDC research blame the public health issue of gun violence on the weapons themselves?

“The original concern from the National Rifle Association back in 1996, which Dr. Rivara mentioned, made that very implication,” says Zwillich. “The NRA complained to Congress that the CDC was using the results of its research to essentially advocate for gun control. They called it propaganda. And back at that time, Congress slashed the CDC’s funding by the exact amount that was used for gun-related public health research.”

Rivara and his team discovered that having a gun in the home is associated with a threefold increase in the risk of a homicide — they released this information in a series of peer-reviewed articles that appeared in the New England Journal of Medicine. The CDC both funded Rivara’s original research and stood by the findings.

But after Congress seemingly retaliated against the CDC for publishing Rivara’s findings, Zwillich says researchers with the agency have shied away from conducting gun research.

Ideology.

They want to perpetuate the idea that owning guns makes people safer, regardless if it is true or not.

 

[Toro]

The British have tons more violent crimes then we do. In fact about 6 European Countries or Canada have more violent crimes then the US.

Wrong.

The rate of violent crimes in the US is triple that of Canada.

Canada vs United States: Crime Facts and Stats

And quadruple that of the UK.

United Kingdom vs United States: Crime Facts and Stats

 

[Kosh]

can you provide a link showing that 84% of homicides were committed over a can of Milwaukee's best?
Im have a hard time finding it myself, I assume you have the link at the ready?

Wow, you are like really a stupid person, aren't you?

Another irony impaired post from a far left drone!

 

[Sonny Clark]

Yes, we're all sick of it, and have been for a very long time. But, what can anyone do about it? Again, you can not get the guns out of the hands of citizens, period.

Sure you can. Buybacks, licensing, requiring insurance, putting rules on the gun companies as to what they can sell.

Holding gun sellers liable wh en their negligence results in deaths.

You see, the thing is, most guns used in crimes are not ones ones that have been sitting forgotten in closets. They are ones bought in the last few weeks. So stop selling them, you are on the way to removing them.

Very funny. How may guns are sold on the black market? How many guns are imported? What could possibly encourage people to turn in guns? FYI - Guns will always be sold, even if it's out of trucks of cars and on the internet. You can't get guns off the streets.

 

[Coyote]

No, violence will escalate because the good people will not be able to defend themselves.....crime rates went up in Britain to 2 times our rate...rape is a huge problem in Australia.....and Sweden and coming soon to the rest of Europe.....

The British don't hav emore crime than we do, they have less. Maybe you need to do some actual research instead of reposting NRA Propaganda.

The British have tons more violent crimes then we do. In fact about 6 European Countries or Canada have more violent crimes then the US.

It's difficult to accurately get statistics on crimes across countries because of differences in how crimes are reported and classified.

 

[SwimExpert]

Suicides, accidental gun deaths, children with irresponsibly easy access to guns are not gun violence? They are not necessarily crimes, but gun shot is always violent.

No.

 

[JoeB131]

Very funny. How may guns are sold on the black market? How many guns are imported? What could possibly encourage people to turn in guns? FYI - Guns will always be sold, even if it's out of trucks of cars and on the internet. You can't get guns off the streets.

That's why you make the ATF a lot bigger and give it a lot of money for sting operations. Then you take the people you convict and you throw them in a nice dark hole where they are never seen again.

Again, guy, this is ALL very durable, and the country will thank us for it.

 

[RetiredGySgt]

The British have tons more violent crimes then we do. In fact about 6 European Countries or Canada have more violent crimes then the US.

NO, they don't. Nowhere near.

I suggest you face facts. Look it up and learn that Britain Scotland France, Germany Italy and Canada have more violence per capita crimes then the US.

 

[SwimExpert]

Love of assault weapons IS a mental health disease.

I don't recall seeing that in the DSM anywhere. If anything should be added to it, though, it's the delusion that there is some special class of weapons known as "assault" weapons.

 

[SwimExpert]

That's why you make the ATF a lot bigger and give it a lot of money for sting operations

Alcohol, tobacco, firearms. Trying to prohibit and restrict the first two has always been an epic failure. What, you think that the third time is the charm?

 

[Contumacious]

What are they afraid of? Is the CDC barred from scientifically examining any other causes of death? Why this?

Quietly, Congress extends a ban on CDC research on gun violenc

MR DINGLE BERRY, SAH:


IS IT YOUR CONTENTION THAT A VIRUS HAS INVADED FIREARMS CAUSING THE SAME TO SHOOT INDIVIDUALS ON THEIR OWN?

IF NOT, THEN STFU . GO SUCK COCKS FOR YOUR ENTERTAINMENT.


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[Nosmo King]

Suicides, accidental gun deaths, children with irresponsibly easy access to guns are not gun violence? They are not necessarily crimes, but gun shot is always violent.

No.

You've got to be kidding! You cannot agree that a gunshot death or wound is not violent? How can you say that with a straight face?

 

[SwimExpert]

How can you say that with a straight face?

Intelligently.